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so_o require_v they_o can_v be_v say_v to_o require_v without_o or_o against_o law_n and_o if_o these_o particular_n which_o they_o require_v be_v not_o manifest_o against_o the_o word_n of_o god_n i_o can_v see_v how_o we_o can_v be_v excuse_v from_o sin_n if_o we_o disobey_v consider_v that_o establishment_n which_o by_o law_n they_o have_v among_o we_o sect._n 39_o answ_n 3_o 3._o but_o may_v we_o do_v nothing_o but_o what_o we_o be_v bind_v to_o do_v yea_o be_v we_o not_o bind_v for_o peace_n sake_n to_o do_v all_o that_o we_o lawful_o may_v do_v suppose_v our_o governor_n shall_v lay_v the_o peace_n of_o the_o church_n upon_o such_o slight_a matter_n as_o be_v of_o no_o consideration_n in_o comparison_n with_o it_o and_o this_o be_v indeed_o their_o imprudence_n and_o possible_o their_o sin_n yet_o when_o this_o be_v do_v if_o we_o submit_v not_o suppose_v the_o thing_n to_o be_v lawful_a in_o themselves_o i_o see_v not_o but_o that_o the_o violation_n of_o the_o church_n peace_n will_v be_v lay_v upon_o we_o as_o well_o as_o upon_o they_o nor_o will_v their_o imprudence_n excuse_v our_o sin_n there_o may_v perhaps_o be_v some_o kind_n of_o sin_n in_o they_o require_v but_o i_o be_o sure_a when_o the_o thing_n require_v be_v not_o material_o evil_a there_o can_v be_v no_o sin_n in_o we_o in_o obey_v let_v we_o not_o therefore_o so_o much_o consider_v what_o they_o must_v or_o may_v require_v but_o what_o we_o may_v and_o shall_v do_v when_o it_o be_v require_v and_o we_o shall_v have_v peace_n sect._n 40_o except_o partic._n 5_o 5._o the_o next_o great_a exception_n be_v the_o bishop_n claim_n to_o be_v spiritual_a lord_n contrary_a to_o the_o royal_a prerogative_n of_o jesus_n christ_n the_o only_a lord_n and_o king_n of_o the_o church_n 48._o the_o same_o which_o johnson_n the_o separatist_n make_v against_o our_o church_n see_v unreason_n of_o separate_a p._n 47_o 48._o and_o express_o contrary_a to_o that_o rule_n of_o the_o 3._o the_o 1_o pet._n 5.2_o 3._o apostle_n where_o they_o if_o those_o elder_n be_v suppose_v to_o be_v bishop_n be_v only_o to_o oversee_v the_o flock_n and_o not_o as_o lord_n over_o god_n heritage_n but_o as_o ensample_n to_o the_o flock_n yea_o contrary_a to_o the_o royal_a dignity_n of_o the_o king_n and_o temporal_a magistrate_n both_o in_o civil_a and_o ecclesiastical_a cause_n for_o they_o have_v their_o voice_n and_o authority_n in_o parliament_n for_o enact_v law_n for_o the_o commonwealth_n they_o be_v ruler_n of_o province_n and_o diocese_n in_o ecclesiastical_a cause_n in_o civil_a state_n and_o dignity_n some_o of_o they_o above_o all_o all_o of_o they_o above_o some_o of_o the_o noble_n justices_z and_o other_o magistrate_n of_o the_o land_n they_o and_o their_o court_n handle_v and_o determine_v civil_a cause_n and_o affair_n that_o appertain_v to_o the_o magistracy_n they_o inflict_v civil_a mulct_n and_o penalty_n give_v licence_n in_o several_a case_n all_o the_o priest_n and_o deacon_n be_v exempt_a from_o the_o magistrate_n jurisdiction_n in_o divers_a thing_n and_o answerable_a only_o or_o chief_o to_o the_o prelate_n and_o their_o officer_n sect._n 41_o for_o answer_n here_o be_v a_o great_a charge_n indeed_o but_o it_o signify_v nothing_o as_o to_o