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A13767 A triple antidote, against certaine very common scandals of this time which, like infections and epidemicall diseases, haue generally annoyed most sorts of people amongst vs, poisoned also not a few, and diuers waies plagued and afflicted the whole state. / By Iohn Tichborne, Doctor of Diuinity, and sometimes fellow of Trinity Colledge in Cambridge.. Tichborne, John, d. 1638. 1609 (1609) STC 24064; ESTC S118413 94,709 132

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any estate and most preiudiciall to the royall prerogatiues yea the very Crowne and dignity as they most ignorantly slanderously if not indeede blasphemously haue obiected of Christian Princes making it the greatest meanes for Antichrist his clyming so high and the very stirrop to the Pope his mounting into his saddle To all which albeit I haue aunswered somewhat in a larger treatise which I purposed should haue beene the elder brother but that this like rough Esau hath for iust and good cause I hope hastned formost and preuented the other which was euen ready to come foorth first and like vnto Iacob may holde this elder by the heele yet must I briefly adioyne somewhat to that which hath beene a little before aunswered in this behalfe that may more directly quench if not kill the heate and venome of these poysonfull proiectes and problematicall diuelish obiections First therefore they might as well except against the ministery of the word and Sacraments the Ordination or degrading of ministers consecrating of Churches and such like many more which as yet none of these exceptors nor any other durst diuorce from that holy order and power of Priesthood as without any true offence it may bee called or to make them any way common to any Prince and ciuil power whatsoeuer Secondly the heart may as well bee arraigned of treason against the head and whole body as this power of the keyes and any particular administration thereof may bee iudged preiudiciall to the supremacy of Princes and safety of the whole body standing quietly of Ecclesiasticall and Ciuil power and executions sweetely ioyned and combyned together vnder any kinde of soueraignty or Ciuil Magistracy which is euermore the head of them both And lastly their Lawe and Logicke together very much deceiue them not onely in making that the cause which is not the cause and things accidentally and by circumstance somtimes euil to bee so euermore and in their owne nature which are the vsuall sallations practised by these Sophisters deceiuing themselues and others thereby but also which argueth their greatest ignorance or forgetfulnesse at the least in this point pleading from that which is cleane contrary to argue this encumbring and encountring of Princes iust titles and royall dignities as the proper effect of the same For indeed this Excommunication especially as it was vsed by those masters of the Romish Church was one of the greatest engins meanes to batter downe the walls and strong holdes of Antichristian prelacy and power when Princes and all the world once perceiued that those many Bulls roared for nothing els but to get preies for the filling of their owne bellies and feeding the ambitious humours of those vsurping and presumptuous Prelates And for the thing it selfe in it owne nature there is no one thing belonging to Ecclesiasticall power or which might possibly be inuented in the world which might sooner distast Princes or any part of the ciuill body and more likely to withdrawe them from protecting all or any of the Church rightes then the due execution of this censure In regard whereof together with these confused and troubled times wherewith the Church hath beene and is for the most part still annoyed and incumbred the due and constant vse of this Excommunication eyther hath beene obserued to haue been seldome practised in any Church or els haue the wisest gouernours of the same not thought it fit or conuenient many times to drawe out this spirituall sword and censure so often as otherwise the necessity and safety of their seueral Churches might require And for the abuses which proceeded from the persons to whome this censure hath beene at any time committed and not from the thing it selfe whereas for want of skill happely and good wisedome how and when this speciall physicke was to be applyed as Erastus himselfe obserueth who had more learning and iudgement euen in this physicke also and true diuinity then hundreds of these late pleaders and from whome this last dramme of mischiefe was drawne into the Pennes and pleas of these pettifoggers and promooters they doe no more argue the vnlawfulnesse of this power or disable the true wise and round vse thereof then if a senselesse although a golden sword appointed euermore for the highest Iustice should be misliked and most senselesly indicted and condemned for that murder which a foole and mad man had committed by it To all which kinds of reasoning and such like obiections and framers of them I could wish better skill to construe their Lawe or choppe our Logicke as we say then for want of this latter which with due reuerence alwayes to that graue profession any may obserue to bee much wanting in those Scribes especially when they are out of that their Element and put a little from their owne pace to misse very much in their right vse and application of the former and other their riche naturalls and further accomplishments wherewith for the most part they are well qualified and endowed for many Lawyers as I may say truely with reuerence and respect as abouesayd of most of them would dispute as well as any if they knew how and for the last pleader of all Author of the Assertions for Church Discipline who hath beene a great and long practiser in that bad and blacke Court by cunning libelling against all our Ecclesiasticall power and proceedings and not long since hath drawne all his Lawe and Logicke which I thinke may be put in a little bagge or at the least weighed in a small ballance together with the slime and froth of his hote and malitious wit to the fortifying of a rotten mud wall reared by another pleader almost as bad as himselfe I cannot but in holy zeale I hope to this good cause and most holy censure of Christs Church Nichols Countermure and iust indignation against all such vnskilfull reformers of Ecclesiasticall abuses and wilfull deformers indeede of all good order crie out with Peter to Simon Magus and all such enuious spirits and despitefull lookers vpon any that haue greater guifts and authority then themselues Thou thy Law and thy Logicke perish together for they haue no part I am sure nor portion in these businesses and lesse authority or calling to speake or write against any thing possible amisse therein and I feare I may too too truely adde the other that theyr hearts are not vpright in them but that vnder colour of calling vppon the vrging and mayntaining of many good Lawes and constitutions amongst vs and vnder pretence of tendring Princes supremacy which if any should presume to breathe or blowe against I wish them from my heart breathlesse to establish an yron and Macedonian throne for themselues vnder which they would soone bondage and bring both Medes and Persians and the golden head it selfe of any kind of gouernment as al know their intendmēts who are any way acquainted with their positions resolutions and practises about their new discipline which they
