Selected quad for the lemma: cause_n

Word A Word B Word C Word D Occurrence Frequency Band MI MI Band Prominent
cause_n authority_n great_a king_n 1,863 5 3.5392 3 false
View all documents for the selected quad

Text snippets containing the quad

ID Title Author Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication) STC Words Pages
A72527 The relection of a conference touching the reall presence. Or a bachelours censure of a masters apologie for Doctour Featlie. bachelours censure of a masters apologie for Doctour Featlie. / By L.I. B. of Art, of Oxford. Lechmere, John.; Lechmere, Edmund, d. 1640? Conference mentioned by Doctour Featly in the end of his Sacrilege. 1635 (1635) STC 15351.3; ESTC S108377 255,450 637

There are 2 snippets containing the selected quad. | View lemmatised text

alloquitur haec definitio non placet age praesta te Magistrum nos doce quid aliud vocatio Dei esse possit quando Deus vocat dicit appellat nominat Hoc verbum Dei est cum inquit Hoc est corpus meum sicut in Genesi ait Fiat lux fit lux Deus est qui nominat seu vocat quicquid nominat id illico praesto est vt Psalm 33 testatur dixit facta sunt Ibidem Item Irenaeus ait Quomodo autem rursus dicunt carnem in corruptionem deuenire non percipere vitam quae à corpore sanguine Domini alitur Hic iterum audimus corpus nostrum eo cibari corpore sanguine Domini vt in aeternum viuat non corrumpatur vt Haeretici somniabant Irenaeus loquitur de corporali manducatione cibatione corporis tamen vult cibum illum esse corpus sanguinem Domini Ibidem He brings there also the Sacramentarians Euasions and refutes them out of Irenaeus words cleere plaine in so much that it cānot Si quispiam mihi persuadere potuisset in sacramēto praeter panē verum ego captum me video nulla euadendi via relicta textus enim Euangelij nimis apereus est potens Epist ad Argentin habetur tomo 7. in Epist Farrag be auoided auouching withall that it was the Fathers tenet So likewise doth Melancthon Melancth l. de Ver. Corp. Quid fiet in tentatione cum disputabit conscientia quam habuerit caussam dissentiendi à recepta sententia in Ecclesia Tunc verba ista hoc est corpus meum fulmina erunt Ibidem Sequor saith he veteris ecclesiae sententiam quae affirmat adesse corpus in coena ac iudico hanc habere Scripturae testimonium I follow the sentence of the auncient Church which affirmes the bodie to be presēt in the supper I iudge it to haue the testimonie of Scripture Those who stood on Featlies side were such as by Apostacie had gonne out of the true Church Archidiaconus Andegauensis anno 1035. Docuit paruulos non esse baptizandos teste Guit mundo eiusdem temporis scriptore Hanc autem Haeresim esse constat vniuersalis ecclesiae testimonio idemque fatentur Angli Protestantes Berengarius who Malmesb. l. 3. recanted Sacerdos Pastor de Lutterworth anno 1371. Wickleff Archidiaconus VVittembergensis Lutheri discipulus Carolstadius Pastor Tigurinus Swinglius Ex monacho Apostata Oecolampadius Nouiodunensis Deus adeo hunc Haereticum percussit vt desperata salute daemonibus inuocatis iurans execrans blasphemans miserrimè animam malignam exhalarit Schlussel in Theol. Calu. fol. 72. idemque testatur Hieron Bolsecus in eius vita That Luther Caluin Swinglius Carolstadius Oecolampadius had beene Papists as they speake before they fell into their Heresies is declared out of their owne authors in the booke de Auth. Prot. eccles l. 2. c. 11. Caluin See the Censure pag. 274. Iudas and that great Apostata the See the Censure pag. 274. Deuil I do not mention Touching this Bertrame reade the Plea for the Reall Presence against Sir Humfrey Linde by I. O. Bertram because he that makes any speach in him Caluinisticallie Protestāt in this matter doth withall make him cōtradict himself it is the same of that Concerning this Homilie and the Author see the Prudentiall Balance l. 1. c 19. in Odo and Alfrick c. 22. n. 4. Homilie which is cited as Elfricks and thereby casts him of The Iudge of Controuersies is according to our Aduersaries themselues either the scripture or the Spirit If wee goe with the Controuersie to the Scripture to our Sauiour speaking in it the cause is ours This is my bodie which is broken for you Which words if they be certainlie true in a proper and literall sence then wee are to yeeld the whole cause reall Presence propitiatorie Sacrifice and Adoration saith D. Mortō the last who wrot in England before Waferer of this subiect I haue said oft and now repeate the same againe that the litterall sence or letter cannot be retained in these words of Christ Cited p. 293. This is my bodie without