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A12923 The triall of the supremacy wherein is set fourth ye unitie of christes church milita[n]t geue[n] to S. Peter and his successoures by Christe and that there ought to be one head bishop in earth Christes vicar generall ouer all hys churche militant: wyth answeres to the blasphemous obiections made agaynste the same in the late miserable yeres now paste. Standish, John, 1507?-1570. 1556 (1556) STC 23211; ESTC S100970 78,260 315

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only when it was geuē in Marke the thirde chapiter and yet this their comen name was not added withoute a great prerogatiue for y t onelye Iohn and Iames were admitted with Peter to be at the trāsfiguracion and at the raysing of the ruler of the Sinagoges doughter also at his prayer in the garden before his death Howbeit Peter had his name chaunged and had a name geuen which was deriued out of christes owne name which is petra a stone so that christ did communicate his owne name to Peter signifyinge that he should kepe his owne place after him and be the stone the foundacion of his church But of this chaunginge of Peters name is more largelye spoken in the .xii. probation The .viii. obiection Al the apostels receyued immediatly of Christ like equal dignity power and authoritye euen ouer thuniuersal churche of christ he saying to al and to euery one indifferently as my father send me I send you receyue al ●holy ghost go into al places of the world preache baptise heale diseases and forgiue sinnes Thanswere Not onlye thappostels but also .72 disciples receyued all these of Christ in so much that y e people of Samaria through Phillp the deacons preaching receyued the ghospel and were baptised then was rather the tyme to congregate and gether together with all spede the flocke of Christe then to make any mention of rulinge or gouerninge them Notwithstanding before all these commissions Peter was made head ouer all Math. the .xvi. as is declared in the answeres to the first and tenth obiectiōs in sundrye places mo of this booke Wherfore Saynct Ambrose sayth that at the beginninge all taught and baptised at all times and in all places not only in churches as occasion serued but as sone as the people were somewhat gathered together in the fayth and churches builded then were ordres sette and rulers appointed by tholy ghost some in this place and some in that euen as christ promised So that this now iustlye weyed what maketh this obiection against Peters authoritie which was geuen to him before by Christ Surelye no more then now it should be agaynst the legates prerogatiue if Peters successour the Pope woulde for vrgēt causes constitute certayne inferiour Bishops to be legates equall with him geuinge them all and to euerye one of them his owne full authoritye some into Germany some into Denmarke c. Yea and beside this who doth not se y t though legates haue the Popes full authoritie geuen them yet in the foundation of the authoritye all is not equall no more then Christe geuinge to all the appostelles and to the .27 disciples also his owne whole and full authoritye that he had of his father was in the roote foundacion to be counted all equall power and authoritye with that whiche he him selfe had of his heauenly father Agayne what Idiote will iudge the .27 Disciples to be equall with thappostels thoughe in that legacy and imbassage concerninge preaching and baptisinge they were appoynted by Christ as all equall And euen now here the same is to be said to that in this imbassage or legacye Christe for the time send all forthe wyth that equall commyssyon to gether the people not then speakynge of anye gonerninge of theym in whiche gouerninge when it shoulde ones be put in execution Peter was ordeyned euē by Christ to be the head Mathue the .xvi. So that all this theyr commission and aucthoritye was but taken forthe of Peters ¶ The ninthe obiection Anacletus and also Ciprian do saye that all the apostles had equall power and dignitye geuen to theym by Christ but bycause all should preache one thinge therfore the beginning thereof first began by one which was Peter Yea and he sayeth further in the church there is one office of all bushoppes wherof euerye one hath a part allotted whollye vnto him ¶ The answere This is somwhat answered vnto in the last responsion Neuertheles to speake a lytle further therin S. Aug. saith that S. Peter and S. Paule were equall but he doth not leue it so raw but declareth how sayinge they were equall in merite but in power and authorytye Peter didde farre excell like as Paule did in science Howbeit in power to forgyue sinnes in power to preache in power to minister the Sacramentes in excommunicatinge c. all were lyke and all theyr power was like not onelye amonge thappostels but also if ye ioyne the .72 disciples wyth them as is declared in the last responsion so that herein doth not consist Peters authoritye aboue others but it doth cōsist in the iurisdiction aboue all other So that thoughe