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A67437 The history & vindication of the loyal formulary, or Irish remonstrance ... received by His Majesty anno 1661 ... in several treatises : with a true account and full discussion of the delusory Irish remonstrance and other papers framed and insisted on by the National Congregation at Dublin, anno 1666, and presented to ... the Duke of Ormond, but rejected by His Grace : to which are added three appendixes, whereof the last contains the Marquess of Ormond ... letter of the second of December, 1650 : in answer to both the declaration and excommunication of the bishops, &c. at Jamestown / the author, Father Peter Walsh ... Walsh, Peter, 1618?-1688.; Ormonde, James Butler, Duke of, 1610-1688. Articles of peace.; Rothe, David, 1573-1650. Queries concerning the lawfulnesse of the present cessation. 1673 (1673) Wing W634; ESTC R13539 1,444,938 1,122

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delegate_a other_o or_o sit_v himself_o alone_o or_o with_o other_o in_o judgement_n on_o this_o cause_n of_o cecilian_a a_o bishop_n the_o other_o excuse_n of_o baronius_n tom_n 3._o a_o 316._o n._n 58._o be_v no_o less_o vain_a and_o frivolous_a than_o his_o former_a pretence_n for_o now_o he_o say_v that_o constantine_n yield_v to_o or_o admit_v of_o such_o unlawful_a unjust_a appeal_n to_o the_o end_n the_o schismatic_a donatist_n be_v so_o in_o all_o tribunal_n overcome_v shall_v at_o last_o desist_v from_o that_o cause_n and_o be_v ever_o after_o quiet_a and_o the_o african_a church_n so_o then_o divide_v by_o schism_n may_v be_v sometime_o again_o unite_v in_o peace_n and_o concord_n and_o because_o he_o think_v africa_n can_v otherwise_o hardly_o be_v continue_v under_o the_o roman_a empire_n be_v so_o powerful_a a_o faction_n as_o that_o of_o the_o donatist_n do_v shake_v the_o african_n already_o as_o to_o their_o allegiance_n ut_fw-la sic_fw-la victi_fw-la say_v he_o speak_v 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to_o to_o gainas_n the_o arian_n rebel_n that_o only_o one_o church_n which_o he_o desire_v for_o the_o people_n of_o his_o sect_n within_o constantinople_n theodoret._n l._n 5._o c._n 32._o albeit_o the_o emperor_n be_v otherwise_o and_o vehement_o too_o incline_v as_o consider_v the_o power_n of_o gainas_n and_o suspect_v he_o aim_v at_o the_o empire_n and_o therefore_o pray_v chrysostome_n consent_n for_o give_v he_o that_o one_o church_n to_o try_v if_o that_o will_v lessen_v the_o rage_n of_o gainas_n for_o he_o be_v already_o in_o the_o head_n of_o a_o army_n but_o all_o be_v in_o vain_a for_o chrysostome_n will_v not_o be_v move_v but_o whether_o this_o be_v in_o the_o case_n rather_o too_o much_o rigour_n then_o true_a vigour_n in_o chrysostome_n according_a to_o prudential_a maxim_n and_o pious_a too_o i_o leave_v other_o to_o judge_v i_o be_o sure_a other_o good_a churchman_n and_o even_o great_a bishop_n have_v also_o in_o our_o own_o age_n and_o some_o former_a too_o 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of_o thing_n in_o themselves_o deny_v his_o own_o consent_n to_o the_o emperor_n arcadius_n for_o give_v that_o one_o church_n in_o constantinople_n to_o the_o arrian_n at_o that_o time_n or_o in_o that_o conjuncture_n and_o deny_v it_o just_o and_o prudent_o i_o mean_v still_o upon_o that_o only_a account_n of_o be_v against_o conscience_n or_o against_o the_o law_n of_o god_n other_o politic_a and_o wise_a consideration_n he_o may_v have_v have_v indeed_o as_o i_o believe_v he_o have_v and_o as_o i_o believe_v also_o whether_o he_o have_v or_o not_o he_o advise_v that_o herein_o which_o he_o think_v most_o pious_a but_o such_o concern_v we_o not_o here_o as_o no_o more_o do_v this_o whole_a instance_n itself_o nor_o any_o part_n of_o it_o but_o only_o to_o argue_v ad_fw-la hominem_fw-la out_o of_o baronius_n himself_o against_o himself_o and_o to_o show_v that_o if_o chrysostome_n be_v praise_v worthy_a for_o choose_v rather_o to_o let_v the_o whole_a empire_n nay_o the_o whole_a 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nothing_o in_o this_o whole_a procedure_n or_o any_o other_o of_o judge_a churchman_n in_o criminal_a cause_n and_o such_o dangerous_a variance_n but_o what_o become_v and_o be_v the_o duty_n of_o a_o pious_a prince_n who_o carry_v the_o sword_n and_o minister_n vindicative_a justice_n for_o by_o actual_a and_o effectual_a instance_n to_o appease_v the_o tumult_n of_o the_o very_a sacerdotal_a order_n and_o to_o assume_v the_o protection_n of_o the_o faith_n peace_n and_o tranquillity_n of_o the_o church_n and_o to_o force_v also_o when_o necessary_a the_o churchman_n themselves_o to_o live_v in_o peace_n among_o themselves_o and_o with_o other_o be_v part_n of_o this_o princely_a royal_a and_o imperial_a duty_n i_o say_v nothing_o here_o of_o john_n the_o meletian_a bishop_n or_o of_o those_o many_o other_o egyptian_a bishop_n command_v and_o actual_o send_v by_o constantine_n to_o exile_n of_o who_o baronius_n tom_n 3._o a_o 336._o n._n 16_o 17._o but_o forasmuch_o as_o baronius_n say_v ibid._n n._n
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helianus_n to_o be_v judge_v by_o he_o augustinus_n post_n collat_n ep_v 33_o &_o ep_v 152._o &_o opt._n and_o photinus_n condemn_v in_o the_o general_a council_n of_o sardica_n obtain_v new_a judge_n from_o the_o very_a self_n same_o constantine_n as_o epiphan_n heres_fw-la 71._o tell_v the_o before_o often_o mention_v st._n athanasius_n be_v to_o the_o say_v pious_a and_o great_a emperor_n constantine_n accuse_v as_o a_o homicide_n or_o of_o have_v murder_v arsenius_n and_o constantine_n commit_v the_o cognizance_n hereof_o as_o we_o have_v touch_v before_o to_o delmatiu●s_n the_o censor_n of_o antioch_n a_o mere_a lay_v officer_n of_o the_o empire_n that_o he_o may_v proceed_v therein_o as_o a_o judge_n delegat_fw-la for_o very_o so_o do_v st._n athanasius_n himself_o in_o apol._n and_o for_o to_o defend_v his_o own_o innocency_n in_o that_o matter_n tell_v we_o and_o yet_o he_o do_v not_o upbraid_v the_o emperor_n nor_o at_o all_o object_n to_o he_o that_o his_o majesty_n have_v 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