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B20551 A discourse concerning excommunication. By THomas Comber DD. Precentor of York. Comber, Thomas, 1645-1699. 1684 (1684) Wing C5459 99,055 127

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well_o as_o priest_n and_o make_v prince_n the_o supreme_a never_o intend_v to_o give_v his_o minister_n any_o power_n to_o disturb_v the_o public_a peace_n or_o oppose_v the_o good_a government_n of_o the_o world_n and_o if_o prince_n have_v not_o power_n to_o hinder_v such_o unjust_a sentence_n they_o can_v not_o govern_v their_o kingdom_n nor_o do_v their_o duty_n and_o when_o the_o pope_n and_o his_o clergy_n strive_v with_o king_n for_o the_o supremacy_n it_o be_v high_a time_n for_o they_o to_o check_v these_o dangerous_a attempt_n or_o else_o they_o will_v not_o have_v sit_v any_o long_o in_o their_o throne_n than_o the_o pope_n please_v but_o all_o this_o be_v now_o out_o of_o door_n and_o therefore_o the_o objection_n signify_v nothing_o as_o to_o our_o protestant_a bishop_n exercise_v this_o authority_n because_o they_o yield_v the_o king_n the_o supremacy_n in_o all_o cause_n as_o the_o primitive_a bishop_n do_v and_o even_o in_o popish_a time_n though_o the_o king_n do_v 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sentence_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 2_o cor._n two_o 6._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d vocantur_fw-la poenae_fw-la canonicae_fw-la in_o act._n consiliorum_fw-la &_o ap_fw-mi chrysost_n de_fw-fr sacerd._n grot._n in_o the_o presence_n of_o the_o whole_a congregation_n have_v bring_v he_o to_o repentance_n be_v a_o sufficient_a penalty_n and_o now_o he_o require_v they_o to_o forgive_v he_o and_o grant_v he_o absolution_n ver_fw-la 7._o expect_v they_o shall_v obey_v he_o in_o all_o his_o order_n as_o well_o the_o former_a for_o censure_v as_o these_o for_o absolve_v ver_fw-la 9_o first_o because_o in_o all_o his_o order_n he_o have_v respect_n unto_o their_o good_a and_o second_o because_o he_o command_v they_o by_o the_o authority_n and_o as_o the_o ambassador_n of_o christ_n who_o in_o all_o these_o judicial_a act_n of_o excommunicate_v and_o absolve_v do_v represent_v the_o person_n of_o christ_n himself_o theoph._n himself_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d ver_fw-la 10._o non_fw-fr in_o mea_fw-la persona_fw-la sed_fw-la christi_fw-la qui_fw-la dixit_fw-la quaecunque_fw-la solveritis_fw-la in_o terra_fw-la erant_fw-la soluta_fw-la in_o coelo_fw-la hieron_n ut_fw-la factum_fw-la apostoli_fw-la factum_fw-la sit_fw-la christi_fw-la ambros_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d theoph._n who_o have_v give_v this_o commission_n to_o his_o apostle_n that_o whatsoever_o they_o shall_v bind_v on_o earth_n shall_v be_v bind_v in_o heaven_n so_o the_o father_n expound_v this_o phrase_n in_o the_o person_n of_o christ_n and_o we_o may_v observe_v that_o as_o s._n paul_n do_v cast_v he_o out_o of_o the_o church_n not_o by_o their_o common_a suffrage_n as_o s._n ambrose_n speak_v but_o with_o the_o power_n of_o our_o lord_n jesus_n christ_n that_o be_v by_o his_o authority_n and_o sentence_n who_o ambassador_n on_o earth_n the_o apostle_n be_v 358._o be_v ambros_n comment_fw-fr in_o 1_o cor._n v._o p._n 358._o so_o he_o restore_v he_o again_o upon_o his_o repentance_n not_o 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that_o place_n if_o we_o or_o a_o angel_n from_o heaven_n preach_v any_o other_o gospel_n unto_o you_o than_o that_o which_o we_o have_v preach_v unto_o you_o let_v he_o be_v anathema_n or_o accurse_a galat._n i_o 8._o and_o to_o show_v this_o be_v no_o rash_a but_o a_o deliberate_a judicial_a act_n he_o repeat_v it_o for_o 9_o and_o here_o it_o will_v be_v seasonable_a to_o inquire_v into_o the_o sense_n of_o this_o word_n anathema_n so_o often_o use_v concern_v excommunication_n aug._n excommunication_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d pag._n 87._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d theoph●e_a chrysost_n abominabilis_fw-la sit_fw-la hieron_n condemnatus_fw-la devotus_fw-la &_o detestabilis_fw-la aug._n the_o ancient_n explain_v it_o accurse_v excommunicate_v separate_v alienate_v abominable_a detestable_a and_o devote_v all_o which_o respect_v person_n excommunicate_v and_o the_o lxx_o do_v general_o thus_o translate_v the_o hebrew_n cherem_n alibi_fw-la cherem_n josh_n seven_o 1._o deut._n seven_o 26._o &_o alibi_fw-la the_o name_n of_o one_o species_n of_o excommunication_n among_o the_o jew_n it_o be_v true_a it_o sometime_o signify_v a_o thing_n dedicate_v to_o god_n the_o reason_n of_o which_o different_a sense_n s._n chrysostom_n thus_o give_v as_o no_o man_n dare_v touch_v a_o gift_n offer_v and_o devote_v to_o god_n so_o no_o man_n dare_v touch_v one_o that_o be_v anathematise_v but_o this_o be_v do_v for_o different_a reason_n none_o will_v come_v near_o the_o holy_a gift_n because_o it_o be_v consecrate_a to_o god_n but_o all_o man_n separate_v from_o the_o excommunicate_v as_o be_v unholy_a and_o alienate_v from_o god_n loc_n god_n ap_fw-mi theoph._n in_o rom._n ix_o 3._o &_o ipse_fw-la chrysost_fw-la hom_n 16._o in_o 9_o rom._n ita_fw-la etiam_fw-la theodor._n in_o loc_n and_o theodoret_n note_v that_o anathema_n signify_v not_o only_o that_o which_o be_v offer_v to_o god_n but_o that_o which_o be_v alienate_v from_o he_o and_o in_o the_o latter_a sense_n he_o apply_v it_o to_o
speak_v of_o his_o apostle_n determine_v in_o the_o school_n or_o solve_v case_n of_o conscience_n but_o of_o the_o power_n they_o shall_v have_v to_o punish_v contumacious_a offender_n and_o injurious_a person_n and_o though_o mr._n selden_n object_n it_o be_v not_o whosoever_o you_o shall_v bind_v but_o whatsoever_o yet_o he_o answer_v himself_o say_v that_o it_o be_v true_a person_n may_v be_v signify_v by_o the_o neuter_n gender_n pag._n 159._o final_o for_o his_o fancy_n that_o the_o force_n of_o excommunication_n depend_v on_o private_a pact_n among_o the_o christian_n it_o be_v not_o to_o be_v imagine_v that_o murderer_n and_o adulterer_n perjure_a person_n and_o apostate_n will_v have_v scruple_v break_v these_o part_n or_o have_v be_v so_o terrify_v and_o deject_v by_o a_o excommunication_n if_o it_o have_v only_o rely_v on_o their_o own_o promise_n to_o obey_v it_o i_o grant_v indeed_o the_o christian_n do_v vow_n in_o baptism_n and_o the_o eucharist_n to_o observe_v christ_n command_n and_o submit_v to_o his_o injunction_n among_o which_o doubtless_o they_o reckon_v this_o so_o much_o reverence_v discipline_n to_o which_o they_o be_v subject_a for_o that_o they_o believe_v it_o to_o be_v exercise_v in_o christ_n name_n and_o by_o virtue_n of_o his_o authority_n we_o conclude_v therefore_o that_o mr._n selden_n have_v gain_v nothing_o by_o this_o prolix_a excursion_n but_o only_o to_o