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A44308 The non-conformists champion, his challenge accepted, or, An answer to Mr. Baxter's Petition for peace written long since, but now first published upon his repeated provocations and importune clamors, that it was never answered : whereunto is prefixed an epistle to Mr. Baxter with some remarks upon his Holy Common-wealth, upon his Sermon to the House of Commons, upon his Non-conformists plea for peace and upon his Answer to Dr. Stillingfleet. / by Ri. Hooke. R. H. (Richard Hooke); Baxter, Richard, 1615-1691. Petition for peace.; Baxter, Richard, 1615-1691. Holy commonwealth.; Baxter, Richard, 1615-1691. Sermon of repentance. 1682 (1682) Wing H2608; ESTC R28683 62,409 170

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Onely the Subjects hurt themselves It may be necessary to the Subjects welfare to injure a worthy Prince and to hurt and punish themselves Is of the same Bran. Though some Injury to the King be the occasion of the War it is the duty of all the People to defend the Common-wealth against him yet so as they protest against that Injury This Protestation washes them white and they now owe him no satisfaction for their Injury but may add Injury to Injury The People must side with the Parliament against the King till it be notorious that the Parliament have deceived and betrayed them This you think not yet notorious though the Parliament have murthered the King abjured his Successour and usurped the Government Names are not the onely Notes of Sovereignty If a King have the Title of Supreme Head or onely Sovereign of his Dominions and yet a Senate have an essential part without the Name they lose not their part nor is it to be judged by the Name If the whole Family with whom the people were in Covenant be extirpated or become incapable by a stronger Power injuriously expelling the Family however or by whom soever as before you have told us the People may new form the Government as they please that is The good People of the Army by whom the Royal Family is extirpated Many more of your Theses such as these I might expose but these are too many and 't is next to incredible that a person professing Godliness should expose to the World such ungodly Positions and endeavour to render Supreme Majesty and Sovereign Power cheap and vile ambulatory and open to any Invader when God hath declared Kings to be Sacred not to be touched will have none to rise up against them to all who resist them hath threatned Damnation Well Mr. Baxter you shall take it for a Polititian and all sober and knowing persons will say that Machiavel was no body to you your Holy Common-wealth hath infinitely out-done his Profane Prince But Sir I must doe you that right to publish unto your honour that there is one fair Pearl found in your Dunghill one Thesis among abundance wretchedly wicked which is hugely honest and pious It is the Subjects duty to defend their Prince with their Strength and hazard of their Lives against all foreign and domestick Enemies that seek his Life and Ruine the Reason every man is to doe it in his place and calling Fidelity requireth it the Common good requireth it else no man that is wise would be a King or Governour for if the People be not bound to defend him he is but set up to be the object of envy and a bait to the ambitious to entice men to invade him and execute their fury on him I leave you to reconcile your other Principles and your Practice with this and so I shall take leave of your Holy Common-wealth when I have considered your Reasons of taking up Arms for the Parliament and I must tell you the most of those you call Reasons are undutifull and uncharitable Reflexions upon the King his Council his Army and all his loyal Subjects who stood up in defence of his Majesty the established Religion and the Laws against the pretended Parliament who by impious Arms invaded and violated them all You are pleased to bestow the good names of Ignorant Drunken and Vngodly upon those who approved not the Puritans intemperate Heat and fiery Zeal and the Parliaments bloudy Reformation and very mannerly you call the King's Council Delinquent and as charitably his Armies Impious and Popish and yet you confess your own godly-army as bad worse In the Armies some of our hopefull Professours turned Drunkards some turned away from Ministers Ordinances Scripture Godliness from Christ and from common Sobriety and Civility some that sped best lament their Coolings and Distempers You will not believe the Parliament began the War though the King gives you a demonstration of it but you determine the Question rarely well in telling us your self begun it and were the first Incendiary The War you say was begun in our Streets before the King or Parliament had an Army and so you had the honour first to be a General of your own creating before Essex without Commission from King or Parliament The Parliaments causeless jealousies you justifie but the King 's just Fears you slight To the Objection The Tumults at Westminster drove him away you answer Onely by displeasing him not by endangering him or medling with him So the Parliaments Army their Cannons and Muskets only affrighted did not endanger him You have all faith for the