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A47939 A whipp a whipp, for the schismaticall animadverter upon the Bishop of Worcester's letter by Roger L'Estrange. L'Estrange, Roger, Sir, 1616-1704. 1662 (1662) Wing L1325; ESTC R10187 33,398 64

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Bishops are so little usesul to support the Regal Dignity which is founded upon a distinct Basis of its own that upon enquiry it will be found how none have been greater enemies to the True and Undoubted Soveraingty of Princes than some Bishops themselves for by their Officious and fcarce warrantable intermedling in Civil Affairs by their Absurd and Insignificant distinguishing between Civil and Ecclesiastical Causes of which last they have alwayes made themselves sole Judges they mangle the Kings Authority and as to Church-matters which may be extended as far as they please they leave the King nothing of Supremacy but the Name The Pope of Rome therefore who is the great Father of all such Bishops hath improved this Notion and Distinction so far that in ordine ad spiritualia he hath laboured to subject all Civil Empires unto his sole Jurisdiction E That Regall and Episcopal Power have different Foundations who Questions or that some Bishops have opposed some Kings But did they ever do 't as Bishops What fellowship hath Christ with Belial It were no less then Blasphemy to entitle Rebellion to the Function whereof God himself was the Author It concludes little for the Consistorians that some Bishops have been Enemies to Kings if they consider that we are yet to seek for the First Presbyterian Party that ever were Friends to them Concerning his Cavil at the Distinction between Civil and Ecclesiastical Causes 'T is the Law distinguishes and so the good mans Absurdity lashes upon the King not upon the Bishops He blames likewise their Officious and scarce warr antable intermedling in Civil Affaires Do they Challenge or Act by their own Power or by the Kings If only by Derivation either the King himself wants Power or They have it If they extravagate let him shew Where But do the Bishops Mangle the Kings Authority I hope not so much as the Schismatiques did both That and his Revenue nay and his Person too Were they Bishops or Presbyterians that Preach'd and Libell'd against the Late King that Seiz'd his Towns Seduc'd his People Levy'd a Warr against him Plunder'd Sequestred and Murther'd his Friends and never left the Chase till his Royall Bloud was spilt upon a Scaffold Were they Bishops or Presbyterians that in Ordine adspiritualia Contrived Acted and Warranted the Usurpations of the late Warr In fine the Memory is Fresh and bleeding still of a Presbyterian let him produce One Instance of an Episcopal Rebellion since the Reformation He tells us that the Pope of Rome is the great Father of such Bishops If the great Father of Slanderers and False-speakers had not stood at his Elbow he would never have said it But for Brevity sake let him bring me the most Pragmatical Jesuite that ever put Pen to Paper I 'll match him with a Presbyterian I do not mean for Wit and Learning but for the worst of Practices he 'll dare to Charge him with Nay let him strein the Papal Tyranny he so much declaims against to what pitch of Arrogance and Imposition he pleases I 'll bring him Presbyterian Claims and Presidents shall equall it and when That 's done let him shew any One Episcopal Position destructive to Regality and take the Cause for 't Now have a Care of him for sayes He F So that if the Bishop of Worcester's R●le bold good of Crimine ab uno Disce omnes i. e. That all men who are of a party may be judged of by the miscarriages of one then I must leave it to You to judge what all those Bishops ●at are of the Bishop of Worcester's complexion do rea●y drive at by the fatal example of that one Bishops Usurpation For F Soft and Fair I beseech you Sir The Rule holds very Good but not the Scandal The whole Party are to be Judg'd of by a Particular and nothing makes more Against the Animadverter or for the Bishop then the force of that Conclusion and his Retort unless he can prove the Usurpations of the One and clear the Innocence of the Other by which the Rest are to be measured Hear the Bishop in his own words for This Animal makes the Bishop say what he list and yet makes nothing on 't when h 'as done speaking of Mr. Baxter You have before seen the ingenuity and veracity you now see the humility and the modesty of the Man and indeed in proportion of the whole Party for Crimine ab uno Disce omnes But doth Mr. Baxter and the rest of his perswasion think indeed c. First take the Words in their proper Import and Common Acceptation Does the Whole Party necessarily Imply every Individual or rather the Influence of a Ruling Vote which denominates the Result to be the Act of such or such a Party extending virtually to every Particular but not Distinctly If Party had been Number he had said something 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 sayes the Text Then answered All the People his Bloud be upon us and upon our Children which General expression evidently intended only the Prevailing Part. Now to his Crimine ab Uno disce Omnes Accipenunc Danaum Insidias says Aeneas et Crimine ab uro Disce Omnes It was not the Poets intention to brand every man that was a Greek for Simon 's sake but to shew the suitable Treachery of the People that made use of so treacherous an Instrument To say that the French are a Vain the Spaniard a Proud Nation