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A20733 A defence of the sermon preached at the consecration of the L. Bishop of Bath and VVelles against a confutation thereof by a namelesse author. Diuided into 4. bookes: the first, prouing chiefly that the lay or onely-gouerning elders haue no warrant either in the Scriptures or other monuments of antiquity. The second, shewing that the primitiue churches indued with power of ecclesiasticall gouernment, were not parishes properly but dioceses, and consequently that the angels of the churches or ancient bishops were not parishionall but diocesan bishops. The third, defending the superioritie of bishops aboue other ministers, and prouing that bishops alwayes had a prioritie not onely in order, but also in degree, and a maioritie of power both for ordination and iurisdiction. The fourth, maintayning that the episcopall function is of apostolicall and diuine institution. Downame, George, d. 1634. 1611 (1611) STC 7115; ESTC S110129 556,406 714

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clerun_v which_o be_v translate_v inheritance_n the_o sacred_a company_n even_o as_o we_o now_o also_o do_v call_v it_o that_o be_v to_o say_v the_o clergy_n which_o exposition_n if_o we_o follow_v than_o those_o presbyter_n to_o who_o peter_n write_v prescribe_v unto_o they_o how_o they_o shall_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d that_o be_v say_v calvin_n episcopatu_fw-la fungi_fw-la exercise_v the_o office_n of_o a_o bishop_n and_o note_v their_o authority_n over_o the_o clergy_n be_v such_o as_o we_o call_v bishop_n but_o of_o that_o by_o the_o way_n now_o if_o the_o presbyter_n act_n 20._o be_v minister_n and_o teacher_n as_o i_o have_v prove_v and_o as_o all_o writer_n almost_o even_o those_o that_o be_v party_n in_o the_o cause_n do_v teach_v then_o by_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d we_o be_v to_o understand_v the_o duty_n of_o feed_v p●_n which_o belong_v to_o pastor_n and_o teacher_n and_o will_v never_o be_v prove_v to_o belong_v to_o lay-elder_n the_o refuter_fw-la have_v with_o such_o success_n as_o you_o see_v endeavour_v to_o maintain_v sec●_n that_o the_o presbyter_n act._n 20._o be_v as_o well_o lay-elder_n as_o minister_n and_o that_o the_o duty_n both_o general_a of_o attend_v to_o themselves_o &_o the_o whole_a flock_n and_o also_o special_a of_o feed_v the_o church_n be_v require_v as_o common_a to_o minister_n with_o lay-elder_n which_o assertion_n i_o have_v confute_v with_o evidence_n of_o truth_n in_o this_o exposition_n or_o opposition_n rather_o he_o do_v so_o please_v himself_o as_o that_o he_o doubt_v not_o to_o retort_v my_o syllogism_n upon_o i_o after_o this_o manner_n if_o the_o presbyter_n speak_v of_o act_n 20_o 28_o be_v not_o only_a minister_n but_o govern_v elder_n also_o and_o the_o same_o with_o those_o 1._o tim_n 5.17_o than_o the_o presbyter_n speak_v of_o 1._o tim._n 5.17_o be_v not_o only_a minister_n but_o govern_v elder_n also_o but_o the_o presbyter_n speak_v of_o act_n 20_o 28_o be_v not_o only_a minister_n but_o 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maintain_v the_o three_o reason_n that_o lay-elder_n be_v not_o mention_v nor_o mean_v 1._o tim._n 5.17_o serm._n sect._n 5._o pag._n 11._o and_o that_o he_o speak_v not_o