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different_a from_o the_o nature_n of_o hypocrisy_n which_o forbid_v not_o all_o judge_a but_o only_o evil_a and_o rash_a judge_v of_o other_o mâ—ns_n action_n or_o intention_n thereby_o to_o seem_v better_a &_o more_o iâ—st_a than_o they_o for_o if_o two_o for_o example_n sake_n shall_v see_v m._n barlow_n to_o sup_v large_o with_o flesh_n and_o other_o good_a meat_n upon_o a_o vigil_n or_o fasting-day_n and_o the_o one_o shall_v judge_v it_o in_o the_o worst_a part_n say_v that_o he_o do_v it_o for_o the_o love_n of_o hâ—s_n belly_n and_o sensuality_n the_o other_o shall_v interpret_v the_o same_o spiritual_o as_o do_v for_o glorify_v god_n in_o his_o creature_n by_o his_o thanksgiving_a for_o the_o same_o for_o liberty_n also_o of_o the_o gospel_n and_o for_o to_o make_v he_o the_o more_o strong_a &_o able_a to_o speak_v &_o preach_v his_o service_n and_o sermon_n the_o next_o day_n i_o doubt_v noâ—_n but_o that_o this_o second_o judgement_n will_v not_o be_v censure_v by_o he_o for_o hypocritical_a and_o this_o be_v ouâ—_n very_a case_n with_o those_o that_o take_v the_o oath_n for_o that_o i_o hear_v what_o they_o have_v do_v and_o that_o they_o be_v catholic_n do_v interpret_v their_o meaning_n to_o the_o best_a sense_n and_o be_v not_o this_o rather_o charity_n than_o hypocrisy_n but_o let_v we_o see_v a_o little_a if_o you_o please_v how_o m._n barlow_n can_v defend_v this_o general_a proposition_n of_o he_o that_o it_o be_v a_o inseparable_a mâ—rke_n of_o a_o hypocrite_n to_o judge_v of_o other_o man_n conscience_n hypocrite_n you_o have_v hear_v before_o how_o wise_o he_o defend_v a_o certain_a definition_n which_o he_o give_v of_o a_o oath_n now_o you_o shall_v see_v he_o as_o wise_o &_o learned_o defend_v a_o inseparable_a propriety_n or_o mark_n of_o a_o hypocrite_n and_o first_o you_o see_v that_o here_o be_v no_o distinction_n or_o limitation_n at_o all_o whether_o he_o judge_n well_o or_o ill_o with_o cause_n or_o without_o cause_n rash_o or_o mature_o how_o then_o if_o we_o shall_v hear_v a_o man_n or_o woman_n speak_v ordinary_o lewd_a word_n can_v no_o judgement_n be_v make_v of_o the_o speaker_n conscience_n without_o hypocrisy_n if_o a_o man_n shall_v see_v another_o frequent_a bad_a house_n or_o exercise_v wicked_a action_n may_v no_o man_n judge_v he_o to_o have_v a_o ill_a conscience_n from_o whence_o these_o thing_n do_v proceed_v but_o he_o must_v be_v â—n_v hypocrite_n moreover_o if_o this_o be_v a_o inseparable_a mark_n or_o propriety_n as_o he_o say_v then_o according_a to_o aristotle_n &_o porphyriâ—â—_n it_o must_v convenire_fw-la omni_fw-la soli_fw-la &_o semper_fw-la agree_v to_o all_o only_o and_o ever_o for_o if_o it_o do_v not_o agree_v to_o all_o and_o ever_o it_o be_v not_o inseparable_a and_o if_o it_o agree_v to_o other_o beside_o hypocrite_n it_o be_v not_o always_o the_o mark_n of_o a_o hypocrite_n and_o therefore_o albeit_o that_o i_o have_v judge_v their_o conscience_n as_o m._n barlow_n impose_v upon_o i_o he_o can_v not_o by_o good_a consequence_n have_v infer_v that_o i_o be_v a_o hypocrite_n but_o this_o be_v ridiculous_a that_o all_o hypocrite_n and_o only_a hypocrite_n judge_v of_o man_n conscience_n for_o first_o the_o hypocrite_n that_o sound_v a_o trumpet_n before_o his_o alm_n who_o conscience_n do_v he_o judge_v the_o other_o also_o that_o kneel_v and_o pray_v in_o the_o corner_n of_o street_n who_o conscience_n do_v he_o judge_v or_o condemn_v those_o also_o that_o come_v to_o tempt_v christ_n about_o the_o woman_n take_v in_o adultery_n and_o about_o tribute_n to_o be_v pay_v to_o cesar_n i_o read_v not_o who_o conscience_n they_o judge_v and_o therefore_o will_v be_v loath_a to_o do_v they_o injury_n except_o m._n â—arlow_n can_v bring_v any_o just_a accusation_n against_o they_o and_o yet_o be_v they_o call_v hypocrite_n by_o our_o saviour_n whereby_o iâ—_n infer_v that_o all_o hypocrisy_n be_v not_o subject_a to_o