in some thinges all the apostels had equall power and dignitie geuen vnto thyem by Christe yet bycause they shoulde all preache one thynge Christe woulde one that is to say Peter to be the begynner the chiefe and heade of al bycause the vnytie of the church should depende vpon the vnitie of Peters authoritie As concerning thoffice of apostelship or edifyinge in fayth so they were equal but in gouernement and power Peter heade of all the rest And where you saye there is one office of all bishops wherof c. S. Ciprians wordes be these Ecclesia vna est c. episcopatus vnus est cuius a singulis in solidū pars tenetur id est The church is one the bishopriche is one wherof parte is holden of euerye one as in the whole This is the englishe of it and not as ye for youre purpose haue translated it wherby appeareth nothinge els but that al dependeth vpon the vnitye c. If this were not here S. Ciprians meaninge why then in other places did S. Ciprian say as we haue it in the .74 probacion and iu aunswering to the first obiection that vpō Peter Christe builded his church as vpon the first in dignity And that the see of Rome is the roote and mother of all churches And agayne y t al he resies and schismes do springe only of that men will not obey the head bishop I set Ciprian to answer to Ciprian Thinke not y t the holy Martir will be cōtrary to him selfe ¶ The .x. obiection The keyes were equallye geuen to al though he promised them but to Peter alone when Christe brethed vppon them and sayd receyue the holy ghost whose sinnes ye forgiue they be forgiuen c. ¶ The aunswere The keyes were geuen to the churche but in the person of Peter bicause of the vnitye And here first note that there is no mention made of the keyes but onlye Mathue the .xvi. where as only to Peter Christ promised them but his promisse and his saying is his doing So that although to forgeue sinnes which was geuen to all the apostels and .72 disciples also as is declared in the laste answere but one do perteyne to the keyes as a parte therof yet is there in the keyes a
partlye that the people mighte the rather geue eare to christes doctryne and ly●e more vertuously hauing him theyr heade shepeherde whome they loued and chose them selues What meruel was it then that themperours cōsent y e chiefe of the comen people was desired in that electiō what maketh this agaynste our holye father the popes authoritie Surely nothīg at al. Howbeit in processe of time manye inconueniences rising herby as tirāny sinister affectiō with diuerse other corruptions it was lafte to the election of the clergy agayne that euen by the consent of the holye emperours as ye maye rede in graciā dist 63. in many other places mo Wherfore Hildebrād which after was pope named Greg. y e .vii. answered vnto Otto Archb. of Colen coming frō Hen. the .iiii. emperour that neither emperoure nor any other but onely the clargye had any power or Authoritye in chosing the bishop of Rome that the permission or sufferāce y t emperours for certayne causes had had therin was iustlye for more lawful more reasonable causes taken awaye ¶ The .xxxi. obiection At Nicē counsel y e bishop of Rome was not present c. The aunswere What then his authoritye was there as it euer was and is in all councels lawfully gethered by his legates Theyr names at that time were Victor Vincentius and Osius bishops of Corduba Yea there it was declared confirmed not instiTute for y t was done by Christe that no generall councel shoulde be kept without the consent authority of the bishop of Rome So y ● although ye bring neuer so many coūcels wherein the bishop of Rome in his owne person was not present yet his authoritye and power was neuer absēt And here note further that in the .iiii. firste and chiefe general councels wherunto S. Gregory saide he gaue credite euen as to the .iiii. euāgelistes all the doinges were referred to be iudged and confirmed by the authoritie of the byshop of Rome At Nicen coūsel which was the first of y e iiii they did send this epistle folowing Vnto the most blessed Siluester bishop of the citye of Rome Osius bishop of Corduba Victor and Vincentius priestes of Rome with the rest of y e bishops .318 sende greting in our lorde What so euer we haue ordeyned in this counsell of Nicen we desire that it may be confirmed by the agrement of youre mouth And in the second councel which was the first at Constantinople al that blessed cōpanye there gethered obeid vnto Damasus Byshope of Rōe he geuing sentence against the heretikes Macedoniū Sabellium Eunomiū Likewise at the thirde chiefe general councel which was holden at Ephesus Nestorius was cōdemned by Celestine then Bushope of Rome being chiefe iudge And finallye at Chalcedon the last of the .iiii. all the councel there gethered did write as in moste submission vnto the most holy Bushope of Rome Leo Byshope of thuniuersal church c. ¶ The .xxxii. obiection Ireneus bishop of Lyons did resiste Victor bishop of Rome euē sone after y e apostels time concerning y e feast of Easter And Anicetꝰ bishop of