there_o of_o lay_v or_o only_o governing-elders_a it_o may_v further_o be_v prove_v by_o plain_a evidence_n out_o of_o the_o text_n for_o see_v by_o honour_n in_o that_o place_n the_o apostle_n understand_v honourable_a maintenance_n which_o by_o their_o own_o confession_n be_v not_o due_a to_o lay-elder_n it_o be_v therefore_o certain_a that_o this_o place_n acknowledge_v none_o such_o thus_o therefore_o i_o argue_v to_o all_o those_o elder_n who_o be_v mention_v or_o mean_v in_o this_o place_n the_o honour_n of_o maintenance_n be_v due_a for_o their_o work_n sake_n to_o the_o lay-elder_n the_o honour_n of_o maintenance_n be_v not_o due_a for_o their_o work_n sake_n therefore_o the_o lay-elder_n be_v not_o mention_v nor_o mean_v in_o this_o place_n &c_n &c_n to_o pag._n 13._o 29._o the_o refuter_fw-la have_v neither_o learning_n enough_o to_o bear_v the_o weight_n of_o this_o argument_n nor_o wit_n enough_o to_o forbear_v it_o in_o answer_v thereto_o he_o utter_v more_o gall_n than_o will_v well_o become_v a_o honest_a man_n the_o virus_fw-la and_o poison_n of_o his_o libel_v speech_n i_o leave_v to_o himself_o the_o vir●s_n and_o force_v of_o his_o argument_n and_o answer_n i_o will_v take_v upon_o i_o plain_o to_o confute_v and_o both_o here_o and_o every_o where_o else_o by_o the_o help_n of_o god_n to_o put_v he_o to_o silence_n first_o as_o his_o manner_n be_v though_o he_o dare_v not_o deny_v the_o proposition_n of_o my_o syllogism_n to_o be_v most_o true_a and_o undoubted_a prop_n yet_o he_o must_v needs_o cavil_v with_o it_o and_o because_o he_o have_v nothing_o to_o say_v against_o it_o he_o hope_v with_o it_o to_o wound_v some_o of_o our_o side_n who_o among_o other_o interpretation_n of_o this_o place_n have_v think_v the_o former_a part_n of_o this_o text_n may_v more_o 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the_o name_n of_o deacon_n to_o understand_v your_o lay-elder_n though_o t.c._n himself_o do_v subscribe_v to_o his_o opinion_n and_o whereas_o you_o challenge_v those_o reverend_a man_n for_o seek_v by_o warrant_n of_o this_o place_n to_o surcharge_n the_o church_n with_o maintenance_n of_o unpreach_v minister_n and_o deacon_n i_o answer_v they_o do_v not_o hold_v that_o in_o every_o parish_n such_o aught_o to_o be_v maintain_v as_o you_o will_v have_v your_o presbytery_n erect_v in_o every_o parish_n but_o where_o better_a &_o more_o sufficient_a minister_n can_v be_v have_v which_o be_v the_o case_n of_o many_o parish_n in_o england_n at_o the_o begin_n of_o q._n elizabeth_n reign_n etc._n etc._n but_o all_o his_o spite_n be_v against_o the_o assumption_n assumption_n though_o he_o spend_v his_o spite_n neither_o in_o disproove_v it_o with_o force_n of_o argument_n nor_o in_o answer_v my_o proof_n with_o any_o substance_n of_o reason_n but_o in_o sophistical_a cavil_v &_o odious_a 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quique_fw-la seniores_fw-la the_o approve_a senior_n be_v president_n 39_o three_o of_o clement_n jacob_n in_o his_o epistle_n to_o james_n translate_v by_o rufinus_n &_o cite_v by_o gratian_n if_o any_o of_o the_o brethren_n have_v saint_n let_v they_o not_o be_v judge_v by_o secular_a judge_n sed_fw-la apud_fw-la presbyteros_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la quicquid_fw-la