the_o business_n before_o we_o viz._n our_o submission_n for_o peace_n sake_n for_o answ_n 1_o 1._o shall_v they_o claim_v to_o be_v what_o they_o be_v not_o for_o there_o be_v a_o vast_a difference_n between_o to_o be_v and_z to_o claim_v to_o be_v may_v we_o yet_o not_o lawful_o obey_v they_o in_o thing_n honest_a though_o we_o own_v not_o their_o claim_n i_o judge_v we_o may_v the_o claim_n may_v be_v unjust_a in_o they_o and_o yet_o the_o thing_n which_o they_o require_v of_o we_o may_v be_v fit_a to_o be_v do_v by_o we_o sect._n 42_o answ_n 2_o 2._o though_o they_o shall_v claim_v more_o than_o belong_v to_o they_o yet_o this_o make_v not_o a_o nullity_n of_o that_o authority_n which_o be_v their_o due_n what_o they_o may_v just_o require_v as_o bishop_n and_o governor_n of_o the_o church_n they_o may_v require_v have_v they_o not_o those_o title_n of_o spiritual_a lord_n and_o then_o the_o addition_n of_o that_o title_n destroy_v not_o their_o power_n of_o bishop_n sect._n 43_o answ_n 3_o 3._o but_o they_o neither_o be_v nor_o claim_v to_o be_v such_o spiritual_a lord_n as_o the_o objection_n impli_v as_o even_o the_o 65._o the_o bradsh_fw-mi unreas_fw-la of_o separ_fw-la p._n 65._o learned_a nonconformist_n have_v acknowledge_v and_o which_o their_o canon_n and_o practice_n show_v for_o those_o thing_n which_o be_v antecedent_o necessary_a by_o the_o law_n of_o god_n they_o do_v command_v and_o press_v not_o as_o their_o own_o but_o as_o the_o law_n of_o christ._n and_o for_o thing_n which_o be_v of_o another_o nature_n the_o practice_n whereof_o be_v make_v necessary_a pro_fw-la hic_fw-la &_o nunc_fw-la by_o their_o constitution_n they_o prescribe_v they_o not_o so_o as_o to_o bind_v the_o 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the_o church_n here_o must_v be_v in_o a_o very_a great_a measure_n acknowledge_v the_o judge_n and_o which_o be_v by_o christ_n leave_v free_a to_o the_o church_n to_o order_v according_a to_o the_o condition_n of_o time_n and_o place_n and_o other_o circumstance_n sect._n 44_o answ_n 4_o 4._o and_o as_o they_o encroach_v not_o upon_o the_o prerogative_n royal_a of_o jesus_n christ_n so_o neither_o do_v they_o infringe_v the_o authority_n of_o the_o king_n and_o civil_a magistrate_n and_o to_o evidence_n this_o i_o need_v say_v no_o more_o than_o that_o which_o the_o forecited_a 47._o forecited_a unreas_n of_o separ_fw-la p._n 47._o mr._n bradshaw_n though_o no_o friend_n to_o the_o bishop_n have_v say_v in_o answer_n to_o this_o very_a objection_n 1._o that_o the_o prelate_n claim_v their_o voice_n in_o parliament_n not_o as_o divine_a ordinance_n appertain_v to_o their_o prelateship_n but_o as_o a_o honour_n annex_v to_o the_o same_o by_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n 2._o their_o 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several_o at_o once_o together_o three_o time_n than_o each_o several_o apart_o once_o then_o again_o once_o and_o thrice_o and_o afterward_o thrice_o and_o once_o with_o a_o cross_v of_o himself_o between_o all_o this_o first_o with_o his_o hand_n then_o with_o the_o host_n he_o cross_v the_o chalice_n three_o time_n then_o two_o odd_a time_n more_o to_o make_v up_o the_o five_o wound_n of_o christ_n then_o with_o the_o patin_n he_o cross_v himself_o