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A67437 The history & vindication of the loyal formulary, or Irish remonstrance ... received by His Majesty anno 1661 ... in several treatises : with a true account and full discussion of the delusory Irish remonstrance and other papers framed and insisted on by the National Congregation at Dublin, anno 1666, and presented to ... the Duke of Ormond, but rejected by His Grace : to which are added three appendixes, whereof the last contains the Marquess of Ormond ... letter of the second of December, 1650 : in answer to both the declaration and excommunication of the bishops, &c. at Jamestown / the author, Father Peter Walsh ... Walsh, Peter, 1618?-1688.; Ormonde, James Butler, Duke of, 1610-1688. Articles of peace.; Rothe, David, 1573-1650. Queries concerning the lawfulnesse of the present cessation. 1673 (1673) Wing W634; ESTC R13539 1,444,938 1,122

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only_o such_o cause_n as_o be_v mere_o ecclesiastical_a that_o peter_n martyr_n in_o cap._n 13._o add_v roman_n not_o only_o teach_v the_o very_a same_o but_o further_a add_v that_o prince_n can_v not_o give_v clerk_n the_o privilege_n to_o be_v exempt_a from_o or_o not_o to_o be_v subject_a to_o the_o politic_a magistrate_n because_o say_v martyr_n this_o will_v be_v against_o the_o law_n of_o god_n and_o therefore_o that_o notwithstanding_o any_o concession_n of_o prince_n clerk_n ought_v always_o to_o be_v subject_a to_o the_o secular_a magistrate_n and_o that_o joannes_n brentius_n in_o prologam●nis_n and_o melanchthon_n in_o locis_fw-la cap._n the_o magistrate_n subject_a ecclesiastic_n to_o the_o secular_a tribunal_n even_o in_o matter_n and_o cause_n ecclesiastical_a but_o who_o be_v so_o weak_a as_o to_o be_v fright_v from_o any_o truth_n because_o maintain_v also_o or_o assert_v by_o some_o liar_n or_o who_o know_v not_o that_o all_o both_o heretic_n and_o arch-heretic_n too_o 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pontifice_fw-la svo_fw-la ad_fw-la judicia_fw-la publica_fw-la pertrahant_n proinde_fw-la statuimus_fw-la ut_fw-la hoc_fw-la de_fw-la caetero_fw-la non_fw-la praesumatur_fw-la si_fw-mi quis_fw-la hoc_fw-la praesumpserit_fw-la facere_fw-la &_o causam_fw-la perdat_fw-la &_o a_o communione_n efficiatur_fw-la extraneus_fw-la out_o of_o both_o these_o council_n that_o be_v out_o of_o that_o eight_o canon_n of_o that_o first_o matisconensian_a council_n and_o this_o 13._o canon_n of_o the_o three_o toletan_n our_o learned_a cardinal_n endeavour_v again_o to_o impose_v on_o his_o unlearned_a reader_n but_o not_o so_o much_o in_o his_o great_a work_n of_o controversy_n l._n 1._o de_fw-fr cler._n c._n 28._o where_o he_o only_o or_o at_o least_o common_o cite_v the_o bare_a chapter_n and_o not_o as_o much_o as_o the_o material_a word_n of_o council_n so_o far_o he_o be_v from_o compose_v argument_n but_o in_o that_o other_o book_n he_o write_v long_o after_o against_o d._n w._n barclay_n and_o 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a_o mere_a layman_n ordain_v in_o his_o confirmation_n of_o this_o toledan_a council_n &_o in_o his_o own_o name_n too_o that_o if_o any_o person_n concilii_fw-la observator_fw-la esse_fw-la noluerit_fw-la superba_fw-la front_n majorum_fw-la statutis_fw-la repugnans_fw-la si_fw-la episcopus_fw-la praesbiter_n diaconus_fw-la aut_fw-la clericus_fw-la fuerit_fw-la ab_fw-la omni_fw-la concilio_n excommunicationi_fw-la subjaceat_fw-la what_o be_v the_o power_n of_o excommunication_n in_o a_o lie_v king_n hand_n or_o do_v recaredus_n the_o very_a first_o catholic_n king_n after_o those_o arian_n gothish_a king_n of_o spain_n a_o king_n so_o true_o catholic_n and_o pious_a as_o he_o be_v confess_v to_o have_v be_v do_v he_o usurp_v the_o right_n and_o proper_a power_n of_o the_o church_n and_o even_o in_o that_o very_a edict_n unto_o which_o the_o father_n of_o this_o toledan_a council_n do_v themselves_o subscribe_v themselves_o nothing_o less_o what_o he_o do_v in_o this_o respect_n or_o 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