illud_fw-la est_fw-la dirimatur_fw-la 8._o but_o before_o the_o presbyter_n of_o the_o church_n let_v the_o cause_n be_v decide_v &_o to_o their_o determination_n let_v the_o party_n stand_v four_o of_o jerome_n presbyter_n say_v he_o mean_v minister_n who_o he_o also_o call_v priest_n and_o attribute_v to_o they_o the_o ministry_n of_o the_o word_n and_o sacrament_n from_o the_o beginning_n be_v appoint_v judge_n of_o cause_n etc._n etc._n and_o to_o the_o same_o purpose_n the_o author_n of_o the_o century_n time_n testify_v that_o the_o presbyter_n beside_o that_o they_o teach_v the_o people_n do_v also_o compound_v suit_n and_o controversy_n now_o that_o their_o advice_n be_v much_o neglect_v and_o themselves_o but_o too_o much_o deject_v by_o the_o bishop_n in_o ambrose_n his_o time_n appear_v not_o only_o by_o he_o but_o also_o by_o jeromes_n nepotianum_fw-la complaint_n likewise_o by_o diverse_a canon_n in_o the_o four_o council_n of_o carthage_n 4._o hold_v about_o the_o year_n 401_o wherein_n it_o be_v decree_v 22._o that_o the_o bishop_n without_o the_o assembly_n of_o his_o clergy_n shall_v not_o ordain_v clerk_n &_o that_o in_o the_o 3._o ordination_n of_o a_o presbyter_n the_o presbyter_n also_o which_o be_v present_a shall_v with_o the_o bishop_n impose_v their_o hand_n that_o the_o b_o 23._o shall_v not_o determine_v any_o man_n cause_n but_o in_o the_o presence_n of_o his_o clergy_n that_o he_o 32._o may_v not_o alienate_v or_o sell_v the_o good_n or_o possession_n of_o the_o church_n without_o the_o consent_n of_o his_o clergy_n that_o the_o bishop_n 35._o though_o in_o the_o church_n and_o in_o the_o assembly_n of_o the_o presbyter_n aught_o to_o sit_v in_o a_o high_a place_n yet_o private_o he_o shall_v use_v the_o presbyter_n as_o his_o colleague_n and_o sit_v himself_o shall_v not_o suffer_v a_o presbyter_n to_o stand_v that_o 39_o the_o deacon_n shall_v acknowledge_v themselves_o to_o be_v minister_n to_o the_o presbyter_n as_o well_o as_o to_o the_o bishop_n &_o that_o if_o the_o presbyter_n bid_v they_o they_o may_v sit_v in_o their_o presence_n which_o otherwise_o they_o may_v not_o 18._o do_v all_o these_o thing_n consider_v together_o with_o that_o which_o before_o have_v be_v allege_v to_o prove_v that_o there_o be_v never_o any_o lay-elder_n do_v necessary_o evince_v that_o there_o be_v no_o reason_n to_o imagine_v if_o doctorum_fw-la signify_v doctor_n or_o teacher_n lay-elder_n to_o be_v mean_v by_o senior_n in_o this_o place_n and_o so_o much_o of_o the_o exposition_n of_o this_o place_n according_a to_o the_o former_a sense_n of_o the_o word_n 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be_v use_v and_o whereby_o the_o church_n have_v be_v govern_v who_o see_v not_o that_o it_o be_v the_o neglect_n of_o the_o minister_n advise_v whereof_o ambrose_n complain_v 2._o yea_o but_o jerome_n 3_o say_v we_o also_o in_o the_o church_n have_v senatum_fw-la nostrum_fw-la ●●tum_fw-la presbyterorum_fw-la our_o senate_n a_o company_n of_o presbyter_n which_o testimony_n be_v wont_a to_o be_v allege_v to_o prove_v that_o in_o jeromes_n time_n there_o be_v a_o presbytery_n of_o lay-elder_n but_o here_o my_o adversary_n presuppose_v that_o lay-elder_n be_v grow_v out_o of_o use_n in_o ambrose_n his_o time_n who_o t_o c_o suppose_v to_o have_v