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A75749 A remonstrance, against presbitery. Exhibited by divers of the nobilitie, gentrie, ministers and inhabitants of the county palatine. of Chester with the motives of that remonstrance. Together with a short survey of the Presbyterian discipline. Shewing the inconveniences of it; and the inconsistency thereof with the constitution of this state, being in its principles destructive to the laws and liberties of the people. With a briefe review of the institution, succession, iurisdiction of the ancient and venerable order of bishops. Found to bee instituted by the Apostles, continued ever since, grounded on the lawes of God, and most agreeable to the law of the land. / By Sir Thomas Aston baronet. Aston, Thomas, Sir, 1600-1645. 1641 (1641) Wing A4078; Thomason E163_1; Thomason E163_2; ESTC R212696 75,691 128

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ferocemque Tyrannum coli voluerit non alia ratione nisi quia regnum obtinebat Calvin Institut l. 4. cap. 20. Art 27. we see what obedience the Lord will have given to this wicked and fierce Tyrant for no other reason but because he was a King With whose counsell his successor Beza * Beza Epist 24. 2d peregri Eccl. in Anglia fratres well agrees Illud solis precibus patientiâ sanari potest The Triacle against this venome is Prayer not Vengeance We must be subject for Conscience sake q Rom. 13.5 Hence it is deduc'd and incorporated into an Article of our Religion r Article 37. That the Kings Majestie hath the chiefe Government of all estates Ecclesiasticall and Civill in all causes within his Dominions Which is not the sole position of our Church But with this agree all the Reformed Churches ſ Helverian Art 16. Bazil Art 7. Bohem. Art 16. Belg. Art 36. August Art 16. Saxon. Art 23. And more particularly the French Church whose Article of Religion is t Moulins Buckler of Faith Art 40. fo 535. Wee must not onely endure and suffer Superiors to Governe but also wee must honour and obey them with all reverence holding them for Gods Lieutenants and Officers whom he hath appoynted to exercise a Lawfull and an Holy charge we must obey their Lawes and Statutes pay all Tributes and Imposts bear the yoke of Subjection with a good and free will although they be Infidels Therefore we detest those that would reject Superioritie and establish community of goods and overthrow all course of Justice But yet perhaps the policy of States have found this Supreame power prejudiciall to the good of Common-wealths and the Lawes of God must give way to the Lawes of Nations since Salus populi Suprema Lex Gregor Tholosan Syntag jurum l. 47. ca. 17. N. 1. But experience tells us the Romans were quickly wearie of their change of Government from a King to a Senate and in nine yeares reduc't it to a Dictator finding by experience that commands depending upon divers votes beget distraction and Ruine And Historie informes us that the Spartan State wherein The King the Nobilitie and the people had their just proportions of power administration of Iustice and obedience subsisted above eight hundred yeares in a happy and flourishing Condition whereas Athens being a popular State scarce stood out an age The nearest degree of government to a Monarchy being ever longest lived and most glorious most safe for the people as was seen in Rome when the Commons to suppresse the power of the Nobilitie in the Consulls created the Tribunes of the people who sharing in government would share in honours and fortunes too which occasioned the Agrarian Law Titus Livius That no Citizen should have above five hundred Acres of Land and that the people should share equally in all Conquests This bred the quarrell of Sylla and Marius continued in Caesar and Pompey and ended in the ruine of Rome From these observations Tacitus drawes this conclusion Vnius Imperii corpus Tacitus Annalls 1. unius animo regendum videtur It is necessarie the body of one Empire should bee governed by one head which must not bee barely a Titular head a shadow of power without the weight of it for Lawes well made availe little unlesse they be entrusted to a hand that hath power to exact execution of them Nor doe I observe that these principles of Divinity or Policie doe essentially differ but rather seeme to bee ●he same with the fundamentalls of the Lawes of this Kingdome For sayes Bracton the learned Historian in the Genealogie of our Lawes Bracton fol. 107. u Rex ad hoc creatus est electus ut justitiam faciat universis quia si non esset qui justitiam faceret pax de facili possit exterminari supervacuum esset leges condere justitiam nisi esset qui leges tueretur Potentiâ verò omnes sibi subditos debet praecellere parem autem