be_v simple_o forbid_v to_o all_o christian_n both_o in_o civil_a &_o ecclesiastical_a government_n now_o to_o apply_v these_o more_o near_o by_o the_o authority_n the_o bishop_n have_v in_o this_o realm_n a_o matter_n so_o impugn_a by_o these_o man_n it_o can_v be_v resemble_v unto_o economical_a albeit_o in_o some_o sense_n a_o bishop_n be_v call_v the_o father_n of_o those_o in_o his_o charge_n and_o the_o husband_n of_o that_o church_n whereof_o he_o be_v bishop_n &_o that_o for_o two_o cause_n first_o in_o that_o his_o authority_n be_v not_o contain_v in_o the_o strait_n of_o one_o family_n but_o reach_v over_o many_o several_a family_n and_o congregation_n of_o people_n another_o for_o that_o the_o bishop_n authority_n be_v tie_v by_o law_n not_o only_o what_o not_o to_o do_v but_o he_o be_v appoint_v also_o what_o to_o do_v whereas_o economical_a authority_n have_v no_o public_a law_n positive_a command_v a_o man_n how_o to_o govern_v his_o family_n but_o only_o negative_a what_o they_o may_v not_o do_v in_o that_o government_n as_o not_o to_o wound_v nor_o kill_v wife_n child_n nor_o servant_n etc._n etc._n as_o for_o supreme_a authority_n whether_o civil_a or_o ecclesiastical_a absolute_a or_o limit_v our_o bishop_n neither_o have_v nor_o claim_v it_o be_v that_o which_o they_o condemn_v in_o the_o pope_n by_o this_o place_n as_o well_o for_o that_o as_o successor_n of_o the_o apostle_n he_o claim_v both_o sword_n &_o all_o earthly_a kingdom_n to_o be_v his_o to_o dispose_v sinon_fw-la actu_fw-la saltem_fw-la habitu_fw-la as_o bellarmin_n distinguish_v as_o for_o that_o in_o matter_n ecclesiastical_a he_o claim_v and_o usurp_v not_o only_a seigneuriall_n but_o even_o tyrannical_a authority_n for_o he_o say_v he_o may_v judge_v all_o and_o be_v judge_v by_o none_o may_v carry_v million_o of_o soul_n to_o hell_n and_o none_o may_v say_v to_o he_o domine_fw-la curita_fw-la facis_fw-la sir_n why_o do_v you_o so_o may_v command_v angel_n to_o carry_v and_o recarry_v soul_n at_o his_o pleasure_n may_v pardon_v sin_n past_a &_o to_o come_v for_o so_o long_a or_o short_a a_o time_n as_o he_o list_v and_o in_o matter_n of_o ecclesiastical_a live_n nay_o in_o all_o cause_n may_v do_v what_o he_o listen_v and_o therefore_o be_v just_o condemn_v by_o this_o place_n as_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d one_o exercise_v a_o lordly_a absolute_a and_o tyrannous_a authority_n there_o rest_v then_o unto_o bishop_n of_o this_o realm_n none_o other_o but_o subordinate_a or_o delegated_a authority_n which_o they_o have_v partly_o from_o god_n partly_o from_o the_o sovereign_a christian_n magistrate_n from_o god_n they_o have_v either_o first_o to_o plant_v or_o else_o to_o govern_v and_o direct_a church_n already_o plant_v to_o ordain_v minister_n and_o deacons_n and_o likewise_o the_o use_n of_o the_o key_n either_o by_o lose_v the_o penitent_a according_a to_o god_n word_n or_o bind_v the_o impenitent_a which_o last_o be_v do_v by_o admonition_n reprehension_n suspension_n excommunication_n and_o by_o anathematisme_n the_o three_o first_o of_o which_o censure_n be_v with_o we_o even_o in_o practice_n common_a to_o all_o minister_n of_o the_o word_n so_o far_o as_o suspension_n be_v take_v for_o debar_v from_o the_o sacrament_n of_o the_o supper_n the_o last_o two_o though_o by_o all_o practice_n of_o antiquity_n in_o pure_a time_n they_o be_v principal_o and_o especial_o attribute_v to_o bishop_n yet_o not_o so_o but_o that_o other_o minister_n of_o the_o word_n unto_o which_o the_o key_n be_v annex_v may_v not_o unlawful_o herein_o concur_v with_o they_o if_o the_o law_n of_o the_o church_n for_o weighty_a cause_n do_v not_o otherwise_o dispose_v which_o they_o have_v do_v here_o in_o england_n as_o i_o take_v it_o by_o reason_n of_o the_o sundry_a civil_a effect_n which_o excommunication_n and_o anathematisme_n by_o law_n do_v work_v and_o be_v such_o as_o without_o great_a inconvenience_n and_o confusion_n can_v be_v permit_v to_o every_o minister_n in_o his_o cure_n that_o have_v but_o slender_a skill_n no_o direction_n of_o law_n in_o this_o behalf_n none_o authentic_a seal_n to_o certify_v of_o record_n nor_o temporality_n to_o be_v seize_v for_o not_o performance_n of_o the_o queen_n writ_n that_o lie_v in_o such_o case_n as_o the_o cautione_n admittenda_fw-la de_fw-la excommunicato_fw-la deliberando_fw-la etc._n etc._n and_o these_o former_a be_v the_o point_n wherein_o bishop_n authority_n be_v from_o god_n and_o not_o of_o man_n but_o now_o from_o the_o sovereign_a prince_n by_o the_o mediate_a of_o law_n bishop_n have_v set_v down_o unto_o they_o the_o place_n where_o the_o compass_n of_o territory_n how_o far_o the_o manner_n how_o with_o other_o circumstance_n of_o execute_v both_o the_o former_a authority_n and_o also_o their_o jurisdiction_n likewise_o they_o have_v assistance_n of_o their_o jurisdiction_n sundry_a way_n from_o the_o prince_n and_o law_n for_o the_o sound_a execution_n thereof_o and_o better_a bridle_n of_o offender_n as_o to_o burn_v a_o heretic_n to_o imprison_v a_o person_n obstinate_o remain_v excommunicate_a above_o 40._o day_n with_o such_o like_a last_o they_o have_v the_o head_n and_o matter_n wherein_o their_o jurisdiction_n be_v occupy_v by_o and_o from_o the_o christian_a magistrate_n authority_n in_o who_o as_o supreme_a governor_n all_o jurisdiction_n within_o her_o dominion_n aswell_o ecclesiastical_a as_o civil_a by_o god_n and_o man_n law_n be_v invest_v such_o matter_n in_o this_o church_n of_o england_n so_o attribute_v to_o bishop_n be_v cause_n of_o title_n of_o benefice_n matter_n of_o maintenance_n for_o minister_n uphold_v of_o church_n and_o churchyard_n of_o matrimonial_a contract_n and_o divorce_n testamentary_a diffamatorie_n where_o there_o be_v breach_n of_o charity_n and_o none_o action_n lie_v thereupon_o at_o the_o common_a law_n or_o last_o punish_v of_o sundry_a crime_n term_v ecclesiastical_a be_v such_o as_o be_v not_o at_o all_o punishable_a at_o the_o common_a law_n or_o else_o be_v leave_v by_o law_n to_o be_v punish_v by_o either_o authority_n and_o in_o this_o respect_n may_v this_o part_n of_o bishoply_n function_n not_o untrue_o be_v say_v to_o be_v derive_v from_o the_o supreme_a christian_a magistrate_n authority_n and_o supremacy_n which_o they_o have_v under_o god_n by_o which_o may_v appear_v both_o the_o undutifulnes_n of_o popish_a bishop_n and_o of_o the_o factious_a consistorial_o the_o first_o whereof_o derive_v their_o jurisdiction_n ecclesiastical_a within_o all_o christian_a kingdom_n from_o the_o pope_n and_o the_o other_o will_v needs_o derive_v they_o immediate_o from_o god_n and_o that_o in_o large_a manner_n and_o in_o more_o matter_n than_o bishop_n in_o england_n may_v any_o way_n exercise_n for_o they_o of_o the_o faction_n