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A19153 A sermon preached at Paules-Crosse, vpon the 1. of Nouember, being All-Saints Day, anno 1607. By Sa: Collins, Batchelour in Diuinitie, and fellow of the Kings Colledge in Cambridge Collins, Samuel, 1576-1651. 1607 (1607) STC 5564; ESTC S108507 41,043 100

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by his blessed presence thought it no disparagement to his sole law-giuing John 10.22 The Musicke of the Temple that Dauid brought in we read it approoued wee neuer read it commaunded What some thinke they maie gather out of obscure consequences I regarde not a rush If euer it come to triall I can saie as much why Dauid should doo it of his owne head as by anie speciall commaundement for ought that appears by Scripture Yet the high Lawe-giuer was not displeased with it And if happilie these men had beene by the same Dauid when he danced naked before the Arke they would haue greatlie blamed him for bringing a nevv seruice into the Church for somuch as dancing was no where prescribed and chid him for affecting nakedness in Gods worship which they might doo with better colour than they can chide vs for our apparell So is our case one with the Fathers so are the actions of the greatest Patriarches subiect to the same reprehension of the scornefull that our practices are heer at home and the Land is not yet rid of her Micholls Ionadab the sonne of Rechab interdicted his sonnes the vse of wine for all their life time and God commended his seuere Law-giuing Yet Jonadabs authority came short of the roiall and we haue no such strictness enioined vs as is the abstinence of wine for a mans whole life time The brasen Serpent was Gods ovvn ordinance Ezechias as King brake it in pieces when he savv cause No direction from God no entercourse of the Prophets moouing him thereto yet his fact is famous throughout all posterities Lo the weapon that they thrust at vs so often in vain mortally retorted vpō their own brests Lastly the K. of Nineueh cloathed cattle in sackcloth a thing more monstrous vncouth to behold than anie surplice vpon a mans backe Yea further made children and beasts refraine from meat a fasting for which he had no foundation in scripture Was it therfore euer a-whit the less accepted J trow not God was appeased with it God turned awaie his wrath vpon it we put no such confidence in our constitutions albeit the ceremonies haue their vse The antient Fathers S. Austin in his 5. booke de Baptismo 9. chap. and Tertullian in his book of the same argument agree in this that God gaue no direction to S. John Baptist of baptizing in particular but onely in generall appointed him to baptise the rites and the fashions he was to add himself at his owne pleasure And therefore it is called say they the Baptism of Iohn as being his own for the most part Yet heer was no iniury to Christ the sole Law-giuer or else he should haue been sure to haue heard of it To conclude in a word we neuer read in all the Scripture that Christ is the onely Law-giuer of his church and yet if we should we haue that smal vnderstanding with vs as to cōster it no otherwise thā the only Teacher yet other Teachers the only Magistrate yet other Magistrates for we must desire thē now that we may haue no Anabaptism to trouble vs in our arg whatsoer they thinke or whatsoer they wold do at another time so the only Clauiger of the house of Dauid yet the Church hath hir keies too of no small cōsequence the only foster-father of his flock yet many nursing fathers many nursing mothers God inrease the number of his poore Church whose milk is disciplin whose diet is cēsure whose norishment is nurture good laws No doubt the soueraign drownes not the subordinate in all these the like instāces But simple folks may be blear'd with tearms the one eied man ruffles it they say among the stark blind Forgery ceases in the wise mans presēce So much therfore concerning that Another thing they carpe at in the doctrine of our men which because it belōgs to the place that I now handle I wil speak a word or twain vnto so an end It is for saying the Church cannot er in defining about ceremonies or any such matter of order arbitrary indifferent define she how she wil. Truly to enquire what the Church may doe in vtmost extent without possibility of sliding into error is a thing more meet for schooles than pulpits to exercise great iudgements than to tickle curious eares Yet thus much as a schoolman I wil be bold to vndertake to determin by the way that forsomuch as things indifferēt are