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A77243 A practicall discourse concerning Gods decrees. In two parts. The first concerning mans unfitnesse to dispute against the decrees of God: out of Rom. 9.20. The second tending to assert and cleare Gods absolute election of a limited and certaine number unto eternall life: out of Acts 13:48. By Edvvard Bagshavve st. of Ch. Ch. Bagshaw, Edward, 1629-1671. 1659 (1659) Wing B420; Thomason E965_3; ESTC R18103 27,770 46

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