Rome euen immediatly after thappostels gaue place to Policarpꝰ S. Iohns disciple ¶ The answere Anicetus then Pius after them Victor successours vnto peter made decrees cōcerning easter And y e East church first did resist y e ordre bycause they hadde kepte an other custome whiche was after the Iewes fashion takē of S. Iohn euāgelist Then Policarp bishop of Smirma in y e greke church yea being S. Iohns disclple also came to Rome to Anicetꝰ to aske councell of the matter And here marke y e al that they dyd was to edifye not to destroy and marke also that Policarpus acknowledged supirioritye when he came to holye Anicetus Byshope of Rome about the determinatiō of Easter notwithstanding he was S. Iohns disciple a Byshop yea that in the greke church Agayne after this when Victor that holy martir about the same mater would haue excominicate as heade of all the bushoppes of the greke church Ireneus exhorted him to the contrarye lest more trouble discorde and disquietnes thereby myght haue risen What maketh this obiectiō now against the popes authority Ireneus god knoweth acknowledged al to be subiecte to that highe authoritye as ye may rede in his worke li. 3. ca. 3. et 4. ¶ The .xxxiii. obiection Christ came in al pouertye not hauing as he saith where to hide his head his Disciples likewyse were called beinge pore fishers c. ¶ The answere Christ thereby did no more burthē the Clergie then he did y e laitye yea then he did kinges or Princes being ones subiectes to y e ghospel It was mete that he and his then shoulde come without all worldlye honour riches or seculer authoritie bothe for our example and also that infidels should haue no occasion to saye that he had institute his religion by violence by tirannye by power earthlye goodes as no doubt they wold haue done if he had commen as he might if it had pleased him with all worldlye power he euen as man beinge kīg of al kinges Neuertheles in this pouerte it ought not to haue continued no nor coulde so haue done seinge Christe would haue but one body mistical in al christēdome and one head thereof his successour to gouerne al the rest must it not then nedes folow y t euē in temporal substaunce bothe he and al other vnder him accordinge to their callinge ought to haue where with all to maintene defende their places would it not els sone come to passe that al the ministerye should come in contēpt or at the least waye smallye be regarded yea and would not all thereby shortlye come to confusion call to your remēbraūce I pray you how y ● Christ did send his Disciples twise forthe ones long before his passion and thother time after his resurrection At the first sending he bad them go al porely knowing that al necessaries then should be prouided for them to with drawe all men therby from Auarice and that nothing shuld be an hindraunce to the settinge fourthe of his Ghospel But at the seconde tyme of sendynge them fourth whyche was after his resurrection and ascension he byddynge them tarye tyl they had receiued tholy ghost they were charged to take all thinges necessarye yea and shortly after Saint Paule him selfe dyd appoint beinge euen led with the same spiryte of God that no mo pore ignoraunte fishers should be made Bishoppes or priestes but that they should be bothe doctours and men of good hospitalitye At the beginnynge all was rawe symple and rude yea and at that time when the Bushoppes were suche as hadde bene but poore ignoraunte fyshers then the verye Princes and rulers came and layde al their goodes at their fete If ye now wil nedes haue y e one ye must then nedes haue y e other How be it like as at the begynninge of the worlde the
of Peter did anye thynge that semed to be of authoritye aboue other but onely he euer in the presence of all as ye heare vsed authoritie aboue al. ¶ The .xiiii. obiection Paule saith that nether Peter nor other apostel gaue or added any thyng to him Wherby it appeareth that Paule gaue no place to Peter ¶ The aunswere Paule most reuerently gaue place to Peter as to the head and for that cause from a farre he came to Hierusalem to se Peter whyche was the chiefe of the Apostels And that Paule sayeth that Peter addeth nothinge to him nor other Appostels he saythe it leaste Goddes glorye should haue bene diminished and doth meane that he hadde christ to be his authour of his apostleship and sender forth that he was not sent by any any apostle but euen by Christ hym selfe ¶ The .xv. obiection Paule sayth he did resist Peter euen openlye in his face at Antioche ¶ The answere Clemēt Origens maister saith this Peter was not Peter the prince of thappostels but one named Peter a disciple one of the .72 And of this Eusebius speaketh affirming the same Howbeit if we graunt y t it was euen S. Peter the prince of y e apostels no inconuenience wil folowe For Paule was equal with Peter as concerning the defence of fayth quoad fidei de fensionem but not concerning the dignitye of prelacye non quoad dignitatem prelationis Agayne an other aunswere if the ruler y e superiour or heade do erre