attribute_v therein_o no_o more_o unto_o sovereign_a prince_n but_o to_o be_v govern_v in_o that_o behalf_n by_o they_o and_o to_o defend_v the_o exercise_n thereof_o by_o their_o temporal_a sword_n whereas_o our_o bishop_n can_v make_v any_o new_a ecclesiastical_a decree_n without_o the_o prince_n authority_n both_o precedent_n and_o subsequent_a and_o in_o the_o whole_a course_n of_o their_o function_n be_v tie_v strict_o and_o precise_o to_o observation_n of_o due_a course_n of_o law_n which_o if_o either_o negligent_o or_o wilful_o they_o shall_v violate_v it_o be_v remediable_a by_o appellation_n the_o last_o resort_n wherein_o be_v to_o the_o sovereign_a prince_n herself_o who_o hear_v and_o final_o determine_v it_o by_o her_o judge_n delegated_a so_o that_o by_o this_o discourse_n it_o plain_o appear_v that_o our_o bishop_n neither_o claim_n nor_o yet_o exercise_v any_o civil_a authority_n at_o all_o as_o bishop_n that_o their_o authority_n ecclesiastical_a be_v but_o subordinate_a under_o god_n and_o the_o prince_n moderate_v exact_o both_o positive_o and_o privative_o by_o good_a law_n derive_v for_o the_o most_o part_n from_o the_o prince_n and_o reformable_a by_o she_o not_o supreme_a not_o absolute_a not_o tyrannical_a not_o seigneuriall_n nor_o lorde_o according_a to_o the_o ruler_n lust_n and_o therefore_o no_o way_n touch_v or_o mean_v much_o less_o by_o these_o place_n condemn_v as_o the_o demonstrator_n assumption_n more_o bold_o then_o either_o skilful_o or_o true_o import_v but_o out_o of_o these_o ground_n thus_o we_o reason_n and_o bend_v the_o nose_n of_o the_o cannon_n against_o themselves_o if_o the_o bishop_n authority_n be_v condemn_v by_o these_o two_o place_n as_o they_o will_v infer_v then_o be_v all_o great_a and_o more_o absolute_a authority_n exercise_v by_o person_n ecclesiastical_a much_o more_o to_o be_v condemn_v but_o yourselves_o do_v claim_v and_o exercise_v great_a and_o more_o absolute_a authority_n than_o the_o bishop_n namely_o to_o have_v your_o consistoriall_a jurisdiction_n not_o derive_v from_o the_o prince_n authority_n but_o supreme_a under_o god_n and_o that_o in_o all_o
cause_n of_o doctrine_n or_o manner_n so_o far_o as_o appertain_v to_o conscience_n to_o make_v law_n and_o order_n ecclesiastical_a without_o her_o knowledge_n or_o consent_n to_o sit_v and_o determine_v as_o yourselves_o judge_v best_o without_o any_o guide_n of_o law_n to_o have_v your_o sentence_n once_o give_v to_o stand_v in_o force_n though_o they_o be_v appeal_v from_o until_o they_o be_v in_o the_o last_o instance_n reverse_a to_o excommunicate_v your_o sovereign_n &_o consequent_o to_o discharge_v yourselves_o for_o that_o time_n of_o all_o actual_a obedience_n to_o call_v your_o synod_n and_o classy_n without_o she_o write_v and_o to_o have_v the_o last_o appellation_n not_o to_o run_v unto_o the_o prince_n but_o unto_o a_o national_a synod_n all_o which_o be_v true_a note_n of_o sovereignty_n in_o jurisdiction_n be_v at_o least_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d lordly_a or_o seigneuriall_a if_o not_o tyrannical_a ergo_fw-la that_o which_o be_v by_o you_o claim_v and_o exercise_v be_v in_o deed_n by_o christ_n there_o condemn_v neither_o be_v it_o the_o bare_a civil_a title_n of_o lord_n which_o be_v give_v to_o bishop_n without_o any_o authority_n in_o that_o respect_n that_o will_v help_v you_o against_o we_o here_o for_o the_o scripture_n give_v not_o law_n to_o word_n but_o to_o the_o matter_n themselves_o you_o be_v lordlines_n in_o deed_n when_o you_o both_o practice_v these_o thing_n against_o her_o majesty_n royal_a supremacy_n and_o will_v have_v she_o to_o throw_v her_o sceptre_n down_o and_o to_o lick_v the_o dust_n of_o the_o foot_n of_o your_o church_n viz._n your_o presbytery_n a_o epitome_n or_o representation_n of_o every_o several_a congregation_n or_o church_n the_o 3._o demonstration_n they_o that_o may_v not_o be_v lord_n over_o god_n people_n much_o less_o may_v be_v lord_n over_o the_o minister_n demonstration_n demonstration_n who_o be_v above_o the_o people_n but_o the_o first_o be_v true_a ergo_fw-la the_o second_o to_o the_o mayor_n the_o mayor_n with_o a_o little_a more_o help_n will_v make_v themselves_o lord_n remonstrance_n remonstrance_n for_o i_o do_v assure_v you_o this_o no_o bishop_n be_v lord_n over_o the_o people_n but_o a_o lord_n in_o respect_n of_o his_o own_o baronrie_n it_o be_v more_o to_o be_v above_o the_o people_n in_o deed_n then_o to_o be_v a_o lord_n unto_o the_o people_n in_o phrase_n of_o speech_n or_o obsequious_a word_n now_o forsooth_o the_o minister_n be_v above_o the_o people_n that_o be_v their_o better_n and_o in_o authority_n over_o they_o as_o this_o mayor_n do_v import_v to_o the_o minor_n lordlines_n be_v one_o thing_n in_o malam_fw-la partem_fw-la lordship_n be_v another_o s._n peter_n say_v you_o forbid_v it_o 1._o pet._n 5.3_o on_o who_o you_o say_v we_o father_n lordlines_n to_o be_v lord_n of_o god_n heritage_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d nay_o peter_n write_v to_o the_o bishop_n or_o govern_v pastoral_a elder_n such_o as_o himself_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d i_o a_o fellow_n elder_n not_o to_o tyrannize_v over_o the_o flock_n but_o to_o be_v example_n to_o the_o faithful_a the_o place_n of_o peter_n and_o your_o collection_n make_v against_o yourselves_o retortion_n retortion_n to_o say_v minister_n may_v have_v dominion_n over_o the_o people_n but_o minister_n may_v not_o have_v dominion_n over_o minister_n that_o be_v minister_n may_v rule_v and_o not_o be_v rule_v the_o drift_n of_o the_o place_n be_v minister_n may_v not_o tyrannize_v or_o have_v absolute_a command_n over_o the_o people_n or_o over_o one_o another_o i_o refer_v i_o to_o the_o answer_n make_v to_o the_o second_o demonstration_n of_o this_o matter_n the_o 4._o allegation_n or_o demonstration_n it_o be_v ordain_v that_o every_o man_n fault_n must_v be_v hear_v remonstrance_n demonstra_fw-la cypr._n lib._n 1._o epi._n 3._o remonstrance_n where_o the_o accuser_n and_o witness_n be_v ergo_fw-la every_o minister_n have_v authority_n over_o his_o flock_n the_o illative_a be_v ergo_fw-la every_o bishop_n have_v his_o limit_a proper_a jurisdiction_n cyprian_n complain_v thus_o paucis_fw-la desperatis_fw-la minor_fw-la videtur_fw-la esse_fw-la authoritas_fw-la episcoporum_fw-la in_o africa_n certain_a desperate_a companion_n think_v worse_o of_o the_o bishop_n authority_n in_o africa_n then_o else_o where_o he_o find_v fault_n with_o those_o that_o go_v to_o rome_n out_o of_o the_o province_n not_o for_o go_v out_o of_o the_o parish_n with_o the_o cause_n as_o you_o insinuate_v the_o 5._o allegation_n bishop_n in_o all_o the_o world_n be_v equal_a to_o parish_n minister_n remonstrance_n demonstrat_n luth._o