convince_v we_o that_o he_o wish_v excommunication_n be_v not_o of_o divine_a right_n though_o he_o be_v not_o able_a to_o prove_v it_o and_o no_o question_n we_o be_v much_o safe_a in_o believe_v with_o those_o holy_a primitive_a bishop_n who_o may_v know_v the_o mind_n of_o christ_n and_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o apostle_n much_o better_o than_o our_o modern_a critic_n and_o who_o be_v more_o likely_a to_o tell_v we_o the_o truth_n than_o those_o who_o espouse_v a_o party_n and_o serve_v end_n of_o revenge_n for_o censure_n not_o undeserved_o lay_v upon_o they_o §_o iii_o our_o next_o enquiry_n as_o to_o practice_n be_v whether_o this_o rite_n of_o excommunication_n be_v use_v and_o believe_v of_o divine_a right_n after_o the_o empire_n become_v christian_n and_o this_o we_o must_v do_v the_o more_o large_o to_o confute_v the_o error_n of_o erastus_n espouse_v also_o by_o mr._n selden_n who_o attempt_v to_o prove_v that_o in_o a_o christian_a state_n there_o be_v no_o need_n of_o any_o such_o thing_n as_o a_o power_n of_o excommunication_n in_o the_o churchman_n because_o the_o magistrate_n now_o may_v punish_v all_o crime_n and_o that_o it_o be_v only_o for_o want_n of_o this_o blessing_n of_o christian_a magistrate_n which_o force_v the_o primitive_a bishop_n to_o use_v excommunication_n to_o which_o mr._n selden_n add_v that_o after_o the_o empire_n become_v christian_n the_o bishop_n derive_v their_o power_n to_o excommunicate_v from_o the_o prince_n grant_n there_o be_v no_o better_a way_n to_o find_v out_o the_o truth_n herein_o than_o to_o consult_v the_o record_n of_o those_o age_n and_o to_o inquire_v into_o the_o opinion_n of_o the_o most_o eminent_a father_n after_o constantine_n time_n and_o into_o the_o practice_n of_o those_o age_n which_o retain_v the_o primitive_a purity_n and_o though_o we_o can_v bring_v in_o all_o thing_n of_o this_o kind_n between_o the_o year_n 300._o and_o 500_o for_o that_o will_v be_v to_o write_v a_o church_n history_n not_o a_o discourse_n upon_o one_o single_a point_n yet_o we_o will_v remark_n that_o which_o be_v sufficient_a to_o baffle_v this_o modern_a and_o ill_a ground_a conceit_n and_o first_o whereas_o it_o be_v most_o certain_a that_o the_o bishop_n do_v excommunicate_a in_o constantine_n time_n yet_o no_o writer_n of_o that_o age_n do_v affirm_v they_o do_v it_o by_o any_o power_n from_o the_o emperor_n and_o mr._n selden_n out_o of_o his_o vast_a stock_n of_o read_v at_o this_o dead_a lift_n can_v not_o bring_v one_o single_a memorial_n of_o the_o emperor_n give_v the_o bishop_n a_o power_n to_o excommunicate_v in_o all_o this_o period_n of_o time_n it_o be_v true_a these_o first_o christian_a emperor_n and_o constantine_n particular_o do_v ordain_v that_o if_o any_o litigant_n desire_v to_o have_v their_o cause_n try_v before_o the_o bishop_n they_o may_v leave_v the_o secular_a tribunal_n and_o that_o the_o bishop_n sentence_n shall_v be_v firm_a and_o of_o more_o authority_n than_o those_o of_o other_o judge_n yea_o as_o valid_a as_o if_o they_o be_v deliver_v by_o the_o emperor_n himself_o as_o also_o that_o the_o magistrate_n and_o their_o officer_n shall_v execute_v their_o sentence_n and_o that_o the_o decree_n of_o their_o council_n shall_v be_v valid_a fine_a valid_a sozomen_n hist_o eccles_n lib._n 1._o cap._n 9_o p._n 206._o circa_n an._n 314._o vide_fw-la cod._n theodos_fw-la l._n 16._o tit._n 2._o in_o fine_a which_o law_n do_v indeed_o give_v they_o a_o new_a power_n not_o grant_v by_o christ_n but_o never_o mention_n excommunication_n yea_o it_o ordain_v that_o these_o sentence_n shall_v be_v execute_v by_o another_o method_n even_o by_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n and_o his_o officer_n mr._n selden_n indeed_o produce_v another_o law_n as_o if_o it_o be_v a_o repeal_n of_o this_o in_o the_o time_n of_o valens_n gratian_n and_o valentinian_n ann._n 376._o above_o 60._o year_n after_o but_o that_o law_n seem_v to_o except_v only_o criminal_a action_n from_o the_o bishop_n cognizance_n 187._o cognizance_n vid._n seld._n synedr_n l._n 1._o cap._n 10._o p._n 187._o and_o if_o we_o consider_v the_o complaint_n of_o the_o good_a bishop_n in_o that_o age_n who_o be_v burden_a with_o divers_a civil_a cause_n or_o look_v upon_o those_o law_n of_o arcadius_n and_o honorius_n 408._o honorius_n cod._n justin_n lib._n 1._o tit._n 4._o the_o epist_n aud._n l._n 7._o an._n 398._o &_o l._n 8._o an._n 408._o and_o of_o honorius_n and_o theodosius_n which_o allow_v man_n to_o choose_v bishop_n for_o decide_v their_o civil_a cause_n and_o declare_v their_o sentence_n to_o be_v firm_a and_o valid_a we_o shall_v easy_o perceive_v that_o constantine_n law_n be_v never_o repeal_v nor_o this_o practice_n difuse_v but_o this_o do_v not_o at_o all_o belong_v to_o excommunication_n which_o power_n the_o bishop_n exercise_v by_o the_o virtue_n of_o christ_n commission_n in_o case_n of_o heresy_n and_o scandal_n and_o that_o not_o by_o consent_n of_o the_o party_n as_o they_o do_v this_o power_n of_o decision_n of_o civil_a cause_n so_o that_o mr._n selden_n ought_v not_o to_o make_v excommunication_n depend_v on_o these_o grant_n for_o the_o emperor_n authority_n do_v not_o precede_v but_o follow_v the_o bishop_n act_n in_o excommunication_n so_o that_o if_o the_o person_n censure_v prove_v obstinate_a or_o troublesome_a he_o be_v banish_v or_o imprison_v by_o the_o imperial_a power_n as_o we_o see_v in_o the_o case_n of_o the_o arian_n who_o be_v excommunicate_v by_o the_o first_o general_n council_n of_o nice_a and_o the_o emperor_n constantine_n do_v ordain_v that_o those_o who_o submit_v not_o to_o the_o decree_n of_o the_o council_n shall_v be_v banish_v 221._o banish_v sozom_o eccles_n hist_o lib._n 1._o cap._n 19_o p._n 221._o and_o that_o the_o bishop_n do_v exercise_v this_o power_n in_o their_o own_o right_n as_o derive_v from_o christ_n be_v manifest_a from_o the_o whole_a history_n of_o that_o age_n arius_n himself_o and_o all_o his_o associate_n be_v excommunicate_v at_o alexandria_n first_o by_o peter_n and_o then_o by_o alexander_n the_o bishop_n of_o that_o city_n 215._o city_n idem_fw-la ibid._n cap._n 14._o p._n 215._o before_o any_o application_n be_v make_v to_o the_o emperor_n and_o before_o the_o nicene_n council_n be_v call_v and_o that_o most_o famous_a council_n in_o almost_o every_o canon_n suppose_v the_o bishop_n to_o be_v the_o judge_n of_o such_o as_o be_v to_o be_v keep_v out_o and_o such_o as_o be_v to_o be_v let_v into_o the_o church_n and_o those_o holy_a father_n do_v decree_n concern_v penitent_n and_o lapse_v person_n according_a to_o the_o ancient_a usage_n of_o ecclesiastical_a discipline_n under_o heathen_a emperor_n without_o any_o alteration_n make_v upon_o the_o account_n of_o constantine_n be_v a_o christian_n make_v the_o bishop_n the_o sole_a judge_n of_o the_o time_n of_o exclude_v these_o offender_n from_o communion_n in_o sacred_a office_n to_o this_o we_o may_v add_v that_o accurate_a scheme_n of_o the_o admirable_a discipline_n of_o these_o primitive_a age_n which_o be_v describe_v in_o the_o canonical_a epistle_n of_o gregory_n thaumaturgus_n s._n basil_n and_o other_o of_o the_o primitive_a bishop_n by_o which_o we_o see_v that_o such_o as_o be_v first_o excommunicate_v by_o the_o bishop_n for_o fornication_n adultery_n murder_n perjury_n apostasy_n and_o other_o crime_n 72._o crime_n vid._n leonem_fw-la allatium_fw-la de_fw-la narthece_n vet._n eccl._n §._o 19_o p._n 94._o et_fw-la bevereg_n not._n ad_fw-la can._n xi_o