our English which is the straightest and most penurious I thinke of all hath euer as yet or at any time hereafter wil be able faithfully and fully to expresse many things which yet haply are none of the hardest All which might giue as great a distast to these men and cause of scruples and refusing to subscribe according to their conceiuing and meaning for the vrging thereof as those particulars instanced in by many and vniust quarrels against it at these times which I heare of late certaine learned and iudicious graue writers haue more particularly scanned and satisfied For indeed their owne nicenesse cause things to seeme harder then they are and who seeth not how easie a thing it were to find many holes and faults if any sort of people had warrant curiously to prye into and vncharitably to construe in this kind and manner in the most perfect constitutions or proceedings in this life neither can I compare these men better to any kind of people then to that bad and basest sort of Lawyers who lighting vpon any kind of euidences although neuer so well made and most sufficient to carry and confirme the true meaning and purposes of the willers deuisers and makers thereof yet will be sure by wresting and misconstruing to find some quirke of Lawe in them whereby to auoide their conueyance or at the least to giue great trouble to all those that haue any thing to do about them for euen so it is with these busie examiners and curious pryers into many our state constitutions and proceedings which being neuer so well deuised and comprised as sufficient meanes for God his seruice and our dueties as any where els in the world yet for something or other which their priuate fancies and humors cannot rellish and digest they will neuer nor can please them and therefore presently must be against God and many parts of his word Nicephorus Gregories hist lib. 11. whereas the Heathen in their generation were more modest in the one and more prouident in the other by not letting euery yong gamester that was not able to iudge aright of such mysteries as being not wel Grammered and initiated in them so much as once to peere into these state affayres much lesse to touch and taunt them for insufficiency imperfections and errors And amongst whome that was very solemne and generall neuer to dispute with them that should deny principles which also was for good purpose taken vp in one of the late Councels wherein it was thus enacted Contrahaereticos non est disputandum And if it be well obserued this is one of the chiefe causes of so little true religion in the world or at the least due and constant expressing the same whilst euery one is bold enough being not curbed with some authority to the contrary greedily and curiously to spye and censure such infirmities as are incident to the best humane orders and euery one will take liberty to carpe against publique proceedings where there is no cause or error at all many times Whereas the best state and politick body whatsoeuer is or can be no better then the temperature and disposition of mans body which albeit as the learned in Physick know when it is at the best might be reduced haply with much adoe to some better temper and dyet also for the same purpose yet doth the knowledge and wisedome of Physicke obseruing that through the old temper and customable dyet that body to be kept within some good proportion and latitude of health as they say forbeare so much as to inquire into some smaller defects nay hold it not safe being setled once in one temper and courses of dyet answering the same to make or attempt the least alteration therein notwithstanding they iudge and could wish haply also that speciall body to be of another and somewhat better temperature or disposition like vnto the wisest builder also which hauing reared a house with great trouble and charge vpon the discrying of some imperfections afterward which the best plot and frame is euer blemished withal doth not by and by altogether mislike it to pull it downe for such eye-sores and imperfections but himselfe and all his content themselues with it knowing the cost of building An other which would possibly admit as many or more defects when the former were amended and yet cannot our new builders see and physitions of small value as Iob calleth them the meaning of these matters in our politique body Iob. 13. v. 4. and building to acknowledge and allowe the good state and temper thereof but would faine be pulling down to amēd that where haply is no fault and to be tempering with that body which is in as good proportion of health doth for the generall frame temper thereof as well performe and accomplish all the functions and due offices thereof I am perswaded as any other in the world yea a great deale better then if it should be otherwise reformed before which time also it might haply be lost it selfe temper and all CHAP. 3. Declaring the true nature and end of the inuenting and vrging of any kind of Subscription by the prudent gouernment of any Church or state NOw to shew the nature and proper end of this Subscription It is onely a bond or witnesse of all inferiours liuing vnder gouernment for their good opinions and allowance of that state and proceedings therein vnder which they liue wherein I could wish double bond taken with all possible securitie from those that should seeke any publike place or promotion whatsoeuer in our Church or any part of the common wealth Neither do our gouernours make any other end thereof but by establishing thereby a generall vniformitie of doctrine as the confessiō of the Church wherin they liue comprised in our Articles of faith and conformity to publike orders and proceedings to preserue the common peace of the Church as also to preuent thereby so farre as humane foresight meanes can attaine vnto the manifold sects and diuersities of doctrines and opinions and attempts and practises of speciall persons at the least which are most like or may most iustly be feared to be any way preiuditiall to the same and to breed bring in by false and erronious doctrine and irregularity from the aforesaid seuerall orders determined any danger to the whole state as also those which are vrged to Subscribe to protest and witnesse no further thereon but that all things contained in the booke of common prayer and the rest are so farre forth according to the word of God as humane ability is wont to attaine vnto being no way contrary to the rules of faith but such as hath most wisely and religiously beene inuented and appointed and with no lesse care preserued maintained as the best means which our wise worthy gouernors haue in their graue most carefull curious and conscionable considerations resolued of as well for the true seruice of God and orthodoxall and