adver_v papat_fw-la à _fw-fr satana_n fundat_fw-la remonstrance_n some_o be_v of_o better_a gift_n which_o gift_n cause_v no_o lordship_n luther_n confute_v the_o supremacy_n of_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n papam_fw-la non_fw-la esse_fw-la caput_fw-la christianitatis_fw-la &_o dominum_fw-la mundi_fw-la and_o that_o all_o bishop_n whether_o of_o eugub_n or_o rome_n rheg_n or_o constantinople_n alexand_n tavis_fw-la be_v equal_a for_o the_o ministry_n and_o heir_n of_o the_o see_v apostolic_a the_o 6._o allegation_n the_o minister_n in_o the_o apostolic_a church_n none_o above_o other_o minist_n demonstrat_n muscu_n â—e_v come_v de_fw-fr verbi_fw-la minist_n be_v subject_a to_o no_o head_n nor_o precedent_n that_o be_v no_o universal_a head_n otherwise_o musculus_fw-la upon_o the_o 20._o remonstrance_n remonstrance_n of_o matth._n allow_v governor_n precedent_n ruler_n in_o the_o church_n the_o 7._o allegation_n a_o bishop_n take_v the_o honour_n from_o the_o minister_n 8.2_o demonstra_fw-la idem_fw-la super_fw-la 2._o thess_n 8.2_o be_v the_o first_o step_n to_o papacy_n that_o be_v translate_v from_o they_o to_o erect_v a_o new_a ministry_n remonstrance_n remonstrance_n or_o a_o illimitable_a authority_n in_o the_o church_n which_o a_o bishopric_n under_o the_o gospel_n be_v not_o neither_o of_o the_o 7._o step_n to_o papacy_n the_o 8._o allegation_n christ_n do_v forbid_v the_o apostle_n primacy_n and_o dominion_n holuet_fw-la demonstraet_n confess_v holuet_fw-la that_o be_v absolute_a worldly_a avaritious_a ambiti_fw-la ous_a dominion_n remonstrance_n remonstrance_n not_o all_o moderate_a government_n and_o authority_n whatsoever_o remonstrance_n remonstrance_n the_o 9_o allegation_n equal_a power_n be_v give_v to_o all_o minister_n save_v for_o order_n 18._o demonstrat_n confe_fw-mi hel._n c._n 18._o order_n include_v superiority_n and_o exclude_v not_o dignity_n remonstr_n remonstr_n nullus_fw-la dominium_fw-la in_o episcopos_fw-la usurpavit_fw-la the_o 1._o objection_n of_o the_o demonstrator_n christ_n 20._o demonstration_n demonstration_n matth._n 25._o v._n forbid_v ambition_n and_o not_o dominion_n as_o musculus_fw-la do_v expound_v answer_v of_o the_o demonstrator_n caluine_n and_o other_o expound_v it_o against_o superiority_n but_o admit_v that_o dominion_n be_v ambition_n because_o it_o cause_v a_o man_n to_o aspire_v above_o his_o fellow_n minister_n there_o be_v no_o wit_n in_o this_o misshape_a answer_n reply_n remonstrance_n with_o reply_n the_o objection_n do_v not_o permit_v so_o much_o unto_o you_o dominion_n in_o the_o better_a part_n take_v for_o rule_n be_v most_o contrary_v to_o ambition_n it_o must_v be_v unjust_a dominion_n that_o cause_v ambition_n as_o to_o conspire_v against_o his_o superior_a and_o to_o aspire_v to_o a_o high_a place_n or_o seat_n your_o factious_a study_n may_v be_v call_v ambition_n the_o 2._o objection_n of_o the_o demonstrator_n the_o greek_a word_n signify_v rule_v with_o oppression_n demonstration_n demonstration_n which_o be_v forbid_v answer_v of_o the_o demonstrator_n that_o be_v not_o so_o luke_n 22.25_o v._o use_v the_o single_a verb_n to_o rule_v the_o son_n of_o zebedee_n desire_v not_o to_o oppress_v but_o to_o rule_v it_o be_v certain_a reply_n remonstrance_n with_o reply_n one_o place_n must_v expound_v the_o other_o the_o tenor_n of_o the_o text_n expound_v all_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v one_o and_o consignificant_a term_n which_o be_v absolute_o tyrannous_o or_o ambitious_o to_o govern_v and_o rule_v or_o violent_o to_o rule_v and_o over-rule_v or_o else_o a_o absurd_a interpretation_n will_v follow_v of_o the_o word_n 19_o act._n 16._o v._n v._n 19_o act._n 16._o v._n the_o man_n in_o who_o the_o ill_a spirit_n be_v run_v upon_o the_o vagabond_n jew_n and_o overcome_v they_o and_o prevail_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d have_v violent_a dominion_n and_o mastery_n over_o they_o or_o 1._o pet._n 5.3_o v._n not_o as_o exercise_v a_o proud_a dominion_n over_o the_o lord_n heritage_n if_o the_o word_n signify_v not_o so_o s._n peter_n shall_v forewarn_v they_o of_o that_o which_o yourselves_o say_v be_v no_o fault_n therefore_o it_o be_v as_o clear_a as_o noon_n day_n the_o child_n of_o zebedee_n and_o the_o apostle_n be_v school_v for_o that_o same_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d contentious_a and_o ambitious_a desire_n of_o rule_v and_o that_o civil_o and_o absolute_o the_o 3._o objection_n of_o the_o demonstrator_n
episcopo_fw-la svo_fw-la nec_fw-la ecclesiasticam_fw-la disciplinam_fw-la cum_fw-la fide_fw-la &_o quiet_a iuxta_fw-la praecepta_fw-la domini_fw-la continerent_fw-la ut_fw-la relictis_fw-la domini_fw-la sacerdotibus_fw-la contra_fw-la euangelicam_fw-la disciplinam_fw-la nova_fw-la traditio_fw-la sacrilegae_fw-la institutionis_fw-la exurgat_fw-la note_v whether_o these_o word_n of_o cyprian_a concern_v not_o our_o time_n now_o it_o be_v clear_a whence_o t._n c._n his_o faction_n arise_v how_o it_o take_v root_n how_o it_o be_v harden_v he_o and_o his_o crew_n have_v withdraw_v certain_a who_o of_o good_a zeal_n profess_v the_o name_n of_o christ_n from_o the_o love_n and_o obedience_n of_o their_o superior_a or_o pastor_n or_o bishop_n and_o have_v dangerous_o draw_v they_o into_o contempt_n of_o ecclesiastical_a discipline_n to_o break_v from_o the_o faith_n and_o allegiance_n of_o the_o lord_n precept_n that_o by_o forsake_v of_o the_o lord_n his_o priest_n contrary_a to_o the_o evangelicall_a discipline_n they_o may_v begin_v a_o new_a platform_n of_o sacrilegious_a institution_n of_o their_o own_o discipline_n observe_v last_o of_o all_o that_o ecclesiastical_a discipline_n evangelicall_a discipline_n which_o s._n cyprian_n sound_v far_o otherwise_o then_o the_o new_a tetrarchie_n of_o doctor_n pastor_n elder_n and_o deacon_n discipline_n for_o it_o be_v take_v for_o the_o doctrine_n of_o christ_n and_o his_o apostle_n yet_o here_o of_o by_o the_o way_n we_o gather_v that_o such_o as_o break_v forth_o from_o the_o bishop_n government_n and_o censure_n as_o our_o schismatics_n do_v with_o great_a contempt_n that_o may_v be_v do_v offend_v against_o the_o commandment_n and_o the_o doctrine_n or_o discipline_n of_o the_o gospel_n and_o therefore_o a_o superiority_n of_o bishop_n be_v a_o divine_a institution_n by_o cyprian_n judgement_n who_o live_v not_o very_o long_o after_o the_o apostle_n time_n i_o may_v answer_v allegare_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la probare_fw-la allegation_n be_v no_o demonstration_n lest_o of_o all_o of_o humane_a authority_n and_o all_o this_o may_v be_v grant_v and_o nothing_o gain_v to_o the_o cause_n dominus_fw-la demonstrator_n do_v pass_v away_o in_o cloud_n of_o generality_n and_o conclude_v not_o