christianity_n an._n 862._o capit_fw-la car._n calv._n cap._n 4_o 5._o so_o that_o still_o the_o bishop_n exercise_v his_o spiritual_a jurisdiction_n by_o the_o power_n he_o have_v receive_v from_o god_n and_o lest_o any_o shall_v despise_v this_o as_o be_v a_o spiritual_a penalty_n the_o secular_a law_n of_o these_o pious_a prince_n do_v inflict_v outward_a punishment_n on_o such_o imprisonment_n banishment_n confiscation_n of_o their_o good_n and_o death_n itself_o and_o now_o when_o by_o these_o secular_a penalty_n annex_v excommunication_n be_v become_v so_o terrible_a and_o so_o grievous_a not_o only_o to_o the_o soul_n by_o christ_n ordinance_n but_o to_o man_n outward_a condition_n by_o the_o law_n of_o the_o kingdom_n it_o be_v no_o wonder_n that_o these_o prince_n do_v revive_v those_o old_a canon_n which_o forbid_v the_o bishop_n rash_o to_o excommunicate_v for_o it_o be_v so_o great_a a_o temporal_a damage_n to_o their_o subject_n that_o they_o be_v now_o concern_v to_o see_v that_o the_o bishop_n do_v use_v their_o power_n only_o in_o just_a and_o weighty_a cause_n and_o hence_o we_o find_v those_o law_n make_v that_o excommunication_n shall_v not_o be_v issue_v out_o rash_o and_o without_o cause_n 136._o cause_n an._n 803._o cap._n 2._o &_o capit._n lib._n 1._o cap._n 136._o and_o that_o no_o bishop_n or_o priest_n shall_v excommunicate_v any_o till_o the_o cause_n be_v prove_v sufficient_a by_o the_o canon_n and_o till_o the_o offender_n either_o confess_v or_o be_v convict_v and_o according_a to_o the_o gospel_n precept_n have_v be_v warn_v to_o repent_v and_o amend_v but_o if_o after_o all_o this_o he_o despise_v the_o church_n censure_n the_o bishop_n shall_v then_o desire_v the_o royal_a power_n to_o compel_v he_o to_o submit_v etc._n etc._n 213._o etc._n an._n 858._o capit._fw-la tom._n ii_o pag._n 115._o &_o ibidem_fw-la anno_fw-la 869._o cap._n 10._o pag._n 213._o and_o again_o no_o bishop_n shall_v excommunicate_v any_o person_n without_o a_o certain_a and_o manifest_a cause_n but_o the_o anathema_n shall_v not_o be_v pronounce_v without_o the_o consent_n of_o his_o archbishop_n and_o fellow_n bishop_n after_o the_o evangelical_n admonition_n and_o for_o some_o cause_n allow_v by_o the_o canon_n because_o the_o anathema_n be_v a_o condemn_v to_o eternal_a death_n and_o ought_v not_o to_o be_v inflict_v but_o for_o mortal_a sin_n and_o on_o incorrigible_a offender_n 36._o offender_n an._n 846._o cap._n carol._n calv._n cap._n 46._o tom._n ii_o pag._n 36._o in_o which_o law_n those_o prince_n do_v not_o take_v upon_o they_o arbitrary_o to_o limit_v restrain_v or_o direct_v the_o power_n of_o excommunication_n as_o if_o their_o bishop_n have_v that_o power_n from_o they_o and_o not_o from_o christ_n only_o they_o take_v care_n that_o they_o shall_v not_o use_v that_o power_n which_o christ_n have_v trust_v they_o with_o otherwise_o than_o according_a to_o the_o direction_n which_o scripture_n and_o the_o old_a canon_n have_v give_v for_o the_o more_o orderly_a exercise_n thereof_o and_o that_o they_o shall_v not_o abuse_v their_o power_n now_o amplify_v by_o temporal_a accession_n to_o the_o damage_n of_o private_a subject_n or_o to_o the_o disturbance_n of_o the_o public_a peace_n and_o this_o these_o christian_a prince_n be_v oblige_v to_o do_v by_o their_o office_n and_o they_o do_v it_o without_o infringe_v the_o bishop_n divine_a right_n at_o all_o for_o though_o a_o parent_n by_o divine_a right_n have_v power_n over_o his_o child_n yet_o without_o take_v away_o that_o right_o the_o state_n may_v direct_v parent_n how_o to_o manage_v that_o power_n and_o beside_o it_o may_v be_v observe_v that_o none_o of_o the_o prince_n do_v ever_o pretend_v either_o to_o grant_v the_o bishop_n this_o power_n or_o whole_o to_o forbid_v they_o to_o exercise_v it_o only_o they_o direct_v they_o to_o manage_v it_o wary_o and_o wise_o and_o as_o they_o ought_v to_o have_v manage_v it_o if_o no_o such_o rule_n have_v be_v give_v they_o and_o thus_o mr._n selden'_v great_a argument_n take_v from_o these_o law_n as_o if_o they_o prove_v the_o power_n of_o excommunication_n to_o be_v in_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n fall_v to_o the_o ground_n §_o v._o against_o this_o full_a and_o clear_a evidence_n i_o know_v none_o that_o have_v raise_v any_o considerable_a objection_n but_o only_o the_o learned_a selden_n who_o have_v turn_v over_o all_o his_o author_n and_o record_n with_o great_a diligence_n to_o pick_v up_o something_o to_o oppose_v this_o ancient_a and_o almost_o universal_a opinion_n who_o instance_n when_o i_o have_v examine_v and_o answer_v i_o need_v not_o fear_v any_o great_a matter_n out_o of_o antiquity_n because_o he_o have_v a_o personal_a quarrel_n to_o the_o position_n i_o maintain_v and_o a_o vast_a stock_n of_o learning_n to_o enable_v he_o to_o manage_v it_o to_o the_o best_a advantage_n his_o objection_n be_v not_o put_v into_o any_o method_n but_o i_o shall_v collect_v they_o into_o the_o best_a order_n i_o can_v and_o with_o all_o due_a respect_n to_o so_o great_a a_o antiquary_n unfortunate_a only_o in_o the_o cause_n he_o undertake_v i_o shall_v consider_v they_o first_o he_o pretend_v that_o constantine_n do_v absolve_v eusebius_n of_o nicomedia_n and_o theognis_n of_o nice_a two_o arrian_n bishop_n who_o the_o council_n of_o nice_a have_v excommunicate_v and_o this_o he_o will_v prove_v by_o the_o phrase_n of_o a_o arabic_a historian_n who_o live_v long_o after_o this_o time_n 188._o time_n seld_o syne_v l._n i._o cap._n 10._o p._n 187_o 188._o but_o sozomen_n a_o more_o authentic_a author_n give_v we_o a_o copy_n of_o their_o petition_n or_o recantation_n offer_v to_o the_o bishop_n in_o the_o end_n of_o which_o they_o desire_v upon_o their_o repentance_n that_o these_o bishop_n will_v put_v the_o emperor_n in_o mind_n of_o they_o and_o let_v he_o know_v their_o intention_n and_o that_o they_o will_v please_v speedy_o to_o determine_v what_o they_o shall_v think_v expedient_a concern_v they_o 242._o they_o sozem._n histor_n lib._n 2._o cap._n 15._o p._n 242._o so_o that_o it_o be_v the_o bishop_n alone_a who_o can_v absolve_v they_o from_o the_o excommunication_n only_o since_o they_o