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A58472 The religion of the Church of England, the surest establishment of the royal throne with the unreasonable latitude which the Romanists allow in point of obedience to princes : in a letter occasioned by some late discourse with a person of quality. Womock, Laurence, 1612-1685. 1673 (1673) Wing R902; ESTC R14331 24,790 40

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neque jure humano nec Divino Idem ibid. p. 327. Edit Celon Agripp n. all Ecclesiastics from Subjection to the Secular Princes it follows that in respect of those Church-men they are not the higher Powers and consequently the Church-men are not obliged to obey them by any Law either Divine or Humane except only in some trivial matters which he there calls Leges Directivae such as a man 's not stirring out of doors after a particular hour without his Sword by his side and a Light in his hand c. In these petty Trifles they will out of good nature obey the King but for any things of greater concern therein they beg excuse to be out of his reach So that in plain terms at this rate all the Clergy in every Kingdom are left at Liberty whether they will be Loyal or no and the Prince shall wholly lose his Coercive Power over a considerable part of his Subjects So that sometimes it may happen there shall not only be a Refusal of Obedience to but a downright Resistance of his Commands Instances hereof are numerous How saucily did Anselm carry to King Rufus and Thomas Becket to Henry the Second till the one died abroad and the other was killed at home And upon every occasion it would happen so still The Clergy believing themselves freed from any Punishment their Prince could inflict and knowing full well that upon an Appeal to Rome the Sentence would surely pass in favour of the Church Or let it but once come to a Contest that the Pope enjoyns one thing the King another the Pope passeth such a Decree the King gainsays it who shall prevail Shall not the Pope because the Church-men are under his Lash but exempted from the Kings nor will they in reason be easily drawn to provoke him who both can and will for another mans sake who neither must nor dare correct them So that in effect they are but titularly Subjects and will so far be dutiful to the King as their own good Inclinations shall prompt them Now how can he expect to be secured in his Throne by those persons who are not under his Jurisdiction In case their Holy Father for some particular pique at him or to gratifie a beloved Nephew declare him an Heretic that he may dispose of his Kingdom these good Children must needs tread in his Steps and do as he bids them they being according to their own Principles as much obliged to take part against as our Religion would teach us to take part with our Prince notwithstanding all opposition in the world Besides these Ecclesiastical Immunities drain a great deal of wealth out of each Kingdom which might better be laid up in the Kings Exchequer All the Profit of Collations to Benefices First-Fruits Tenths and several other Duties of that kind these the Pope hoords up in his own Coffers a Grievance whereof this particular Nation was so sensible that open Complaint was made against it Temp. Hen. III in Parliament for such vast Sums were sent away out of this little Kingdom from one time to another that the People were much impoverished to make it what he called it Puteus inexhaustus a Well not to be drawn dry So that it is strangely wonderful how the Princes abroad to this very day bear so great an Imposition upon them and submit to such a Diminution of their Authority so contrary to the Rule of Scripture so without all Precedent from Antiquity unless one spurious Passage palpably foisted into Ignatius his Epistles so Dangerous to the peaceable state of their several Countreys and so Inconsistent with the Obedience owing to their own persons But it were something tolerable if this might prove II. By teaching the lawfulness to excommunicate 〈◊〉 murther Kings for Religion the worst so far is the Romish Religion from enjoyning Obedience to Princes that it teacheth those pernicious Doctrins of the Lawfulness to excommunicate depose and murther Kings if their Religion may thereby be promoted So that not only the Clergy but the Princes too lie at the Popes mercy His Fingers indeed have long itched to be medling with Crowns and therefore he employs his Agents abroad to whisper these Devilish Maxims into peoples Ears Now when the grave Fathers of the Church teach and their seduced Children admit them for Truths no marvel if the King sits uneasie in his Throne and his Scepter be ready to fall out of his Hand For satisfaction herein I refer you to Bellarmine again for no mans Credit is better in that Church Three Chapters he spends very eagerly in one Book upon this Subject fending and proving according to our Proverb with might and main The D●●●t ●ontifex R●g●bus juber●●● h●c faci●●● 〈◊〉 nisi f●cer●nt etiam cogere per excommunicati●nem al●asque commodas rationes Bellarm. de R●m Pont. l. 5. c. 7. p 505. Pope saith he must command Kings to do these things things relating