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A01748 A true relation of the faction begun at VVisbich by Fa. Edmonds, alias VVeston, a Iesuite, 1595. and continued since by Fa. Walley, alias Garnet, the prouincall of the Iesuits in England, and by Fa. Parsons in Rome, with their adherents: against vs the secular priests their bretheren and fellow prisoners, that disliked of nouelties, and thought it dishonourable to the auncient ecclesiasticall discipline of the Catholike Church, that secular priests should be gouerned by Iesuits. Bagshaw, Christopher, d. 1625?; Watson, William, 1559?-1603. 1601 (1601) STC 1188; ESTC S100519 61,716 102

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burst asunder all the bands of honestic and modestie and carry away headlong many with the force thereof That if this ambition do remayne vnpunished the age that is to come shall see that it will bring into bondage not only Prelates but the very Princes and Monarches themselues whom yet she flattereth in her infancie They beseech the Pope that he would lay the axe to the roote of the tree and cut off this pride of the Societie spreading it selfe farre and neere least if once it arme it selfe with the authoritie of his Holynes it powre forth a full reuenge vpon all others to their destruction and make an infinite slaughter and massacre of soules which they haue already begun to attempt in wretched England to the great decay of the common cause That the Priests of England can finde in their banishment no harbour safe enough from this their ambition vnlesse they haue first receiued the marke of this beast in their forehead That the Pope can commaund nothing in all his Mandates but the Iesuites finde meanes to frustrate it by the secular power to the great scandall of many That the reuenge of these Iesuites hath neuer an end but with the death of their aduersaries and their reproch after their death That the Iesuites meaning them of Rome do vse to intercept all manner of letters of all men whosoeuer not forbearing the packets neither of the Cardinals nor of Princes N. calleth God and his Angels to witnes that the greatest part of the Nobilitie and Clergie in England both at home and abroade do bewaile with sighes and teares their miserable estate in that they suffer more grieuous things vnder these new Tyrants the Iesuites then in their dayly persecutions That the persecution of the Iesuites is more grieuous to the Catholicks then of the hereticks in England in this respect because they suffer vnder them for their vertue but vnder these in the name of treacherie and vnfaithfulnes The Iesuites haue so persecuted some Priests that are now Martyrs as that their death hath bin imputed partly to the hereticks and partly to the Iesuites That it is a knowne position among the Iesuites diuide and gouerne and therefore those Fathers at Rome do both stirre vp and maintayne dissensions That the Iesuites Confessors are wont to abuse the consciences of their penitentiaries to their owne commoditie That of 300. Priests which haue entred into England scarce sixe or seauen haue fallen away But of twentie Iesuites eight haue reuolted which is a notable slaunder seeing there can not be found one of them to haue reuolted which were sent in by the Societie That the Iesuits in the Low-countries are so cruell as that they haue not only brought many excellent men to a miserable end but haue reproched them after their death That nothing doth so vex the English Catholicks as the contempt and hatred of the President that now is and the slaunderous reproch falsely imputed to the renowned Cardinals Tolet and Alexandrinus That the Iesuites do eagerly wayt for the death of the Pope and of the renowned Cardinall Tolet that they might bring vpon all those that slaughter and bloudshed which they long since assayed against as many as haue dared to oppose themselues against their tyranny The chiefe remedie wherein the state of all controuersies at Rome dependeth is that the affaires of all the Colledges be committed to an assemblie of honorable Cardinals that are regular both to looke into and to determine of For there is nothing that these tyrants more feare then that they should be compelled before the Cardinals to render an accompt of their dealings Neither doth any thing giue them greater libertie of their insolencie then that they are free welnie from being called before any iudgement seate See you see quoth N my letters secretly and effectually because the enemy if he be not preuented flattereth himselfe in an assured hope of a Monarchie While the iron is hote strike worke out your busines while your Patrones liue Your enemies seeke but to gayne the time and if they once set free themselues from the streights wherein they are yet incombred they will belieue me domineere most tyrannously The Iesuites seeke also the gouerment of the Colledge at Doway neither feare they any bridle wherewith they can be curbed but only that the Iesuite Rectors should be made subiect to the regular Congregations The Iesuites by their Machiuilian practises go about to procure the dissolution of the Colledge at Doway The tyranny and insolencie of the Iesuites is horrible especially of those that liuing in Belgia do reproch disgrade depriue whome they list and I feare quoth he do indirectly betray some vnto