in any point of his faith or offēd other and cause thē therby to erre either by his saying or doinge openly slaūderously then the inferiour may charitably eyther secretelye if that be sufficient admonishe or els openlye reproue if suche occasion serue as did here Neuerthelesse S. Hierome Chrisostome and Theophilact affirme that S. Paule in rebukynge Sayncte Peter did but feane was not in earnest So y t like as s peter did feane before the Iews for the time so to winne them the soner in y t he did kepe theyr legals being amonge the Gentiles euen so s Paule whē the Iewes were gone seing y t many of the Gentils were offēded with Peters doing did feane an earnest checkinge agaynste Peter so to winne y e Gentilles and euen so nowe he writeth to the Galath so that on both partes there was a godly feaninge the one by Peter the soner so to winne the Iewes the other by Paule so likewise to winne the Heathens Yea and Paule vsed this ofte as in circumciding Timothe in shauing his head in Chēchreis as perfourming his vow and in like maner actes the .20 c. And yet beside this remember that S. Ciprian sayeth as ye hearde euen now that Peter whom christ made head of all and vpon whom Christ buylded his churche when Paule did contende with him aboute circumcision dyd not reuenge or boast him selfe that he was the prince or chiefe of all as he iustly might haue sayd but stil he humbled him selfe c. ¶ The .xvi. obiection Paule sayth that authority was geuen ouer the Heathen vnto him lyke as vnto Peter ouer the Iewes ¶ The answere Christe him selfe sayde he was sente to the Iewes and not to the Heathens and bade the Apostels go preache to the Iewes and not to the Heathēs for that first he was sent chiefelye to the Iewes as to his people yea and therfore S. Peter durste not medle w t the Heathen till he had his vision actes the .x. whiche was shewed to him as heade and neyther to Paule Iohn nor other and therefore chiefelye and principallye Peter was sente to the Iewes as Paule was amonges the Heathens but yet Christe whiche sayd he had other shepe beside theym bade Peter fede all his shepe making him chiefe ouer all Also Paule preached firste amonges y e Iewes as it is in thactes we shuld haue preched to you c. but bicause he dyd moste good profyte amonge the Heathē and the Iewes refused for y e moste parte his doctrine therfore he gloried in the Heathen and not in the Iewes callinge him selfe theyr apostle But Peter equally profited in both being head of all but bicause he was firste sēt to the Iewes Paule calleth him their apostle chiefely not w tstāding after he won y e people at ponthum Galatiam Capadociā Asiam et Bithiniam c. ¶ The .xvii. obiection Peter knewe no commission he had ouer the Heathen as appeareth Actes the .x. till he had the vision The aunswere It is sufficiently ▪ answered vnto in the last respōsiō Howebeit this I say further that he knew his high commission to be ouer al the flocke of christ Howbeit as cōcerninge y e time whē y e Gētils should be called receyued into the shepecote that Peter knew not before he had the vision to receiue them But what is y t against y e preeminēce surelye nothinge at al. ¶ The .xviii. obiection Hierusalem shoulde rather be thought to be the heade see then Rome if any such should be where Christe worked our saluacion where by Christ by his apostles also the ghospell first was preached as the prophet before had said y e law shal come forth of Sion the word of our lord forth of Hierusalē Agayn Antioche shuld be preferred to Rome also bicause Peter was first there .vii yeres before he came to rome yea chiefelye for y t the name of christians there first began ¶ The answere First note that the bishoppe taketh not his dignitye of the place but the place of y e bishop not peter of Rome but Rome of Peter Peter was prince of all before he was bishoppe in Rome Now as for Hierusalē which was vtterli to be destroied ▪ by gods reuēgemēt for christes deth their impenitēt hartes not one stone to be left vp on an other god woulde not y ● head apostle to be there setled Where also fleshly y e iewes stil loke for a carnal kingdome that yet Messias is there to come in whyche erroure the sonnes of zebedy ones were also the disciples with whome christe talked goinge towarde Emaus And for this it was ordeyned by the holy ghoste in the primatiue churche amonges the apostles that Hierusalem was not onely none of the principall and metropolitane sees but was subiect vnto the see of Caesaria as appeareth in Nicen counsel Nowe as for Antioche rather Hierusalem should haue bene head bicause the worde was firste preached there then Antioche where through Paules diligence onlye the name of christians began Howbeit the answer is y t Peter the head bishop made y e head see so y t if he had cōtinued there still and there died heade bishop then had Antioche bene the head see for euer But that was not gods will Neuerthelesse bicause Peter was ones there bishoppe and preached longe amonges them and conuerted them to the faythe and after .vii.