be_v banish_v by_o the_o emperor_n authority_n he_o be_v to_o be_v request_v to_o take_v off_o that_o penalty_n which_o he_o lay_v on_o and_o to_o let_v they_o return_v to_o their_o church_n when_o the_o bishop_n have_v accept_v their_o repentance_n and_o take_v off_o the_o ecclesastical_a censure_n second_o he_o take_v much_o pain_n to_o prove_v the_o christian_a emperor_n from_o constantine_n time_n till_o gratian'ss_n viz._n for_o about_o 60_o year_n have_v the_o title_n and_o office_n of_o pontifices_fw-la maximi_fw-la and_o the_o supreme_a power_n in_o matter_n relate_v to_o religion_n and_o consequent_o he_o suppose_v the_o bishop_n must_v excommunicate_v by_o delegation_n from_o the_o emperor_n 188._o emperor_n seld._n ibid._n p._n 178._o ad_fw-la p._n 188._o for_o the_o title_n i_o shall_v easy_o grant_v that_o they_o bear_v it_o but_o his_o inference_n from_o it_o i_o must_v utter_o deny_v since_o there_o be_v not_o in_o all_o mr._n selden'_v read_v one_o line_n produce_v out_o of_o antiquity_n to_o show_v that_o the_o emperor_n do_v delegate_v this_o power_n to_o the_o bishop_n no_o edict_n no_o law_n nor_o rescript_n no_o historian_n ever_o mention_v such_o a_o thing_n no_o council_n no_o bishop_n be_v ever_o so_o grateful_a as_o to_o own_o this_o great_a favour_n so_o that_o it_o be_v a_o mere_a chimaera_n the_o bishop_n do_v excommunicate_a before_o constantine_n government_n and_o under_o it_o and_o after_o it_o in_o the_o same_o manner_n and_o as_o have_v be_v show_v even_o then_o declare_v their_o power_n be_v from_o god_n it_o be_v true_a the_o admit_v they_o to_o sit_v as_o judge_n in_o temporal_a cause_n be_v by_o delegate_v power_n from_o the_o emperor_n and_o therefore_o mr._n selden_n have_v produce_v many_o rescript_n to_o grant_v they_o that_o power_n but_o not_o one_o can_v he_o or_o any_o man_n ●●se_n find_v wherein_o the_o emperor_n give_v they_o power_n to_o excommunicate_v wherefore_o they_o have_v that_o power_n by_o a_o commission_n from_o christ_n three_o he_o mention_n those_o phrase_n in_o the_o imperial_a law_n wherein_o the_o heretic_n who_o deny_v the_o nicene_n faith_n be_v to_o be_v drive_v and_o remove_v from_o the_o threshold_n of_o all_o church_n and_o not_o to_o be_v permit_v to_o meet_v in_o any_o church_n to_o be_v forbid_v the_o communion_n of_o saint_n and_o exclude_v the_o public_a meeting_n etc._n etc._n 172._o etc._n seld._n synedr_n l._n i._o cap._n 10._o p._n 172._o which_o he_o will_v have_v to_o signify_v a_o imperial_a excommunication_n but_o the_o intelligent_a reader_n know_v that_o the_o bishop_n in_o council_n have_v first_o decree_v this_o excommunication_n and_o that_o by_o virtue_n of_o a_o express_a divine_a precept_n titus_n
iii._o 10._o but_o the_o arrian_n and_o other_o heretic_n be_v then_o so_o numerous_a and_o so_o bold_a as_o to_o hold_v their_o church_n in_o despite_n of_o the_o ecclesiastical_a censure_n whereupon_o the_o orthodox_n emperor_n strengthen_v the_o bishop_n sentence_n with_o secular_a law_n and_o by_o temporal_a penalty_n enjoin_v the_o same_o thing_n which_o the_o bishop_n have_v decree_v by_o divine_a authority_n and_o write_v to_o their_o prefect_n and_o great_a officer_n to_o see_v the_o insolence_n of_o the_o heretic_n restrain_v and_o that_o they_o shall_v turn_v they_o out_o of_o the_o church_n by_o force_n from_o whence_o the_o bishop_n have_v exclude_v they_o by_o their_o spiritual_a sentence_n now_o be_v this_o to_o take_v the_o bishop_n office_n and_o power_n from_o they_o yea_o be_v not_o this_o the_o plain_a evidence_n the_o emperor_n can_v give_v that_o they_o believe_v the_o bishop_n have_v this_o power_n from_o god_n when_o they_o make_v themselves_o executioner_n of_o their_o sentence_n upon_o the_o stubborn_a and_o refractory_a again_o the_o elder_a of_o these_o rescript_n bear_v date_n an._n 381._o and_o mr._n selden_n suppose_v that_o this_o power_n be_v delegated_a to_o the_o bishop_n by_o the_o emperor_n long_o before_o and_o if_o so_o how_o come_v they_o now_o first_o personal_o to_o exercise_v it_o or_o when_o do_v they_o reassume_v this_o power_n or_o take_v it_o from_o the_o bishop_n again_o do_v not_o the_o bishop_n at_o constantinople_n in_o the_o second_o general_a council_n this_o very_a year_n exercise_v this_o same_o power_n why_o then_o shall_v this_o confirmation_n of_o their_o sentence_n this_o follow_v their_o decision_n by_o a_o temporal_a law_n be_v suppose_v a_o take_v away_o their_o power_n if_o we_o examine_v the_o date_n of_o that_o council_n it_o be_v plain_a that_o the_o council_n be_v begin_v in_o may_n and_o continue_v to_o november_n an._n 381_o as_o the_o learned_a dr._n beverege_n compute_v 89._o compute_v bever_n annot_n tom._n 2._o p._n 89._o but_o this_o law_n bear_v date_n the_o four_o of_o the_o ides_n of_o january_n follow_v and_o under_o the_o same_o consul_n 1._o consul_n justin_n cod._n l._n 1._o tit_n i._o l._n 2._o p._n 1._o so_o that_o the_o bishop_n have_v first_o excommunicate_v every_o heresy_n contrary_a to_o the_o nicene_n faith_n in_o the_o first_o canon_n of_o that_o council_n and_o then_o some_o month_n after_o the_o emperor_n order_v his_o prefect_n to_o see_v their_o sentence_n execute_v four_o mr._n selden_n bring_v in_o those_o imperial_a law_n that_o do_v allow_v the_o bishop_n to_o be_v the_o judge_n in_o all_o cause_n if_o the_o contend_a party_n consent_v and_o also_o those_o which_o only_o permit_v they_o to_o judge_v cause_n concern_v matter_n of_o religion_n or_o matter_n between_o clergyman_n and_o he_o suppose_v the_o emperor_n permit_v enlarge_a and_o temper_v or_o restrain_v this_o sort_n of_o jurisdiction_n arbitrary_o will_v prove_v that_o they_o do_v the_o same_o as_o to_o excommunication_n which_o be_v the_o principal_a instrument_n serve_v to_o this_o jurisdiction_n 190._o jurisdiction_n seld._n synedr_n l._n i._o cap._n 10._o p._n 187_o 188_o 189_o 190._o to_o which_o i_o reply_v that_o the_o bishop_n have_v a_o power_n of_o excommunication_n long_o before_o they_o have_v this_o jurisdiction_n and_o the_o one_o no_o way_n depend_v on_o the_o other_o nor_o do_v these_o edict_n at_o all_o mention_n the_o power_n of_o excommunication_n nor_o be_v that_o power_n ever_o limit_v to_o be_v use_v only_o against_o the_o clergy_n as_o this_o jurisdiction_n sometime_o seem_v to_o have_v be_v and_o again_o if_o it_o be_v only_o a_o power_n to_o judge_v cause_n where_o both_o party_n be_v willing_a as_o be_v clear_o express_v in_o the_o law_n of_o arcadius_n honorius_n and_o theodosius_n they_o who_o will_v try_v their_o cause_n before_o they_o by_o consent_n vii_o consent_n justin_n co●_n l._n i._o tit_n 4._o l._n vii_o and_o they_o who_o have_v choose_v the_o priest_n to_o hear_v their_o cause_n 26._o cause_n ibid._n l._n 8._o p._n 25_o &_o 26._o than_o excommunication_n be_v not_o needful_a nor_o can_v it_o be_v any_o instrument_n serve_v