the_o question_n so_o that_o in_o steed_n of_o 18._o demonstration_n there_o be_v 18._o monster_n some_o without_o head_n some_o without_o tail_n some_o without_o middle_n other_o without_o arm_n all_o without_o harm_n not_o able_a to_o affright_v the_o very_a fool_n that_o be_v with_o so_o much_o as_o a_o false_a fear_n of_o lose_v the_o impregnable_a fort_n of_o the_o truth_n of_o our_o cause_n *_o âŽ_o *_o caput_n secundum_fw-la in_o the_o second_o chapter_n follow_v certain_a maxim_n of_o their_o own_o or_o certain_a oracle_n of_o one_o t._n c._n tanquam_fw-la ex_fw-la tripod_n which_o if_o you_o will_v not_o take_v upon_o t.c._n his_o credit_n you_o may_v take_v it_o upon_o the_o credit_n of_o 20._o letter_n or_o take_v unto_o you_o the_o whole_a alphabet_n to_o make_v demonstration_n thereby_o the_o 1._o proposition_n no_o calling_n be_v lawful_a but_o which_o be_v direct_o warrant_v out_o of_o the_o word_n to_o he_o that_o execute_v it_o demonstration_n demonstration_n the_o 2._o proposition_n the_o name_n and_o office_n of_o a_o archbishop_n be_v contrary_a to_o the_o word_n of_o god_n the_o 3._o proposition_n no_o man_n may_v be_v ordain_v to_o a_o office_n until_o a_o place_n be_v void_a as_o he_o be_v fit_a for_o every_o one_o of_o these_o proposition_n have_v a_o special_a aim_n to_o the_o usual_a intend_a mark_n of_o a_o cavil_v sophister_n remonstrance_n remonstrance_n the_o 1._o be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d or_o mere_a trifle_n soph._n aristot_n de_fw-fr reprehend_v soph._n as_o aristotle_n say_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d like_a as_o a_o cuckoo_n to_o sing_v always_o one_o song_n as_o in_o the_o former_a chapter_n the_o demonstrator_n trifle_v up_o and_o down_o the_o 2._o be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d a_o false_a or_o stark_o stare_v lie_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d to_o make_v a_o demonstration_n of_o a_o lie_n the_o 3._o be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d a_o mere_a paradox_n which_o never_o any_o but_o of_o this_o new_a fantasy_n say_v before_o the_o say_n be_v a_o three_o twist_a cord_n will_v not_o easy_o break_v asunder_o but_o this_o thrice_o twist_a cable_n knap_v asunder_o if_o the_o demonstrator_n will_v only_o propound_v we_o may_v lawful_o return_v these_o proposition_n home_o again_o 1._o no_o calling_n be_v lawful_a but_o direct_o warrant_v to_o he_o that_o execute_v it_o all_o lay_v presbyteri_fw-la or_o unpreach_v eldership_n with_o the_o authority_n they_o attribute_v unto_o it_o be_v unwarrant_v direct_o by_o god_n word_n to_o they_o that_o do_v execute_v it_o ergo_fw-la no_o such_o calling_n be_v lawful_a 2._o no_o name_n of_o superiority_n for_o order_n and_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o the_o church_n be_v contrary_a to_o the_o word_n the_o name_n and_o office_n of_o archbishop_n archdeacon_n dean_n be_v such_o name_n and_o office_n of_o superiority_n ergo_fw-la no_o name_n and_o office_n of_o archbishop_n &_o archdeacon_n etc._n etc._n be_v contrary_a to_o the_o word_n 3._o paul_n barnabas_n epaphroditus_n andronicus_n junius_n and_o other_o be_v not_o forth_o with_o limit_a to_o a_o certain_a place_n but_o paul_n barnabas_n philip_n etc._n etc._n be_v ordain_v minister_n ergo_fw-la certain_a be_v ordain_v minister_n not_o limit_v to_o a_o place_n the_o 1._o demonstration_n which_o be_v a_o reason_n of_o this_o 1._o redoubt_a proposition_n if_o john_n be_v constrain_v to_o prove_v his_o ministry_n out_o of_o the_o word_n when_o the_o priest_n accuse_v he_o demonstration_n demonstration_n then_o there_o be_v no_o lawful_a call_n but_o warrant_v in_o the_o word_n but_o he_o prove_v his_o call_n ergo_fw-la no_o call_v lawful_a but_o which_o be_v warrant_v in_o the_o word_n to_o the_o antecedent_n this_o fallacy_n be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d of_o the_o consequent_a remonstrance_n remonstrance_n the_o sequel_n of_o the_o antecedent_n be_v to_o be_v deny_v which_o be_v in_o plain_a term_n this_o uz._n there_o be_v no_o call_n in_o the_o new_a but_o be_v first_o warrant_v by_o some_o prophecy_n of_o the_o old_a testament_n to_o the_o assumption_n but_o he_o prove_v his_o ministry_n whether_o he_o prove_v or_o do_v not_o prove_v whether_o he_o be_v accuse_v or_o not_o accuse_v the_o ministry_n of_o john_n be_v a_o lawful_a ministry_n their_o impeachment_n there_o of_o be_v not_o to_o hinder_v the_o execution_n of_o his_o ministry_n the_o warrant_v rather_o be_v the_o immediate_a commission_n from_o heaven_n and_o the_o prophecy_n that_o go_v of_o he_o to_o exercise_v his_o ministry_n how_o follow_v the_o argument_n à _fw-la facto_fw-la adius_fw-la or_o from_o their_o constraint_n to_o the_o warrantise_n of_o his_o call_n if_o any_o proof_n shall_v be_v draw_v for_o or_o against_o it_o can_v be_v other_o in_o consequence_n then_o this_o one_o extraordinary_a minister_n do_v upon_o occasion_n of_o those_o that_o cavilled_a at_o he_o prove_v his_o extraordinary_a call_n out_o of_o the_o word_n of_o god_n then_o every_o ordinary_a minister_n may_v against_o wrangler_n prove_v his_o ordinary_a ministry_n out_o of_o the_o word_n to_o be_v the_o ordinance_n of_o god_n even_o so_o do_v we_o or_o this_o johannes_n confessus_fw-la est_fw-la &_o non_fw-la negavit_fw-la 1.20_o john_n 1.20_o john_n do_v confess_v and_o deny_v not_o confess_v who_o he_o be_v and_o deny_v not_o who_o he_o be_v even_o so_o in_o humility_n we_o ought_v to_o do_v and_o semblable_o do_v unless_o it_o please_v you_o to_o argue_v after_o this_o sort_n out_o of_o the_o text_n these_o thing_n be_v do_v in_o bethany_n or_o bethabara_n beyond_o jordan_n or_o john_n prove_v his_o ministry_n in_o bethany_n or_o bethabara_n beyond_o jordan_n ergo_fw-la your_o ministry_n must_v be_v prove_v in_o bethany_n beyond_o jordan_n o_o than_o your_o reason_n have_v a_o further_o fetch_v beyond_o or_o on_o the_o other_o side_n of_o jericho_n or_o jordan_n or_o else_o better_a after_o this_o sort_n john_n exercise_v his_o ministry_n and_o prove_v it_o too_o without_o warranty_n of_o a_o outward_a call_n of_o any_o that_o sit_v in_o moses_n chair_n for_o the_o people_n hold_v he_o for_o a_o prophet_n ergo_fw-la you_o have_v a_o exercise_n of_o your_o ministry_n without_o a_o outward_a call_n and_o may_v run_v before_o you_o be_v send_v and_o the_o people_n hold_v your_o prophecy_n and_o baptism_n to_o be_v true_a but_o this_o will_v savour_n strong_o of_o anabaptisme_n i_o trow_v the_o 2._o demonstration_n the_o calling_n under_o the_o gospel_n must_v have_v as_o good_a warrant_n as_o the_o calling_n under_o the_o law_n demonstration_n demonstration_n but_o all_o calling_n under_o the_o law_n except_o miraculous_a have_v direct_a warrant_n ergo._n ridetur_fw-la chorda_fw-la qui_fw-la semper_fw-la oberrat_fw-la eadem_fw-la remonstrance_n remonstrance_n a_o