yeares ordeyned Euodium there after whom folowed Ignatius euen then in the primatiue church by the apostels it was ordeyned for y e third chiefe see and Alexandria for the second bicause Peter appoynted his dearely beloued disciple Marke there to be Bishoppe and yet bothe it and Alexandria subiectes to Rome bicause both they there receyued theyr prerogatiues dignities euen of Peter y e head bishop which had his see by y e holye ghoste there appointed saieth Chrisost as was coūted the chefe city of al y ● world And where as he w t his death cōfirmed the prerogatiue dignity thereof appointinge also before his Martirdome y t S. Clement shuld succede him in that highe place to receyue the keyes sayth S. Clement him selfe writinge to S. Iames which Peter then said he had before receiued of christ This vndoubtedlye is the catholike fayth So that no scriptures wrasted ought to moue a christen mā frō this the faithe of y e church receyued before al scriptures were writtē This is y t Paule sayth if any mā preach any other ghospel to you thē y t which you haue receiued cursed be he Paule neyther sayde nor did meane if any man preche any thing but y t which Mathue Marke Luke or Iohn haue writtē as for some of thē then had not written but he did meane if anye preache agaynst thappostolicall tradicions thoughe they were neuer writen cursed be he Al the consente of the apostels scholers disciples successours to this day thꝭ haue taught and shall we now bring al into questiō Yea shal we condemne all and inuent newe of oure owne as men haue done in this realme of late yeares most wretchedly Sayncte Austen sayth that the succcession of Bishoppes in Peters see is one of the .4 causes y t kept him in the catholike fayth Ireneus agreeth with the same S. Cipriā affirmeth that all heresies springe forth of the denial and refusinge the see of Rome to be head Anacletus a holye Martir disciple to S. Peter and successour to him in that see sayth that y e see of Rome had his preeminence and power aboue all not geuē by the Appostels but euen by Christe hym selfe This doctrine euer hathe bene taught of all the writers from the beginninge with one consente bothe of the Latines and the Greciās Sayncte Clemente Anacletus Ignatiꝰ Policarpus Dionisius Papias with many other which all were in thapostels time after them Ireneus Tertulian Origen Ciprian Athanasius Eusebius Ambr. Hierō Aug. Chriso with thousandes since them whyche haue euer kept y e same line and succession receiuinge thys doctrine as it were by hand one of another Whether shal we folowe al these holye learned fathers being saintes in heauen or els geue eare to a rablemēt of rascal herytikes verye limmes of the deuel ¶ The .xix. obiection Christ before Pylate refused an earthlye kingdome saying his kingdome was not of this worlde yea whē they would haue made him a kinge he fled awaye ¶ The answere This maketh nothinge against the authority of S. Peter or his successours y t Popes holines Christe came not to reigne in a tēporal kingdome No true christen man euer beleued or taught the contrarye He came not to depriue kinges of their worldly dignities and honours He came to establish a new kingdome whych is spiritual for the saluation of the soule and here of Saint Iohn speaketh saing thou hast redemed vs with thy bloud made vs a kingdome to oure lorde and we shall reigne vpon the earth This kingdome Christ did ordeine and made Peter head here of his successours for euer so that euery worldly Kinge or Prince if he wil be in this kingedome muste be subiecte to the head of the same or els shall he neuer come to the kingdome of heauen which is thonly cause of comming in to this spiritual kingdome here As for infidels and heathen Princes whyche wyl neither thone nor thother I speke not of Christe although he were Prince of y e kinges of y e earth as S. Iohn saith and as mā not onlye as God Kinge of Kinges and Lorde of Lordes his vesture wherin that was written signifyed the humanitye that couered the godhed yet when they woulde haue made him a Kyng he fled and no meruel for he came not therfore His onlye comminge was to redeme mā with his bloud beynge obediente to his father euen vnto the vilest death so that he came not to beare here in the world an earthlye scepter for that he sayde to a certaine yonge man requiringe right at his handes againste y e iniuries of his brother O thou man who appointed me to be iudge or deuider betwene you and your brother as though he had sayd that is not y e cause of my comminge at the leaste waye principallye to meddel with suche ciuile matters but it is to suffer death for mans raunsome Howe be it now to note a worde or .ii. although Christe in his owne person came not to take in hand anye earthly kingdō being