once_o and_o the_o chalice_n three_o time_n with_o a_o piece_n of_o the_o host_n and_o once_o himself_o again_o with_o the_o host_n over_o the_o patin_n and_o last_o once_o himself_o again_o with_o the_o chalice_n all_o which_o vanity_n stand_v not_o with_o the_o simplicity_n of_o christ_n holy_a institution_n but_o take_v their_o beginning_n from_o sorcerer_n and_o magician_n who_o do_v glory_n in_o one_o three_o and_o five_o and_o the_o like_a 8._o like_a necte_fw-la tribus_fw-la nodis_fw-la ternos_fw-la amarilli_n colores_fw-la virg._n eccl._n 8._o see_v more_o in_o vierg_n de_fw-mi praestig_fw-mi daem_fw-la l._n 5._o chap_n 4._o corn._n agr._n de_fw-fr vanit_fw-la scien_fw-fr c._n 47_o &_o 48._o &_o the_o occult_a philos_fw-la l._n 2._o c._n 4_o 6_o 8._o odd_a number_n §_o 30_o 2._o but_o in_o baptism_n we_o still_o allow_v the_o sign_n of_o the_o cross_n because_o ancient_o general_o receive_v and_o simple_o apply_v and_o though_o abuse_v by_o the_o papist_n yet_o we_o can_v separate_v and_o have_v do_v so_o the_o corruption_n that_o be_v among_o they_o from_o the_o lawful_a use_n that_o be_v retain_v with_o we_o though_o they_o and_o we_o both_o we_o do_v use_v the_o sign_n of_o the_o cross_n and_o that_o in_o the_o sacrament_n baptism_n yet_o to_o a_o man_n of_o understand_v the_o difference_n be_v great_a for_o indeed_o the_o popish_a corruption_n be_v all_o purge_v out_o of_o it_o as_o we_o see_v in_o the_o particular_n sc_a for_o 1._o they_o hold_v that_o with_o it_o they_o 59_o they_o greâ—z_n de_fw-fr crnce_n l._n 4._o c._n 36._o &_o 59_o consecrate_v baptism_n itself_o we_o only_o use_v it_o on_o the_o child_n baptise_a 2._o they_o make_v it_o a_o part_n of_o divine_a worship_n we_o do_v not_o 3._o they_o in_o a_o unknown_a tongue_n not_o give_v a_o reason_n why_o nor_o to_o what_o end_n we_o in_o a_o know_a language_n give_v all_o to_o understand_v that_o we_o be_v far_o from_o popery_n or_o superstition_n 4._o they_o hold_v the_o sacrament_n of_o no_o force_n or_o very_o small_a many_o of_o they_o deny_v a_o child_n without_o the_o cross_n can_v have_v his_o christendom_n as_o they_o call_v it_o we_o disclaim_v that_o doctrine_n 5._o they_o make_v it_o a_o matter_n of_o merit_n to_o deserve_v by_o we_o neither_o know_v nor_o preach_v any_o but_o the_o merit_n of_o our_o lord_n and_o saviour_n 6._o they_o judge_v the_o sign_n of_o the_o cross_a nuuquid_fw-la cross_a de_fw-fr consecrat_fw-mi do_v 5._o c._n nuuquid_fw-la a_o matter_n of_o necessity_n unto_o salvation_n we_o only_o a_o thing_n indifferent_a in_o its_o own_o nature_n that_o may_v be_v leave_v or_o retain_v as_o authority_n see_v good_a 7._o they_o as_o of_o the_o 13._o the_o gretz_n de_fw-fr cruse_n l._n 4._o c._n 13._o essence_n that_o without_o sin_n may_v not_o be_v omit_v we_o as_o a_o accident_n that_o upon_o lawful_a cause_n may_v be_v separate_v 8._o they_o 30._o they_o bellar._n the_o sanct_a imag._n l._n 2._o c._n 30._o worship_v it_o we_o do_v not_o 9_o they_o use_v it_o 36._o it_o gretz_n de_fw-fr cruse_n l._n 4._o c._n 36._o to_o drive_v away_o devil_n we_o ascribe_v no_o such_o virtue_n to_o it_o 10._o they_o use_v it_o daily_o hourly_o every_o moment_n upon_o every_o occasion_n we_o but_o once_o in_o baptism_n 11._o they_o in_o every_o part_n of_o the_o body_n we_o