does it give to understand that there 's not a Modest or an Humble man in the Country But This is time lost for the Bishop restreins his Application in the very next line to those of Mr. Baxters perswasion so that if Mr. Baxter be blame-worthy his Complicates are scarce Innocent and he that pretends to justifie either becomes an Advocate for no lesse then Schisme and Treason His Seditious Hint of the Bishops Usurpation and warping to the Church of Rome deserves rather a Lash then an Answer Yet if he makes out either I 'll bear it for him EXC●PTION II. A THat Assertion that the Bishop of Worcester and consequently every other Bishop is the sole Pastor of all the Congregations in his Diocess if it be at all defensible I am sure can be defended only by those Arguments which are commonly alledged to maintain the Popes Supremacy over all Churches whatever For since a Bishop can no otherwise discharge his duty berein than by providing Substitutes what hinders but the Bishop of Rome may as well oversee a million of Churches as the Bishop of Worcester five hundred Since if Deputation be lawfull more or lesse compasse and circuit of ground doth not at all alter the case A NEver in my Life did I meet an Easier Book to confute with Reason and a harder to handle with Civility a man must underderstand every thing he sayes the wrong way to make Truth on 't Indeed the Reverend Prelate sayes that it is the Bishop of
What Positions Observe it These are the very words he strikes at and terms so Virulent From Diversity grows Dislike from Dislike Enmity from Enmity Opposition and from Opposition first Separation and Schisme in the Church and then Faction Sedition and Rebellion in the State which is a progress very natural and I would we had not found it to be so by our own Experience c. So that unlesse the King will renounce the Right of his Fathers Cause the People are by This miserable Scribler animated to renounce his Majesty He makes broad Signes too to the people to stick to their Covenant Pag. 12. and Commits the Rest to Providence Let it not be said now that I force his Meaning and that his words in some places may be taken in a more Favourable Sense it suffices me that they fa●ly bear This and the Worst which without Violence the Words will bear may with great Justice be apply'd to his Meaning Non quid dixerint sed quò spectarint videndum Libels are to be understood by their Hints rather than by their Words See first the main Scope of the Libell which is in This particular most undeniable to defame the Bishops Disaffect the People and Streighten the Power of the King Which Seditious Aime being taken for granted whatsoever may be therein understood in Favour of Mischief may be very Charitably Concluded for a Contrivance of it I Argue from These Reasons First his Concealment is a kind of Flight and tacitly amounts to a Proof against kim Next 't is agreed that his Intent is evill and the worst sense holds best Proportion with his Purpose Here are untoward Circumstances and yet There 's one more which in my Opinion outweighs all we have spoken of The Bishop thinks himself ill us'd by Mr. Baxter and the Animadverter steps between at the request we must Imagine of the Honourable He undertakes to say what he dislikes in the One what in the Other and in fine Many a Quarrel he picks with the Bishop dividing only in One Point from the Presbyterian That is in his own Terms As to the main Controversie I think the Bishop hath much the better of Mr. Baxter For if the Question between them was as Dr. Gunning and Dr. P●arson do attest such a Command is so evidently lawful that I shall much wonder if Mr. Baxter did ever dispute it We see here what he means by the main Controversie and wherein the Libeller dissents from Mr. Baxter The Rest being only Tempest and Invective against the Bishop without the least hint of a blame upon the Other See now wherein they Agree which must needs be in every thing save That wherein they Differ that is in These following Positions the Animadverter and the Casuist are Hand and Glove TEN POSITIONS Which some say Restor'd the KING I. IF a Prince want such Understanding Goodnesse or Power as the People judge Necessary to the Ends of Government in the first Case he is Capable of the Name but not of the Government in the Second he Deposes himself in the Third the want of Power deposes him Theses 135 136 137. II. If a Prince in a Military State against his People be by them Conquer'd they are not Obliged to Restore him without some other Obligation then their Allegeance Thes. 145. III. If a Prince be injuriously Expell'd by what Power-soever that Resolves to Ruine the Common-wealth rather then he shall be Restor'd and if the Common-wealth may prosper without his Restoring That Prince is bound to resign his Government or if he Refuse the People are to judge him Incapable by Providence Thes. 147. IV. If a Prince be so long Out that the Nation cannot well stand without another Providence has dispossess'd the Former a●d we are to make a new Choyce Thes. 149. V. If a Prince be thrown out by 〈◊〉 Rebellion the strongest Rebel may ex Charitate undertake the Government The Case holds in Good Livings Thes. 150 VI. Any thing that is a sufficient sign of the will of God that This is the Person by whom we must be Governed is enough as joyned to Gods Laws to oblige us to consent and obey him as our Governour Thes. 153. VII And yet All the People have not this right of choosing their Governours but commonly a part of every Nation