notw tstāding as mā king of al kinges yet he would his disciples that is to say al that trulye professe him be he of the laitie or clergy Kinge Byshop or other for al suche be Christes Disciples iustlye and godlye to vse and exercise all rules and offices here in the world both kinges Byshoppes Dukes Lordes Ladyes both men and womē riche or pore high or lowe ¶ The .xx. obiection Christe to declare how he and his should bee subiectes bade geue to Cesar that which was Cesars and to God that whyche was Goddes c. ¶ The answere By these wordes of Christe there is no derogation against his chief minister here in earth no nor anye power geuē to the laytye here by to be ouer the cleregye For here the wicked Pharises came craftely being determined whether he hadde sayde yea or naye to haue had a great vauntage against him ether as a traitour or els as a dissembler demaunded not whether they were bounde to paye tribute or whether he could iustlie receiue it but whether they might geue tribute to Cesar or no he being a straūge prince which thīg thei thought to be against the fredō of their lawe Nowe Christe whyche saw al thinges perceuing their deceytfull hertes sayd neither it was lawefull nor not lawful but only bad geue to euery one that whych was his right to haue And this is euery christen mans dutie to do But yet further here in to speake ī case Christe then had geuen commaundemēt to the Iewes as his people to haue payde tribute to Cesar or to other forē Princes his commaundemēt had bene no more againste the Clergie then againste anye other of the laytye be he King or Emperour if he be a member of Christes church and a shepe of his flocke ¶ The .xxi. obiection Christ bad go paye tribute whyche should seme to make
S. Ciprian nameth y e church of Rōe peters see and calleth it the principal churche whereoute the vnitye doth springe Li. i. epist epis iii. ante calcem S. Amb. also bearethe testimonye hereof saying we think it was not without a cause that tholy apostels Peter Paule did suffer martridome ī one day in one place vnder one tirād In one day y t thei might come together vnto christ at one time one place y t Rome should lacke neither of thē vnder one persecutor y ● either might fele like crudeliti The day was appointed them for their merit the place for their glory the persecutour for their vertue What place did they suffer in In the citye of Rhome whiche was the chiefe and head cytye of all the nacions So that there shoulde reste the heade of all holinesse where before was the head of al supersticion there the princes of y e churches shoulde remayne where before y e princes of y e Gētils did dwel Haec amb in cō in natali petri et pauli cō 67 Agayn S. Ambr. saith Peter went forth in the night sawe Christ mete him goinge into y e citye to whō Peter saide lorde whither goest y u christ aunswered I go to Rome there to be crucified againe And thē Peter knew y t christes aūswer did perteine to his crucifyinge or death Haec ambr li. 5. epistolarū in or̄one cō auxentiū And this sam ī effect w t much more hath Egesippꝰ li. ● excid hiera cap. 2 an olde writer euē sone after y e apostels time ▪ yea he being a Greciā which would haue ben loth to haue testified any thing to the glory of Rome if the verye trueth had not compelled him y ● to haue done s Hierome likewise in catalogo illust viro rum in titulo pe● intitulo pauli in titulo philonis saieth Peter prīce of the apostles after that he had bene byshop in Antioch c. came to Rome the seconde yere of Claudiꝰ the emperour and kept y e see there .xxv. yeres euen vnto the last yeare of Nero vnder whom he beyng crucified did suffer mertirdom Orosius thistoriographer affirmeth y e like li. 7. ca. 4. v. And so doth Euse li. ii ca. xiiii etiā in li. croni And holy Bede our coūtremā in his cronacle testifieth y e same of s Peter s Hie againe saith in the place recited Philo fel into gret acquaītāce loue with Peter in the city of Rome c. Ireneus moreouer scholer to s Iohns disc Pol. li. 3. ca. 1. 3. sheweth that peter was byshop ī rome so do chriso hꝭ abbreuiator the ophilat in cōmentariis epistolae poster ad Timo. Yea here now final lie to cōclude s Peter him selfe in his first epistle .v. cha speaking vnder y e name of Babilō for so he calleth ther rome bicause of superstition idolatry then vsed amongest y e infidels sheweth y t he wrot y t his epistle from rome as al authors doe declare whiche do interprete that epistle of Peter and so do Tertu li. con Iudeos pag. 128. Sainte Hierome in catalogo virorū illustr titulo Marci papias disciple to S. Iohn euāg and bishop of Hierusalē Eusebius li. 2. ec his ca. 15. with many mo I nede not here to bring in certayne germayn writers which expoūding the fornamed place of Peter affirme him there