to_o this_o kind_n of_o jurisdiction_n wherefore_o the_o emperor_n enlarge_n or_o restrain_v this_o jurisdiction_n do_v no_o way_n enlarge_v or_o restrain_v their_o power_n of_o excommunication_n which_o they_o exercise_v against_o heretic_n and_o such_o as_o be_v guilty_a of_o impiety_n or_o immorality_n not_o against_o those_o who_o contend_v about_o their_o civil_a right_n so_o that_o all_o these_o law_n be_v nothing_o to_o the_o purpose_n only_o we_o may_v observe_v that_o constantine_n first_o law_n give_v they_o a_o general_a power_n of_o hear_v all_o sort_n of_o civil_a cause_n bear_v date_n an._n 314_o 177._o 314_o selden_n syne_v l._n i._o cap._n 10._o p._n 177._o and_o remain_v in_o force_n above_o sixty_o year_n and_o if_o it_o be_v narrow_v an._n 376_o 187_o 376_o ibid._n p._n 187_o of_o which_o if_o it_o be_v to_o our_o purpose_n some_o question_n may_v be_v make_v yet_o it_o be_v soon_o after_o enlarge_v again_o viz._n an._n 398_o 190._o 398_o ibid._n p._n 190._o and_o the_o great_a bishop_n at_o that_o time_n exercise_v all_o manner_n of_o jurisdiction_n 7._o jurisdiction_n socrates_n hist_o l._n 7._o cap._n 7._o now_o i_o refer_v it_o to_o any_o indifferent_a judge_n whether_o it_o be_v likely_a that_o those_o emperor_n who_o give_v they_o more_o power_n than_o christ_n have_v appoint_v shall_v take_v from_o they_o a_o ancient_a piece_n of_o authority_n which_o these_o bishop_n open_o declare_v they_o derive_v from_o christ_n and_o which_o they_o and_o their_o predecessor_n have_v always_o enjoy_v five_o he_o allege_v that_o justinian_n do_v very_o often_o in_o his_o own_o name_n pronounce_v anathema_n against_o heretic_n 172._o heretic_n seld._n ibid._n p._n 172._o but_o this_o be_v easy_o answer_v out_o of_o the_o place_n cite_v by_o mr._n selden_n for_o justinian_n declare_v there_o that_o herein_o he_o follow_v the_o apostle_n and_o the_o holy_a bishop_n who_o succeed_v they_o praef_n they_o justin_n cod._n l._n l._n tit_n 1._o l._n v._o praef_n and_o that_o he_o follow_v the_o holy_a priest_n herein_o praefat_fw-la herein_o ibid._n l._n vi_o praefat_fw-la and_o do_v anathematise_v all_o they_o that_o have_v be_v anathematise_v in_o the_o four_o general_a council_n 5._o council_n ibid._n l._n vii_o §._o 3_o 4_o &_o 5._o yea_o he_o say_v that_o all_o the_o bishop_n which_o be_v present_a have_v subscribe_v these_o anathema_n 4._o anathema_n ibid._n l._n vii_o §._o 3._o p._n 4._o wherefore_o this_o be_v only_o a_o declaration_n of_o that_o emperor_n faith_n and_o a_o evidence_n that_o he_o hold_v the_o true_a catholic_n religion_n nor_o be_v his_o put_v these_o anathema_n into_o his_o edict_n any_o exercise_n of_o the_o power_n of_o excommunication_n for_o beside_o that_o they_o be_v level_v at_o opinion_n and_o not_o at_o any_o particular_a person_n this_o general_a anathema_n be_v not_o proper_o a_o censure_n but_o a_o high_a act_n of_o detestation_n declare_v the_o person_n use_v it_o abhor_v those_o opinion_n and_o think_v such_o as_o hold_v they_o deserve_v to_o be_v accurse_v that_o be_v by_o those_o who_o have_v the_o power_n to_o pronounce_v they_o so_o judicial_o and_o mr._n selden_n know_v this_o very_a well_o for_o in_o the_o next_o page_n page_n 173._o he_o observe_v that_o some_o learned_a man_n do_v distinguish_v concern_v these_o anathema_n use_v by_o lay-man_n either_o in_o donation_n or_o law_n and_o those_o pronounce_v by_o the_o clergy_n for_o these_o be_v effectual_a but_o those_o of_o the_o laity_n only_o signify_v those_o that_o use_v they_o wish_v such_o a_o sentence_n may_v be_v issue_v out_o effectual_o by_o the_o ecclesiastical_a order_n against_o these_o heretic_n or_o that_o they_o give_v their_o assent_n to_o some_o such_o sentence_n former_o pronounce_v by_o these_o order_n or_o that_o they_o high_o detest_v and_o abhor_v such_o person_n and_o their_o opinion_n even_o as_o the_o reconcile_a quartadecimani_fw-la who_o be_v lay-man_n do_v anathematise_v that_o and_o all_o heresy_n in_o the_o council_n of_o ephesus_n 260._o ephesus_n seld._n synedr_n l._n i._o cap._n 10._o p._n 173._o item_n binius_fw-la tom._n i._n par_fw-fr 2._o pag._n 260._o now_o it_o will_v be_v a_o very_a weak_a assertion_n to_o say_v these_o lay-man_n do_v in_o this_o renounce_n heresy_n with_o anathema_n exercise_n the_o office_n of_o bishop_n and_o yet_o that_o be_v as_o true_a and_o reasonable_a as_o to_o think_v or_o affirm_v that_o justinian_n do_v take_v upon_o he_o by_o his_o own_o imperial_a authority_n to_o excommunicate_v these_o heretic_n by_o anathema_n for_o when_o the_o anathema_n be_v a_o formal_a sentence_n it_o be_v always_o pronounce_v by_o a_o bishop_n six_o his_o most_o specious_a argument_n be_v that_o novel_a constitution_n of_o
justinian_o which_o mr._n selden_n say_v be_v a_o law_n make_v by_o he_o as_o the_o supreme_a arbiter_n of_o excommunication_n 172._o excommunication_n seld._n the_o syned_a p._n 172._o and_o a_o little_a after_o he_o cite_v it_o at_o large_a and_o speak_v very_o great_a thing_n of_o it_o 191._o it_o ibid._n p._n 191._o as_o if_o the_o bishop_n by_o this_o law_n may_v not_o excommunicate_v otherwise_o than_o by_o the_o rule_v he_o prescribe_v and_o lest_o we_o shall_v seem_v to_o fear_v this_o terrible_a law_n we_o will_v transcribe_v it_o also_o the_o word_n be_v these_o we_o forbid_v all_o bishop_n and_o priest_n to_o exclude_v any_o person_n from_o the_o holy_a communion_n before_o the_o cause_n be_v show_v for_o which_o the_o ecclesiastical_a canon_n command_v it_o to_o be_v do_v and_o if_o any_o do_v exclude_v any_o one_o from_o the_o holy_a communion_n on_o other_o account_n he_o that_o be_v unjust_o excommunicate_v shall_v be_v absolve_v and_o admit_v to_o the_o communion_n by_o a_o great_a priest_n and_o he_o that_o presume_v to_o excommunicate_v he_o shall_v by_o his_o superior_a priest_n be_v deprive_v of_o the_o communion_n so_o as_o his_o superior_a see_v fit_a that_o what_o he_o have_v do_v unjust_o he_o may_v suffer_v 125._o suffer_v justin_n authent_fw-fr collat._n 9_o tit_n 6._o nou._n 123._o cap._n xi_o p._n 171._o et_fw-la basilic_fw-la tit._n 9_o cap._n 9_o p._n 124._o et_fw-la photij_fw-la nomocan_n p._n 124_o 125._o now_o for_o answer_v to_o this_o objection_n i_o may_v reply_v that_o this_o law_n come_v too_o late_o to_o wrest_v this_o divine_a right_n out_o of_o the_o bishop_n hand_n for_o if_o justinian_n have_v attempt_v to_o take_v this_o power_n from_o they_o after_o 550_o year_n possession_n and_o a_o original_a title_n from_o christ_n and_o the_o apostle_n it_o have_v signify_v no_o great_a matter_n but_o if_o we_o review_v the_o law_n we_o shall_v find_v no_o such_o thing_n be_v design_v by_o it_o for_o we_o see_v he_o do_v not_o hinder_v bishop_n to_o excommunicate_v for_o any_o offence_n which_o the_o canon_n have_v make_v liable_a to_o that_o penalty_n and_o that_o be_v all_o heresy_n and_o all_o sort_n of_o