answer_v before_o cap._n 1._o not_o to_o concern_v any_o policy_n of_o elder_n remonstrance_n remonstrance_n but_o to_o keep_v the_o general_a commandment_n of_o the_o law_n of_o the_o spirit_n of_o life_n they_o may_v as_o well_o say_v that_o the_o commandment_n to_o drink_v no_o water_n be_v mean_v by_o that_o place_n the_o holy_a ghost_n have_v there_o wary_o use_v the_o singular_a number_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d which_o now_o you_o will_v make_v to_o pertain_v to_o the_o perpetuity_n of_o every_o thing_n contain_v in_o that_o epistle_n if_o it_o do_v so_o yet_o can_v it_o not_o help_v you_o for_o there_o be_v no_o such_o commandment_n for_o any_o such_o elder_n in_o that_o whole_a epistle_n no_o nor_o any_o mention_n by_o the_o way_n of_o they_o the_o 17._o demonstration_n that_o which_o be_v in_o every_o minister_n commission_n must_v be_v in_o every_o congregation_n demonstration_n demonstration_n but_o the_o ordination_n and_o practice_n of_o this_o office_n mat._n 28.20_o be_v so_o or_o else_o they_o ordain_v elder_n without_o warrant_n from_o christ_n ergo_fw-la they_o must_v be_v in_o every_o congregation_n exit_fw-la nihilo_fw-la nihil_fw-la fit_a of_o nothing_o come_v nothing_o remonstrance_n remonstrance_n this_o be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d a_o great_a space_n between_o these_o two_o go_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d make_v disciple_n or_o teach_v all_o nation_n ergo_fw-la make_v unpreach_v presbyter_n in_o all_o nation_n this_o the_o demonstrationer_n make_v the_o minister_n commission_n afore_o and_o be_v it_o now_o the_o commission_n for_o unteach_v elder_n to_o be_v ordain_v in_o every_o place_n the_o reason_n of_o the_o minor_a be_v false_a for_o neither_o make_v they_o any_o such_o elder_n in_o every_o congregation_n neither_o do_v their_o authority_n for_o ordination_n and_o sundry_a other_o point_n of_o church-gourernment_a depend_v only_o upon_o that_o commission_n which_o respect_v the_o ministry_n of_o the_o word_n and_o sacrament_n the_o 18._o demonstration_n where_o a_o bishop_n must_v be_v demonstration_n demonstration_n elder_n must_v be_v a_o bishop_n must_v be_v in_o every_o congregation_n ergo_fw-la elder_n this_o demonstration_n be_v no_o guest_n but_o a_o ordinary_a servant_n remonstrance_n remonstrance_n for_o this_o serve_v your_o turn_n often_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o one_o of_o these_o be_v no_o better_a know_v then_o the_o other_o there_o must_v be_v parish_n bishop_n ergo_fw-la parish_n elder_n and_o it_o follow_v not_o by_o any_o coherence_n any_o more_o than_o this_o there_o must_v be_v a_o constable_n in_o every_o town_n ergo_fw-la 24._o alderman_n the_o 19_o demonstration_n if_o the_o apostle_n establish_v one_o uniform_a order_n in_o all_o church_n demonstration_n demonstration_n than_o there_o must_v be_v elder_n in_o every_o congregation_n but_o the_o first_o be_v true_a ergo_fw-la the_o second_o for_o s._n paul_n say_v thus_o i_o teach_v in_o all_o congregation_n to_o the_o antecedent_n this_o be_v the_o fallacy_n of_o consequence_n remonstrance_n remonstrance_n the_o apostle_n do_v establish_v uniformity_n for_o essential_a point_n of_o discipline_n but_o leave_v not_o any_o policy_n for_o lay_v elder_n the_o consecution_n of_o the_o mayor_n be_v false_a can_v there_o be_v none_o uniformity_n except_o such_o your_o elder_n be_v every_o where_o appoint_v who_o indeed_o be_v nowhere_o to_o the_o assumption_n s._n paul_n may_v very_o well_o leave_v all_o point_n of_o wholesome_a doctrine_n all_o good_a order_n for_o the_o church_n but_o never_o institute_v the_o particularity_n of_o your_o discipline_n the_o 1._o objection_n of_o the_o demonstrator_n god_n have_v give_v sovereign_a authority_n over_o the_o church_n to_o christian_a magistrate_n demonstration_n demonstration_n which_o these_o elder_n will_v abridge_v answer_v of_o the_o demonstrator_n no_o more_o than_o the_o eldership_n in_o david_n time_n do_v abridge_v david_n sovereignty_n over_o all_o israel_n for_o his_o government_n be_v temporal_a they_o be_v spiritual_a o_o foolish_a answer_n remonstrance_n remonstrance_n and_o fond_a conceit_n of_o a_o imaginable_a elderdership_n in_o david_n time_n who_o can_v abide_v this_o master_n elder_n have_v spiritual_a government_n but_o king_n and_o queen_n nurse_v father_n and_o mother_n of_o the_o church_n have_v but_o civil_a and_o temporal_a government_n only_o o_o tempora_fw-la o_o mores_fw-la or_o as_o the_o learned_a discourse_n say_v the_o prince_n be_v but_o a_o feel_a member_n of_o the_o church_n the_o head_n and_o chief_a governor_n be_v the_o ecclesiastical_a alderman_n or_o presbytery_n of_o the_o church_n that_o you_o abridge_v the_o queen_n sovereignty_n be_v a_o little_a touch_v afore_o and_o shall_v more_o plain_o be_v show_v when_o you_o be_v at_o leisure_n to_o hear_v the_o 2._o objection_n of_o the_o demonstrator_n demonstration_n demonstration_n gualt_n 1._o cor._n 5._o deni_v the_o presbytery_n to_o be_v needful_a under_o a_o christian_n magistrate_n answer_v of_o the_o demonstrator_n gualther_n deni_v excommunication_n to_o be_v lawful_a under_o a_o christian_a magistrate_n he_o be_v as_o partial_a as_o d._n whitgift_n it_o may_v be_v gualther_n and_o other_o may_v deny_v it_o to_o be_v of_o the_o essence_n of_o a_o church_n or_o rash_a excommunication_n reply_n remonstrance_n with_o reply_n than_o the_o which_o nothing_o be_v more_o anabaptisticall_a or_o where_o hope_v of_o repentance_n be_v he_o be_v not_o partial_a nor_o he_o that_o take_v part_n in_o a_o good_a cause_n as_o for_o gualters_n opinion_n if_o he_o utter_o deny_v excommunication_n coelio_n pro_fw-la coelio_n nolo_fw-la cviusquam_fw-la fortis_fw-la &_o illustris_fw-la viri_fw-la vel_fw-la minimum_fw-la erratum_fw-la cum_fw-la maxima_fw-la laud_fw-la coniungere_fw-la but_o it_o be_v untrue_a to_o say_v he_o simple_o deni_v it_o or_o if_o he_o do_v err_v herein_o do_v he_o therefore_o err_v in_o the_o other_o but_o if_o you_o can_v so_o soon_o shake_v off_o gualther_n in_o this_o point_n for_o his_o errout_n as_o you_o fancy_n in_o the_o other_o then_o may_v we_o also_o reject_v caluin_n in_o a_o matter_n whereof_o he_o be_v first_o father_n for_o his_o error_n against_o the_o lawful_a supremacy_n of_o christian_a prince_n in_o cause_n ecclesiastical_a the_o 3._o objection_n of_o the_o demonstrator_n demonstration_n demonstration_n the_o prince_n have_v the_o authority_n which_o the_o elder_n have_v answer_n that_o be_v no_o true_a than_o to_o say_v the_o prince_n have_v authority_n to_o preach_v which_o he_o must_v see_v do_v the_o eldership_n you_o say_v may_v make_v ecclesiastical_a law_n reply_n remonstrance_n