Selected quad for the lemma: cause_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
cause_n	authority_n	reason_n	scripture_n	1,850	5	6.1940	4	false

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A64066	Quæstio quodlibetica, or, A discourse whether it may bee lawfull to take use for money	Filmer, Robert, Sir, d. 1653.; Twysden, Roger, Sir, 1597-1672.	1653 (1653)	Wing T3555; ESTC R14802	53,162	192

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thou_o shall_v not_o harden_v thy_o heart_n nor_o shu●_z thy_o hand_n from_o thy_o poor_a brother_n but_o thou_o shall_v open_v thy_o hand_n wide_a unto_o he_o and_o shall_v sure_o lend_v he_o sufficient_a for_o his_o need_n in_o which_o he_o want_v deut._n 15.7_o 8._o for_o the_o observation_n of_o this_o law_n god_n be_v careful_a that_o this_o lend_n shall_v be_v without_o usury_n he_o make_v no_o law_n to_o bind_v man_n to_o lend_v unto_o the_o rich_a and_o therefore_o there_o be_v no_o law_n to_o restrain_v take_v usury_n of_o they_o the_o lend_n to_o the_o poor_a be_v to_o be_v so_o free_a that_o it_o must_v be_v in_o the_o next_o degree_n to_o give_v and_o we_o find_v that_o to_o this_o law_n that_o command_v lend_v be_v add_v in_o the_o very_a next_o ve●se_n thou_o shall_v sure_o give_v he_o and_o thy_o heart_n shall_v not_o be_v grieve_v when_o thou_o giu●st_a unto_o he_o likewise_o in_o levit._n 25._o it_o be_v say_v thou_o shall_v relieve_v he_o and_o then_o it_o follow_v 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the_o jew_n among_o themselves_o it_o be_v high_a time_n to_o make_v provision_n for_o the_o poor_a they_o will_v not_o stick_v it_o seem_v to_o strip_v a_o poor_a man_n stark_o naked_a for_o a_o debt_n as_o appear_v by_o the_o law_n concerning_o the_o restitution_n of_o pledge_n before_o sun_n set_v if_o they_o be_v the_o cover_n only_o and_o raiment_n for_o the_o skin_n wherein_o a_o man_n may_v sleep_v exod._n 22.26_o beside_o they_o will_v forbear_v to_o lend_v to_o the_o poor_a because_o they_o be_v in_o danger_n to_o lose_v their_o debt_n if_o they_o do_v not_o recover_v it_o before_o the_o seven_o year_n the_o law_n be_v deut._n 15.1_o every_o seven_o year_n every_o creditor_n tha●_z lend_v aught_o unto_o his_o neighbour_n shall_v release_v it_o that_o which_o be_v thou_o with_o thy_o brother_n thy_o hand_n shall_v release_v this_o release_n of_o debt_n have_v the_o same_o end_n with_o the_o prohibition_n of_o usury_n the_o relief_n of_o the_o poor_a and_o although_o this_o 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by_o buy_v and_o sell_v in_o the_o mercat_n at_o the_o same_o price_n that_o the_o owner_n of_o money_n do_v and_o it_o be_v the_o rate_n of_o the_o mercat_n that_o rule_v their_o use_n and_o not_o their_o usury_n the_o mercat_n the_o difference_n be_v only_o that_o the_o owner_n prove_v the_o great_a gainer_n and_o grow_v rich_a than_o the_o borrower_n who_o keep_v but_o part_n of_o their_o get_n because_o that_o their_o stock_n be_v not_o their_o own_o and_o questionless_a the_o common_a estimation_n of_o man_n will_v not_o value_n at_o 8._o or_o 10_o in_o the_o 100_o if_o it_o do_v not_o ordinary_o produce_v a_o competent_a increase_n both_o for_o borrower_n and_o lender_n if_o any_o man_n object_n that_o the_o prime_a gain_n which_o come_v by_o buy_v and_o sell_v and_o lead_v the_o rate_n of_o usury_n be_v too_o great_a i_o know_v no_o other_o answer_n but_o this_o if_o common_a custom_n may_v not_o determine_v reasonable_a gain_n i_o know_v not_o how_o it_o will_v be_v resolve_v 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against_o usury_n for_o the_o truth_n be_v there_o be_v none_o although_o d._n dow_n and_o some_o other_o do_v cite_v two_o text_n first_o mat._n 5.42_o give_v to_o he_o that_o ask_v and_o from_o he_o that_o will_v borrow_v of_o thou_o tu●n_n not_o away_o if_o we_o ask_v d._n d●wnam_n whether_o every_o one_o be_v b●und_v to_o lend_v to_o every_o one_o that_o ask_v his_o answer_n be_v respect_n be_v to_o be_v have_v of_o thy_o ability_n and_o of_o his_o necessity_n and_o also_o if_o it_o be_v not_o a_o case_n of_o urgent_a and_o present_a necessity_n of_o his_o honesty_n if_o his_o necessity_n urge_v he_o to_o borrow_v and_o thy_o estate_n enable_v thou_o to_o lend_v thou_o be_v bind_v to_o lend_v unto_o he_o especial_o if_o his_o honesty_n deserve_v to_o be_v respect_v lect._n on_o the_o 15._o psalm_n pag_n 224._o why_o may_v not_o the_o same_o respect_n be_v observe_v in_o the_o interpretation_n of_o all_o text_n against_o usury_n second_o he_o cite_v luk._n ●_z 35_o lend_v look_v 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