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A14435 A very Christian, learned, and briefe discourse, concerning the true, ancient, and Catholicke faith, against all wicked vp-start heresies seruing very profitably for a preseruatiue against the profane nouelties of papists, Anabaptists, Arrians, Brownists, and all other sectaries. First composed by Vincentius Lirinensis in Latine, about twelue hundreth yeares ago. And now faithfully translated into English, and illustrated with certaine marginall notes. By Thomas Tuke.; Pro catholicae fidei antiquitate libellus. English Vincent, of LĂ©rins, Saint, d. ca. 450.; Tuke, Thomas, d. 1657. aut 1611 (1611) STC 24753; ESTC S102090 49,335 192

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doctrines Whom when the Congregation being assembled all together might seeme to incourage to vndertake and to determine something of themselues yet would they giue nothing presume nothing arrogate nothing to themselues at all but by all meanes prouided that they might not deliuer any thing to their posterity which they themselues had not receiued of their Fathers and that they might not only order the matter well for the present but giue example also to them that should suceede that they also might embrace the doctrines of sacred Antiquity and condemne the deuises of prophane Nouelty Wee inueighed also against the wicked presumption of Nestorius because he boasted that he did first and onely vnderstand the holy Scripture and that all those whatsoeuer were ignorāt of it which being teachers before him had handled the Oracles of God to wit all Priests all Confessors and Martyrs some of which had explained Gods word and others had consented or giuen credit to the Explainers of it and lastly because he did affirme that the whole Church doth now erre and that it hath alwaies erred which as to him seemed had both alwaies followed and did now follow ignorant and erroneous Teachers CHAP. 43. ALl which things though they cannot plentifully aboundantly suffice to ouerwhelme and extinguish all prophane nouelties yet least any thing should seeme to bee lacking where there is such plenty of proofe to cleare this point we haue in the last place added a double authority of the Apostlicke See namely one of the holy Pope or Father Xistus who like a reuerend man doth at this present aduance the Church of Rome and the other of his Predecessor of blessed memory Pope Calestine whose authorities wee haue deemed needfull heere also to interpose Pope Xistus then saith in an Epistle which he sent to the Bishop of Antioch about the cause of Nestorius Therefore quoth he because as the Apostle saith there is one Faith which hath euidently preuailed let vs hold those things that are to be beleeued and let vs beleeue those things that are to bee held At the length hee sheweth the things that are to bee held and beleeued and saith Let no libertie quoth he bee giuen at all to Nouelty because it is fitting that nothing should be added to Antiquity Let the manifest faith and credulity of the Elders be troubled with no mixture of mire Speeches altogether Apostolical in that hee adornes the credulity or faith of the Elders by comparing it to the Light for the manifestnesse or clearenesse of it and describes nouell profanities or prophane nouelties by likening them to the mixture of mire But Pope Caelestine also deales in the like manner and is of the same iudgement For he saith in an Epistle which he sent to the French Ministers reprouing their conniuencie because they letting the ancient faith to be iniured through their silence did suffer prophane nouelties to start vp Iustly quoth hee the matter concernes vs if we shall nourish an error with holding our peace Let such men therefore be rebuked let them not haue liberty of speech at such their pleasure Some man here may peraduenture doubt who those may be whom hee forbids that they should haue libertie to speake what they list whether the Preachers of Antiquity or the Deuisers of Nouelty Let him speake himselfe and answer the doubting of the Readers For it followeth Let Nouelty cease saith hee if the case stand thus that is if it bee so that some accuse your Citties and Prouinces to me because you make them to giue consent to certaine Nouelties through your dangerous winking at them Let Nouelty therefore cease saith hee if the matter stand so to inuade and incroach vpon Antiquity This then was the blessed iudgment of blessed Celestine not that Antiquity should cease to ouerthrow Nouelty but rather that Nouelty should cease to gather ground vpon and inuade Antiquity Which Apostolicke and Catholicke decrees whosoeuer doth gainesay hee must needs first of al triumph ouer the memory of Saint Celestine who determined that Nouelty should cease to vexe and inuade Antiquity and in the second place scorne the decrees of holy Xystus who iudged that no liberty at all should be granted to Nouelty because it is meete that nothing shold be added to Antiquity yea contemne the determinatiōs of blessed Cyprian who did greatly extoll the zeale of reuerend Capreolus because hee desired that the doctrines of the ancient Faith should be confirmed and that nouell deuises should be condemned and despise the Counsell of Ephesus also that is the iudgements of the holy Bishops almost of all the East whom it pleased by Gods direction to determine that the Posterity should beleeue no other thing but that which the sacred and in Christ vnanimous Antiquity of the holy Fathers had held and who also with their cryes and exclamations witnessed with one consent that these are the words of all that they did all wish this that they were all of this iudgement that as almost all Heretickes before Nestorius despising Antiquity and desending nouelty should be condemned euen so Nestorius himselfe also should be condemned as an author of Nouelty and an impugner of Antiquity whose consent being inspired by an holy gift and of heauenly grace to whom it is displeasing What else doth follow but that he should affirme that the wickednesse of Nestorius was not iustly condemned and lastly also contemne the whole Church of Christ and his Teachers Apostles and Prophets but yet especially the Apostle Paul as certaine filth or off-scourings Her because she neuer departed frō the religion of the saith once deliuered vnto her to be husbanded carefully lookt vnto and Him because he hath written O Timotheus keep that which is committed vnto thee auoiding profane nouelties of words And also If any one shall preach vnto you otherwise then that yee haue receiued let him be accursed If so be that neither Apostolicall ordinances nor Ecclesiasticall decrees be to be broken by the which according to the sacred consent of the vniuersall and ancient Church all Hereticks alwaies and last of all Pelagius Celestius and Nestorius haue ben iustly and worthily condemned it is necessealy doubtlesse for all Catholickes hereafter which study to shewe themselues the lawfull Children of the Church their Mother that they should sticke and cleaue vnto and dye in the holy faith of the holy Fathers and that they should detest abhorre inueigh against and persecute the profane Nouelties of profane persons These are well nigh the things which being more largely handled in the two Aduertisments are cōtracted as a recapitulation ought to be that my memory for the helping whereof we haue done these things might bee both refreshed by being continually put in minde and not oppressed with wearinesse caused by long discourses Trin-vni Deo Gloria FINIS LONDON Printed by NICHOLAS OKES for LEONARD BECKET and are to be sold at his Shop