continue_v diverse_a hundred_o year_n after_o ambrose_n bring_v it_o to_o prove_v that_o in_o jeromes_n time_n who_o be_v almost_o as_o ancient_a as_o ambrose_n there_o be_v a_o senate_n of_o minister_n which_o no_o man_n doubt_v of_o for_o elsewhere_o he_o say_v ecclesia_fw-la the_o church_n have_v a_o senate_n a_o company_n of_o presbyter_n without_o who_o counsel_n the_o monk_n may_v do_v nothing_o and_o not_o only_o in_o jeromes_n time_n the_o church_n have_v but_o in_o all_o age_n since_o even_o to_o this_o day_n it_o have_v such_o a_o senate_n which_o in_o latter_a time_n have_v call_v capitulum_n the_o chapter_n howbeit_o both_o in_o ambrose_n his_o time_n and_o since_o the_o advice_n and_o assistance_n thereof_o notwithstanding_o the_o decree_n of_o the_o four_o counsel_n of_o carthage_n have_v be_v though_o in_o some_o thing_n even_o to_o this_o day_n use_v yet_o in_o the_o most_o thing_n and_o for_o the_o most_o part_n neglect_v his_o three_o testimony_n which_o he_o say_v be_v plain_a enough_o of_o the_o say_a jerome_n eccl._n cite_v in_o the_o canon_n law_n be_v also_o plain_a against_o he_o for_o have_v say_v as_o even_o now_o i_o allege_v he_o that_o the_o presbyter_n from_o the_o beginning_n have_v be_v appoint_v to_o hear_v and_o judge_v cause_n as_o the_o bishop_n assistant_n he_o prove_v it_o because_o they_o also_o in_o the_o scripture_n be_v call_v bishop_n howsoever_o now_o the_o bishop_n envy_v they_o that_o dignity_n etc._n etc._n 23._o his_o 4._o testimony_n be_v the_o 23._o canon_n of_o the_o council_n of_o carthage_n which_o even_o now_o i_o cite_v which_o make_v against_o he_o rather_o than_o for_o he_o for_o see_v good_a law_n arise_v from_o bad_a manner_n it_o be_v to_o be_v imagine_v that_o according_a to_o the_o complaint_n of_o ambrose_n and_o jerome_n who_o be_v somewhat_o before_o this_o council_n the_o presence_n of_o the_o clergy_n and_o stant_fw-la assistance_n of_o the_o presbyter_n be_v neglect_v and_o that_o this_o neglect_n give_v occasion_n to_o the_o make_n of_o that_o canon_n his._n 5._o testimony_n be_v of_o d._n bilson_n though_o he_o name_v also_o another_o learned_a man_n only_o to_o abuse_v he_o howbeit_o 11.160_o d._n bilson_n understand_v ambrose_n as_o complain_v of_o the_o bishop_n of_o his_o time_n who_o while_o they_o will_v seem_v to_o rule_v alone_o have_v exclude_v or_o neglect_v the_o aid_n &_o counsel_n of_o their_o brother_n of_o the_o clergy_n who_o be_v wont_a to_o advise_v and_o assist_v they_o as_o well_o in_o doctrine_n as_o in_o discipline_n and_o whereas_o in_o the_o second_o place_n he_o reply_v that_o slothfulness_n and_o pride_n must_v needs_o be_v refer_v to_o the_o same_o person_n and_o not_o slothfulness_n to_o presbyter_n presbyter_n and_o pride_n to_o bb_v i_o answer_v that_o if_o doctorum_fw-la be_v a_o common_a title_n to_o both_o as_o it_o be_v if_o it_o signify_v learn_v and_o if_o the_o slothfulness_n of_o the_o presbyter_n rather_o than_o of_o the_o bb._n be_v as_o like_v almost_o to_o be_v the_o cause_n why_o their_o assistance_n grow_v out_o of_o use_n as_o the_o pride_n of_o the_o bb_n then_o be_v there_o no_o necessity_n that_o slothfulness_n and_o pride_n shall_v both_o be_v attribute_v to_o the_o bishop_n but_o rather_o it_o be_v very_o likely_a that_o slothfulness_n be_v impute_v to_o