with_o reply_n may_v censure_v and_o excommunicate_v in_o take_v these_o from_o the_o prince_n to_o be_v do_v by_o her_o delegate_n do_v you_o not_o deny_v her_o supremacy_n as_o for_o any_o ordain_v she_o may_v even_o as_o well_o as_o your_o eldership_n do_v it_o but_o god_n forbid_v she_o shall_v claim_v it_o as_o they_o very_o absurd_o do_v hiergo_v by_o this_o gross_a position_n the_o prince_n must_v wait_v in_o every_o place_n to_o see_v the_o eldership_n their_o duty_n do_v but_o it_o be_v certain_a exit_fw-la quolibet_fw-la sequitur_fw-la quidlibet_fw-la in_o maintain_v this_o imagination_n as_o for_o the_o prince_n to_o see_v it_o do_v by_o your_o eldership_n be_v a_o servility_n and_o no_o sovereignty_n especial_o when_o you_o say_v and_o t.c._n before_o you_o that_o the_o prince_n must_v subject_v themselves_o and_o submit_v their_o sceptre_n and_o throw_v down_o their_o crown_n before_o the_o church_n and_o for_o the_o church_n you_o roundly_o interpret_v the_o presbytery_n demonstrator_n absurdity_n of_o the_o demonstrator_n prince_n must_v lieprostrate_v to_o the_o presbytery_n and_o if_o your_o eldership_n in_o deed_n have_v this_o authority_n by_o their_o right_n in_o cause_n ecclesiastical_a which_o the_o prince_n must_v but_o see_v do_v then_o do_v not_o they_o slander_v you_o which_o say_v you_o give_v to_o the_o prince_n potestatem_fw-la facti_fw-la non_fw-la iuris_fw-la and_o so_o yield_v her_o just_a as_o large_a a_o supremacy_n as_o the_o papist_n do_v demonstration_n to_o prove_v the_o eldership_n necessary_a under_o christian_a prince_n as_o in_o the_o apostle_n time_n the_o 1._o demonstration_n the_o less_o able_a the_o minister_n be_v to_o direct_v in_o godliness_n demonstration_n demonstration_n the_o more_o need_n they_o have_v of_o elder_n but_o minister_n now_o under_o christian_a magistrate_n be_v less_o able_a by_o reason_n of_o ease_n and_o peace_n ergo._n to_o the_o mayor_n nay_o the_o more_o need_n they_o have_v of_o preacher_n and_o labourer_n in_o the_o harvest_n remonstrance_n remonstrance_n the_o more_o need_n of_o discreet_a overseer_n not_o those_o pragmatical_a busybody_n elder_n to_o the_o minor_n do_v not_o say_v that_o solomon_n forbid_v you_o say_v the_o day_n be_v worse_a now_o rather_o than_o the_o day_n of_o old_a for_o that_o be_v a_o foolish_a thing_n our_o day_n be_v bless_v day_n bless_v god_n for_o they_o this_o fallacy_n be_v secundùm_fw-la non_fw-la causam_fw-la ut_fw-la
and_o be_v idle_a and_o busiebody_n if_o they_o may_v have_v maintenance_n this_o eldership_n be_v no_o vocation_n by_o the_o word_n of_o god_n and_o therefore_o burdensome_a to_o the_o church_n but_o if_o the_o church_n be_v not_o bind_v to_o maintain_v they_o than_o they_o be_v none_o of_o those_o elder_n that_o be_v worthy_a double_a honour_n 1._o tim._n 5._o for_o by_o double_a honour_n liberal_a maintenance_n be_v there_o chief_o understand_v as_o the_o reason_n annex_v and_o circumstance_n of_o that_o place_n do_v import_n the_o 4._o objection_n of_o the_o demonstrator_n it_o bring_v in_o a_o new_a popedom_n or_o tyranny_n in_o the_o church_n demonstrat_n demonstrat_n answer_v of_o the_o demonstrator_n it_o be_v blasphemy_n to_o term_v the_o government_n so_o for_o shall_v we_o not_o yield_v our_o obedience_n to_o the_o sceptre_n of_o christ_n nay_o it_o be_v a_o name_n full_a of_o blasphemy_n reply_n remonstrance_n with_o reply_n and_o the_o mystery_n of_o antichrist_n to_o call_v the_o babble_n of_o their_o eldership_n as_o they_o describe_v it_o by_o the_o name_n of_o the_o sceptre_n of_o our_o bless_a king_n and_o saviour_n jesu_n christ_n and_o to_o challenge_v to_o themselves_o the_o obedience_n due_a to_o our_o lord_n christ_n nay_o if_o many_o antichrist_n be_v worse_o than_o one_o and_o many_o tyrant_n more_o intoilerable_a than_o one_o then_o this_o to_o tyrannize_v in_o the_o conscience_n by_o many_o elderdome_n and_o popedome_n be_v mysterium_fw-la iniquitatis_fw-la which_o do_v advance_v against_o christ_n have_v christ_n no_o sceptre_n to_o govern_v his_o church_n by_o but_o in_o their_o hand_n do_v all_o deny_a christ_n to_o be_v their_o king_n that_o refuse_v or_o have_v not_o your_o eldership_n with_o what_o face_n can_v you_o deny_v barrowes_n conclusion_n that_o yield_v he_o these_o premise_n to_o conclude_v by_o the_o 5._o objection_n of_o the_o demonstrator_n it_o be_v a_o kind_n of_o donatisme_n to_o challenge_v such_o authority_n over_o prince_n demonstration_n demonstration_n answer_v of_o the_o demonstrator_n it_o be_v flattery_n to_o suffer_v prince_n to_o do_v what_o they_o listen_v this_o be_v gualters_n objection_n a_o enemy_n to_o discipline_n gualther_n be_v no_o enemy_n to_o discipline_n reply_n remonstrance_n with_o reply_n but_o to_o anabaptisticall_a discipline_n as_o for_o this_o discipline_n in_o use_n it_o be_v no_o flattery_n of_o prince_n but_o if_o your_o assertion_n may_v sway_v we_o shall_v have_v flat_a rebellion_n and_o insurrection_n against_o all_o christian_a king_n especial_o against_o the_o sacred_a majesty_n of_o our_o most_o gracious_a and_o glorious_a prince_n what_o can_v the_o papist_n imagine_v of_o great_a weight_n to_o be_v hold_v from_o they_o than_o the_o sceptre_n &_o kingdom_n of_o christ_n as_o you_o do_v and_o you_o be_v as_o tickle_v head_v and_o hand_v be_v discontent_v as_o they_o be_v the_o 6._o objection_n of_o the_o demonstrator_n it_o take_v away_o the_o prince_n authority_n in_o cause_n ecclesiastical_a demonstrat_n demonstrat_n answer_v of_o the_o demonstrator_n no_o more_o than_o it_o do_v from_o david_n in_o his_o time_n not_o so_o much_o as_o the_o bishop_n do_v now_o for_o the_o prince_n require_v but_o this_o to_o see_v the_o church_n well_o order_v which_o the_o eldership_n allow_v and_o crave_v there_o be_v no_o such_o eldership_n in_o david_n time_n reply_n remonstrance_n with_o reply_n ergo_fw-la no_o comparison_n between_o this_o and_o that_o time_n but_o this_o impeach_v her_o majesty_n prerogative_n and_o preeminence_n give_v by_o all_o the_o peer_n lord_n spiritual_a lord_n temporal_a the_o commons_o in_o the_o low_a house_n convocation_n house_n to_o set_v up_o a_o consistory_n over_o all_o cause_n and_o person_n yea_o over_o herself_o for_o these_o man_n dream_v that_o all_o sheaf_n must_v bow_v to_o their_o sheaf_n which_o god_n forbid_v for_o they_o be_v a_o quintessence_n of_o eldership_n above_o sun_n and_o moon_n above_o the_o imperial_a firmament_n it_o be_v a_o slander_n to_o say_v not_o so_o much_o as_o bishop_n for_o bishop_n have_v none_o authority_n of_o jurisdiction_n but_o derive_v from_o the_o prince_n unto_o who_o regal_a authority_n of_o the_o crown_n all_o command_a superiority_n be_v annex_v but_o you_o claim_v other_o and_o far_o great_a as_o elsewhere_o be_v show_v the_o 7._o objection_n of_o