impiety_n and_o immorality_n as_o may_v easy_o be_v prove_v if_o need_n be_v and_o these_o canon_n be_v make_v by_o the_o bishop_n in_o all_o age_n so_o that_o this_o be_v no_o abridge_n of_o their_o liberty_n nor_o be_v they_o tie_v to_o any_o other_o rule_n than_o those_o of_o their_o own_o and_o their_o predecessor_n make_v by_o which_o rule_v heretic_n schismatic_n murderer_n adulterer_n perjure_a person_n the_o malicious_a the_o profane_a and_o all_o sort_n of_o scandalous_a offender_n be_v to_o be_v excommunicate_v and_o to_o say_v they_o must_v censure_v none_o but_o these_o be_v to_o give_v they_o all_o the_o liberty_n christ_n have_v allow_v they_o or_o their_o predecessor_n use_v and_o though_o it_o be_v say_v the_o cause_n must_v be_v first_o show_v this_o do_v not_o mean_v it_o must_v be_v show_v to_o the_o emperor_n or_o any_o secular_a magistrate_n only_o the_o bishop_n must_v proceed_v regular_o and_o first_o warn_v the_o criminal_a as_o christ_n himself_o direct_v matth._n xviii_o and_o then_o convict_v he_o of_o the_o offence_n so_o that_o the_o person_n excommunicate_v may_v know_v what_o fault_n he_o be_v punish_v for_o which_o be_v so_o just_a and_o reasonable_a a_o temperament_n that_o he_o deserve_v not_o to_o be_v trust_v with_o any_o power_n of_o judge_v by_o god_n or_o man_n who_o will_v not_o observe_v this_o nor_o can_v excommunication_n attain_v the_o end_n which_o christ_n appoint_v it_o for_o even_o the_o conversion_n of_o the_o sinner_n unless_o the_o bishop_n do_v thus_o proceed_v so_o that_o christ_n as_o well_o as_o the_o emperor_n require_v this_o which_o imply_v no_o more_o than_o that_o this_o weighty_a censure_n ought_v not_o to_o be_v rash_o and_o unjust_o lay_v on_o contrary_a to_o the_o rule_n of_o christ_n who_o be_v the_o author_n of_o it_o and_o to_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o ancient_a church_n and_o for_o the_o emperor_n to_o make_v such_o a_o law_n do_v no_o more_o disprove_v the_o clergy_n divine_v right_o to_o excommunicate_v than_o our_o english_a law_n that_o the_o clergy_n shall_v pray_v at_o such_o time_n and_o in_o such_o gesture_n and_o habit_n and_o by_o such_o a_o form_n agreeable_a to_o god_n word_n and_o that_o they_o shall_v preach_v in_o such_o certain_a place_n or_o on_o such_o day_n and_o not_o vent_v any_o heresy_n or_o sedition_n in_o their_o sermon_n do_v prove_v that_o our_o clergy_n have_v not_o authority_n from_o god_n to_o pray_v and_o preach_v and_o the_o like_a may_v be_v say_v of_o the_o sacrament_n no_o doubt_v the_o supreme_a power_n ought_v to_o see_v that_o all_o man_n of_o all_o rank_n do_v that_o duty_n which_o god_n require_v of_o they_o orderly_a uniform_o and_o so_o as_o may_v be_v for_o the_o common_a benefit_n and_o in_o so_o do_v they_o do_v not_o invade_v any_o person_n right_o it_o be_v true_a if_o that_o emperor_n have_v forbid_v the_o bishop_n to_o excommunicate_v any_o man_n for_o any_o cause_n as_o he_o that_o give_v may_v take_v away_o a_o delegated_a power_n or_o if_o our_o law_n shall_v whole_o forbid_v the_o clergy_n to_o pray_v preach_v or_o administer_v the_o sacrament_n than_o the_o divine_a right_o will_v be_v invade_v but_o not_o when_o they_o only_o direct_v we_o to_o exercise_v our_o power_n wise_o orderly_o and_o profitable_o this_o be_v no_o more_o than_o for_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n to_o make_v a_o hedge_n for_o god_n law_n as_o mr._n selden_n observe_v and_o indeed_o argue_v very_o well_o against_o this_o false_a inference_n of_o his_o own_o 288._o own_o seld_o lib._n 1._o cap._n 10._o pag._n 277_o &_o pag._n 288._o beside_o after_o all_o this_o flourish_n mr._n selden_n well_o know_v that_o this_o law_n be_v no_o other_o than_o what_o the_o canon_n of_o the_o church_n have_v decree_v before_o justinian_o time_n for_o the_o famous_a canon_n of_o carthage_n do_v ordain_v that_o no_o bishop_n shall_v rash_o or_o light_o deprive_v any_o one_o of_o the_o communion_n nor_o for_o any_o fault_n only_o know_v to_o he_o by_o the_o private_a confession_n of_o the_o party_n 668._o party_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d council_n carthag_n can._n 134._o vid._n can._n 133._o bever_n tom._n i._o p._n 668._o which_o former_a canon_n be_v the_o same_o with_o this_o law_n be_v repeat_v in_o follow_v canon_n and_o council_n of_o late_a time_n capitular_a time_n an._n 552._o council_n 5._o aurel._n can_v 2._o an._n 750._o excerp_n egbertican_n 48._o spelm._n pag._n 263._o et_fw-la in_o capitular_a so_o that_o justinian_n lay_v no_o restraint_n upon_o they_o but_o what_o the_o clergy_n have_v before_o agree_v to_o lay_v upon_o themselves_o and_o this_o law_n be_v but_o a_o confirmation_n of_o a_o former_a canon_n yea_o if_o the_o make_v such_o a_o decree_n demonstrate_v a_o supreme_a arbiter_n of_o church_n censure_n than_o the_o clergy_n be_v supreme_a arbiter_n of_o they_o long_o before_o and_o many_o year_n after_o we_o may_v now_o leave_v this_o objection_n when_o we_o have_v observe_v that_o this_o novel_a do_v not_o make_v the_o emperor_n judge_n or_o punisher_n of_o this_o rashness_n but_o the_o metropolitan_a he_o be_v to_o excommunicate_v the_o unjust_a excommunicator_n not_o the_o emperor_n which_o show_v that_o the_o offend_a bishop_n do_v not_o act_v by_o a_o delegate_n power_n for_o if_o he_o have_v the_o emperor_n will_v have_v be_v the_o punisher_n and_o if_o ever_o any_o emperor_n shall_v have_v excommunicate_v this_o have_v be_v a_o fit_a occasion_n when_o the_o bishop_n abuse_v the_o power_n they_o give_v they_o but_o lo_o here_o be_v none_o mention_v to_o execute_v this_o sentence_n but_o the_o offender_n own_o metropolitan_a one_o of_o his_o own_o order_n and_o therefore_o this_o novel_a constitution_n plain_o suppose_v none_o but_o one_o of_o the_o clergy_n can_v excommunicate_v and_o this_o add_v to_o what_o we_o note_v before_o concern_v the_o french_a capitular_a forbid_v rash_a excommunication_n be_v a_o full_a reply_n to_o this_o seem_o formidable_a objection_n there_o be_v some_o other_o slight_a objection_n relate_v to_o these_o time_n which_o we_o will_v brief_o here_o set_v down_o first_o he_o will_v prove_v the_o christian_a excommunication_n to_o be_v the_o same_o with_o the_o jewish_a from_o the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d cast_v out_o of_o the_o synagogue_n which_o some_o christian_a writer_n use_v for_o excommunication_n 276._o excommunication_n seld._n synedr_n lib._n 1._o cap._n 13._o pag._n 272_o &_o 276._o but_o who_o know_v not_o that_o very_o many_o word_n which_o have_v be_v use_v by_o the_o jew_n be_v take_v up_o by_o the_o christian_n and_o use_v in_o a_o different_a sense_n from_o that_o which_o they_o original_o
