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A51484 A peaceable method for the re-uniting Protestants and Catholicks in matters of faith principally in the subject of the Holy Eucharist : proceeding upon principles agreed-on and waving points in dispute : upon occasion of the late conceit concerning the perpetuity of faith touching that great mystery / written in French by Lewis Mainbourg. Maimbourg, Louis, 1610-1686.; T. W. 1672 (1672) Wing M293; ESTC R26797 72,644 198

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made appear why those other subsequent Councils which had the same Promise of special assistance from him who was and is able to make his Word good may not be supposed to have proceeded according to the same Rule of those former defining and declaring according to the express and plain words of the Canonical Scriptures and who it is by the express and plain words of the said Canonical Scriptures who has received Commission to Judge of the Case But lastly which is chiefly to my present purpose does not here an High Court of Parliament the Legislative obliging Power of the Nation with the assent of the Clergy in their Convocation assert and assume unto themselves as absolute an Authority of Determining matters of Faith and declaring Heresies c. as was ever yet challenged by any Body-Politick or Ecclesiastical Many other proceedings of Parliaments Canons and Constitutions of Synocts might be alledged were not the matter of fact so obvious and well known to every one that it acquits me of that labour And now if all this to a common English mans understanding does not speak a claim of an Authority obliging all to submission and conformity I think we are very much to seek for expressions And certainly supposing what was supposed there could be nothing more rational or conformable to those first Councils we all so much receive as also to the manifest letter of or evident deductions from Holy Writ it self Mat. 1● 17 If he shall not hear the Church let him be accounted as a Heathen or Publican And why Because it is in Christianity to be supposed that there is a Church and that this Church the true Spouse of Jesus Christ is the Pillar and Foundation of Truth 1 Tim. 3.15 This then being granted and I think he must be very bold who dares reject the Authority of so many eminent Persons or contemn their publick proceedings I perswade my self I need not be very solicitous for Instances drawn from the Council of Dort Certainly we have as special and as remarkable ones neerer home for the making good an Agreement upon this great Maxithe That there is in the Church of Christ wherever that is a Soveraign Authority obliging Christians in matters of Faith to submission and conformity The Consequence has been the chief endeavour of this small Tract And I hope it will be seriously reflected upon how necessarily not to say unavoidably the Premises usher it in But because I see there are some for what reasons and foreseen consequences I will not passe my conjecture who have endeavoured to find out new Glosses not onely for the Scriptures but also for Acts and Statutes of Parliaments Canons and Constitutions of Councils even with seeming violence to the Lawes of the Nation and the Decrees of their own Mother-Church telling us that nothing is meant or intended by the said Acts and Decrees c. but onely an obligation to exteriour Conformity and Non contradiction I will still adhere to my Authours peceable Method hoping they will take me for one who desires to deal civilly If I require no more at present for the making good what this Author pretends to For I am very much inclined to believe that this kind of Conformity or Non contradiction supposed obligatory and practised in due time and place when differences first appeared would have left a much more easie way for composing and reducing unsetled and unquiet spirits and would have brought them by little and little into so pleasant a path as would have led them in a short time into the high way of happy peace and union For were the liberty of that voluble member Jac. 3.8 that Inquietum malum of the tongue so apt either out of vanity or presumption to break out into expressions of our interiour sentiments effectually restreyned it were much to be hoped those troubled and troublesome fancies which insect the understanding would by little and little sink or fall down so as to leave it to its natural clearness fitted of it self to receive better impressions either from Reason or just Authority Not that I think any rational man unless much put to his shifts can in earnest maintain this Negative kind of compliance to be sufficient for attaining the end pretended to which I suppose is an exteriour at least Conformity or Uniformity for the avoiding division and confusion For never was it yet heard of nor can it possibly be expected that the Index or Hand of a Watch or Clock should shew the right hour for any considerable time much less constantly unless the inward work or wheels be in good order Would to God there were not so sad experience of this practically certain Truth Those Divisions Sub-divisions and Subsub-divisions breaking into visible Confusions which certainly cannot be imagined the lawful Issue of true Christian Principles do to the eye demonstrate that there is something wanting that this is not the way intended by him who came to bring Peace to the World and who promised his constant