Parliament but none for the King who in his Meditations tells you he was more than displeased You say The Parliament did not raise War against the Person or Authority of the King You might have as truly said Their Army did not fight where the King was in person at Edghill Newbery and Naseby O but Their Commissions ran for King and Parliament and their Souldiers if askt who they were for answered for King and Parliament and the Solemn League and Covenant all run for King and Parliament What talk you of Commissions equivocating Covenants and dissembling Declarations when you fought against the King's person took him imprisoned him and at last murthered him You may wash your hands with Pilate and tell us Your horrid Cruelties were onely consequents not effects of the War But the Bloud of the King and his Loyal Subjects which you spilt will be upon you unless you wash it away by a deep Repentance For your taking up Arms against the King you rely upon the authority of Mr. Prin who pleaded the Parliaments cause in revenge for his Ears and in gratitude for their releasing and bringing him to London in triumph of greeting one of a foreign Countrey and a great Common-wealths-man of Barkly a Papist and indeed from them you learnt this wicked Doctrine You might had you been impartial consulted Judge Jenkins your friend Hales Dudly Digs and the never to be answered Royal Apology These would have taught you that the Laws of God and the Land forbid in all cases resistance against the King command subjection but let these and your other shews and faint shadows of reason vanish The most substantial one which you chiefly urge and enlarge on is That the King is not as all his good Subjects have been taught to believe the Sovereign but that the Parliament hath a part in the Supremacy an Assertion directly contrary to the Oath of Supremacy which you elsewhere confess secures the King's Title against all foreign Claims of Pope or any other and consequently against all home-bread Vsurpers and every Member of Parliament takes that Oath and the Long Parliament even when making War against the King confess themselves in their Declarations his Majestie 's most loyal and humble Subjects I dare not with you presume to talk at pleasure of Kings and Parliaments I
Laying on of the hands of the Presbytery whether the Lawn be de essentia to the Ceremony and the Hands avail nothing without the Sleeves on Sir St. Paul appealed to Caesar you cannot but appeal to the Higher Powers It seems with you there are Higher Powers than Caesar And as you mistake the Object so you do the Subject matter or Case of your Appeal which should be Whether Timothy who was ordained by the Laying on of the hands of the Prebytery was not again ordained by the Laying on of the hands of St. Paul and the Higher Powers may put you to prove your selves ordained as was Timothy which will be a little difficult and your Quoeries will be to them as hard Whether the hands of the Presbytery were without Sleeves Whether Saint Paul had Lawn Sleeves Whether Ordination be a Ceremony Whether a Ceremony hath any thing belonging to it de essentia Important Quoeries all these verily and fit to be revised and judged by the Higher Powers if you knew who they were but alas you do not as you complain in your Sermon to the House of Commons If then you would take my counsel refer it Brother Cheny One thing I am mighty sorry to see and say This wise case is ushered in with a gross leasing when just before you affirm the case was such That there was no other than Presbyterian Ordination to be had here in the late times Truly if your good will might be taken for the deed there was no other to be had But in the late times my self and hundreds more had Episcopal Ordination But quoere whether it were valid you having taken away their Lawn Sleeves and Rochets and Rochets to which might be de essentia to the Ceremony One thing more I must observe and then I shall end your Trouble and 't is my own great trouble that I must observe it and rebuke you for it you say in your Preface Ans to Dr. Stillingfleet I am past doubt that Richard Hooker Bishop Bilson and BishopVsher where they now alive would be Non-conformists And you said it before as I remember elsewhere Sir Your being past doubt puts us past our faith in your assertions no body will believe what you say while you talk at this rate and blemish the precious memory of such venerable Persons two of them having been the highest Assertors of Conformity since the Reformation and have left us for it their Monuments in writing incomparable and unanswerable Pray Sir How came you by this Plerophy Have their Ghosts appeared unto you and informed you that they have been convinced in another world that they erred in thinking there ought to be Church Order and Vniformity in this And Have they told you for no body else could what sort of Non-conformists they would be Those of the first Edition in Forty two or those of the second in Sixty two Would they when Non-conformity was rampant have risen up against the King and Church and with you cryed up the good Cause and pluckt up the perpetual Government of Christ's Church and the Ecclesiastical Polity root and branch and in order to a thorough Beformation taken the