to the Service of God and if they do them not to compel them by Excommunication and other commodious ways This is pretty smart but all the while sure there is no fear of altering his Property or taking that Dominion from him which God had given Yes there may be Reason for that too if the Cause of Religion require the doing it The Pope may Papa potest mutare Regn● uni a●ferre at que alters conferre tanquam summus princ●ps spiritu●lis si id necessarium sit ad animarum salutem Idem c. 6. p 901. make an Alteration in Kingdoms dethroning one man and exalting another as being the greatest spiritual Prince if it be necessary for the good of souls And this unlimited Power he endeavours to defend by a great many Authorities Nor may he only exercise this strange kind of Prerogative but the good Subjects also must be so much concerned for the Catholic Cause as to set themselves against their Heretical Ruler Christians are Non tenentur Christiant in ● non debeat cum evidente periculo Religionis tolerare regem infidelem Idem p 94. not bound indeed they ought not to tolerate unbelieving King and all of our Principles are with them no better than Infidels if Religion be in any apparent danger They must not tolerate him but how shall it be helped There is scarce any Remedy left but the deposing him and then to make sure work they must either put him into a safe Prison or send him into a cold Grave Now lest this Position of his should be decried as strange and novel being so contrary to the practice of the Primitive Christians who without question were the best Subjects in the world he presently answers that they were not either to be thanked for or imitated in their Obedience since it was matter of Constraint rather than Choice And if they deposed not Nero the Cruel Quod si Christiani olim non deposuerunt Neronem Dioclesianum Julianum Apostatam
upon them is that the People committed to their charge may be instructed therein for the conviction of their Judgments and the regulation of their Practice Nay lest such Teaching should not produce an effect answerable to the desires of these good men but people should still take a liberty of Believing and Asserting what they list there is a severe Censure to be inflicted upon such irregular Can. 2 persons for their punishment Whosoever shall affirm that the Kings Majesty hath not the same Authority in Causes Ecclesiastical for in Temporal our Adversaries will grant it more than what they can hook in by In ordine ad spiritualia that the godly Kings had among the Jews and Christian Emperors in the Primitive Church which is the same we plead for or impeach in any part his Regal Supremacy let him be Excommunicated So little do any of our Church Constitutions derogate from the Kings Power that they establish it both by their positive Command to have it preached and received as true Christian Doctrine and the Opposers of it thrown out of the Churches Bosom as not fit for the Society of Christian men And now Sir I cannot imagine there wants any From the P●actice of her Children thing for your further satisfaction unless it be to consider how the Practice of the Children of this Church hath agreed with the excellent Rules delivered unto them For although their Miscarriages could not justly be charged upon her yet we shall find that these Rules have had so great an Influence upon them as they have never dared to engage in any concern against their Prince nor ever been wanting in the manifestation of a due Obedience unto him Be not therefore I beseech you deceived with the vain Pretences of the Romish Party who tell you openly in some of their Books There have been more seditious Insurrections since the Reformation of Religion than were in some hundreds of years before For as there is no reason to take their bare word for it so no more are we engaged to vindicate any but those of our own Church I dare not undertake to justifie all the Proceedings of the Hugonots in France much less of the Kirk-party in Scotland but for the Sons of our Holy Mother of England let them if they can produce any Accusation against us and we are ready to submit to a fair Trial. The ordinary things pleaded are the late Rebellion and the Death of our Royal Martyr neither of which touch us any further than as our sins added to the rest filled up the Number and provoked God to make use of such Instruments for the executing his wrath as startled not at the most excerable Villanies in the world It is notoriously known how many Persons of Honour and Quality out of mere conscience attended that poor injured Prince from place to place during the unnatural War and paid their Service to his Son our now Gracious Sovereign throughout the many years of his calamitous Exile What Numbers spent their Estates and sacrific'd their Lives with all the generous Alacrity in the world to maintein the Distressed Kings Cause had Heaven given success to their loyal Endeavours How many Thousands might we reckon up who fought valiantly fell gallantly and spent their dearest bloud in the asserting his Majesties just Rights against all the Abettors of Rebellion Whereas those who either fomented the War