signify_v so_o the_o father_n use_n the_o word_n passover_n not_o for_o the_o jewish_a feast_n upon_o their_o paschal_n lamb_n but_o for_o the_o christian_a festival_n in_o memory_n of_o christ_n resurrection_n so_o also_o they_o use_v the_o word_n sacrifice_n for_o the_o commemoration_n of_o christ_n one_o oblation_n in_o the_o eucharist_n not_o for_o a_o real_a bloody_a sacrifice_n the_o like_a may_v be_v observe_v of_o many_o other_o word_n viz._n apostle_n baptism_n presbyter_n etc._n etc._n which_o be_v jewish_n phrase_n but_o use_v by_o the_o christian_n in_o a_o quite_o different_a sense_n wherefore_o suppose_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d do_v signify_v only_o a_o exclude_v from_o civil_a right_n among_o the_o jew_n which_o be_v not_o true_a as_o be_v show_v before_o it_o do_v not_o follow_v that_o it_o must_v signify_v no_o more_o among_o the_o christian_n again_o he_o object_n that_o a_o certain_a monk_n do_v excommunicate_v the_o young_a theodosius_n who_o will_v not_o be_v satisfy_v till_o the_o same_o monk_n have_v absolve_v he_o 36._o he_o idem_fw-la lib._n 1._o cap._n 10._o pag._n 171._o è_fw-la theodoret._n lib._n 5._o cap._n 36._o and_o hence_o he_o infer_v that_o other_o beside_o bishop_n may_v excommunicate_v without_o any_o formal_a process_n as_o the_o custom_n be_v among_o the_o latter_a jew_n i_o reply_v this_o bold_a fact_n be_v a_o single_a instance_n be_v no_o argument_n that_o such_o a_o thing_n may_v lawful_o be_v do_v yea_o the_o patriarch_n opinion_n be_v that_o the_o emperor_n need_v no_o absolution_n from_o so_o rash_a a_o sentence_n and_o it_o be_v in_o compliance_n with_o the_o emperor_n fear_n that_o this_o absolution_n be_v procure_v yet_o it_o be_v not_o improbable_a this_o monk_n be_v in_o priest_n order_n because_o theodosius_n desire_v the_o patriarch_n to_o give_v he_o licence_n to_o loose_v the_o bond_n who_o have_v lay_v it_o on_o however_o if_o the_o monk_n zeal_n transport_v he_o beyond_o the_o bound_n of_o his_o duty_n that_o be_v no_o ground_n of_o argument_n nor_o precedent_n for_o we_o to_o follow_v he_o also_o object_n the_o say_n of_o s._n hierom_n upon_o that_o place_n of_o s._n matthew_n xuj_o 19_o concern_v the_o power_n of_o bind_v and_o lose_v which_o word_n s._n hierom_n say_v some_o bishop_n and_o priest_n not_o understanding_n pharisaical_o think_v they_o can_v condemn_v the_o innocent_a or_o absolve_v the_o guilty_a whereas_o before_o god_n the_o life_n of_o the_o criminal_a be_v consider_v rather_o than_o the_o sentence_n of_o the_o priest_n and_o he_o go_v on_o to_o compare_v this_o with_o the_o office_n of_o the_o levitical_a priest_n who_o do_v not_o make_v the_o leprous_a clean_a or_o unclean_a but_o discern_v and_o declare_v who_o be_v so_o and_o say_v in_o like_a manner_n the_o priest_n and_o bishop_n now_o do_v not_o by_o bind_v or_o loose_v make_v man_n guilty_a or_o innocent_a but_o by_o virtue_n of_o their_o office_n discern_v and_o declare_v who_o be_v real_o so_o 16._o so_o seld._n syn._n lib._n 1._o cap._n 13._o pag._n 285._o ex_fw-la hieron_n com._n in_o matth._n 16._o and_o mr._n selden_n think_v this_o argue_v that_o s._n hierom_n do_v not_o think_v christ_n have_v give_v the_o clergy_n such_o a_o jurisdiction_n as_o they_o claim_v from_o these_o word_n i_o answer_v that_o we_o do_v not_o pretend_v to_o any_o such_o power_n as_o to_o condemn_v the_o innocent_a or_o clear_a the_o guilty_a but_o grant_v that_o god_n do_v not_o always_o follow_v the_o judgement_n of_o the_o church_n which_o may_v be_v impose_v on_o sometime_o 4._o sometime_o petr._n lomb._n send_v lib._n 4._o and_o that_o the_o power_n of_o loose_v be_v not_o grant_v absolute_o but_o upon_o condition_n of_o the_o party_n repentance_n 15._o repentance_n d._n basil_n reg_fw-la brev_n qu._n 15._o but_o we_o do_v affirm_v that_o when_o the_o party_n be_v real_o guilty_a and_o the_o priest_n deelares_fw-la he_o to_o be_v so_o he_o be_v not_o only_o to_o be_v exclude_v out_o of_o the_o christian_a assembly_n but_o as_o s._n hierom_n cite_v before_o say_v he_o be_v in_o a_o sort_n judge_v before_o the_o day_n of_o judgement_n and_o we_o have_v prove_v above_o that_o s._n hierom_n do_v hold_v the_o clergy_n have_v this_o power_n from_o christ_n but_o it_o be_v no_o wonder_n if_o the_o servant_n who_o act_n by_o commission_n be_v oblige_v to_o those_o condition_n which_o their_o master_n bind_v himself_o to_o neither_o angel_n nor_o archangel_n nor_o the_o lord_n himself_o will_v pardon_v any_o say_v s._n ambrose_n but_o the_o penitent_a august_n penitent_a ambros_n ep._n 28._o ad_fw-la theodos_fw-la august_n we_o do_v not_o vindicate_v the_o abuse_n of_o this_o power_n nor_o defend_v any_o that_o use_v it_o amiss_o but_o only_o we_o affirm_v it_o be_v a_o very_a dreadful●-thing_n for_o the_o guilty_a to_o be_v excommunicate_v and_o a_o very_a comfortable_a thing_n for_o the_o penitent_a to_o be_v absolve_v by_o he_o who_o have_v the_o power_n of_o judge_v grant_v by_o christ_n himself_o and_o a_o man_n ought_v to_o fear_v his_o own_o estate_n when_o the_o ambassador_n and_o substitute_n of_o christ_n do_v judge_v he_o unworthy_a of_o the_o christian_a communion_n lest_o as_o s._n chrysostom_n speak_v heaven_n shall_v follow_v earth_n and_o lest_o the_o lord_n shall_v ratify_v above_o what_o the_o servant_n have_v do_v below_o i_o be_o sure_a this_o great_a truth_n firm_o believe_v and_o well_o consider_v will_v be_v a_o powerful_a mean_n to_o bring_v sinner_n to_o repentance_n whereas_o the_o teach_a man_n to_o despise_v this_o sentence_n not_o only_o deceive_v man_n but_o harden_v they_o to_o their_o destruction_n i_o find_v no_o more_o objection_n relate_v to_o ancient_a time_n and_o mr._n selden_n proceed_v from_o thence_o to_o affirm_v that_o the_o french_a emperor_n in_o the_o west_n do_v order_n limit_z permit_v or_o restrain_v excommunication_n as_o those_o in_o the_o east_n have_v do_v but_o we_o have_v full_o answer_v all_o those_o quotation_n by_o which_o he_o pretend_v to_o prove_v this_o in_o our_o account_n of_o the_o capitular_o before_o where_o we_o have_v show_v there_o be_v nothing_o to_o make_v out_o mr._n selden'_v opinion_n there_o remain_v only_o two_o particular_n not_o consider_v before_o the_o first_o be_v that_o article_n of_o peace_n between_o the_o french_a and_o german_a prince_n an._n 860._o whereby_o it_o be_v agree_v with_o the_o consent_n of_o divers_a bishop_n that_o no_o offender_n shall_v be_v excommunicate_v till_o the_o bishop_n according_a to_o the_o gospel_n precept_n have_v admonish_v he_o to_o repent_v and_o if_o he_o refuse_v this_o admonition_n complaint_n be_v to_o be_v make_v to_o the_o king_n or_o his_o officer_n to_o compel_v he_o to_o submit_v to_o penance_n and_o to_o amend_v and_o if_o this_o will_v not_o prevail_v than_o the_o offender_n be_v to_o be_v excommunicate_v for_o his_o soul_n health_n 192._o health_n seld._n synedr_n lib._n 1._o cap._n 10._o pag._n 192._o which_o law_n do_v suppose_v the_o bishop_n power_n of_o excommunication_n ground_v on_o