Solemn League and Covenant and with you taken up Arms for the Parliament Or Would they now having answered onely the old Objections when alive be so stagger'd with your new ones that that one alone of the erroneous Kalendar would be a flaming Sword to keep them from entring Sir Hereafter talk things crediible such Romances become you not What would your Censure be should we affirm we are past doubt that Mr. Cartwright Traverse and Brown were they now alive would turn Conformists One thing in the Epistle to your Plea I omitted is fit here to be remarked your Complaint that you have been called on to tell what it is that you would have as if you had told it and we well knew it But truly Sir 't is a very hard Question which we think you neither have nor can tell One thing you would have to day another to morrow a little will content you when you are under but nothing will content you when you are uppermost When you writ your Petition for Peace you would have Bishop Usher's model and could yield to Bishops and Archbishops When you writ your Answer to Dr. Stillingfleet you would have your Grievances proposed to the Higher Powers and would have the Higher Powers strip the Bishops of their Lawn Sleeves We know by what measures you proceeded in Forty one from Petitioning to Protestation thence to Covenanting to Arming to Sequestring till you had levelled all before you and overturned the Government of both Church and State I am very unwilling to mention your past Actings but that you give us great cause to think you would be acting the same things again and do in effect tell us What you would have But What you would not have you can better tell us No Bishops no Liturgy no Canons for decency and order in the publick Worship no King but upon such terms if you be the Casuists who resolved upon the prospect of the King's Restoration That in that state of things the King could not justifie the resuming of his Government nor his people the submitting to it But your Non-conforming Brethren best know your minde Let them tell you and us what you would have had when you had all You complain of your Misery Bondage and Slavery of Oppressions Sorrows and Troubles of the Church that is doubtless of the Church Presbyterian and no other What doth all you What troubles you who doth oppress you have you not Authority on your side have you not all the Church livings in the Kingdom have you not Declaration upon Declaration Ordinance upon Ordinance Order upon Order to back you Is there the least shew of Oppression Sorrow or Cause of complaint administred unto you except it be because you are not suffered to oppress vex and gall your Brethren that joyn not with you Can you feed upon nothing but Bloud yea the Bloud of your Brethren that though you have every thing else that onely prohibited you complain of Sorrow Slavery and Oppression that you cannot enslave and lead into Captivity Is this to kill you with the Sword that you cannot kill your Brethren with the Sword THE NON-CONFORMISTS CHAMPION HIS CHALLENGE ACCEPTED 1. WHEN God had in mercy and faithfulness unto David delivered him from the Sword of Saul and set him upon the Throne of Israel the first thing he esteemed himself obliged unto in duty and gratitude was to set up God's Kingdom and settle his true Worship in Israel who had set up and settled him in that Kingdom To this end he brings the Ark of God in a Religious State and Triumph to Jerusalem which had been taken by the Philistines and remained some time with them in Captivity and after lodged in obscurity in the houses of Aminadab and Obededom His gracious Majesty our David
the other they are not the fullest vessels that make the greatest sound 't is not the best cause that is most clamorous the Bishops cause was not their own more than the King 's the Parliaments and the Churches having been by Law established and continued except in the Popish and Presbyterian Persecutions ever since the Reformation Therefore the Bishops judged it needless to give themselves and the World the trouble of any tedious Defence But the Presbyterians pleading against the Laws and established Order thought it necessary to bestir themselves and to make long Apologies for so high an Attempt Therefore they have left no Stone unturned have sent Paper after Paper and posted them through all parts of the Nation to keep up their Interest in the Party and their Party's prejudice against the Churches Liturgy I suppose it is hereby plain to all indifferent Judges that the Blame is not on the Bishops but the Presbyterians that the Treaty had not its desired success And to manifest it farther since they justifie themselves and wash their hands and cry We are innocent They must be told 1. That they have not duly prepared for an Accommodation before the Treaty 2. They have not demeaned themselves candidly and ingeniously in the Treaty 1. They have not duly prepared for an Accommodation before the Treaty There is no hope of a fair Agreement between two dissenting Parties so long as on the one part there remain causes of Jealousie which will not be removed Now since the Prebyterians do lie under the Scandal of holding divers Tenets in reference to his Majesty Episcopacy and the Liturgy to which if they still adhere