exceeding diuers in their own nature many lawfull that are not expedient according to the Apostls saying yet supposing the assistāce of the spirit of God in ruling his Church which is rather Christian to belieue than to deride or to denie the church cānot er define she howsoeuer in such cases again not supposing so yet she cannot er dangerously howsoeuer shee determine touching such matters I say determine for in preferring the ceremonies before the substantialls by waie of obseruation she maie erre as the Church of the Iewes did whō God often reprehends eo nomine again I say the Church for if the Papists haue erred euen in deuising some of their ceremonies yet that is since their synagogue lost indeede the honor of that title So much also briefly may serue for that The last thing that I will note out of our aduersaries exceptions compared with the doctrine of this present place is that which the author of the challenge to disputatiō hath set down in a certaine place much as I remember to this purpose That if we in our opinions which we maintaine about Ceremonies vsed in the Church of England as they are at this day be right then our departure from the papists cannot be iustified and the Pope with his adherents nay Christ the Sonne of God and his heauenly truth in them hath had great iniurie to bee so long novve relinquished vppon no other grounds Yea they farther profess that themselues wil becom papists and Iesuits what not if we can but quit our selues in the controuersie O speech worthy the authors of it O speech most vnworthy the eares of any christiā mālô speech than which the diuell of hell could neuer haue roared out a more viperous nor a more detestable one aboue ground Let it be noted I would wish you noted again with a pen of Diamond in tables of brasse to shewe the disposition of the sect for euer that when they would reuoke it they may not be able For what thinke you my deere brethren Country-men of this place Is it matter of Order that we haue left Rome for or matter of Faith Is it matter of ceremony or matter of substance Is it a straw or a block nay a great beame Is it a gap and a bush or a countermure of stone and trench vnpassable that diuides vs from them so great as we cannot imagine that was euer greater which sometime diuided Abraham from the rich man in hell And yet beholde
A SERMON PREACHED AT PAVLES-CROSSE VPON THE 1. OF NOVEMBER BEING ALL-SAINTS DAY ANNO 1607. By Sa Collins Batchelour in Diuinitie and fellow of the Kings Colledge in Cambridge LVC. 7.35 Wisedome is iustified of all her children GREG. MAG in Ezechiel Nihil ad defendendum honestate tutius nihil ad dicendum veritate facilius AT LONDON Printed by Humfrey Lownes for Richard Bonian dwelling at the signe of the spread Eagle right ouer against the great North dore of S. Pauls Church 1607. To the most Reuerend Father in God Richard the Lord Archbishop of Canterburie his Grace Primate and Metropolitane of all England one of his Maiesties most honourable Priuie Councell THe excellēcie of the calling most Reuerend Father that God hath promoted your Grace vnto by the vn-erring hand of his sacred Deputie to be their Agent in causis maioribus to the Churches of this Kingdome may iustly challenge the labours of as many as handle the pen with discretion in our daies but mine if J be ought after a more especiall manner whom the continuance of your fauour for no fewe yeares shining vpon my poore studies hath made wholly pledged to your seruice and some employments also vouchsafed from your Grace haue kept from being altogether idle So that if my meannesse should euer bee exalted to bring forth any thing worthy publication which your Grace rather construeth ouer-fauourably of this Pamphlet than it any way deserueth J haue long since consecrated it to the honor of your Grace as one that hath both countenanced alwaies mine endeauours and also directed after a sort my courses Howbeit this small worke such as it is J now present vnto your Grace not so much in lieu of receiued kindnesse which you haue multiplied vpon me and mine euen when your name hath beene concealed as inuoking patronage against the oppugners For lata porta but aduersarij multi as S. Paul said to his 1. Cor. 16.9 and As concerning this way wee knowe nothing but that it is euery where spoken against as they said to S. Paul Act. 28.22 J speake the truth in Christ most Reuerend Father I lie not the holy Ghost also bearing witnesse with my conscience that J grieue vnspeakeably night and day whithersoeuer J chaunce to looke at the malice of Satan how