must be compelled to consent Thes. 159. VIII Those that are known Enemies to the Common good in the chiefest parts of it are unmeet to Govern or choose Governours else give us up to our Enemies or to Satan But such are multitudes of ungodly vicious men IX If a People bound by Oath shall dispossesse their Prince and Chuse and Covenant with another they may be Obliged by their Latter notwithstanding their former Covena●t X. Though a Nation wrong their King and so quoad Meritum Causae they are on the worser side yet may he not Lawfully war against the Publick good on that accompt nor any help him in such a war because propter finem he hath the worser cause Thes. 352. That these Maxims brought in the King who questions A word now to the Rabbi's Doctrine Concerning the English Government 1. The real Sovereignty here amongst us was in King Lords and Commons Pag. 72. 2. The Law that saith the King shall have the Militia supposeth it to be against Enemies and not against the Common-wealth nor them that have part of the Sovereignty with him To resist him here is not to resist Power but Usurpation and private will in such a case the Parliament is no more to be resisted then He. Thes. 363. 3. If the King raise Warr against such a Parliament upon their Declaration of the Dangers of the Common-wealth the People are to take it as raised against the Common-wealth Thes. 358. 4. And in that Case saith he the King may not only be resisted but ceaseth to be a King and entreth into a State of Warr with the People Thes. 368. These with our Animadverter pass for unquestionable Fundamentals of Government but whether a doubting soul may be Compell'd to Kneel when it hath a mind to sit That 's a nice point indeed To passe over the Libellers Scandalous and Barefac'd Impostures His Rude and Impetuous Violences wee 'l only ask Why all this Fury and Contrivement against the Bishop Is 't as a Friend to a silenc'd Brother And the main cause Tho' by the Spite I should suspect a Personal Pique But there may be something else in 't too and if the man comes off at last say I 'm a Wizard No matter what it is Hee 's very much Offended And no matter for that neither Offended he is at the Stile I would he had quarreld it in a Better but at the Bishops Passion beyond measure Truly upon Perusal of it more then Once and weighing it Word by Word I can find nothing in the Language that does not very well beseeme the Pen and Dignity of a Prelate Yet there was Cause enough for a little Sharpnesse and here 's the Case in short The Bishop of Worcester finding the Parish of Kidderminster infected with Mr. Baxters Doctrine who Preach'd there without either Cure or License forbids him to Preach there any more and Preaches there himself to Disabuse them hinting the unfaithful dealing they had receiv'd from One in great Authority among them concerning the Kings Cause The Rites of the Church and the sinfulnesse of a Lawful Command because by Accident it might be the occasion of Sin c. Hereupon Mr. Baxter addresses to the Inhabitants of Kidderminster pretends that he was silenc'd for denying such a Position Which was not so but for Preaching without a License and charges the Bishop to have delivered in the Pulpit words tending to his Defamation and neither of Charity Truth nor Sobernesse This Scandal and some other Partial Relations short of and beyond the true State of the Matter were the occasion of the Bishops Letter where I must confesse the Bishop of Worcester may be thought thus far Severe to Mr. Baxter in that he hath foyld him by Proofs not to be denyed and by Reasons not to be answered THE END Books sold by H. Brome at the Gun in Ivie-lane A Geographicall Dictionary Justice Revived being the whole Office of a Countrey Justice of the Peace Mr. Mortons Rule of Life Books written by R. L'Estrange Esq The Holy Cheat. A Caveat to the Cavaliers A Modest Plea The Relaps'd Apostate or an Answer to the Presbyterian Liturgy State Divinity or A Supplement to the Relaps'd Apostate Imprimatur libellus hic cui titulus Pulpit-Conceptions Popular Deceptions or The Grand Debate resumed in the point of Prayer c. cum laude Dignissimi Authoris Approbavit ROBERTUS PORY S. T. P. Reverendmo in Christo Patri ac Domino Domino GULIELMO Archiepiscopo Cantuariensi totius Angliae Primati Metropolitano Sacellanus Domesticus Page 15. lin 19 20. read thus most apt for the present to promote D. E. A Shrewd one An Elegance An Elegance of D. E's The like of R. W. The S●hismatique à la mode D. E. ☜ D. E. Presbyterianissimè ☞ D. E. D. E. D. E. D. E. Pag. 21. Mat. 27. 25. D. E. Pag. 2. 3. D. E. D. E. Act. 20. 28. 1 Pet. 5. 2. D. E. D. E. D. E. D. E. D. E. Publ. Worship Pag. 67. Except Pag. 8. D. E. D. E. ☜ Pag. 10. Pag. 11. D. E. D. E. D. E. D. E. D. E. E● B● 〈◊〉 19. ☜ D. E. D. E. 1 Cor. 11. 23 24 25. D. E. D. E. D. E. S●are broken Pag. 23. D. E. Pag. 33. D. E. Pag. 2. Pag. 9. Pag. 2. Pag. 5. Bishop of Worst Pag. 18. Animad Pag. 1. Destructive of all Kings The Case of the late King when he was Bou●t and Sold in 〈◊〉 The Case of the King and the Commons in 1650. Oliver Chosen by Pro● Olivers taking the Government upon him was a deed of Charity Oliver by the Will o● God though not by the Grace of God The Cavaliers compell'd to consent and the Bret●ea to chuse For fear of the King and his Friends Presbyterian Absolution The King c● do 〈◊〉 wrong with a Sal● The King of England no Monarch The King has the Militia if the People please The People Judg● of the K●g And may depose 〈◊〉 resist him as pleasure Qu●