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A07966 An apology of English Arminianisme or A dialogue betweene Iacobus Arminius, professour in the Vniuersity of Leyden in Holland; and Enthusiastus an English Doctour of Diuinity and a great precisian. Wherein are defended the doctrines of Arminius touching freewill, predestination, and reprobation: the said doctrines being mantained & taught by many of the most learned Protestants of England, at this present time. Written by O.N. heertofore of the Vniuersity of Oxford.; Apology of English Arminianisme. O. N., fl. 1634. 1634 (1634) STC 18333; ESTC S119849 84,307 213

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own_o 〈◊〉_d for_o the_o lord_n exclude_v not_o man_n yea_o bulinger_n be_v so_o absolute_a in_o this_o doctrine_n 〈◊〉_d that_o he_o undertake_v to_o explayne_v 〈◊〉_d ●●●_o 〈◊〉_d in_o his_o 〈◊〉_d in_o 〈◊〉_d pag_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d ●●●_o induration_n of_o pharaos_n heart_n &_o diu●●●lyke_a text_n of_o scripture_n produce_v against_o this_o our_o doctrine_n but_o to_o proceed_v further_o amandus_n polanus_fw-la thus_o teach_v 12._o teach_v amandus_n polanus_fw-la in_o partition_n theolog._n p._n 11._o 12._o god_n by_o his_o conditional_a will_n will_v have_v all_o man_n save_v and_o further_o 8._o further_o ibid._n p._n 8._o god_n do_v not_o cause_n but_o permit_v man_n to_o fall_v into_o sinne._n and_o yet_o more_o 7●_n more_o ibid._n p._n 7●_n god_n be_v not_o the_o cause_n of_o all_o thing_n that_o he_o forsee_v to_o conclude_v piscator_fw-la be_v so_o great_a a_o patron_n of_o our_o doctrine_n as_o that_o he_o 175._o he_o volume_n 1._o thes_n theolog._n pag._n 174._o 175._o allege_v 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p._n 24._o &_o disput_fw-la ●1_n p._n 507._o lobechius_n ●2_n lobechius_n in_o loc_fw-la com._n come_v 1_o the_o pr●dest_a fol._n 29._o 3●_n ●2_n sarcerius_n ●96_n sarcerius_n in_o margar●t_n theolog._n pag._n ●96_n adamus_n francisci_fw-la and_o to_o omit_v many_o other_o even_o the_o learned_a melancthon_n to_o conspire_v with_o we_o herein_o which_o melancthon_n though_o for_o a_o time_n he_o be_v devote_a to_o the_o contrary_a doctrine_n yet_o in_o his_o late_a day_n he_o whole_o disavow_v his_o say_a doctrine_n and_o agree_v with_o the_o former_a lutheran_n therein_o for_o thus_o he_o write_v ●●●_o write_v in_o council_n theolog_fw-la part_n 2._o p._n ●●●_o falsa_fw-la &_o detestanda_fw-la accusatio_fw-la est_fw-la etc._n etc._n that_o accusation_n be_v false_a and_o to_o be_v 〈◊〉_d test_a which_o say_v god_n sin_v not_o tho●_n 〈◊〉_d he_o help_v the_o wicked_a to_o perpeirate_n their_o ●●pietyes_n because_o say_v 〈◊〉_d man_n god_n 〈◊〉_d above_o the_o law_n it_o be_v lawful_a for_o 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hurtful_a to_o manner_n other_o 94._o other_o christmannus_n in_o diagraphe_n elect._n pag._n 94._o wicked_a again_o other_o k_n blasphemous_a and_o final_o other_o l_o horrendum_fw-la dogma_fw-la &_o horrendum_fw-la auditu_fw-la enthusiastus_n i_o have_v little_a thought_n before_o this_o instant_n that_o so_o great_a a_o troompe_n of_o learned_a protestant_n have_v with_o such_o a_o unani●●ous_a consent_n maintain_v this_o your_o doctrine_n but_o i_o see_v your_o allegation_n of_o ●●em_n be_v so_o precise_a and_o punctual_a that_o ●f_a force_n i_o must_v give_v way_n thereto_o but_o 〈◊〉_d i_o entreat_v you_o to_o proceed_v to_o o●her_a proof_n arminius_n 14._o k_n rungius_n in_o disput_fw-la quindecim_fw-la ex_fw-la epist_n pauli_n ad_fw-la corinth_n posteriori_fw-la disput_fw-la 14._o in_o this_o next_o place_n i_o come_v to_o the_o father_n who_o judgement_n herein_o be_v a●ove_v discover_v touch_v their_o judgement_n in_o the_o doctrine_n of_o freewill_n see_v as_o be_v above_o often_o say_v the_o doctrine_n of_o reprobation_n or_o predestination_n be_v include_v 54._o l_o and●aeas_n in_o epitome_n colloq_fw-la m●n●●sbelg_n pag._n 54._o or_o rather_o impugn_a in_o the_o doctrine_n of_o freewill_n but_o to_o take_v a_o little_a ●tast_n or_o delibation_n of_o some_o father_n particular_a say_n thus_o we_o find_v austin_n to_o write_v 10._o write_v austin_n ad_fw-la articul_fw-la sibi_fw-la falso_fw-la imposit_a art_n 10._o detestan_n la_fw-fr etc._n etc._n it_o be_v a_o hateful_a and_o abominable_a opinion_n to_o believe_v that_o god_n be_v the_o author_n of_o any_o evil_a will_n or_o action_n vincentius_n lyrinensis_n thus_o full_o write_v hereof_o medium_n hereof_o ●_o advers_a haeres_fw-la post_fw-la medium_n who_o before_o novatianus_n teach_v that_o god_n will_v rather_o the_o death_n of_o he_o that_o die_v then_o that_o he_o shall_v return_v and_o live_v which_o father_n also_o further_o say_v supra_fw-la say_v v●●_n c●nt_fw-la lyri●_n ubi_fw-la supra_fw-la who_o before_o simon_n magus_n etc._n etc._n be_v bold_a to_o affirm_v god_n the_o creator_n to_o be_v 〈◊〉_d author_n of_o our_o wicked_a deed_n thus_o you_o see_v these_o doctrine_n to_o no_o small_a blemish_n of_o they_o take_v their_o beginning_n from_o simon_n magus_n and_o the_o heretic_n novatianus_n but_o this_o point_n of_o further_a produce_v particular_a testimony_n of_o the_o father_n will_v be_v not_o much_o needful_a see_v the_o learned_a protestant_n our_o adversary_n in_o this_o doctrine_n confess_v full_o thereof_o for_o 2●7_n for_o beza_n in_o his_o display_v etc._n etc._n pag._n 2●7_n one_o of_o they_o tax_v &_o reprehend_v chrysostome_n cyrill_n origen_n &_o other_o for_o their_o different_a doctrine_n to_o they_o touch_v reprobation_n and_o another_o thus_o in_o express_a word_n confess_v hereof_o a_o acknowledgement_n above_o allege_a 3._o allege_a calulustis_n l._n 2._o c._n 4._o sect_n 3._o veteres_n omnes_fw-la etc._n etc._n all_o the_o ancient_a 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