to speake of Rhome vnder the name of Babilon where not without great blasphemy ofte they rayle agaynste all godlinesse and yet they be not ashamed to say and write yea and putte forth in printe thousand volumes wherein they denye y t Peter euer was at Rhome ¶ The .xlv. obiection Christ bade peter fede hꝭ flock saying Pasce but this word pasce be tokeneth seruice not preeminence It is I say a word of seruice not preeminence The answere Christe in y t place vsed .ii. wordes twise he saith 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 whiche is pasce fede but after he addeth 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 which is both rege et pasce rule or gouerne and fede And so in the Ps god biddeth rule them w t an irne rod and in y e Actes Paule willeth them to take hede to them selues and ●o al the flocke amōge whome y e holy ghost had made them bishops to rule 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 the church of god Also in Peters epistle rule ye the churche of Christe though it be fede in the damnable translacions 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Therfore now to cōclude seinge euerye man knoweth that to rule or gouerne is thoffice of superiours heades and rulers we maye well and truelye aunswere that to Peter and to all his successors was geuen not only commaūdement to fede but also to rule his flocke And for this saith Paule which was but an inferiour to Peter will ye that I shal come to you with the rod of correctiō Rebuke sayth he to Timothe and checke in season out of season But of this ye haue more in y e .2 probation ¶ The .xlvi. obiection Ezechias that good kinge as hauing hygh authoritye ouer all geuen vnto him euē by god sayde herken o ye Leuites and priestes be ye halowed make ye pure and cleane the house of our lord put away al wickednes and all vncleanes from the holy place c. ¶ The answere There were in Iuda by goddes permission manye wicked kinges whych did most filthyly pollute gods howse with Idolatrye and but fewe good whych wyth all theyr myghte did seke goddes honour Among whych fewe kyng Ezechias was one of the chyefe But if ye marke the text wel ye shall not fynde that he dyd vsurpe or take vppon him the priestes offyce but wyth his temporall sworde did defende it in all godlye ordre c. The .xlvii. obiection Mokst cōmōly at al times causes of heresies haue ben debated before Emperours kinges princes both in this Realme also in other places of christēdome As appeareth euidentlye by manye chronicles ¶ The aunswere Good Kinges and Princes haue ofte made lawes and ordeined sharpe statutes to preserue the churches ryght therwith as mainteners and defendours thereof but not as chiefe authours or heades of the churche ¶ The .xlviii. obiection Kinges haue graūted many priueleges preeminences and immunities to the clergi wher by appereth plainlye the Kinges authoritye to be aboue theirs c. ¶ The answere Thereby appereth plainlye that all suche godlye Princes were euer redye with all their power to defende Christ his churche and with al their indeuore to set vp his glorye ¶ The .xlix. obiection In tholde testamente the priestes were in subiection to the high Princes And firste to speake of Aaron he euer toke Moises for hꝭ souereigne lord The aunswere Moyses was a figure of Christe as Aarō was a figure of Peter his vicare yea and bothe Moyses Aaron were priestes as y e
herte he declared still in his owne person al subiection The .lvii. obiection In scriptures ther is no menciō made of Peters supremaci The answere Not as heretikes wraste the scriptures but there is mention ofte many times in scripture of Peters supremacye as christē people take y e scriptures As it is both in y e probaciōs also in sundrye responsions in this boke ¶ The .lviii. obiection In diuerse consideracions a man may be head and chiefe yet ī other relatiōs or respectes inferiour subiect y e chiefe tayler y e chiefe paynter the chiefe phisicion or surgē here in London within y e parishes wher eueri of them doth dwel are but takē as neyghbourlike may chaūce as much inferiours w tout a●●i such preeminēce which they haue amōg their owne cōpanies in their owne halles so Peter chiefe first in placing chiefe in cōstācye stedfastnes of minde chiefe in feruētnes of deuociō chiefe in preaching godlines but not chiefe or first in preeminēce here in y e world to be aboue princes c. ¶ The answere Peter in y t respect or cōsideraciō y t he is christes vicar chief heade vndernethe him here in earth so is he heade ouer all y e be of the same occupatiō y t he is of bicause the similitude depēdeth sōwhat vpō craftes or occupatiōs that is to say of christes religiō He is chefe ouer al y ● professe christ whether he be tayler paynter phisiciō or surgen