the enemy The Censure of Paris before mentioned for our instification in suspending our obedience to maister Blackwels authoritie vntill we knew his Holynes further pleasure IN the yeare of our Lord 1600. vpon the third day of May it was proposed to the faculty of the Diuines of the Vniuersity of Paris that by the letters of a most illustrious Cardinall an Ecclesiasticall Superior was constituted in a certaine Kingdome with the title and dignity of an Arch-priest to haue authority and iurisdiction ouer all other Priests residing in that Kingdome This Cardinall did also declare in those his letters that he did it according to the wil and good liking of the Pope Notwithstanding many of these Priests refused to subscribe to the authority of the sayd Arch-priest before he had obteyned letters from the Sea Apostolick conteyning the tenor of his confirmation as well because that kind of gouernment was altogether new in Gods Church and hitherto neuer heard of that an Arch-priest should haue charge of a whole Kingdome and such iurisdiction ouer euery Priest in that Realme then also for that it seemed to them by certaine words of the Cardinals letters that the Arch-priest and his authority was graunted by false information then lastly because they noted great partiality in the choyse of the Arch-priest and of his counsellors Vpon which and some other reasons these Priests sent messengers to the Pope for laying open vnto him these their difficulties and therewithall to signifie their greatest readynes as in this matter so euermore in all other to obey his Holynes The Arch-priest and those who are of his side accuse the other Priests of schisme in that they deferred to obey the Cardinals letters which moreouer he sayd were written according to his Holynes minde and pleasure The Question then is whether these Priests be schismaticks and if not whether they did commit at the least some grieuous sinne The head and chiefe men of the faculty of Diuinity in Paris chosen out of the whole company assembled together in the house of the Senior Bedle in the yeare and day aboue written after full and maturest consideration had of the matter gaue this censure First that those Priests who vpon the aboue-named causes deferred to obey were no schismaticks Secondly that they committed no
sinne at all in that fact in it selfe considered By commaundement of our Deane and masters deputed and selected by the whole facultie of Diuinity in Paris De lacourt The rash and vnaduised aunswere of Mayster Blackwell to the Censure of Paris Reuerendi Patres Fratres WHereas after the condemnation at Rome of the two Embassadors together with all their complices here and also the Pope his Breue confirming the Cardinals letters as validas ab initio and vtterly condemning and inualidating all things done to the contrary Some vnquiet persons haue secretly sought to the Vniuersity of Paris and thence pretend to haue or haue receiued a resolution that they neyther incurred schisme nor any sinne in their proceedings here against mine authority Whereas also it is manifest that after notice had from their Ambassadors of the Pope his expresse will made knowne vnto them partly by their imprisonment partly by the testification of the two Cardinals Caietan and Burghesius to whome their cause was committed which also the aforesaid two Ambassadors did certifie hither by their letters exhorting all heere to the quiet acceptance of their superior as being ordayned by his Holynes speciall knowledge and absolute order without dependence of their consent that yet notwithstanding this perfect knowledge they repugned and stood still obstinate in their disobedience so that the pretence of seeking to know the Pope his will was altogether friuolous in those which remayned heere And thereby it appeareth that the information giuen of the cause to the Parisians was altogether wrong and as it may be thought fraudulent For so long as they refused not their superior appoynted by the knowne will of the Pope they neuer were condemned as schismaticks and since and whilest they acknowledged their superior they were neuer censured but only as seditious in opposing against the Pope his order and in disturbing the wished peace and tranquility of the Cleargie and Laity of the Catholicks and yet could neuer be freed from one of these two crimes Propterea In Dei nomine Amen Nos Georgius Blackwellus Archipresbyter Angliae Protonotarius Apostolicus ex authoritate nobis sufficienter legitime commissa praecipimus strictè in virtute obedientia sub poena suspensionis à diuinis amissionis omnium facultatum ipso facto incurrendarum omnibus ecclesiasticis personis omnibus autem laicis Catholicis sub poena interdicti similiter ipso facto incurrendi that neither directly nor indirectly they mayntayne or defend in word or in writing the censure of the Vniuersity of Paris whether it be truly giuen or forged whether vpon true information or otherwise as being preiudiciall to the dignity of the See Apostolicall and expressely contrary to his Holynes Breue and to the sentence iudicially giuen by the two Cardinals appoynted iudges in our cause and to our common peace so much wished for by his Holynes And this we inuiolably commaund to be obserued vnder the paines afore specified and greater also according to his Holynes pleasure Yet hereby we