conclusion_n labour_v as_o we_o say_v clawm_fw-la clavo_fw-la pellere_fw-la and_o undertake_v to_o make_v i_o see_v if_o i_o will_v not_o shut_v my_o eye_n the_o contradictory_n of_o that_o conclusion_n to_o be_v true_a which_o notwithstanding_o can_v be_v false_a the_o premise_n be_v true_a and_o first_o he_o deny_v that_o ambrose_n speak_v by_o guess_n as_o i_o say_v but_o certaien_o and_o upon_o knowledge_n when_o ambrose_n his_o express_a word_n be_v these_o quod_fw-la qua_fw-la negligentia_fw-la obsoleverit_fw-la nescio_fw-la nisi_fw-la forte_fw-fr &c_n &c_n which_o by_o what_o negligence_n it_o be_v grow_v out_o of_o use_n i_o know_v not_o 44._o unless_o perhaps_o by_o the_o slothfulness_n etc._n etc._n 2._o he_o say_v it_o may_v be_v a_o matter_n of_o slothfulness_n in_o the_o bb_n to_o suffer_v the_o senior_n to_o neglect_v their_o duty_n but_o not_o to_o their_o own_o so_o great_a trouble_n will_v m_n d._n say_v we_o may_v believe_v he_o if_o we_o see_v not_o pride_n drive_v man_n to_o undertake_v more_o than_o they_o either_o need_v to_o be_v charge_v with_o or_o be_v able_a to_o wield_v then_o be_v it_o not_o their_o slothfulness_n belike_o that_o cause_v they_o to_o take_v the_o whole_a burden_n upon_o themselves_o but_o their_o pride_n which_o make_v they_o wink_v at_o the_o senior_n slothfulness_n as_o give_v way_n to_o their_o own_o ambition_n three_o he_o say_v the_o bishop_n may_v provide_v for_o their_o own_o ease_n by_o put_v off_o the_o burden_n to_o their_o chancellor_n commissary_n official_o etc._n &c_n &c_n &_o therefore_o it_o may_v be_v impute_v to_o they_o as_o a_o matter_n of_o sloth_n or_o idleness_n &_o pride_n to_o and_o so_o the_o word_n doctorum_fw-la right_o expound_v for_o pastor_n of_o parish_n alone_o and_o not_o to_o diocesan_n bishop_n as_o though_o their_o parish-bishop_n be_v more_o likely_a to_o have_v have_v chancellor_n &c_n &c_n then_o diocesan_n bb_n but_o i_o answer_v 1._o the_o question_n be_v not_o what_o they_o may_v have_v do_v but_o what_o they_o do_v now_o it_o be_v evident_a that_o in_o ambrose_n his_o time_n and_o a_o good_a while_n after_o till_o the_o presbytery_n be_v in_o a_o manner_n whole_o neglect_v the_o bishop_n have_v not_o ordinary_a vicar_n or_o chancellor_n or_o ordinary_a commissary_n which_o be_v not_o of_o the_o clergy_n but_o what_o they_o do_v without_o the_o advice_n of_o their_o senior_n they_o perform_v ordinary_o in_o their_o own_o person_n or_o else_o extraordinary_o delegated_a the_o same_o to_o some_o of_o special_a trust_n in_o some_o case_n it_o be_v evident_a that_o both_o then_o and_o long_o after_o they_o use_v the_o assistance_n of_o their_o presbytery_n as_o in_o the_o judgement_n of_o heresy_n or_o for_o depose_v of_o a_o clergy_n man_n etc._n etc._n siricius_n the_o b._n of_o rome_n in_o a_o epistle_n 80._o to_o ambrose_n denounce_v jovinian_a auxentius_n etc._n etc._n for_o heretic_n show_v that_o for_o their_o trial_n his_o whole_a presbytery_n have_v be_v assemble_v and_o say_v that_o by_o the_o common_a consent_n of_o his_o whole_a clergy_n they_o be_v condemn_v for_o heretic_n the_o 4._o council_n of_o carthage_n 23._o as_o you_o hear_v ordain_v that_o the_o bishop_n shall_v hear_v man_n cause_n in_o the_o presence_n of_o his_o clergy_n the_o 2._o council_n of_o tower_n