establishing the Papisticall transubstantiation saith Beza If we go with the Controuersie to the Spirit in the Church we gaine the Cause too for all knowne Churches in Luthers time did beleeue and professe it If to the Spirit in the first Protestantes Luther and his Disciples the Cause is ours If wee consider diligentlie the circumstances of the text 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 and 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 my owne bodie that which is deliuered broken crucified for you and of the blood in like manner vt supra pag. 11. wee are more and more confirmed in our tenet If wee reade the Fathers wee finde thē to be ours the Lord of Plessis Mornay had obiected out of them by the help of his Ministers what he could but he is fullie answered by the worthie Cardinall Peron in a iust tome of this subiect onlie which booke he were to refute that would laie claime to Antiquitie in behalf of the Sacramentarian Heresie Moreouer that our tenet of the Reall presence of our Sauiours bodie vnder the signes was the tenet of Antiquitie the Church tells vs the Church I say in Luthers daies and before a thousand yeers together in which Church there haue beene innumerable great Schollers examining Recordes reading the Fathers comparing and considering the text of Scripture and this Church tells vs the Fathers their predecessors taught them as they teach vs. Why should wee not beleeue them in a matter so plainlie deliuered in the Scripture rather then Daniel Featlie or Oecolampadius or Iohn Caluin If you will moue vs with Authoritie bring greater Authoritie If you will moue vs with Scripture bring plainer Scripture and more worlds openlie in plaine termes interpreting it against vs. The Authoritie of one Deuine of a Nation will not serue against a world The Doctour obiecteth S. Augustine but against S. Augustine as hereafter will appeare He obiecteth Tertullian and Origen and against Tertullian and Origen they in this point were not diuided from the world But had Origen or Tertullian beene opposite in their opiniō who so mad as to follow them against so great an authoritie as the Church To oppose a lesse Authoritie to a greater thereby to think to winne the cause is absurd If Authoritie can moue the greater it is the more it moues To vrge against the Church the words of any in As when a man speakes of the practicall dictio or vocatio which is a making of the thing by saying it is or calling it by the name Ipse dixit facta sunt Lazare veni foras Adolescens tibi dieo surge to interprete h●s words of a meere speculatiue dictio or vocatio Qui est à terra panis percipiens vocationem Dei iam non communis panis est sed Eucharistia ex
pendentia RETIA dextra Nequicquam effudit nudum ad spectacula vultum Erigit tota fugit agnoscendus arena This is all Master Waferer I finde no more Victories in your booke yet one more he might get you think if to help you who hetherto haue endeuoured to helpe him he set on me But the meaner Scholler I am the greater he conceaues himself to be the lesse I neede to feare Genuinum fregit in illis Bigger are but butterflies in his esteeme and eagles you know catch not after flies In tauros Libyci ruunt leones Ne sint papilionibus molesti This motto he made to be inscribed in his Escocheon in the place where he tooke leaue of other Aduersaries to come to fight the combat which wee talke of You and I at most be but Seconds and if I be no better thē you verie poore ones Such as a Scholler without arrogancie may think no great honour to ouermatch If twentie yeere ago he were a match as you pretend for D. Smith the now Bishop of Chalcedon hath laboured and exercised himself in Controuersies euer since for him now to crush me were no conquest I am not I confesse more able then S. E. who did answer VVaferers Elogium of S. E his Notes which are aboue p. 9. seq you say but stammering lies so poorelie as not worth confutation his sophistrie is slender and boyish The ABC of Logick may teach him And would you haue your Doctour your Champion so much aboue S. E. to come and with his hoast of Paralogismes in your armour least he be knowne to set on me Egregiam vero laudem spolia ampla Yet howeuer it happen know this Master Waferer Statuam quam erexisti non adoramus I honour the truth I beleeue the Sonne of God I am a Catholike so assured of the diuine prouidence directing his Church that he who doth oppose it shall neuer be my Oracle Your censer shall not come into my hand though my Censure come into your Doctours and be perchance torne by it Apologist Sensere quid mens rite quid indoles Nutrita