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A09112 The vvarn-vvord to Sir Francis Hastinges wast-word conteyning the issue of three former treateses, the Watch-word, the Ward-word and the Wast-word (intituled by Sir Francis, an Apologie or defence of his Watch-word) togeather with certaine admonitions & warnings to thesaid [sic] knight and his followers. Wherunto is adioyned a breif reiection of an insolent, and vaunting minister masked with the letters O.E. who hath taken vpon him to wryte of thesame [sic] argument in supply of the knight. There go also foure seueral tables, one of the chapters, another of the controuersies, the third of the cheif shiftes, and deceits, the fourth of the parricular [sic] matters conteyned in the whole book. By N.D. author of the Ward-word. Parsons, Robert, 1546-1610. 1602 (1602) STC 19418; ESTC S114221 315,922 580

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53._o that_o albeit_o the_o pope_n and_o his_o clergy_n command_z blasphemy_n etc._n etc._n yet_o must_v he_o be_v obey_v upon_o pain_n of_o damnation_n he_o add_v present_o and_o his_o meaning_n be_v most_o true_a not_o so_o much_o defend_v the_o word_n as_o the_o meaning_n of_o the_o writer_n as_o though_o he_o have_v have_v conference_n with_o the_o knight_n about_o it_o for_o justify_v of_o which_o meaning_n he_o bring_v in_o this_o substantial_a proof_n james_n 〈…〉_o k._n henry_n the_o 〈…〉_o the_o popish_a 〈…〉_o this_o 〈…〉_o the_o proof_n 〈…〉_o he_o in_o the_o 〈…〉_o detestable_a 〈…〉_o example_n of_o god_n 〈…〉_o most_o excellent_a mystery_n of_o christ_n 〈…〉_o etc._n etc._n and_o then_o he_o quote_v in_o the_o 〈◊〉_d the_o oration_n of_o sixtus_n quintus_n and_z la_fw-fr sulmanante_n etc._n etc._n but_o first_o if_o all_o this_o be_v true_a which_o be_v most_o false_a and_o wicked_o devise_v out_o of_o his_o own_o finger_n end_n prove_v a_o vain_a ridiculous_a kind_n of_o prove_v 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