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A97099 A helpe to the right understanding of a discourse concerning independency. Lately published by William Pryn of Lincolnes Inne, Esquire. Walwyn, William, 1600-1681. 1645 (1645) Wing W683B; Thomason E259_2; ESTC R212478 9,700 11

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other worthy man Mr. Burton or any Independent Anabaptist Brownist or any of the Separation now extant from deserving either those slight but arrogant expressions of his in his said Epistle telling the honourable Parliament That he knows not what evill Genius and Pithagorian Metempsychosis the Antiparliamentary soules formerly dwelling in our defunct Prelats earthly Tabernacles are transmigrated into and revived into a new generation of men started up of late amongst us commonly knowne by the name of Independents such bumbast inckhorne tearmes savouring so much of a meer pedanticke as ill beseemeth his relation to that supream power of Parliament And thogh those Independents for the most part are such by his owne acknowledgement whose affections and actions have demonstrated them to be reall and cordiall to the Parliament and Church of England for which saith he and for their piety they are to be highly honoured yet hath not he so much charity as to shew any inclination that they should be relieved in their just desire of Christian liberty but prosecutes all those their severall judgements as derogatory and destructive unto Parliament and Church in their Anarchicall and Antiparliamentary positions for which and for their late gathering of Independent Churches contrary to Parliamentary injunctions which were never seen they are he sayes to be justly blamed as great Disturbers of our publicke peace and unity these his great words make a great noise I confesse a man that did not converse amongst these people may easily be induced to believe them to be very dangerous Mr. Pryn is of great credit with many in authority and how far he hath therein done them wrong his owne conscience will one day tell him to his cost If Mr. Pryn were a stranger to the Separation and unacquainted with the innocency of their wayes and intentions I might charitably judge him to plead for the persecution of Gods people ignorantly as St. Paul did but since he cannot but know that they are both in affection and action re all and cordiall to the Parliament as himselfe confesses and hath found them for his owne particular compassionate in his sufferings and liberally assistant to him in his miseries I professe I can make no other construction of his so violent pleading for persecution and incensing the Parliament against a People he knowes harmlesse and modest and reasonable in their desires whose utmost end is only not to be molested in their serving of God I can make no other construction of it I say that engagement to the Divines and some interest of his owne hath begot a hardnesse over his heart and clouded that noble courage and common spirit which did possesse him If he wanted information I would labour with him but since I cannot doubt but that he hath sufficient of that I will leave him till the truth and excellency of that freedome against which he fights till the sincerity and uprightnesse of the Separation which he delivers up to the sword in these words Immedicabile vulnus ense recidendum est make him one day appeare even to his present admirers the man he is indeed In the meane time I turne to the people and desire them to enquire after the Separation and have full knowledge of them they will then finde they are extreamly misunderstood by authority and all others that apprehend them to be any other then a quiet harmlesse people no way dangerous or troublesome to humane society I have found them to be an ingenious enquiring people and charitable both in their censures of others and due regard to the poore I am become their advocate out of no engagement or relation to them I professe more then what my knowledge of their sincerity and true affection to their Country hath begotten in me Mr. Goodwin I need not speak much of he is a man so well knowne that Mr. Pryns so rigid urging of his expressions upon him as he hath too largely and spleenishly done in his Epistle making so unsavoury and utterly disproportioned comparisons betwixt him and the malignant Prelats and Anti-parliamentary Cavaliers that a man that knows the antipathy betweene them cannot but stand amazed thereat and necessarily conclude that something hath blinded not only the light of Mr. Pryns conscience but of his understanding also and then after a most unchristian application his sentence is in these dismall old Antichristian and Prelaticall tearms if they will not be reclaimed fiat justitia better some should suffer then all perish but happy it is that the power of Parliament is not in Mr. Pryn if it were in the minde he is now in 't is much to be doubted his part would differ little from Bonners or Gardiners in Queen Maries dayes but blessed be God it is otherwise nor will that just Authority I presume be moved either with his fierce exclamations or incomparable flatteries to doe any thing contrary to right reason and true Christianity nor is there indeed the fore mentioned rule holding any cause why that supreme Authority should be offended for all sorts of Independents whether Anabaptists or Brownists or Antinomians or any other doe all agree that in all Civill and Military causes and affaires they have an absolute supreme power And if they shall conceive it just and necessary for the State to propose one way of worship for a generall rule throughout the Land and shall ingratiate the same by an exemption from all offence and scandall of weake consciences as far as is possible The Independents c. have nothing to oppose against their wisdomes and if the publicke way should be such as should agree with any of their judgements and consciences they would most readily joyne in fellowship therein but if their judgements and consciences should not be fully satisfied concerning the same then whatsoever is not of faith is sinne and they cannot but disjoyne and in such a case all good men that know them will shew themselves true Christians indeed in becomming humble suters to the Parliament that as for convenience to the State they propose one generall publicke way so for the ease of tender consciences and for avoyding of sinne either in compelling of worship contrary to conscience or in restraint of consciencious worship they would be pleased to allow unto all men that through difference of judgement could not joyne with the publicke congregations the free and undisturbed exercise of their consciences in private congregations And if they should be pleased so to doe it is but what is agreeable to common equity and true Christian liberty It hath beene the wisdome of all judicious Patriots to frame such laws and government as all peaceable well minded people might delight to live under binding from all things palpably vitious by the greatest punishments and proposing of rewards and incouragements to all publicke vertue but in things wherein every man ought to be fully perswaded in his particular minde of the lawfulnesse or unlawfulnesse thereof there to leave every man to