faustis sub penetralibus Posset Censure Nouimus expertis crede QVANTVS In clypeum assurgat quo turbine torqueat hastam Occidit óccidit Spes omnis Fortuna nostri Nominis Fuimus * Is the Barchelour a Brittan Troes fuit Ilium Apologist How vnlike then is this report that Smith could ouerbeare him If surelie he had no other tooles then these wherewith to quitte himself of those blowes were giuen him no question but he was soundlie hammered And whereas his Lordships Chaplaine seekes to salue vp the matter with this afterclap the Relation those which but ouerlooke it must needes confesse it hath donne him this second iniurie to publish his weaknes Censure Smith and toole and hammered quā frigid Was it so soone out of your mind that an impenetrable adamant suffereth nothing VVaf p. 94. whilst the hand which offereth it violence is disabled with it's owne blow This it is when a man hath the luck to light otherwile on a good metaphore but hath not wit enough to see where to put it Things come into your imagination as images thorough a little hole into a dark roome where men are seene walking with their heeles vpward To rectifie them arte is necessarie there and reflexion heere which if the Reader vse he will finde my Lorde aboue and your Doctor vnder in the combat And these two Writings of S. E. and the Bachelour that speaks to you to be so farre from discouering any weaknes that had our pens beene answerable to his worth this booke might remaine to posteritie a liuing monument of his successe in the Dispute But this our paines to him was not needfull himself thereby did prouide vnto himself a fairer in the soule of M. Kneuet who taking light and conceauing life in the Conference and ●ince dead in peace is engaged now to thanke him in eternitie Apologist Doctor Featlies able seruice to Gods Church is farre to eminent to be eclipsed by anie Doway Satyre Censure In these times when Mirth writes Diuinitie I may saie as the Satyrist did Difficile est Satyram non scribere though the Readers will finde the booke of S. E. to be farre from that nature Whilst you talke heere of your Doctours seruice to eminent to be eclipsed you bring againe into our mind how partiallie not to saie absurdlie you exalt him so high as to thinke his excellencie appeares vnto the world and how irreligiouslie you haue incensed so many lines all in this Pamphlet to the Chimera of his opinion which you think sits in Maiestie within the clowdes Caput inter nuhila condit See aboue pag 448 and pag. 120. Apologist The Papists doctrine teacheth a prittie kind of deceit called equiuocation Censure That which is properlie equiuocation hath for it the authoritie of God and man No booke I do not excepte Scripture but hath it One thing there is which some think is others think is not indeed equiuocation that I meane which you glaunce at when you speake of mentall reseruation which howeuer it may haue priuate abbetters as other opinions haue is no tenet of the Church But answer me one Question Master Waferer He that should saie this is my bodie when he meant onlie that it was the figure of his bodie should he not equiuocate And if a world of sincere people taking his words plainlie as they come without explication from his mouth should be deceaued by this equiuocation what would be thought of it Reflect vpon the matter well The lie which you adde to this your Censure of equiuouocation is censured els-where it is this that the Papists Doctrine will not stick to license the lowdest lie so it be aduantagious to the cause of Rome Apologist Supra pag. 526 There haue beene those impudent pens which durst traduce the most eminent patternes of Christianitie and affirme that worthie B●za and Doctor King recanted their Religion with their last breath Censure If they did the better it was for them Whether M. Whether M.T. B. reconciled Doctor King as I haue heard or did not imports not our cause Lupus the prouerb saies pilum mutat non mentem As for Beza what a patterne of Christianitie he was being a Protestant this white paper will not haue me paint vpon it Some thing of him of the rest of your great patternes out of Protestant Authours you may reade in Master a. Protestants Apologie At their names in the Index you haue direction to the places See also Luthers life c. with a further discourse touching Melancthon B●cer Beza c. By the same Author printed at ● Ome●● anno 1624 Brierleys booke and more might easilie be added fowler then the inke that were to characterize it if men were disposed to drawe them to the life Such goblins you should see walking at once did the print conspire in