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A33735 The perfect pharisee under monkish holinesse opposing the fundamentall principles of the doctrine of the gospel, and scripture-practices of gospel-worship manifesting himselfe in the generation of men called Quakers, or, A preservative against the grosse blasphemies and horrid delusions of those, who under pretence of perfection and an immediate call from God, make it their business to revile and disturb the ministers of the gospel published for the establishing of the people of God in the faith once delivered to the saints, and in a speciall manner directed to beleevers, in Newcastle and Gateside. Weld, Thomas, 1590?-1662.; Cole, William. 1653 (1653) Wing C5045; ESTC R37653 40,293 52

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them For that so much objected text Luke 10. 4. Carry neither purse nor scrip nor shooes and salute no man by the way 1. You may see that by the same command the seventy Disciples were forbid to weare shooes or carry a purse and yet these Qurkers who doe so imperiously impose upon all men this not saluting make no conscience at all of these commands of not wearing shooes and not carrying purses as is evident to any that observes them especially if they be travelling a far journey And this was very fitly objected by one in Lancashire to Iames Nayler reproving him for his salute who retorted the words upon him againe as being guilty of the breach of that command by wearing shooes Is not this to picke and choose in the Scriptures such things as doe most agree with their humors and according to their owne fancy to take away from the Scriptures and bring upon themselves that cur●e Rev. 22. which they p●onounce against others if it be so that this example be any wayes or in any part binding to us at this day 2. Further Let the Reader know this is no binding example to us but a particular dispensation and command to the seven●y Disciples at that time as will appeare For 1. When he sends forth the Apostles he imposeth not that command upon them but layes upon them a contrary injunction Into what house soever yee enter salute it Mat. 10. 12. And 2. The Apostles practice above shewed cleares they were under no such command for as much as they walked contrary unlesse you charge Paul with sinning in that Rom. 16. Asts 21 As 3. They commanded this worke to others as above is proved 4 That generall command to the Saints to salute all not onely brethren but also enemies Mat. 5 47. evidenceth fully this that wa● but a particular dispensation and so to us it is not binding 3 To close up this to us it appears a very ungrounded distinction of the nature of salutes which is practised by these very men for all their trouble in salutes is about mens putting off the Hat whereas themselves doe ordinarily salute their brethren as doe the Publicans not onely with saying How d●st thou but also with putting forth the hand c. Now the Hand and the Language with the moving of the body being the way of saluting among the Iewes in those dayes if the manner of our salutes be so much dis-relished its evident the practice of Quakers more directly contradicts that command then the practice of any others Thus the Reader may take notice how groundlesse their clamour is in crying out against saluting and how malicious in making this an Argument against the Ministry For it being clearely a command to salute all as for the manner of it whether by Words or putting off the Hat we shall not be determined by their judgement For as one Country is not bound to the habits of another nor is it the duty of a Saint in England to weare that kind of garment which was worn by a Iew in the time of Christ so neither did the Apostles take it their duty to be conformed in their salutes to the fashions of salutation used either in other Countries or by the Patriarches in their own Principle 2. Not giving any outward t●ken of Reverence to Magistrate Parent Master or any other Confut. Gen. 42 6. Ioseph being the Governour of the Land when his Brethren came before him they bowed themselves before him with their Faces to the Earth Gen. 23. 7 Abraham stood up and bowed himselfe to the people of the Land even to the Children of Heth. 1 Sam. 25. 23. That holy Woman Abigail when she saw David she fell before David on her Face and bowed her selfe to the ground Gen. 33. 3. Iacob bowed to Esau seven times Gen. 48. 12. Ioseph bowed himselfe with his Face to his Father Iacob 1 Kings 1. 23. Na●han the Prophet bowed himselfe to the King with his Face to the ground Now this was a knowne token of Honour due and by these holy persons given to Magistrates and Parents Let any Christian Reader consider the fifth Commandement Honour thy Father and thy Mother And Rom. 13. 7. Render to all their due tribute to whom tribute honour to whom honour Now as tribute and honour are here apparent to be due so it is also plaine that they are due outwardly For otherwise to pay tribute in the heart onely would be but a ridiculous illusion as also is their saying their heart doth honour men when there is no outward expression thereof at all But they will tell us they honour the power not the persons To which we say What is the power without the person Government without Governours but a meere fancy This is an high way to powre contempt upon persons in supreame Authority as if a Souldier should say He would honour the supreame Office in the Army but would not heare the Lord Generall Cromwell How doth this notion cause so much irreverent carriage in their practice generally before the Magistrates And we leave it to the Magistrates to consider how impossible it shall be for any to commit treason against the person of any Magistrate if there be no honour due to their person but their power But so much may satisfie for that Principle 3. That no man must have the title of Master Confut. In the old Testament the Saints frequently were so ca●led ●ts no lesse then seventeen times spoken of Abraham Gen. 24. Exod. ●● 5 ●Sam 24 6. David calls King Saul Master 2 Kings 6. 5. One of the Prophets gives that also to Elis●a Alas Master it was bo●●owed So the Apostle Eph. 6. 5. 9. Servants be obed●●nt to your Masters Col. 3. 22. So in 1 Tim. 6. 1. Let ●●● Servants count their owne Masters worthy of all honour that the name of God and his Doctrine be not blasph●med Now for what is objected that this onely speaks to the case of servants to their owne Masters we wish the Reader to know that the Prophet 2 Kings 6. 5. was not a servant to Elisha though he called him Master nor David servant to Saul when he was in actuall armes against him we meane he was not his Family servant when he gave him that title of honour and called him Master ●Sam 24. 6. And if the Quakers stand so punctually upon the command of Christ Mat. 23. 10. let them know that if that command were binding in this sense which they put upon it it should hold in the case of the heads of Families as fully as any others and so the Apostle should sinne in calling them Masters 1 Tim. 6. 1. Further consider the word Sirs is the same expression with Master in our English compellation and in the Originall and you shall frequently finde it given to those that were not Masters to them that called them so Gen. 43 20. Sir we came downe at the first c. John 12. 21. Sir we