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A26901 The church told of Mr. Ed. Bagshaw's scandals and warned of the dangerous snares of Satan now laid for them in his love-killing principles with a farther proof that it is our common duty to keep up the interest of the Christian religion and Protestant cause in the parish churches, and not to imprison them by a confinement to tolerated meetings alone / by Richard Baxter ... Baxter, Richard, 1615-1691. 1672 (1672) Wing B1226; ESTC R1907 28,184 36

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adding that Generals or Parliament would have signified little had they not had such Chaplains when I had told him and he durst not deny it that the Armies were raised before I ever spake to Parliament man or Officer or ever preached to them yea two years before I was in the Army whither I went with an open profession to disswade them from the changes which they made my judgment forsaking their Cause in 1644. when their Commission at the New-modelling left out For the King which before had run For the defence of the Kings person c. and the rest of their intentions evidently to me appearing Till then in Coventry Garison I did speak all that which in the Book cited by him I expressed Nor did I ever say I did but little as he vainly intimateth Sect. 7. Pag. 3. By a false representation of my Repentance whether ignorantly or maliciously he would insinuate that I Repent of Good as well as of Evil or else that such as he and his adherents the Separatists have none of that sort of culpability to repent of or else that they disclaim so inglorious a thing as Repentance is and will stand to their sins at Death and Judgment let God say against them what he will The first is an intimation which maketh no small part of his Book to be one continued Untruth When one part is spent in making the ignorant and suspicious believe that I wrote for Conformity the next is constituted of another Untruth in the false description of my Repentance But I know the design of his railing is to draw me to talk of those matters over rashly about Wars and Governments which I repent of talking of so much already that he may catch somewhat for his Malice to make use of to a farther end Fain he would make the world believe that I must speak Treason or be a Coward or a Turn coat Not with the simplicity as children dare one another into the dirt but with the kindness that traps and snares are set for birds to catch and kill them And if Murderous Malice and Lying be made by Christ the Devils sins and the marks of his children Ioh. 8. 48. 1 Ioh. 3. 8. I think those that are notoriously thus self-stigmatized are fitter to be separated from than to separate from others as unworthy of their good company I must profess that as in my Answers to divers such men as this I have as near as I could imitated my great example so I cannot see but this man and others that have led him this same way have exactly imitated the malicious Pharisees And let him be also their imitator who thinketh them wiser and more stout and valiant men than Christ Matth. 22. 15 16 17 18 19 20 21. Then went the Pharisees and took counsel how they might entangle him in his talk that they might either accuse him of Treason as after they did or else make the people hate him as a favourer of the Roman Tyranny as they accounted it Master we know that thou art true and teachest the way of God in truth and wilt not hide thy judgement by dark speeches nor bauk plain truth neither carest thou for any man for thou regardest not the persons of men O malicious commendations Tell us therefore what thinkest thou Is it lawful to give tribute unto Caesar or not But Iesus perceived their wickedness and said Why tempt ye me ye hypocrites shew me the Tribute money And they shewed him a penny And he saith unto them Whose is this Image and Superscription They say unto him Caesars Then saith he unto them Render therefore unto Caesar the things that are Caesars and unto God the things that are Gods I hope Mr. Bagshaw will neither say that Christ here plainly decided the controversie intended by the questioners nor yet deny but he seemeth to do it so far as silenced his adversaries then and as putteth Expositors hard to it now to understand his meaning See Dr. Hammond on the words And I am in some hope yet that as foul-mouth'd as he is he will not call Christ a Lyar or dissembler or a favourer of Tyranny or a Coward that would say any thing to escape sufferings But rather of the two think that he is not deceived who thinketh his own way somewhat like to the Murderous-Tempting-Hypocrites in the Text. As for my Repenting which he ignorantly and maliciously talketh of I shall now say no more to the Reader but this 1. That I expect that the enemies of Repentance be enemies to me 2. That I little regard such censures as this man who either cannot through ignorance or will not through malice or passion understand plain English when he readeth it nor know the difference between the disowning of Evil and of Good Sect. 8. pag. 4. He intimateth by a Question this visible falshood that I said I thought nothing of Divinity in the cause so hard is it for Ignorance and rashness to speak truth This is because I said that I knew of no controversie in Divinity about it but in Politicks and Law And can one that hath ever learned to read English and ever exercised his thoughts of such matters be possibly so ignorant as to think this is all one as to say that there was nothing of Divinity in the cause Their Controversies were whether the Parliament had Authority to raise their Arms against the Kings will prohibition and opposition And whether the King had Authority to raise his Arms against theirs And is this a Controversie in Divinity Poor souls Will you be seduced to think that Christ or Paul must decide all controversies of forms and degrees of power in Republicks Which Text is it that telleth you that the Militia belonged to the Parliament or what degree of power the Courts of Justice have Did Paul Rom. 13. tell you whether Nero or the Senate were the higher power Did Christ tell the tempting hypocrites whether Caesar justly coined money in or for Iudaea But what Hath Divinity therefore nothing to do in Law controversies Yes surely both about the efficient end and motives Politicks and Law tell us which is the highest power And Divinity telleth us that we must obey it and that for conscience-sake as being of God Divinity telleth you that Religious interest may be the just end and motive of a War but withall that it must be made by those only that have just power to do it But who hath just power the Laws must tell us Thus Reader the mans ignorance and false speaking have lengthened thy trouble Sect. 9. Ib. That my Love of ease and fear of suffering cause strange changes in my corrupt and carnal understanding is at least a single untruth and may be a double one for ought he knows that knoweth not the heart I am sure it is a fault even in Mr. Bagshaw to make himself a Heart-searching-God while he maketh the Prayers of his betters to be Idolatry Sect.