or were afterwards active in the carrying it on had receded from true Protestant Principles and sucked in those pernicious Doctrins from Scotland which she had infectiously drawn either from Rome or Geneva It is not barely upon my own credit that this Truth begs your Belief take it from King Charles his incomparable Pen who being the Sufferer might best distinguish between his Friends and Foes The Scandal of the late Troubles which some may object and urge to you writing to the then Prince of Wales against the Protestant Religion established in England is easily answered to them or your own thoughts in this that scarce any one who hath been a Beginner or an active Prosecutor of this late War against the Church the Laws and Me either was or is a true Lover Embracer or Practiser of the Protestant Religion which neither gives such Rules nor ever before set such Examples And for the Death of that Royal Martyr the remembrance whereof we so much detest as to keep an Anniversary Humiliation upon that day Malice itself dares not lay it at our Door But if you would indeed be satisfied what mischievous Wretches carried on this bloudy Design brought Majesty to bleed on the Scaffold and openly acted such a piece of Villany as the Sun never beheld since Christs Crucifixion They were in plain terms the Papists and the Sectaries who like Sampson's Foxes have their Tails tied together though their Heads seem far asunder For the Papists I shall satisfie you in their Activity afterward For the Sectaries the Proof against them is but too evident and for those of the more refined sort who have confidence enough with Pilate to call for water and wash their hands and say they are innocent from his bloud yet their own Actions testifie against them both before and after that dreadful Blow was given And what horrid Encouragements to and Justifications of that abominable Act fell from the Mouths of those who were then the Godly Preachers of the Gospel remain upon Record Not to surfeit you with such coarse Diet take but a Tast in two or three passages of some eminently esteemed Persons though their Names shall be spared When Meroz had been cursed from one Fast-Day to another and thereby men seduced to take Arms against their Prince called in their sacred Dialect Agoing to the help of the Lord against the Mighty Then were the people of this Kingdom possessed with strange Apprehensions of the King and his Party some telling us it was their Design to root out all Religion I know saith one among them how unsatisfied many are concerning the unlawfulness of the War which hath been managed As I cannot yet perceive by any thing they object but that we undertook our Defence upon warrantable Grounds so am I most certain that God hath wonderfully appeared through the whole And as I am certain by sight and sense That the Extirpation of Piety was the then great Design So am I most certain that this was the Work which we took up Arms to resist The fault was that we would not die quietly nor lay down our Necks more gently upon the Block nor more willingly change the Gospel for Ignorance nor our Religion for a Fardle of Ceremonies with several things to the same purpose Others declared their Fears of a Tyrannical and Arbitrary Government but the greatest Number like the unruly Assembly at Ephesus knew not wherefore they were gathered Acts 19. 32. together When the Sword had for some years been glutted with Bloud mens minds at least appeared a little more composed
Offers of Peace were made and a Treaty managed where Another whom afterwards his Masters rewarded but unkindly uttered these bitter Expressions in his Sermon Whilst our Enemies go on in their wicked Practices and whilst we keep our Principles we may as soon make Fire and Water to agree and I had almost said reconcile Heaven and Earth as their spirits and ours Either they must grow better or we must grow worse before it is possible for us to agree Where I cannot omit the Observation of an 〈…〉 l. 3 c. 2. p●g 1●6 Ingenious Gentleman that our Dear Prince was beheaded just the day four years aften this Sermon was preached This and such like Stuff struck at length the Kings Head from his Shoulders and though some upon sight of their Errors repented yet when a disorderly Government had for several years appear'd among us in monstrous shapes still the doings of those Usurpers were commended by others and large Harangues made upon solemn occasions to express the Nations Happiness under them One more particularly I have taken notice of and not a little wondred at Worthy Patriots saith the Preacher Anno 1656. you that are Rulers in this Parliament 't is often said we live in times wherein we may be as good as we please wherein we enjoy in purity and plenty the Ordinances of Jesus Christ Praised be God for this even that God who hath delivered us from the Imposition of Prelatical Innovations Altar-Genuflexions and Cringings with Crossings and all that Popish Trash and Trumpery And truly I speak no more than what I have often thought and said the removal of these unsupportable Burdens countervails for the Bloud and Treasure shed and spent in these late Distractions