decree_v 7._o that_o a_o bishop_n may_v not_o depose_v a_o archpresbyter_n without_o the_o counsel_n of_o all_o his_o compresbyter_n but_o who_o negligence_n cast_v out_o let_v he_o with_o the_o counsel_n of_o the_o presbyter_n be_v remove_v the_o council_n of_o carthage_n 8._o appoint_v that_o in_o the_o cause_n of_o a_o presbyter_n six_o and_o of_o a_o deacon_n three_o bishop_n shall_v be_v join_v with_o their_o own_o bishop_n because_o as_o the_o council_n of_o civil_a 6._o determine_v one_o bishop_n may_v to_o priest_n and_o minister_n that_o be_v presbyter_n &_o deacon_n give_v their_o honour_n but_o one_o alone_o may_v not_o take_v it_o from_o they_o but_o in_o the_o cause_n of_o inferior_a clergy_n man_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o bishop_n alone_o of_o the_o place_n shall_v hear_v and_o determine_v it_o viz._n in_o the_o presence_n of_o his_o clergy_n according_a to_o the_o aforesaid_a 23._o canon_n of_o the_o four_o council_n of_o carthage_n but_o as_o in_o some_o case_n they_o use_v the_o counsel_n of_o the_o presbyteri_fw-la so_o in_o other_o they_o do_v for_o the_o most_o part_n undergo_v the_o whole_a burden_n themselves_o for_o the_o proof_n whereof_o the_o example_n of_o ambrose_n and_o augustine_n may_v suffice_v for_o ambrose_n be_v so_o occupy_v in_o hear_v and_o determine_v man_n cause_n that_o he_o have_v so_o little_a time_n leave_v he_o for_o his_o corporal_a repast_n or_o spiritual_a study_n that_o augustine_n 3._o can_v never_o find_v he_o at_o leisure_n to_o break_v his_o mind_n unto_o he_o and_o augustine_n teneor_fw-la be_v so_o encumber_v with_o hear_v of_o cause_n that_o scarce_o he_o can_v have_v the_o 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557._o who_o succeed_v chrysostome_n in_o the_o bishopric_n of_o constantinople_n the_o protopresbyter_n there_o in_o latin_a most_o usual_o archipresbyter_n as_o 10._o histor_n tripat_v lib._n 10._o c._n 10._o and_o in_o the_o four_o council_n of_o carthage_n 17_o where_o it_o be_v decree_v that_o the_o bishop_n shall_v take_v care_n of_o widow_n orphan_n &_o stranger_n not_o by_o himself_o but_o by_o his_o archpresbyter_n or_o by_o his_o archdeacon_n jerome_n 46._o show_v that_o in_o each_o society_n there_o be_v some_o one_o ruler_n say_v singuli_fw-la ecclesiarum_fw-la episcopi_fw-la singuli_fw-la archipresbyteri_fw-la singuli_fw-la archdiaconi_fw-la the_o church_n have_v each_o of_o they_o one_o bishop_n one_o archpresbyter_n on_o archdeacon_n in_o process_n of_o time_n they_o be_v call_v decani_fw-la archipresbyteri_fw-la 7._o a_o pluribus_fw-la decani_fw-la nuncupantur_fw-la archpresbyter_n of_o the_o most_o be_v call_v dean_n neither_o be_v there_o only_a archpresbyter_n and_o 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〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 22._o civitatense_n presbyteri_fw-la the_o presbyter_n of_o the_o city_n seniores_fw-la 39_o by_o tertullian_n and_o ambrose_n 5.1_o in_o the_o place_n allege_v the_o ancient_a council_n of_o ancyra_n have_v pronounce_v it_o unlawful_a for_o the_o chorepiscopi_fw-la or_o country_n bishop_n to_o ordain_v presbyter_n or_o deacon_n add_v 13._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d neither_o yet_o be_v it_o lawful_a for_o the_o presbyter_n of_o the_o city_n