the_o demonstrator_n it_o transform_v the_o state_n of_o the_o common_a wealth_n into_o a_o mere_a popularity_n demonstrat_n demonstrat_n and_o will_v alter_v this_o government_n answer_v of_o the_o demonstrator_n no_o for_o what_o damage_n come_v by_o this_o discipline_n to_o the_o magistracy_n from_o the_o office_n of_o the_o prince_n to_o the_o headboroughe_n because_o the_o prince_n must_v govern_v after_o their_o direction_n reply_n remonstrance_n with_o reply_n as_o the_o learned_a discourse_n do_v say_v the_o prince_n shall_v be_v but_o a_o feel_a member_n not_o a_o head_n or_o supreme_a governor_n of_o the_o church_n prince_n must_v cast_v down_o their_o crown_n and_o submit_v their_o sceptre_n to_o the_o sceptre_n of_o the_o presbytery_n nay_o which_o be_v more_o odious_a as_o t.c._n do_v apply_v must_v lick_v up_o the_o dust_n of_o their_o foot_n that_o be_v of_o the_o church_n which_o be_v the_o presbytery_n because_o her_o majesty_n must_v not_o only_o be_v direct_v by_o the_o regency_n of_o the_o eldership_n but_o upon_o their_o judgement_n correct_v also_o they_o will_v make_v law_n call_v synod_n have_v the_o last_o appellation_n and_o many_o such_o like_a as_o have_v be_v afore_o touch_v final_o because_o her_o majesty_n have_v neither_o dispositive_a not_o consultative_a voice_n she_o may_v not_o be_v privy_a what_o the_o presbytery_n do_v by_o her_o own_o presence_n or_o by_o send_v her_o attorney_n with_o many_o more_o as_o they_o shall_v hear_v the_o 8._o objection_n of_o the_o demonstrator_n it_o will_v send_v contention_n and_o partiality_n in_o judgement_n demonstrat_n demonstrat_n answer_v of_o the_o demonstrator_n where_o can_v it_o be_v great_a than_o in_o the_o bishop_n kingdom_n yes_o forsooth_o great_a of_o all_o in_o the_o tetrarches_n popedom_n reply_n remonstrance_n with_o reply_n but_o this_o be_v but_o to_o answer_v with_o recrimination_n or_o reaccusing_a one_o another_o very_o as_o for_o the_o bishop_n ministry_n it_o be_v no_o kingdom_n neither_o your_o kingdom_n or_o tetrarchie_n any_o ministry_n they_o be_v govern_v by_o law_n in_o all_o their_o proceed_n but_o you_o will_v have_v self_n will_v and_o law_n of_o your_o own_o mind_n &_o blasphemous_o father_n it_o upon_o scripture_n and_o god_n word_n and_o so_o you_o do_v all_o most_o absurd_a and_o unequal_a decree_n of_o your_o eldership_n as_o in_o many_o particular_n where_o they_o reign_n be_v show_v the_o 9_o objection_n of_o the_o demonstrator_n it_o will_v be_v contemn_v and_o so_o good_a order_n neglect_v demonstrat_n demonstrat_n answer_n nay_o god_n will_v procure_v awe_n to_o it_o it_o be_v the_o bishop_n pomp_n and_o officer_n which_o deserve_v contempt_n but_o before_o in_o the_o 4._o it_o be_v tyranny_n reply_n remonstrance_n with_o reply_n here_o contemptible_a these_o be_v contrary_a god_n will_v not_o honour_v those_o that_o honour_n not_o he_o or_o who_o with_o a_o new_a invention_n glorify_v themselves_o if_o the_o bishop_n be_v in_o contempt_n you_o be_v the_o man_n that_o contemn_v fastum_fw-la platonis_fw-la maiore_fw-la fastu_fw-la as_o for_o tyranny_n and_o contempt_n they_o be_v seat_v well_o in_o you_o for_o psal_n 12._o when_o impij_fw-la circumquaque_fw-la obambulant_fw-la quando_fw-la exaltantur_fw-la vilitas_fw-la filijs_fw-la hominum_fw-la the_o word_n in_o hebrew_n be_v zuloth_n when_o your_o elder_n shall_v be_v exalt_v and_o ride_v upon_o the_o cherubim_n when_o the_o many_o or_o base_a sort_n do_v tyrannize_v it_o will_v be_v a_o contemptuous_a tyranny_n in_o deed_n the_o 10._o objection_n of_o the_o demonstrator_n all_o alteration_n be_v dangerous_a demonstration_n demonstration_n answer_v of_o the_o demonstrator_n never_o from_o antichrist_n to_o god_n obedience_n this_o may_v be_v stephen_n gardiner_n argument_n all_o alteration_n be_v dangerous_a reply_n remonstrance_n with_o reply_n where_o thing_n be_v religious_o establish_v as_o with_o us._n as_o for_o stephen_n gardiner_n he_o make_v argument_n de_fw-fr vera_fw-la obedientia_fw-la which_o you_o nor_o t.c.i.p._n nor_o any_o papist_n who_o alike_o with_o you_o impugn_v supremacy_n of_o prince_n in_o cause_n ecclesiastical_a can_v ever_o answer_v de_fw-fr mortuis_fw-la nil_fw-la nisi_fw-la bonum_fw-la pascitur_fw-la in_o vivis_fw-la livor_fw-la post_fw-la fata_fw-la quiescit_fw-la so_o it_o shall_v be_v the_o assertion_n the_o church_n must_v be_v rule_v by_o the_o rule_n of_o god_n word_n etc._n etc._n and_o not_o by_o the_o curse_a and_o monstrous_a canon_n law_n demonstration_n demonstration_n the_o 1._o demonstration_n all_o governor_n be_v to_o execute_v their_o authority_n by_o the_o same_o warrant_n from_o which_o they_o have_v it_o but_o the_o governor_n of_o the_o church_n
rabbyn_n of_o you_o all_o alas_o the_o jesuite_n desire_v no_o better_a match_n then_o to_o have_v a_o puritan_n come_v to_o reason_n with_o they_o they_o be_v so_o far_o to_o seek_v in_o the_o controversy_n i_o be_o assure_v more_o sound_o argument_n may_v be_v draw_v out_o of_o that_o law_n against_o the_o pope_n and_o popery_n than_o three_o of_o the_o best_a of_o our_o puritan_n can_v bring_v out_o of_o all_o their_o reading_n gentiletus_n a_o protestant_a lawyer_n have_v confute_v the_o tridentine_a council_n even_o out_o of_o the_o decree_n of_o gratian._n the_o 8._o demonstration_n that_o which_o destroy_v the_o church_n demonstra_fw-la demonstra_fw-la can_v be_v good_a to_o rule_v but_o the_o canon_n law_n destroy_v it_o for_o it_o cross_v every_o faithful_a minister_n in_o discharge_n of_o his_o duty_n ergo._n hinc_fw-la illae_fw-la lachrymae_fw-la remonstrance_n remonstrance_n lex_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la posita_fw-la iustis_fw-la there_o be_v no_o law_n but_o for_o lawless_a man_n if_o all_o the_o old_a canon_n and_o course_n of_o law_n be_v go_v than_o you_o be_v safe_a enough_o you_o and_o your_o elder_n will_v be_v pope_n in_o your_o own_o parish_n and_o be_v in_o deed_n the_o church_n destroy_v when_o any_o of_o you_o be_v cross_v in_o your_o manner_n of_o discharge_v your_o ministry_n the_o church_n i_o perceive_v with_o you_o have_v many_o signification_n the_o 9_o demonstration_n that_o which_o have_v bread_n more_o traitorous_a papist_n in_o england_n demonstrat_n demonstrat_n than_o the_o seminary_n of_o rheims_n and_o rome_n can_v be_v good_a but_o the_o canon_n law_n etc._n etc._n ergo._n this_o be_v a_o seditious_a and_o frantic_a paradox_n remonstrance_n remonstrance_n well_o you_o shall_v have_v somewhat_o for_o the_o make_n your_o credit_n shall_v be_v in_o the_o next_o demonstration_n none_o shall_v believe_v you_o belike_o they_o be_v convert_v to_o popery_n by_o the_o study_n of_o the_o canon_n law_n even_o as_o like_v as_o if_o a_o man_n will_v say_v that_o your_o discipline_n be_v able_a to_o convert_v from_o