Presence for the maintaining of it to the worlds end not by a visible appearance but invisible assistance of that Church which he commands all to hearken unto and obey under so severe a penalty as being accounted upon default Heathens and Publicans To conclude let me be so bold as to desire these Gentlemen who go so far at least as to think this Exteriour Conformity or Non-contradiction obliging and necessary to take the pains to reflect soberly whether this which they do and must grant does not oblige them to make one step further and upon the same grounds either of authority whether Humane or Divine or principles of reason or for the necessary avoiding experienced inconveniences to allow an obedience and assent of an higher nature The Authorities of Scriptures and Fathers are alledged as plausibly for it The reasons taken either from the experienced insufficiency of the one Cause or the just and exact proportion of the other to the so much desired effect of peace and unity are demonstrable As the inconveniences and continual disturbances of the one Part are but too too visible so the setled quiet and comfort of Spirit which the other constantly enjoyes are experimentally best known to those who upon the first appearance of difficulties and debates flye to the bosome and rely upon the Judgement and Determination of the Church owned by all who call themselves Christians to have some degree of Power and Authority and the extent thereof not to be regulated or confined she being the Soveraign and Supreme Court of this nature but by her own declaration onely Demonstrably not to be judged or regulated in case of debate by particular Parties who for the avoiding otherwise unavoidable confusion are themselves by her to be regulated and judged Now which Church this must needs be is not hard to discover out of the foregoing Discourse wherein Differences and Debates are brought to their first rise when the Parties dissenting were both ownedly members and subjects of the same Church and which Church by legal Consequence was their lawful Judge as being then the onely and by a necessary Sequel the True Church and that firm Rock against which the Promise of God himself is upon Record that the Gates of Hell should never prevail FINIS ERRATA PAge ● Line 15 read Defeats p. 8 in the margin r. inferri p. 13 l. 16 for ther r. three p. 33 l 7 in the marg add sed p. 35 l. 12 dele which p. 50 l. 8 r to the Word p. 70 l. 27 in the marg r ●liter p. 7 l. 28 r sin p. 89 l. 10 r of the Word p. 91 l 27 r Eeuthericus p. 103 l. 1 r into p. 06 l. 9 r Representative p. 114 l. 11 r to their fancy p. 116 l. 11 r Contests p. 121 l. 7 for by-wayes r by wayes 122 l. 23 r clucidation p. 124 3 for decision r devision Ibid. l. 7 for accordingly r avowedly p. 125 l. 3 for Sentences r Sentiments p. 128 l. 23 r Licinensis p. 1●0 l. 18 r preposterous p. 144 l. 2 for when r which
our stage But I hope they may be perswaded that it is not the first time a French man has spoke good fence though in bad English As we willingly receive Marchandize which is for our turn from any place so need we not be ashamed to admit of Reason from any part The Reformed Churches of France which ours here have upon occasion acknowledged a very tender respect and kindness for do own Monsieur Claud● to be their great and Learned Champion and it must be granted I think by all that Monsieur Arnaud has in this late famous Contest behaved himself as a valiant and skilful Souldier of the Catholick Church The subject of Dispute between them is of common concern And perchance the setling of that one Point upon such grounds as my Authour in a moderate peaceable way endeavours to lay down may prove final to all other debates whatsoever I foresee that his Instance for agreement upon Principles taken in part from the Council of Dort will not be allowed by all as sterling 'T is possible there may be some left who retain a greater kindness for both the Person and Principles of Arminius than for Gomarus and his Predestiparians 'T is pitty Countries and Climates should have an influence upon Reason and Principles of Religion as they have upon Complexions and Constitutions Now certain it is that generally among the Reformed of France for whom this Authour chiefly designed his Work the Council of Dort and the Transactions and Decrees thereof as you may plainy discover by the annexed Extract of the Synod of Alez and others have been and to this hour are in great esteem And it may be supposed both by the unanimous Votes of the select Divines of all the Reformed Churches then in being and by the solid and impregnable grounds of their proceedings that there is a great deal of reason for their so doing such as setting aside passion and preingagement cannot be parllel'd by any of the diffenters But as I must confesse my self a friend of my Authors Method particularly in assuming nothing but what his Adversary seems to grant so will I not make it my business to apologia for that Council which to some may seem to lye open to exceptions It shall be sufficient for me to give a hint at what has past within our own Dominions much of the same nature and to give occasion to those who make any question of it to search into the several Parliamentary and Synodical proceedings of our own Reformed Church in late dayes that is in Queen Elizabeth's King James's and King Charles his time when the 39. Articles and some other Points belonging to Religion