transformed soeuer and the disaster of our times And as our Sauiour sometimes in the dayes of his flesh wept in compassion ouer the great Citie diuining the ruines of it so mine eyes gush out with water to see there is no religion amongst menne for the most part but that which is tainted with a spice of faction But to let-go complaints and to leaue that to him which will purge his floore in a due time as one that hath his fan already in his hand and lets the yellow weedes to shoote vp but in a policie to exercise our patience and to magnifie his wisedome in the latter end as for the Booke my comfort is that whom the reuerence of your Graces mildnesse and temper most befitting Moses and the aduancement of his chaire shall not represse for shame him the edge of your iudgement long since tried and renowmed for the most accurate perusall of these causes and controuersies aboue all the Church-men of our Nation shall daunt perforce And with that very hope J end for this time humbly recommending the prosperities of your Grace and the good estate of the Church Christian to the Lord Christ that vnder your auspicious and happie gouernement which God of his mercy graunt may be most most long our Nazarites may bee whiter than the snow our Priests purer than the Sapphires Your Graces most humble Chaplaine and Seruant SAMVEL COLLINS A SERMON PREAched at Paules-Crosse 1. TIMOTH 6.3.4.5 If any man teach otherwise and consenteth not to the wholesom words of our Lord Iesus Christ and to the doctrine which is according vnto godlinesse hee is puft vp and knoweth nothing but languisheth about questions and strife of words whereof commeth enuy strife raylings euill surmises froward disputations of men of corrupt mindes and destitute of the truth which thinke that gaine is godlinesse from such separate thy selfe IN 1. Sam. 13.17 thus wee reade that vpon a day there came out of the hoast of the Philistines three garrisons of Champions all minded to destroie but each turning seuerall waies one to Ophrah another to Bethoron and a third to Zeboim This was a picture of the Churches condition not only bodily then wasted and afflicted for the time but spiritually assaulted to the ends of the world whome a trebble squadron of conspiring enimies all bent to murther and destroy yet all attempting sundrie means to mischief do molest continually the heretique by his poisonous and corrupt doctrines the euill liuer by his scandalous and wicked examples the schismatique by his turbulent and vnchristian separations And against these the Ionathans of God with their Captain Saul higher by the head than all the children of Israel that is the king and his Clergie must alwaies haue their weapons in readinesse to suppress their furies We the weakest of ten thousand doe it as wee may to the vtmost of our power and haue done it often heretofore in diuers places encountring them and coping with them as the occasion guided vs either iointly all at once or diuidedly by themselues This day wee will single out the Schismatick from his fellowes as in a stage of renown the greatest disturber if my mind do not misgiue mee that our Church hath complained vnder these many yeares And yet we wil pursue him nor chase him no further than S. Paul himself shall giue vs leaue to do nay ayme and scope how to doe in the Text now propounded The parts whereof are in effect these sixe please you to peruse them with mee The first is The indifferency of the parties offending in these words If any man 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Jf any bee hee who he wil be high or lowe rich or poor great or small learned or lay famous or of no reputation If any The second is the Quality of the fact consenteth not agreeth not accordeth not I had almost saide subscribeth not The third is the degree of the fault teach otherwise not only think but teach publish his fancies proclaime his conceits drawe Disciples after him make a Sect and blowe a trumpet to sedition with Siba the sonne of Bichri Euerie man to his Tents O Jsrael the 2. of Sam. 20.1 The fourth is the rule of tryall for this matter the square of truth to discerne and iudge by It selfe two-folde eyther the wholesome wordes of CHRIST and of godlinesse or euerie doctrine according thereto So I say not only the written word of God but euery doctrine that is not dissenting or swaruing there-from not onely that which is expressed but that which is inferred and by interposition of lawfull authoritie deducted not onely that which is originally good but euen that which is consequentially sound