habere non debet nec multo fortius superiorem maximè in justitia exhibenda ut dicatur veré de eo magnus Dominus noster magna virtus ejus To this end was a King created and chosen that he might doe Iustice to all men because if there were not one to administer Justice peace would soone be rooted out and it were vaine to enact Lawes or talke of Iustice if there were not one to defend the Lawes Who must be one not subordinate to inferiour powers but sayes hee Hee ought to excell all his subjects in power And hee must have no equall much lesse a superiour chiefely in administring Iustice That it may truely bee said of him Great is our Lord our King great is his vertue And hence is it that such Princely jurisdiction superiorities and authority over Ecclesiasticall Causes and persons is annexed to the Imperiall Crown for ever by our Statute Lawes * 1 Eliz. 1. And that in the oath of Supremacie w Oath of Supremacie 1 Eliz. 1. we not onely acknowledge the King to bee the supreame Governour in all Ecclesiasticall things or Causes but are sworne That to our power we shall assist and defend all Iurisdictions Priviledges Preheminences and Authorities united and annexed to the Imperiall Crowne In this Scala Regia this Gradation of Royall Monarchy we can finde nothing incongruous to the faith or liberty of a true Protestant But wee see our selves bound by Oath to acknowledge and support that Regall Government our Statutes have establish'd our Lawes approved Historie represents most happy policy recommends as safest to which all protestant Churches confesse due allegeance All Primitive times yielded full obedience To whose Throne Christ himselfe yields Tribute To whose power he commands submission and reverence To whose jurisdiction is committed the designation of Bishops and Judges whose persons God will have sacred whose Actions unquestionable whose succession he himselfe determines whose Kingdomes hee disposes and whose Election is the All-Makers sole prerogative Now whether these Crownes and Scepters shall be held Jure Divino or not I take not on me to determine but I may be bold to deliver Du-Moulins owne words x Moulins Buckler of Faith fol. 560. Whosoever buildeth the authority of Kings upon mens institutions and not upon the Ordinance of God cutteth off three parts of their authoritie and bereaveth them of that which assureth their Lives and their Crowns more than the guards of their bodies or puissant armie which put terrour into subjects hearts instead of framing them to obedience Then the fidelity of subjects will be firme and sure when it shall be incorporated into piety and esteemed to be a part of Religion and of the service which men owe to God SECT 10. Presbyterie inconsistent with Monarchy IN the government of the State as now it stands there being then so much Harmonie though it may sometimes bee out of Tune
If saith hee the Pope deposeth a King hee may not be driven away nor killed but by those to whom the Pope shall give order to doe it The Apostle bids us b 1 Peter 2.13 Submit to the King as supreme and to this the protestant sweares allegeance They say c T. C. lib. 1 pag. 3. The establishing of the Presbyterie is the full placing of Christ in his kingdome that Kings and Princes must be subject to some parochiall Presbyter with whom concurs Bellarmine d Chr●stus Ecclesiam regendam Petro Episcopis commisit non Tiberio ejus Praefectis Bellar. de Laicis cap. 7. Annot. on 1 Pet. 2.13 Christ sayes hee committed his Church to bee governed by Peter and his Bishops not by Tiberius and his Officers And in the Annotations on the Rhemish Testament Kings and Princes must be subject unto some Bishop Christ commands us obedience to pay tribute to Caesar The ancient Fathers direct us to beare with prayer and patience the persecutions of bad Princes Nay the very Heathens found humanitie where Divinitie was wanting to qualifie this Barbarisme Tacitus Tacitus Annals 12. advises To beare with the riots and covetousnesse of Kings as with barrennesse and other infirmities of nature for whiles there are men there will bee vices but they cannot continue long and will be recompenced when better come And he leaves us this his golden sentence Men are to reverence things past and submit to what is present and should wish for good princes but whatsoever they are endure them But some of these pious Presbyterians will neither be guided by precept nor president They hold it not enough for subjects not to obey but they must withstand wicked Princes e Goodman pag 43 57 72. They must take up armes against them f Englands complaint against the Canons They may kill them as monsters and cruell beasts g Goodman 99. Buchanan de jure Regni And if neither the Magistrates nor the people