have been advanced with as great a claim of Legislative Power and Definitive Authority as any Council either of the Catholick or Reformed Church ever challenged to themselves See if you please the very Title of the 39. Articles That these Articles were drawn up for the avoiding diversities of Opinions and for the establishing consent touching true Religion requiring all the Subjects of this Church to continue in uniform profession thereof and prohibiting the least difference from the said Articles And again ●an 5. in 1603. Whosoever shall hereafter affirm that any of the 39. Articles agreed upon by the whole Clergy in the Conv●cation held 1562. for the avoiding diversity of Opinions and for the establishing of consent touching true Religion are in any part erroneons or such as he may not with a good Conscience subscribe unto let him be Excommunicated ipso facto and not restored but after his repentance and publick revocation of such his wicked error And now I am apt to believe that those Learned men who could not chuse but understand very well of what weight an Excommunication is were in very good earnest and that the transgression which they by the threat of so severe a penalty endeavoured to prevent was esteemed by them no mean enormity The same seems to be the sense of the whole Parliament 13 Eliz. 12. That every one thath an Ecclesiastical living declare his assent and subscribe to the 39. Articles of Religion c. And that no person be admitted to any Benefice with Cure except he shall first have subscribed the same Articles with declaration of his unfeigned assent to the same And now though this Injunction seems immediately to reach the Clergy onely yet it being particularly contrived for those who are to be admitted to Benefices with Cure that is to the charge of Instructing others the Parliament does in this sufficiently declare what Principles they are obliged to be of and consequently what Doctrine they are bound to teach and what others ought to learn The Statute of 1 Eliz. 1. is yet more comprehensive as intended for the regulating all in general By this Statute it is Enacted that no manner of Order Act or Determination for any matter of Religion or cause Ecclesiastical had or made by the Authority of this present Parliament shall be accepted deemed interpreted or adjudged at any time hereafter to be any Hersie Schisme or Schismatical Opinion any Order Decree Sentence Constitution or Law whatsoever the same be to the contrary notwithstanding And then limiting the power of Ordinaries in things of this nature tells us That they shall not in any wise have Authority or Power to Order Determine or adjudge any matter or cause to be Heresie but onely such as heretofore have been determined ordered or adjudged to be Heresie by the Authority of the Canonical Scriptures or by the first four General Councils or any of them or by any other General Council wherein the same was declared Heresie by the express and plain words of the said Canonical Scriptures or such as hereafter shall be Ordered Iudged or determined to be Heresie by the High● Court of Parliament of this Realm with the assent of the Clergy in their Convocation It is to be presumed that this High Court of Parliament was very well informed that there had been more Heresies than one in times past and that they thought it very necessary to appoint some effectual means for the suppressing others which might arise Those means thus deliberately appointed by the Legislative Power of the Nation are deservedly to be reflected unon First The Canonical Scripture● And here by the way let me intreat you to call to mind the Discourse concerning this Point which I suppose you have already perused in the second Chapter Sect. 11. c. of this small Treatise then which I must needs think nothing can be more rational in order to the convincing a necessity of a further Determinative Power either for the clearing the Scriptures themselves to be truly Canonical or for making out the true fence and meaning of them so as to render them truly and effectually useful Secondly as to the respect and Authority allowed here by Act of Parliament to the four first General Councils it were to be wished that some good solid Reason might be
Communities there are alwayes Courts of Justice which have received full Authority to Judge of Causes and Actions between particular persons When there happens a Sure at Law between two be they of what quality and condition they will even members of the Court it self they are no other than Parties Contesting Plaintiff and Defendant They must also have their Solicitors their Attournies and their Counsil to Plead for them but it is the Judge's business to give Sentence And when Sentence is once given if he who was cast should slight the Decree of the Court and be so bold as to say that he owns it not as legal nor the Court as lawful Judges and that it is He and his Solicitors and Council and those who are his Abettors who constitute a true Court and Seat of Justice I think he would be taken for no better than a Rebel and as Out-law or one that were not in his right wits And those who an hundred years after should dare to say that he had reason to do as he did would be thought to have as little judgement and reason as he Now can it be imagined that God would permit such an irregularity such a fearful disorder in the Government of his Church He has been pleased to give Power and Authority