only_o in_o the_o child_n forehead_n and_o but_o once_o only_o in_o token_n he_o be_v not_o to_o be_v ashamed_a etc._n etc._n 12._o they_o write_v it_o satisfy_v for_o sin_n and_o malignum_fw-la and_o per_fw-la crucis_fw-la ho_o signum_fw-la depellitur_fw-la omne_fw-la malignum_fw-la preserve_v from_o evil_a we_o prove_v the_o contrary_n 13._o they_o teach_v it_o a_o infallible_a mark_n to_o distinguish_v a_o true_a professor_n from_o a_o heretic_n 14._o they_o teach_v that_o nothing_o can_v be_v consecrate_v without_o it_o we_o disavow_v that_o doctrine_n 15._o they_o say_v it_o can_v and_o do_v 49._o do_v gretz_n l._n 4._o c._n 49._o cure_v bodily_a disease_n we_o find_v no_o such_o thing_n 16._o they_o teach_v it_o have_v a_o virtue_n against_o all_o enchantment_n we_o rather_o doubt_v it_o as_o they_o use_v it_o a_o enchantment_n itself_o 17._o some_o among_o they_o etc._n they_o gersom_a serm_n de_fw-fr b._n virg._n part_n 3._o consideratione_n 2._o cajetan_n in_o thom._n etc._n etc._n hold_v it_o may_v stead_v child_n in_o place_n of_o baptism_n we_o deny_v it_o here_o we_o see_v then_o there_o be_v such_o and_o so_o many_o difference_n between_o we_o and_o the_o papist_n that_o though_o we_o use_v the_o same_o sign_n once_o yet_o we_o be_v far_o from_o own_v their_o superstition_n nor_o can_v our_o church_n be_v therefore_o charge_v with_o popery_n in_o this_o thing_n nor_o indeed_o idem_fw-la indeed_o duo_o cum_fw-la faciunt_fw-la idem_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la idem_fw-la to_o do_v the_o same_o thing_n as_o they_o do_v so_o that_o possible_a it_o be_v to_o retain_v as_o we_o do_v a_o lawful_a use_n separate_v from_o all_o superstitious_a or_o idolatrous_a abuse_n therefore_o whatsoever_o abuse_n have_v be_v or_o yet_o be_v in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n they_o be_v not_o chargeable_a on_o we_o who_o deny_v they_o nor_o be_v it_o necessary_a for_o we_o to_o lay_v aside_o the_o use_n of_o this_o sign_n of_o the_o cross_n when_o we_o have_v thus_o purge_v it_o from_o the_o popish_a corruption_n and_o may_v keep_v it_o so_o purge_v still_o nor_o nor_o do_v the_o abuse_n of_o other_o of_o which_o we_o be_v not_o guilty_a former_a abuse_n among_o ourselves_o if_o any_o have_v be_v which_o be_v not_o continue_v full_a necessary_o engage_v or_o oblige_v we_o to_o do_v it_o §_o 31_o 3._o hence_o be_v we_o help_v to_o a_o ready_a answer_n and_o easy_a solution_n to_o that_o analogical_a argument_n draw_v from_o hezekiahs_n act_n in_o break_v the_o brazen_a serpent_n for_o indeed_o the_o analogy_n hold_v not_o the_o case_n be_v different_a for_o §_o 32_o 1._o the_o brazen_a serpent_n be_v not_o a_o sign_n only_o but_o that_o very_o material_a numericall_a serpent_n 18.4_o serpent_n num_fw-la 21_o 8-2_a king_n 18.4_o which_o be_v make_v by_o moses_n and_o be_v the_o instrument_n of_o the_o deliverance_n of_o their_o father_n and_o be_v preserve_v to_o that_o day_n and_o people_n therefore_o be_v more_o ready_a to_o worship_v that_o as_o if_o that_o have_v save_v they_o and_o so_o it_o be_v a_o more_o difficult_a thing_n to_o separate_v the_o idolatry_n from_o the_o memorial_n but_o in_o this_o rite_n we_o have_v only_o a_o transient_a resemblance_n 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