doe their office in deposing or killing of them then the Minister must excommunicate such a King h Knox Histor fol 78. Obedience fol. 116. Goodman 199. T. C. Part. 2. Reply 65. and any Minister may doe it against the greatest prince Nay if he be a just and gracious Prince towards his people yet hee must learne obedience to the presbyters otherwise sayes Barrow * Barrowes Discourse pag. 116. A Prince contemning the censures of the Church is to be disfranchized out of the Church and delivered unto Satan Here the universall Shepherd welcomes his brethren to the Romish fold whose principle it is i Bellarmin in Barkl cap. 21. Moulins Buckler fo 547. That being Pastour hee may shut up and destroy furious Rams that is Kings which are not obedient to him And the Jesuite tels us that k Tollet lib. 1. de Institutione Sacerdotali c. 13. An excommunicate person can exercise no act of jurisdiction And then sayes Tollet l Tollet lib. 4. de Instruct Sacerdotali c. 58. Vrbanus secundus Wee doe not hold them for homicides who being transported with zeale of the holy Church against the excommunicate shall chance to kill one of them Here let the loyall hearted Protestant stand at gaze a while and consider what effects the power of the keyes being thus distributed may produce when his King his Soveraigne to whom hee owes religious dutie legall obedience and to whom he is perhaps bound by oath shall by the breath of every Schismatike pastour of a parish be blowne into hell and he must then abandon all reliefe or communication with him to whom he is bound by allegeance To the poyson of such devillish doctrins let the eares of all good Christians be deafe from the infection God turne their hearts and with the Psalmist let al true protestants pray to the King of Kings Psalme 61.6 Psalme 21.7 That hee will prolong the Kings life and his yeares as many generations For the King trusteth in the Lord and that through the mercie of the Most High he may not be moved Verse 8. But that his hand may find out all his enemies and his right hand those that hate him SECT 11. Presbyterie inconsistent with Civill Magistracie BVT may bee these King-Curbers will bee themselves conformable to the Civill Magistrate and to keep the power of Kings within a tether is no hurt Though the light of Nature encline all creatures the experience of all Nations instruct all people to seeke a head to that body in which they contract themselves by conferring power to that head to conserve those rules of government or order they prescribe for their more securitie as well as Lawes to regulate the exorbitancies of unbounded Nature which semper nititur in vitium Yet all power that growes too great growes suspect and dangerous And this perhaps may be doubted easily to degenerate from securitie into Tyranny And therefore one prescribes us a remedy and tels us m Knox Hi● That God hath appointed the Nobilitie to bridle the inordinate appetites of princes and in so doing they cannot be accused as resisters of authoritie And some of them tell these great officers Goodman pag. 34. whence this superintendent power is derived to them Wherof sayes one of them came this division of personages Lib. de obedient p. 114. seeing all men came of one man and one woman was it for their lustie hawking hunting dicing carding dancing swearing fleering flattering for their cruell polling and pilling No Lib. de obedient p. 107 there was no such thing they have their honour of the people to revenge the injuries of their Governours And though such advance this power in the Nobilitie above the thrones of princes yet they think fit to put them in mind they have a superiour power above them too Knox pag. 272. by charging the Nobilitie upon paine of excommunication to joyne with them where they see cause to resist their prince But these degrees of government in Kings or Nobles are held perchance but the ill effects of too much power encroachments upon the liberties of free-borne men therefore they who have this power of the keyes Jure divino ought not to bee subordinate to any power that is of human institution Yet knowing that God who is the God of order and not of confusion hath ever appointed Magistrates to rule the people shewing the inconvenience of want of government in the men of Laish 1●7 who sayes the Prophet dwelt carelesse after the manner of the Zidonians where there was no Magistrate in the land that might put them to shame in any thing who became a prey to the Tribe of Dan. And the Apostles precept being peremptorie Titus 3.1 To obey Magistrates They will perhaps give due obedience to the Civill Magistrate Melancthon tels us n Peccatum est mortale violare edicta magistratus Melancth in 13. ad Romanos It is a mortall sin to violate