intend in no wise to disgrace the most famous Vniuersity of Paris For we hope verily that eyther there is no such censure of theirs or else that it was procured by wrong informations and without manifesting the sentence of the two Cardinals and the expresse confirmation of his Holynes of those first letters by which our authority was deriued vnto vs which God willing we will speedily procure they shall receiue from the Court of Rome And so nothing doubting of your duties towards your superiors I leaue further to instruct or exhort you beseeching God to blesse vs all 29. May. 1600. Georgius Blackwellus Archipresbyter Angliae Protonotarius Apostolicus Areioynder of Maister Darrell Deane of Agen in defence of the censure of Paris against M. Blackwell Reuerendi Patres Fratres THere is come vnto my hands the sentence of M. George Blackwell Arch-priest in condemnation of the censure and iudgement of the Catholique auncient and renowned Vniuersity of Paris Wherein was also thrust a very peremptory Prouiso but most necessary to auoyd reprehension that no man should vndertake eyther by word or writing to defend the sayd censure I deemed it not impertinent in few words to runne ouer the sayd sentence to shew in part the insufficiencie of it as well for the honor of the sayd sacred faculty of Paris which for the worthy schollers it hath brought forth is highly esteemed throughout all Christendome as for the aduertisement of the abouenamed Arch-priest that he may hereafter be somewhat better aduised ere he thunder out his censures and do not vainely perswade himselfe that he can either tye the toongs or stay the pennes of men by any such vnreasonable writ vnlesse he take some more sober and considerate course of proceeding And for bresities sake to omit the friuolous preambles that are partly vntrue and wholy to small purpose the first of importance is where he sayth That the information giuē vnto the Parisians was altogether wrong and as it may be thought fraudulent His reason is for that they who liked not his election at the first stood still obstinate in their disobedience after perfect notice of the Popes breue in confirmation of it sent them by their Ambassadors who for honors sake you must thinke pardye he alwayes so tearmeth how sound and true this assertion is all England as I think knoweth right well Sure I am the common fame spread in all countryes betwixt England and Rome where the English are resident approued also by sundry letters out of England and from other coasts was and is cleane contrary viz. that they who before suspended their iudgements attending his Holynes resolution as soone as they were by the Popes breue certified of his pleasure submitted themselues to the Arch-priest and acknowledged his authority And that I stay not about needlesse proofes in so notorious a matter the very next words after in this his rescript declare as much Mary I must needs confesse that they are so clarkly and clea●ely set downe that they may perhaps couer some pretie equiuocation These be his words For so long as they refused not their superior appoynted by the knowne will of the Pope they were neuer condemned as schismaticks and since whilest they acknowledged their superior they were neuer censured but only as seditious in opposing against the Popes order c. The sense in common vnderstanding must needs be that at first so long as they had not certaine notice by the Popes breue of his will and therefore refused to accept the new Magistrate they were not condemned as schismaticks Afterward they vnderstanding of the Breue acknowledged their superior and therefore were not censured as schismaticks but only as seditious By the latter part of which sentence it is most euident and cleare by his owne expresse declaration that after certaine knowledge of the Popes commaundement they acknowledged their superior and therefore were not censured but only as seditious
content to eate and drinke with vs still for assure your selfe we will neuer yeeld that you should haue any seuerall roomes graunted vnto you thereby to seuer your selues from vs. And so after many other speeches for that time they parted When maister Bluet had imparted vnto vs the sayd message and his sayd discourse with Fa. Weston it did very much grieue vs all as foreseeing what publick scandale it would grow vnto and therefore diuers of vs dealt with them particularly that they would desist from that their purpose and be content that we might liue together still like prisoners and louing brethren as we haue done before But all was in vaine they inlarged their calumniation and slauders of vs and began to spread the same abroad to our great discredits and would in no wise be stayed from the course they had begun Howbeit we hindered as long as we could their publick separation from vs by keeping our old places some of vs at euery table so as they could not choose except they would haue forborne their dinners and suppers but that they must needs sit amongst vs. Whereupon Fa. Weston sent the sayd Southworth to our keeper with the like message in effect to the former concerning their intent for the auoyding of sinne to keepe commons by themselues apart from the rest and therefore to intreate him that they might haue a roome assigned them to make a Kitchin of and some other places meete and conuenient