they render themselves uncapable of a Treaty it highly concerns them to purge themselves by a full and free Declaration of their Judgments in those particulars which have an immediate influence upon the Treaty 1. Since the Presbyterians both from the Pulpit and the Press have taught That it is lawfull to resist Kings and have stirred up the People to arm against their lawfull Sovereign upon pretence of Reformation in Religion herein joyning with the Jesuits That Heretical Kings may be resisted and deposed as many of their Books and Sermons declare For the undeceiving of the People and clearing themselves of the guilt of that antichristian and impious Tenet they were bound in duty and conscience to have publickly disavowed that Doctrine and to have published to the World that they hold the Doctrine of our Church That Kings are Sacred above all coercive Power That they are Supreme the Highest Powers onely punishable by God and not upon any pretence of Liberty Property Law or Religion be it never so specious nay be it never so real to be resisted or opposed 2. For that they maintain and publickly teach the Civil Magistrate not to be Superior to the Ecclesiastical Governors They were obliged to make a publick acknowledgment of the King's Supremacy in all causes and over all persons Ecclesiastical in short to have offered to take the Oath of Supremacy The Denial of which is a second Opinion wherein some of them symbolize with the Papists 3. For that they have in their Writings so publickly opposed the Episcopal Government covenanted against it taken it away and in the place thereof set up another Government they should expresly have owned the Episcopal Government now restored and have promised to be obedient unto it 4. For that they had cast out and laid aside all set forms of publick Prayer Ordination and other Administrations their Directory being a very cypher neither used by themselves nor imposed upon any other every Minister being left to his own dictates in publick holy Offices they should previously have declared their Judgments that a set form of publick Prayer is in every Church necessary to which all in that Church should be obliged 5. For that their Party have taken away the Form of Prayer by Law appointed and forbidden all Ministers under great penalty to use it they should have declared that the substance of it was agreeable to God's Word onely they judged it needed some Alteration and that if his Majesty with the Bishops should consent to the Amendment of such things as by their joint Judgments should be thought needfull they would submit unto it and be obliged ever to use it in their Ministrations These things were necessary should have been precedaneous to the Treaty and would much have conduced to an happy Accommodation Such an ingenuous Confession and Retractation beseemed them and would have melted his Majesty and the Bishops and all good Christians would have wept with them and rejoyced for them and embraced them with the same Affection that Joseph did his repenting Brethren and indeed it was a wonderfull condescention in his Majesty to appoint the Bishops and a high Obedience in the Bishops to his Majesty to treat at all with them without and before such a Confession Surely till they do retract those not onely erroneous but some of them prodigious and most dangerous and unchristian Opinions they in vain go about to persuade the World that ●●ey cannot submit to our Liturgy upon the Principles of Conscience 'T is not Conscience that swallows Camels and streins at Gnats 't is not Conscience that sees Motes and winks at Beams 't is not Conscience that neglects the weighty things of the Law and tithes Mint and Cummin Certainly they must have abundance of Charity that can believe be their words never so smooth that these men have no Motive but Conscience to oppose our Church Ceremonies do out of Conscience scruple at a Surplice a Gesture a Set form a Word obsolete or improper whose Conscience could swallow Sedition Rebellion could make War against their Sovereign King could overturn all Order both civil and sacred and fill the Church and State with Bloud and Confusion One thing more which evidences their Insincerity as to an amicable Treaty as if they resolved it should take no effect and feared lest Duty Piety Conscience and Reason should work upon their Brethren to submit to the Form of Worship now likely to be restored they sent to all of their Judgments in the Nation to send up wha● Objections they could make against the Common-prayer and advised them to hold off and not to conform by any means for their standing out was the onely way to obtain their own terms and liberty their numbers being so considerable that in case of their deprivation there were not Conformable Ministers enough to supply their places and so the King and the Church must be forced to indulge and continue them Surely this was not consciencious and discovered their Design to continue a Division and keep up a Party Though herein their Politicks failed them the Bishops sented the Design and provided for the Churches against the Vacancy 2. They have not demeaned themselves candidly and fairly in the Treaty which themselves in their two Papers the Petition for Peace and the Grand