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A74947 Rayling rebuked: or, A defence of the ministers of this nation: by way of answer to the unparrallel'd calumnies cast upon them in an epistle lately published by Thomas Speed merchant of Bristol, unhappily become the Quakers advocate. Wherein, some Scriptures are opened, and diverse things objected by the Quakers, examined and answered. With an hortatory epistle prefixed to fasten Christians to Jesus Christ in these un-glewing times, wherein so many play fast and loose with him. By William Thomas minister of the Gospel at Ubley. Thomas, William, 1593-1667. 1656 (1656) Thomason E883_5; ESTC R207300 68,071 90

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much pleased the Framer it comes in regard of the two former passages in it to this sense if it be sense you must not call upon the Magistrate to punish those that deserve it because somtimes the Magistrate is called upon to punish those that deserve it not A man must not call upon Moses to put a blasphemer to death because the Elders and Nobles of Naboths City were some-times called upon to put Naboth to death upon an unjust accusation of blasphemy Is not this a good Argument you ought not to call upon the Magistrate to to trouble a true man therefore you may not prosecute the Law to hang a Thief and a Murderer 3. It s true that the Parliament was called upon by Presbiters for the settling of a Government according to the Word of God and the example of the best Reformed Churches wherein they held and held forth a brotherly compliance with Independants even unto the utmost of that which their principles built as far as they could apprehend on Scripture would give way unto with sufficient declaration also of due respect unto and willingnesse to close with others that were godly though of dissenting principles and perswasions They intended no yoke but the yoke of Christ and were not as some have been formerly friends to soule-annoying restraints but only enemies to soule-destroying Liberties 4. It may be somthing wondered at that he should acknowledg that Teachers of all Sects and Factions cry out for help against his Sect Doth not this shew them to be like Ishmael Not only because of their persecution of others with bitter words but also of others dis affection to them their hand being against every man and every mans hand against them I do not say bad mens only but good mens also unlesse there be no Teachers good in the Nation besides Quakers now how sad is the condition of these men whom so many wise and godly men can see no cause to approve and favour 5. What he saith in jest No Minister no Magistrate will be found a truth in good earnest for they that contemne Gods expresse ordinance in the former will for the same reason undermine it in the latter to wit that an open way may be made for what they like and what they like yea Magistrates are in so much more danger than Ministers because such men are more hindered in their purposes by their greater ter power and may gain more if they can accomplish their purposes by their subversion Herein late experience will give some light by which it hath been observed that they that had an evil eye upon the Ministry and being not content with Reformation thereof meditated ruine were also possessed with principles leading to the overthrow of the Fundamental I awes and of Magistracy The affecting of a fist Monarchy hath an evil aspect upon whatsoever is reckoned a branch of the fourth T. S. Horrible blasphemers they are grand Heriticks and notorious blasphemers and that you may knowe w● do charge them to be such on as just grounds as our brethren the Scribes and Pharises charged Christ we desire you to scan over this ensuing list of their monstruous blasphemies W. T The generals being passed over we must now come to the particular charge which this accuser hath drawn up in ●est against himself and his assosiates in earnest against the publick Teachers o● the Nation I cannot but exreamly loath the spirit with which it is written and exceedingly blame the writer and yet it grieves me whensoever I think of it and that is very often that one formerly reputed to be religious should so far forget Religion and shew so little fear of God as to strain his wit which God hath given him for a better purpose to frame such a play Book as this is made up of Fifteen fancies thereby to mock and blaspheme Gods Messengers As concerning which he must be told in the first place that persons criminous would think themselves in very good case if they might but draw up their own charges and make such a list against themselves as themselves list Yet shall the several Articles of this his charge be considered as they proceed from himself that sits down let all men judge whether it be not in the seat of the scornful and thus gives them forth T. S. First they blaspheme and say that Christ is the light of the world and hath enlightened every man that cometh into the world and that he that followes that light shall not walk in darkness but shall have the light of life which light is sufficient to teach them and guide them unto the Father c. W. T. Here are two Scriptures joyned together with more subtilty than soundnesse and upon a designe rather than reason for though there be a similitude in words yet the words import different things and are spoken upon a different account for which purpose I shall take it for granted that the first Scripture to wit John 1. 9. speaks of Christs enlightening the world as God before his coming in the flesh or at least as well before his coming as after which will I suppose appear clearly two waies 1. Because the purpose of the Evangelist in the former part of that chapter is to set forth Christs Divinity which he doth both by reason and the testimony of John Baptist 2. Because it is not said that is the true light but that was If any say that enlightning work is still carried on I shall not deny it but that will amount to no more but this that the thing intended there is to advance Christ in the eminent work of enlightning the world in the generallity and to shew that Christ is the fountain of light to all generations successions of men Now I conceive that it may with good reason be made out that the lighting intended there is most properly with the light of nature and that 1. Because o● the latitude of the subjects enlightned to wit every man that cometh into the world that is that is born into the world 2. Because it doth not appear that the light of Gods Word and the knowledge of Christ hath been or is communicated to all the world Vniversally much lesse to every one born into the world Individually but rather the contrary Psal 147. 19 20. Acts 14. 16. with Deut. 18. 14. Acts 16. 6. Divers there fore understand this of the light of nature and they that understand it otherwise yet no way favour that which the Quakers would deduce from it for they limit the words thus Christ lighteth every man that comes into the world that is every man that is enlightned he enlightneth him And again thus every man that cometh into the world that is both Jewes and Gentiles in which sense the world is taken 1 Iohn 2. 2. And yet again every man that comes into the world that is that