for them offering him some large consideration for his good will therein But he consulting with some of the grauer sort disliked their attempt and reiecting their suite commaunded them to continue in peace and quietnes as the State had appointed and as he found them at his first comming to be their keeper vnlesse they could shew vnto him against the rest some capitall crimes which might warrant him to graunt their separation for sayd he I am a Iustice of peace qualifyed to take notice of such crimes To whom maister Southworth answered that in this case the Queene could not make him a competent iudge and that the crymes were such and so great as in conscience they could not keepe company with vs. Why sayd maister Medlye what crymes are those so horrible that the Queenes authority cannot reach to take knowledge of Maister Bluet can tell you sayth maister Southworth for I haue signifyed them vnto him Very well quoth maister Bluet I see the old prouerb verified now in you An English man Italionate is a Diuell incarnate If you told me the causes why Weston and you do attempt to make this schisme and diuision in the house why may not your slaundering toong vtter the same to maister Medlye our keeper Must I be your Bedle to proclayme your lyes But maister Medly this Italionated company on hath this craft in his budget if I should now relate vnto you what he hath told me of this matter then would he being meerely Iesuited deny it and so turne the blame vpon me that I telling it you publickly do slaunder the house and not he nor his fellowes that told it but secretly Vpon this and such like communication maister Medlye fell to the commendation of the quiet behauior of those prisoners which were first sent to Wisbich saying that it was nothing but the turbulent spirits and humour of youth that wanting due wisdome discretion and grauitie thrust them into these noueltyes Much iangling they kept both at this time and afterwards for seuerall roomes but fayling of their desire therein they grew to a great dislike with the keeper and to be reuenged vpon him procured in short time two Priests to escape from him out of prison which they knew would grieue him much Besides the ordinary Chappell belonging to the Bishop of Ely lying fitly by them they aduentured of themselues to dedicate the same to Bacchus for their Buttery and entertayning an other Brewer one Palmer laid such Beere in it as they thought meete It is not almost credible what brablings were about these matters and with what malice and impietie they did also prosecute vs by seeking to blemish our good names as though they had quite forgot that we were Catholick Priests and their fellow prisoners The common enemy could not haue vsed vs much more despitefully By this time Fa. Garnet hauing perused the sayd rules and letter returned his approbation of them in a generall letter to that company and alluding to a point mentioned in their letter to him commaunded his subiect Fa. Weston as an hypocriticall paralytick to take vp his bed and walke that is he gaue him leaue to accept of the Agency imposed forsooth by them vpon him but vnder-hand sent to Fa. Weston himselfe a priuate letter wherein he admonished him in any sort so to take vpon him that his new Prelacy as both his the layd fathers name for auoyding of enuy might be concealed and that it might seeme to proceede wholy from the importunity of those that had chosen him All these particulars were at this time vnknowne vnto vs they played fast and loose in corners as you see buying and selling of vs as honest men as themselues at their pleasures Whilest they were thus in this garboyle with vs animated therein by Fa. Garnet it hapned that maister Dolman a graue Priest came to Wisbich with some contribution for the whole company who perceiuing and lamēting what a breach he found of our auncient vnity did endeuor for the space almost of a weeke to haue reduced vs thereunto againe being earnestly desired by vs all so to do At this his being there maister Southworth drew him with importunitie into his chamber and did shew vnto him their foresayd letter and rules which they had sent to Fa. Garnet entring into a long discourse with him concerning their purpose to separate themselues from vs. Whereunto maister Dolman aunswering that in so doing they would assuredly be the occasion of great scandale he replyed that their company were resolute to go through with it We had heard before of the sayd letter and rules sent to Fa. Garnet but as we then told M. Dolman we could neuer come to the sight of them and therefore we desired him to be a meanes that we might haue the perusing of them Whereunto he did very willingly yeeld as thinking our motion therein very reasonable and thereupon going to maister Southworth he so preuayled with him as that he the sayd maister Dolman brought them vnto vs which when we had read we were much perplexed finding our credits to be greatly touched by them Howbeit maister Doctor Bagshaw in a very mild and charitable sort did then desire maister Dolman that by his mediation he might haue conference with Fa. VVeston promising that he would be a meanes that this controuersie should be ended to his honor credit and to a further increase of amity and charity then euer there had bin for a long time amongst vs. Maister Dolman being a glad man