yea whether he be king or emperor not y ● Peter doth chalenge any seperiortye ouer an emperor or kīg bicause he is emperor or kīg or ouer a phisiciō or paynter bicause he is phisicion or paynter but in respect in consideracion al they be christē mē so are they al vnder Peter like as y e head phisician the head tayler the head paynter head surgē as it is ī thobiectiō will euer require and that by right all that be of the same crafte science or occupation to be vnder thē that w tout any respect or cōsideraciō to riches or pouerty to wysedome or ignorance ¶ The .lix. obiectiō Oh howe many scriptures haue bene w tin these .xxii. yeares brought cited against the popes authority The answer Euer whē ye heare any scripture alleged sayth Origē vpō Mathue cōtrary to y t which y e vniuersal church obserueth beleue thē not Geue no credit to thē for they would but deceiue you w t false allegatiōs or false applicatiōs of scriptures cōtrary to y e meaning of tholy gost Thinke y t scrypture is no scripture if the true intente meaning be not there yea if therin ye folow not y e authority of the churche For howe shall we know I pray you that Moyses wrote al y t is in hꝭ .v. bokes seing we neuer saw his hande writing Yea though we had sene it howe could we know it to be his hāde he being dead so lōg ago or if we knew al this how were we sure y t all that he wrote was true y t god spake vnto him And y e same is likewise to be demaunded of al the prophetes writinges If ye say christ bare testimony of Moyses of y e law of y t prophetes then I aske further howe ye know by christes testimonye y t these which we rede be Moyses or the prophetes writinges although we graūt y ● by christꝭ testimony Moy. y e ꝓph wer true faithful Yea yet further how know ye y t christ bare testimonye of Moyses y e prophetes whō ye neuer heard preche nor teache If ye say by y e euāgelistes thē I turne agayne aske how ye know these to be y e ghospels of Mathue Marke or Luke seing ye neuer sawe theyr hādes writing And if ye had sene thē yet ye knewe thē not but suppose ye know them how do ye wote y t all is true y t thei wrote seing eueri mā may be deceyued yea speciallye Marke Luke whiche wrote but of here say dyd neuer see christ If ye say they wrote being taught by tholy gost then y e same doubt cometh agayne howe ye knowe tholy ghoste taught thē or how know ye y t these be their writinges w tout corruptiō or mixture Cā ye by any menes saue or defēd thautority of y e scripture but onlye by thauthority of y e ecclesiastical tradiciōs surely by none other Ye know which be the canonical scriptures y e true sēse therof only by y e testimonye of y e church vnderstād receiued by successiō of the fathers frō y e beginnīg til this our time Dionise Clemēt Policarpe Ignatiꝰ Tertuliā Origē Ciprian Athana Basil Hilari Chriso Ambrose Hierome Austine w t al holy mē euer since had neuer other rule to know y e truth of scripture by but onely y t comē professiō cōsēt of al the fathers euer in their time by successiō linking together their testimonies for y e ful knowledge of y e truth This is was euer shalbe y e very piller foūdaciō wherunto we must nedes lein So y t we haue receiued y e truth of y e ghospel by y e ecclesiasticall tradiciō rather thē by writing yea y e certitude of our religiō sure fayth hath not depēded frō y e begining vpō y e authority of y e gospels writē but rather cōtrarywise y e authoriti of y e gospel writtē hath depēded vpon the certitude of our religiō c. Paule whē he sayd if an angel frō heuē preche any other ghospel thē thꝭ cursed be he did not meane of any ghospel writen which thē had no authority ī y e church though sone after y e gospels writē for certē causes receued their authority of y e church And here is now to be noted y t we rede in Eusebius how that Serapion that learned holy bishop of Antioche sayd we receyue Peter other of thappostels euen as christ but we refuse such thinges as be falsely writen vnder their names bicause we haue no such tradiciō of the church c. This was y e rule then to know thinges by when they euer receiued al as it were by hād one of an other Thē they perceiued y t thauthority of y e ecclesiastical tradicyō extēded much further then the authority of y e ghospel writen y t in al doubtful cases it must geue sētēce iudgemēt whych is truth which is falsily So y t here nowe to cōclude though heretikes wrast neuer so mani textes of scripture agaynst the popes authority it maketh no force nor proueth any thing agaynste our purpose And yet moreouer hereby appeareth y ● though there were no scripture at al to proue the popes authority by as there be very mani yet y t made nothing contrarye herevnto seing that by successession it hath bene stil receiued euē frō Peters time