to an Assembly of Pastors who are the Representative of his Church to end all Contests in matters of Faith in such manner as we have already seen It is one this or that may be held or denyed before Judgement given as any one with his Party may think fit But when the Decree is once passed and it comes to be defined by this Church or Representative of the Church what is to be believed concerning the Point controverted he who has lost the cause be he who he will having antecedently to such definition owned that Church to be the True one must not nor cannot now say that it is not the Assembly but that it is he himsef his followers and Disciples who do represent and in reality constitute the True Church He who uses this language and those who take part with him in and at what time soever it does happen can be held for no other than true Schismaticks 8. This is clearly to be seen in the Acts of the Apostles and in the Ecclesiastical History and Protestants themselves will without difficulty grant it as they have already acknowledged it and solemnly professed it in the Synod of Dort The Primitive Church was made up of Jews and Gentile who had received the Holy Gospel It happened as it is recounted in the 15. of the Acts that some of those who had been converted from Judaisme coming to Antioch taught this Doctrine That if those who were of Gentils become Christians were not Circumcised according to the Custome of Moses his Law they could not be saved There fell to be a great Contest and a great disturbance in the Church about the matter St. Paul and St. Barnaby strongly opposing that Opinion and others maintaining it with a great deal of earnestness For the composing the business it was thought fit to send these two Saints and some of those of the contrary perswasion to the Apostles and Priests at Hierusalem to propose unto them the difficulty They failed not in the performance of their charge S. Paul and S. Barnabas relating unto them the favours which it had pleased God to shew to the Gentils by help of their Ministery without the assistance of the Law of Moses and those others especially some of the Pharisees who had been Convertedo urging very hotly Surrexerunt quidam de heresi Pharisaeorum qui crediderunt dicentes quia oportet circuncidi eos c. that it was necessary to oblige them to be Circumcised and to observe the Law of Moses in its full 〈◊〉 Upon this the Apostles assembled a Council at which all those of chiefest note were summoned to be present for the serious examination of the business And having weighed the Reasons on both sides at a large Conference Convenerunt Apostoli Seniores c. Cum autem magna conquisitio fieret c. and St. Peter having first declared himself upon the Point and being seconded by St. Iames with the general consent of the Holy Assembly there passed a Decree which was received by the whole Church in which was defined and declared with the assistance of the Holy Ghost who inspired them for the understanding Scripture that Circumcision was not at all necessary for salvation Visum est Spiritui sancto nobis c. as it had formerly been during the Law of Moses which was now to give place to the Law of Jesus Christ The business being thus concluded this Doctrine became a Point of Faith and those of the Pharisees who remained still obstinate in their opinion and those others who took part with them still pressing for a conformity with the Jews were now indeed true Pharisees in Christianity that is to say people cut of from the True Church however they pretended that she was onely in them and their Party 9. The same may be said of other Councils which have been afterwards held according to the example of that one which is the Model of all the rest Before the Heresie of Arius there was no speech of Consubstantiation That wicked Priest having dared to teach that The Blessed Word though Son of God was not of the same substance with the Father but onely like unto him found many passionate followers of his doctrine even among the Bishops who grounded themselves upon some passages of Holy Writ About which there arose a most desperate Dispute in the Church which caused a general disturbance to the peace thereof For the setling whereof and reaniting mens Spirits in one and the same Doctrine the great Council of Nice was called which did define that The Word was Consubstantial with the Father which was also inserted in the Symbol or Creed When this was done notwithstanding that many Bishops even of those who had assisted at the Council remained still of the Opinion of Arius and had made a strong and numerous Party who stiled themselves the True Church and called Councils amongst themselves they are still held and Protestants generally do even at this day hold them for Hereticks and all those who after so many Ages have followed that Sect are treated with the same stile by them The same is to be said of the Macedonians of the Nestorians Syn. Const Syn. Ephes Sy. Chalced. VI. Synod of the Eutychians of the Monothelites and the like who stand condemned in other Councils For although after their condemnations they protested that they were the True Church slighting the Councils which had Condemned their Opinions yet have they alwayes been accounted Hereticks and are so at this time by Protestants themselves And now if after they had rejected and condemned the Articles of the Arminians in their Synod of Dort those condemned persons should