popery_n to_o the_o gospel_n the_o 10._o demonstration_n that_o which_o nourish_v the_o hope_n of_o antichrist_n to_o come_v in_o again_o demonstrat_n demonstrat_n can_v be_v good_a but_o the_o canon_n law_n for_o it_o keep_v the_o cage_n of_o these_o unclean_a bird_n as_o archbishop_n lord_n bishop_n arch_n cathedral_n church_n ergo._n this_o bird_n will_v sing_v in_o a_o bridewell_n cage_n remonstr_n remonstr_n if_o he_o be_v not_o cage_a in_o another_o manner_n of_o cage_n or_o deplumed_a rather_o for_o libel_v against_o judgement_n seat_n and_o college_n of_o the_o prophet_n o_o shameless_a folly_n as_o if_o popery_n be_v come_v in_o it_o can_v not_o bring_v with_o it_o the_o whole_a pope_n law_n though_o it_o be_v abrogate_a in_o the_o mean_a time_n the_o 11._o demonstration_n that_o which_o all_o the_o church_n have_v cast_v off_o as_o unfit_a demonstrat_n demonstrat_n can_v be_v good_a but_o all_o the_o church_n that_o have_v forsake_v the_o pope_n have_v cast_v it_o off_o ergo._n the_o mayor_n tend_v to_o donatisme_n or_o brownist_n antichristianitie_n remonstr_n remonstr_n to_o the_o minor_n a_o instance_n be_v the_o reform_a church_n of_o germany_n denmark_n and_o sweden_n that_o retain_v much_o of_o it_o and_o so_o our_o church_n but_o they_o will_v deny_v we_o perhaps_o to_o be_v a_o church_n reform_v what_o folly_n be_v it_o where_o a_o case_n happen_v with_o a_o just_a &_o equal_a decision_n to_o determine_v the_o contrary_a because_o he_o be_v a_o ill_a man_n under_o who_o authority_n it_o be_v first_o publish_v though_o rich._n 3._o be_v a_o usurp_a tyrant_n his_o law_n be_v very_o good_a and_o be_v yet_o retain_v and_o so_o be_v the_o sound_n judgement_n that_o be_v give_v in_o time_n pass_v by_o papist_n judge_n and_o bad_a man_n the_o 12._o demonstration_n we_o ourselves_o mislike_v it_o as_o appeareth_z by_o a_o statute_n of_o edward_n the_o 6._o demonstration_n demonstration_n we_o do_v not_o mislike_v but_o abridge_v remonstrance_n remonstrance_n a_o abridgement_n or_o exception_n unto_o part_n be_v not_o mislike_v of_o the_o whole_a by_o a_o abridgement_n no_o more_o be_v intend_v then_o to_o have_v it_o perfect_o know_v what_o be_v profitable_a to_o be_v retain_v as_o not_o contrary_a to_o the_o prerogative_n royal_a nor_o law_n of_o the_o land_n o_o golden_a demonstration_n of_o a_o leaden_a demonstrator_n the_o fifteen_o chapter_n assertion_n governor_n of_o the_o church_n may_v not_o meddle_v but_o in_o matter_n ecclesiastical_a only_o as_o vocation_n abdication_n demonstration_n demonstration_n in_o decide_v of_o controversy_n in_o doctrine_n and_o manner_n as_o far_o as_o appertain_v to_o the_o conscience_n and_o censure_n of_o the_o church_n this_o assertion_n be_v lay_v out_o by_o he_o remonstrance_n remonstrance_n not_o so_o much_o to_o signify_v what_o appertain_v to_o church_n governor_n as_o what_o not_o appertain_v viz._n civil_a cause_n which_o he_o fanci_v that_o bishop_n do_v exercise_n and_o to_o claim_v as_o appertain_v unto_o their_o function_n by_o abdication_n he_o mean_v deposition_n of_o church_n officer_n the_o word_n signify_v proper_o a_o voluntary_a put_v away_o of_o a_o office_n but_o he_o think_v it_o be_v abdication_n when_o it_o be_v take_v away_o against_o a_o man_n will_n such_o a_o fault_n may_v be_v forgive_v to_o a_o poor_a smatterer_n in_o learning_n when_o he_o take_v it_o up_o at_o a_o more_o learned_a man_n hand_n per_fw-la fidem_fw-la implicitam_fw-la and_o he_o only_o to_o be_v blame_v that_o thus_o serve_v he_o on_o trust_n the_o french_a discipline_n both_o and_o their_o practice_n together_o with_o the_o book_n write_v in_o confirmation_n of_o that_o discipline_n do_v attribute_n to_o every_o consistory_n or_o eldership_n authority_n and_o power_n to_o make_v law_n ecclesiastical_a this_o part_n of_o power_n our_o man_n never_o reach_v at_o plain_o &_o in_o direct_a term_n because_o it_o be_v likely_a to_o be_v envious_a &_o perhaps_o will_v prove_v either_o too_o hot_a or_o to_o heavy_a unto_o they_o and_o it_o be_v wise_o i_o think_v consider_v of_o they_o beside_o for_o when_o all_o other_o law_n for_o church_n government_n be_v once_o take_v away_o then_o shall_v their_o power_n be_v more_o absolute_a if_o none_o in_o their_o stead_n be_v set_v down_o but_o all_o leave_v to_o their_o own_o will_n and_o see_v they_o have_v leave_v to_o themselves_o decide_v of_o all_o controversy_n in_o doctrine_n and_o manner_n as_o far_o as_o appertain_v to_o the_o conscience_n there_o be_v still_o measure_v large_a enough_o in_o their_o own_o hand_n to_o supply_v this_o want_n at_o the_o full_a for_o this_o one_o limb_n of_o authority_n will_v carry_v all_o cause_n though_o most_o civil_a in_o their_o nature_n and_o practice_n out_o of_o all_o court_n in_o the_o land_n unto_o their_o eldership_n first_o the_o chancery_n that_o decide_v matter_n of_o controversy_n by_o conscience_n be_v clear_o dam_v up_o and_o may_v go_v pick_n paigle_v and_o be_v any_o other_o civil_a court_n in_o better_a case_n no_o very_o for_o can_v any_o controversy_n be_v betwixt_o man_n and_o man_n but_o it_o appertain_v to_o conscience_n to_o give_v the_o matter_n contend_v for_o unto_o he_o to_o who_o of_o right_n it_o be_v due_a you_o may_v not_o therefore_o marvel_v hereafter_o if_o you_o chance_v to_o hear_v a_o man_n excommunicate_v by_o they_o among_o who_o this_o discipline_n reign_v for_o refuse_v to_o cancel_v a_o band_n if_o they_o think_v it_o unconscionable_a or_o deny_v to_o acquitte_v a_o debt_n though_o it_o be_v with_o the_o creditor_n undo_v this_o forsooth_o be_v no_o civil_a cause_n or_o matter_n at_o the_o common_a law_n though_o littleton_n will_v depose_v twenty_o time_n that_o it_o be_v by_o vocation_n i_o think_v they_o mean_v the_o first_o nomination_n of_o a_o man_n unto_o the_o people_n for_o a_o ecclesiastical_a office_n they_o leave_v out_o election_n because_o they_o will_v seem_v more_o popular_a than_o the_o french_a discipline_n that_o give_v to_o the_o eldership_n both_o vocation_n and_o election_n but_o by_o that_o time_n the_o card_n be_v deal_v out_o you_o shall_v see_v all_o come_v to_o one_o pass_v for_o who_o they_o nominate_v he_o be_v thereby_o choose_v if_o the_o people_n do_v not_o gainsay_v it_o and_o if_o they_o all_o do_v there_o must_v also_o a_o cause_n be_v both_o allege_v and_o allow_v by_o the_o eldership_n before_o he_o can_v be_v reject_v they_o mention_v not_o here_o ordination_n by_o imposition_n of_o hand_n upon_o the_o elect_a by_o the_o eldership_n but_o we_o see_v by_o other_o place_n that_o they_o have_v a_o eye_n unto_o it_o not_o to_o loose_v it_o i_o will_v ask_v therefore_o all_o the_o learned_a of_o that_o side_n where_o by_o any_o pregnant_a place_n they_o find_v ordination_n of_o minister_n of_o the_o word_n with_o imposition_n of_o