whereby_o it_o may_v in_o part_n appear_v what_o be_v the_o estimation_n of_o the_o presbyter_n of_o the_o city_n in_o comparison_n of_o the_o country_n bishop_n but_o as_o the_o archipresbyteri_n in_o latter_a time_n be_v call_v decani_fw-la so_o these_o presbyter_n of_o the_o city_n be_v in_o process_n of_o time_n call_v canonici_fw-la &_o prebendarij_fw-la and_o the_o company_n of_o they_o which_o have_v be_v call_v presbyterium_fw-la be_v term_v capitulum_fw-la in_o english_a chapter_n calvin_n 5._o say_v presbyteri_fw-la 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authority_n over_o they_o or_o reprove_v for_o suffer_v they_o and_o if_o they_o be_v not_o presbyter_n because_o they_o call_v themselves_o apostles_n be_v like_a they_o be_v better_a man_n be_v it_o not_o then_o against_o sense_n to_o deny_v that_o presbyter_n be_v subject_a to_o the_o censure_n of_o the_o bishop_n because_o he_o imagine_v these_o who_o be_v subject_a to_o their_o censure_n be_v better_a man_n whatsoever_o they_o be_v whether_o presbyter_n or_o in_o a_o high_a degree_n whether_o of_o the_o bishop_n presbytery_n or_o not_o whether_o of_o his_o diocese_n original_o or_o come_v from_o other_o place_n it_o be_v plain_a that_o they_o be_v teacher_n and_o that_o be_v in_o their_o diocese_n the_o bishop_n have_v authority_n either_o to_o suffer_v they_o to_o preach_v or_o to_o inhibit_v they_o to_o retain_v they_o in_o the_o communion_n of_o their_o church_n or_o to_o expel_v they_o my_o other_o reason_n that_o bb._n have_v corrective_a power_n over_o the_o presbyter_n be_v because_o timothe_n and_o titus_n have_v such_o power_n over_o the_o presbyter_n of_o ephesus_n and_o crect_n as_o i_o prove_v by_o most_o evident_a testimony_n out_o of_o paul_n epistle_n 1.5_o write_v to_o they_o 1.3.5.19.20.21.22.6.14_o and_o epiphanius_n 75._o his_o inference_n on_o these_o word_n to_o timothe_n against_o a_o presbyter_n receive_v not_o thou_o a_o accusation_n but_o under_o two_o or_o three_o witness_n etc._n etc._n therefore_o say_v he_o presbyter_n be_v imperium_fw-la subject_a to_o the_o b._n as_o to_o their_o judge_n to_o my_o inference_n out_o of_o s._n paul_n he_o answer_v that_o timothe_n and_o titus_n be_v not_o bb._n and_o that_o i_o shall_v never_o prove_v they_o be_v i_o desire_v therefore_o the_o reader_n to_o suspend_v his_o judgement_n until_o he_o come_v to_o the_o proof_n on_o both_o side_n and_o if_o he_o shall_v not_o find_v my_o proof_n for_o their_o be_v bb._n to_o be_v better_a than_o he_o to_o the_o contrary_a let_v he_o believe_v i_o in_o nothing_o in_o the_o mean_a time_n let_v he_o know_v that_o if_o the_o general_a consent_n of_o the_o ancient_a father_n deserve_v any_o credit_n for_o a_o matter_n of_o fact_n then_o must_v it_o be_v grant_v that_o timothe_n and_o titus_n be_v bishop_n against_o epiphanius_n he_o object_v that_o he_o take_v for_o grant_v that_o which_o aerius_n constant_o deny_v but_o this_o be_v one_o of_o his_o presumptuous_a and_o malapeit_a conceit_n for_o when_o epiphanius_n prove_v against_o aerius_n that_o bishop_n be_v superior_a to_o other_o presbyter_n because_o timothe_n be_v take_v it_o for_o grant_v that_o timothe_n be_v a_o bishop_n what_o moderate_a or_o reasonable_a man_n will_v think_v otherwise_o but_o that_o this_o assertion_n that_o