s._n math._n xviii_o and_o since_o christ_n there_o direct_v all_o possible_a mean_n to_o be_v use_v to_o bring_v the_o sinner_n to_o repentance_n before_o he_o be_v put_v into_o the_o state_n of_o a_o heathen_a and_o publican_n i_o do_v not_o see_v but_o this_o law_n proceed_v upon_o the_o same_o ground_n and_o no_o doubt_n in_o that_o age_n they_o do_v believe_v excommunication_n to_o be_v a_o dreadful_a thing_n since_o it_o be_v the_o high_a penalty_n and_o last_o remedy_n to_o be_v use_v so_o that_o this_o do_v not_o prove_v the_o power_n of_o excommunication_n be_v not_o original_o in_o the_o bishop_n by_o the_o grant_n of_o christ_n but_o only_o that_o it_o be_v so_o dreadful_a in_o its_o effect_n that_o all_o other_o way_n be_v first_o to_o be_v try_v towards_o offender_n yet_o withal_o if_o we_o consider_v the_o law_n well_o we_o shall_v see_v the_o civil_a authority_n be_v complain_v unto_o only_o to_o bring_v the_o offender_n to_o submit_v to_o ecclesiastical_a discipline_n not_o to_o take_v the_o cause_n out_o of_o the_o bishop_n hand_n the_o second_o particular_a be_v that_o place_n cite_v by_o ivo_n catnotensis_n out_o of_o the_o capitular_o that_o if_o the_o king_n receive_v any_o of_o the_o offender_n to_o his_o favour_n or_o admit_v they_o to_o his_o table_n the_o priest_n and_o christian_a assembly_n ought_v to_o receive_v these_o into_o ecclesiastical_a communion_n that_o he_o who_o be_v reconcile_v to_o the_o prince_n may_v not_o be_v keep_v at_o a_o distance_n from_o the_o priest_n of_o god_n 194._o god_n seld._n ut_fw-la sup_n cap._n 10._o pag._n 193_o 194._o where_o mr._n selden_n wonder_v that_o king_n shall_v have_v such_o a_o power_n of_o absolve_v in_o a_o age_n when_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n dare_v to_o excommunicate_v they_o and_o it_o be_v a_o
cap._n 11._o §._o 1._o and_o so_o do_v our_o reform_a bishop_n wherefore_o i_o be_o not_o concern_v how_o the_o papal_a encroachment_n be_v tolerate_v or_o restrain_v because_o excommunication_n be_v right_o manage_v before_o they_o be_v in_o be_v and_o be_v now_o after_o they_o be_v cast_v out_o and_o now_o a_o brief_a review_n of_o these_o objection_n will_v suffice●y_v wherefore_o we_o will_v here_o represent_v they_o all_o together_o he_o allege_v many_o particular_n to_o this_o purpose_n viz._n that_o eadmerus_n say_v concern_v william_n the_o conqueror_n that_o he_o will_v not_o suffer_v any_o of_o his_o baron_n or_o minister_n to_o be_v prosecute_v or_o excommunicate_v for_o incest_n adultery_n or_o any_o other_o capital_a crime_n 197._o crime_n seld._n de_fw-fr synedr_n lib._n i._o cap._n 10._o pag._n 197._o which_o seem_v to_o be_v a_o odious_a representation_n of_o a_o monk_n who_o be_v concern_v in_o the_o controversy_n between_o anselm_n and_o the_o crown_n for_o eadmerus_n author_n of_o this_o charge_n be_v one_o of_o anselm_n monk_n the_o truth_n therefore_o i_o suppose_v be_v that_o king_n william_n expect_v to_o have_v notice_n before_o any_o of_o his_o court_n be_v excommunicate_v for_o that_o be_v one_o of_o the_o custom_n of_o their_o father_n which_o the_o english_a nobility_n get_v to_o be_v enact_v for_o a_o law_n in_o the_o statute_n of_o clarendon_n 100_o clarendon_n statut._n clarend_a matth._n paris_n an._n 1164._o p._n 100_o but_o it_o be_v not_o credible_a that_o any_o christian_a king_n shall_v presume_v to_o forbid_v discipline_n to_o be_v exercise_v in_o such_o case_n wherein_o the_o law_n of_o god_n and_o the_o example_n of_o the_o apostle_n require_v it_o shall_v be_v use_v and_o if_o king_n william_n have_v forbid_v any_o such_o thing_n his_o prohibition_n have_v be_v impious_a and_o unjust_a as_o be_v against_o the_o express_a law_n of_o god_n but_o for_o that_o custom_n of_o the_o bishop_n acquaint_v the_o king_n first_o before_o any_o such_o sentence_n be_v issue_v out_o against_o his_o chief_a officer_n there_o seem_v to_o be_v some_o reason_n for_o it_o first_o because_o the_o king_n be_v suppose_v to_o be_v able_a to_o bring_v these_o to_o amendment_n without_o any_o severity_n second_o in_o that_o age_n many_o thing_n be_v annex_v to_o excommunication_n by_o prince_n bounty_n to_o the_o church_n so_o that_o if_o this_o person_n be_v one_o of_o who_o the_o king_n have_v great_a need_n in_o his_o affair_n he_o may_v thus_o have_v become_v useless_a to_o he_o on_o the_o sudden_a to_o the_o great_a damage_n of_o his_o government_n three_o the_o prince_n himself_o may_v thus_o unwary_o become_v liable_a to_o excommunication_n by_o converse_v with_o the_o excommunicate_a so_o that_o this_o custom_n require_v notice_n be_v give_v to_o the_o prince_n first_o and_o with_o his_o leave_n the_o offender_n may_v be_v excommunicate_v nor_o ought_v we_o to_o suppose_v that_o any_o christian_a prince_n who_o see_v a_o good_a bishop_n only_o design_v reformation_n of_o some_o scandalous_a officer_n or_o servant_n of_o he_o will_v deny_v his_o leave_n for_o the_o bishop_n to_o censure_v he_o and_o if_o he_o do_v i_o dare_v venture_v to_o say_v may_v overcome_v right_o for_o i_o be_o not_o of_o mr._n selden'_v opinion_n that_o secular_a law_n and_o custom_n be_v always_o just_a but_o i_o believe_v pious_a bishop_n have_v often_o for_o peace_n sake_n submit_v to_o unjust_a law_n and_o custom_n both_o rather_o than_o disturb_v their_o country_n or_o raise_v sedition_n against_o their_o prince_n again_o he_o object_n divers_a sentence_n of_o excommunication_n denounce_v in_o parliament_n against_o the_o infringer_n of_o magna_fw-la charta_fw-la and_o other_o liberty_n of_o the_o church_n and_o people_n i_o reply_v mr._n selden_n grant_v this_o be_v not_o proper_o excommunicate_v but_o only_o a_o threaten_v of_o this_o sentence_n in_o general_n and_o a_o declaration_n that_o they_o all_o believe_v the_o 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6_o edvard_n 6._o cap._n 4._o vide_fw-la seld._n ut_fw-la supr_fw-la pag._n 173._o which_o decree_v excommunication_n for_o strike_v in_o the_o church_n or_o church-yard_n but_o this_o be_v not_o only_o a_o law_n make_v by_o the_o bishop_n consent_n but_o also_o it_o relate_v to_o a_o matter_n of_o the_o church_n and_o be_v no_o more_o but_o a_o confirmation_n of_o divers_a ancient_a canon_n which_o they_o suppose_v will_v be_v better_o observe_v if_o the_o whole_a parliament_n do_v assent_v to_o they_o and_o pass_v they_o into_o a_o secular_a law_n as_o be_v often_o do_v by_o the_o primitive_a emperor_n in_o the_o civil_a law_n and_o by_o the_o french_a king_n in_o the_o capitular_o but_o neither_o they_o nor_o our_o parliament_n ever_o intend_v hereby_o to_o take_v the_o matter_n out_o of_o the_o clergy_n power_n or_o to_o assume_v this_o power_n into_o their_o own_o hand_n yea_o the_o statute_n cite_v express_o say_v the_o ordinary_a shall_v issue_v out_o the_o sentence_n again_o 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