Did the Gentleman think you remember that the King was murthered almost eight years before this Pulpit-Caress And did the Removal of those Burdens countervail for his Bloud too Nor did I as yet ever hear of any godly men that desired were it possible to purchase their Friends sure that blessed King had a great many good men that were his Friends or Money again at so Dear a Rate as with the Return of these to have those soul-burdening Antichristian Yokes imposed upon us So that though the King was barbarously taken from us yet better lose him than have a Resettlement of the antient Church-Service and Discipline for any other Thoughts would argue the wickedness of our Hearts If any such there be I am sure that Desire is no part of their Godliness and I profess my self in that to be none of the Number By these three Testimonies from the Pens of three great Persons you may judge how far that Party was concerned in the bloudy and dreadful Tragedy And now I suppose you will favourably allow the first of my Assertions proved The strict Obedience charged by the Church of England upon all her Children The second will as evidently appear That the Church Prop. II. of Rome allows those of her Communion an unreasonable Latitude in the same point of Obedience and Duty freeing them from the Obligations which God hath laid upon the Conscience for it is plain that she exempts her Ecclesiastics from the Jurisdiction of the Civil Magistrate referring them altogether to the Popes Censure upon the Commission of any fault She maintains those pernitious Doctrins of Excommunicating Deposing and murdering Kings for promoting the Cause of Religion She allows the Pope a Power of absolving all Subjects from their Allegiance and gives him a Right to dispose of the Kingdoms of Heretical Princes And if we look upon the Practices of the Romanists we shall find them exactly fitted to these Maxims that they have been are and in all probability will be a Turbulent sort of people despising Dominions and speaking evil of Dignities ●u●e 8. For the Exemption of Ecclesiastical Persons from the Proved ● By the Exe●ption of Eccl●●●astics from ●● civil ●ower Civil Magistrates Jurisdiction it is a received Doctrin among them In their so much famed Council of Trent when the Fathers there fell upon the Reformation of Princes several things were upon the Wheel Like careful men of themselves they propounded largely in favour of Ecclesiastical Immunities That such Persons might not be judged in a Secular Court though there should be some doubt of their Clerkship or though History of the Council of Trent l. 8 p. 769 770. themselves consent notwithstanding it were under pretence of Public Vtility or Service of the King That neither the Emperour Kings nor any Prince whatsoever should make Edicts or Constitutions in what manner soever concerning Ecclesiastical Causes or Persons nor meddle with their Persons Causes Jurisdictions or Tribunals no not in the Inquisition but shall be bound to afford the Secular Arm to Ecclesiastical Judges That the Temporal Jurisdiction of the Ecclesiastics though with mere and mixt power shall not be disturbed nor their Subjects drawn to the Secular Tribunal in Causes Temporal All that excellent Device concluding with a Command under the pain of Anathema That No Prince should either directly or indirectly under any Pretence whatsoever suffer any thing to be Enacted against the Persons or Goods of the Clergy or against their Liberty any Priviledges or Exemptions though Immemorial notwithstanding It is true this was opposed and so in some measure quashed by the briskness of the Emperours and French Kings Embassadors and thereby proceeded not to the height they designed however it argued the daring Confidence of the Attempters the assurance they had of favourable Reception at Rome and the Priviledges they either ought or would willingly have enjoyed And whatsoever passed they gained a great deal more than either they deserved or could challenge But to omit what can be gathered from this Flourish and not insist upon things dubious we refer the Cause to Bellarmin and o●fer to stand to his Arbitrement The No● possunt Cleric●● 〈◊〉 S●cul●ri judica●i e●iam si l●ges Civiles no● se●v●nt 〈◊〉 l. de Cle●icis l. ● c. 2● p. ●p 3. Clergy saith he cannot be judged before a Secular Magistrate though they observe not the Laws in Civil Affairs for that I suppose he means by Leges Civiles And when upon further discoursing the Point he mentions the Apostles indispensable Charge Let every soul be subject to the higher Powers Rom 13. 1. I must confess his Answer to it is as much below himself had not his Interest been concerned as can possibly be imagined He will have that way of arguing to conclude nothing because sometimes one Power Nihil e●ra●iocinatio●e o●●li d● is higher sometimes another But be it as it will the Pope never loseth his Power therefore he infers Because the Bishop of Rome hath exempted Quo●iam summus Pontifex Clericos o●n●s exemit à subjectione Principum Secularium sequitur ut respectu Cleric rum Principes non su●t potestat●s superiores ac ●roinde non teneantur Clerici Pri●cipi●us p●rere