timothe_n be_v a_o bishop_n be_v such_o a_o receive_a truth_n as_o he_o know_v aërius_n himself_o will_v not_o deny_v it_o serm._n sect_n 12._o pag._n 50._o but_o consider_v also_o the_o presbyter_n as_o sever_v in_o place_n from_o the_o bishop_n cure_n and_o affix_v to_o their_o several_a cure_n etc._n etc._n to_o offender_n pag._n 52._o my_o first_o argument_n to_o prove_v the_o jurisdiction_n of_o bishop_n over_o presbyter_n assign_v to_o their_o several_a cure_n be_v that_o when_o any_o place_n in_o the_o country_n be_v void_a the_o bishop_n assign_v a_o presbyter_n to_o they_o out_o of_o his_o presbytery_n which_o as_o have_v be_v say_v before_o calvin_n confess_v and_o be_v a_o evident_a argument_n as_o to_o prove_v the_o jurisdiction_n of_o the_o bishop_n over_o the_o country_n parish_n and_o presbyter_n thereof_o so_o to_o demonstrate_v that_o the_o bishop_n be_v diocesan_n this_o reason_n because_o he_o can_v not_o answer_v he_o will_v as_o his_o manner_n be_v persuade_v the_o reader_n that_o it_o be_v needless_a second_o i_o allege_v that_o these_o presbyter_n may_v do_v nothing_o but_o by_o authority_n from_o the_o bishop_n from_o who_o they_o have_v their_o jurisdiction_n and_o therefore_o be_v subject_a to_o he_o as_o their_o ruler_n three_o 103._o that_o they_o be_v subject_a to_o his_o judgement_n and_o censure_n these_o two_o point_n with_o their_o proof_n he_o pass_v over_o as_o if_o he_o make_v haste_n to_o the_o reason_n follow_v which_o he_o suppose_v to_o be_v the_o weak_a for_o this_o be_v his_o manner_n to_o pass_v by_o in_o brevity_n or_o in_o silence_n the_o best_a proof_n and_o if_o he_o meet_v with_o any_o thing_n which_o seem_v to_o he_o weak_a than_o the_o rest_n there_o he_o rest_v like_o a●lie_n in_o a_o raw_a place_n but_o by_o his_o leave_n i_o will_v insist_v a_o little_a on_o these_o two_o point_n and_o first_o for_o the_o former_a point_n in_o general_a the_o ancient_a council_n of_o laodicea_n have_v ordain_v that_o country_n bishop_n may_v do_v nothing_o without_o the_o consent_n of_o the_o b._n in_o the_o city_n in_o like_a manner_n command_v the_o presbyter_n 57_o to_o do_v nothing_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d without_o the_o consent_n of_o the_o b._n the_o same_o have_v damasus_n chorepiscopis_fw-la who_o have_v speak_v of_o country_n bishop_n in_o like_a manner_n say_v this_o must_v be_v hold_v concern_v presbyter_n ut_fw-la sine_fw-la iussu_fw-la proprij_fw-la episcopi_fw-la nihilagant_a that_o they_o do_v nothing_o without_o the_o commandment_n of_o their_o own_o b._n to_o omit_v those_o action_n that_o belong_v to_o the_o power_n of_o order_n which_o i_o have_v already_o prove_v they_o can_v not_o perform_v without_o licence_n and_o authority_n from_o the_o bishop_n consider_v how_o in_o respect_n of_o their_o person_n those_o of_o the_o clergy_n be_v subject_a to_o the_o bishop_n to_o be_v dispose_v by_o he_o first_o he_o have_v authority_n to_o promote_v they_o from_o one_o degree_n to_o another_o as_o he_o see_v cause_n insomuch_o 56._o that_o if_o they_o refuse_v to_o be_v promote_v by_o he_o they_o be_v to_o loose_v that_o degree_n from_o which_o they_o will_v not_o be_v remove_v second_o they_o may_v not_o remove_v 27._o from_o one_o 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