this_o â—axatio_fw-la â—f_n judge_v conscience_n and_o consequent_o this_o be_v no_o inseparable_a mark_n that_o agree_v to_o all_o in_o like_a manner_n also_o it_o agrâ—â—â—â—_n not_o soli_fw-la that_o be_v only_o to_o the_o sin_n of_o hypocrisy_n to_o iudgeâ—_n of_o other_o man_n conscience_n for_o pride_n may_v do_v it_o anger_n may_v do_v it_o temerity_n may_v do_v it_o revenge_n may_v do_v it_o &_o this_o without_o hypocrisy_n or_o justify_n of_o himself_o for_o if_o to_o a_o know_a usâ—rer_n for_o example_n you_o shall_v object_v or_o exprobrate_v the_o fin_n of_o usury_n &_o he_o answer_v you_o again_o that_o he_o suspect_v yoâ—â—_n conscience_n of_o like_a sin_n here_o he_o judge_v of_o your_o conscience_n perhaps_o false_o and_o yet_o not_o by_o hypocrisy_n for_o he_o justifi_v not_o himself_o ergo_fw-la this_o be_v not_o proprium_fw-la quarto_fw-la modo_fw-la any_o inseparable_a mark_n or_o propriety_n of_o hypocrisy_n to_o judge_v of_o other_o man_n conscience_n last_o let_v we_o consider_v if_o you_o please_v the_o definition_n of_o hypocrisy_n which_o shall_v indeed_o have_v be_v the_o first_o iâ—_n consideration_n for_o try_v out_o of_o the_o true_a nature_n of_o this_o mark_n &_o propriety_n for_o so_o much_o as_o according_a to_o aristotle_n doctrine_n and_o the_o thing_n in_o itself_o be_v evident_a by_o philosophy_n prâ—priâ—_n passiones_fw-la flaunt_n ab_fw-la essentijs_fw-la rerum_fw-la propriety_n do_v flow_v from_o the_o essence_n of_o thing_n and_o therefore_o they_o be_v best_a understand_v &_o know_v by_o reâ—erence_n to_o the_o say_a nature_n and_o essence_n contain_v as_o aristotle_n say_v in_o their_o definition_n the_o definition_n they_o of_o hypocrisy_n be_v medio_fw-la according_a to_o s._n isidorus_n in_o his_o etimology_n simulatio_fw-la alienae_n personae_fw-la when_o a_o man_n pretend_v to_o be_v another_o maâ—_n and_o better_a than_o he_o be_v and_o according_a to_o s._n augustine_n prinâ—iâ—iâ—m_fw-la qui_fw-la se_fw-la 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have_v be_v show_v &_o consequent_o not_o inseparable_a that_o be_v no_o proper_a or_o inseparable_a propriety_n at_o all_o no_o more_o than_o it_o be_v to_o â—ay_n that_o it_o be_v a_o inseparable_a propriety_n to_o horse_n to_o be_v white_a for_o that_o some_o few_o be_v find_v white_a scholar_n and_o so_o we_o see_v m._n barlow_n when_o he_o come_v to_o speak_v of_o any_o matter_n of_o substance_n and_o learning_n show_v himselve_v a_o very_a feeble_a man_n scarce_o to_o understand_v the_o very_a term_n and_o first_o principle_n of_o the_o same_o but_o let_v we_o pass_v on_o now_o to_o another_o more_o grievous_a calumniation_n against_o i_o he_o be_v not_o content_a to_o make_v the_o former_a outcry_n against_o i_o for_o hypocrisy_n and_o judge_a man_n conscience_n but_o add_v also_o another_o assault_n â—saying_v that_o i_o do_v teach_v equivocation_n to_o be_v use_v in_o thiâ—_n oath_n which_o be_v so_o far_o from_o all_o truth_n as_o i_o do_v teach_v the_o plain_a contrary_n as_o now_o have_v appear_v by_o my_o own_o word_n before_o allege_v for_o i_o say_v there_o of_o they_o that_o take_v the_o oath_n 18._o i_o can_v in_o charity_n but_o assure_v 〈◊〉_d self_n that_o they_o be_v catholic_n take_v the_o say_a oath_n for_o so_o much_o as_o concern_v the_o pope_n authority_n in_o deal_v with_o temporal_a prince_n in_o sâ—me_n such_o lawful_a sense_n and_o interpretation_n as_o be_v by_o they_o express_v and_o accept_v by_o the_o magistrate_n may_v stand_v with_o the_o integrity_n and_o sincerity_n of_o true_a christian_a doctrine_n and_o faith_n to_o wit_n that_o the_o pope_n have_v â—ot_n authority_n without_o just_a cause_n nor_o direct_o but_o indirect_o only_a in_o â—â—dine_n ad_fw-la spiritualia_fw-la so_o i_o write_v then_o and_o the_o clear_a addition_n that_o these_o exception_n and_o clause_n must_v be_v express_v by_o the_o swearer_n and_o accept_v by_o the_o magistrate_n do_v clear_o exclude_v equivocation_n barlow_n which_o consist_v of_o mental_a reservation_n not_o express_v nor_o understand_v or_o accept_v of_o he_o to_o who_o it_o be_v use_v and_o moreover_o within_o very_a few_o line_n after_o continue_v my_o speech_n and_o desire_v his_o majesty_n to_o accept_v of_o these_o clause_n of_o moderation_n &_o catholic_a exposition_n i_o do_v yield_v this_o reason_n that_o catholics_n doâ—_n not_o hold_v it_o lawful_a in_o a_o matter_n so_o neâ—rely_o concern_v the_o conâ—ession_n of_o their_o say_v to_o equivocate_v or_o swear_v in_o any_o other_o sense_n then_o from_o his_o majesty_n be_v propose_v can_v any_o thing_n be_v speak_v more_o plain_o with_o what_o face_n then_o can_v m._n barlow_n accuse_v i_o of_o the_o quite_o contrary_a and_o so_o revile_v against_o i_o for_o the_o same_o whereof_o some_o shall_v be_v here_o set_v down_o 39_o let_v the_o reader_n behold_v say_v he_o a_o malicious_a trick_n of_o a_o notable_a equivocaâ—â—uâ—_n that_o can_v be_v content_v to_o be_v himself_o alone_o the_o devil_n 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