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the_o uttermost_a of_o their_o force_n but_o accept_v a_o possible_a measure_n and_o latitude_n of_o true_a and_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 16._o consist_v of_o faith_n and_o charity_n gal._n 5.6_o yet_o this_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d not_o the_o high_a degree_n of_o obedience_n a_o thing_n adiaphorous_a and_o of_o right_a not_o due_a but_o serve_v both_o to_o declare_v the_o riches_n of_o god_n mercy_n in_o pardon_v our_o offence_n and_o also_o to_o humble_v we_o before_o he_o in_o the_o recognition_n of_o our_o unworthiness_n s._n bernard_n confession_n have_v these_o word_n he_o have_v therefore_o 〈◊〉_d his_o 〈◊〉_d to_o be_v observe_v 〈◊〉_d or_o to_o the_o full_a that_o we_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o fall_v short_a and_o find_v that_o we_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d to_o 〈◊〉_d that_o which_o we_o 〈◊〉_d may_v 〈◊〉_d to_o his_o mercy_n and_o say_v thy_o 〈◊〉_d be_v better_a 〈◊〉_d life_n and_o because_o we_o be_v not_o able_a to_o appear_v in_o the_o 〈◊〉_d of_o 〈◊〉_d and_o 〈◊〉_d we_o may_v appear_v in_o the_o vesture_n of_o 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〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d those_o thing_n which_o be_v behind_o or_o want_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d persoluenda_fw-la of_o the_o affliction_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d of_o christ_n in_o my_o flesh_n 〈◊〉_d his_o body_n which_o be_v the_o church_n the_o first_o part_n of_o these_o word_n prove_v that_o s._n paul_n suffer_v for_o the_o collossian_o but_o because_o he_o may_v suffer_v for_o the_o confirmation_n of_o their_o faith_n or_o as_o a_o example_n of_o patience_n aliorum_fw-la or_o by_o way_n of_o persecution_n because_o he_o preach_v the_o gospel_n to_o they_o discipulos_fw-la and_o other_o church_n it_o can_v be_v conclude_v that_o he_o suffer_v to_o make_v satisfaction_n for_o their_o sin_n second_o the_o next_o word_n conclude_v not_o satisfaction_n for_o christ_n affliction_n and_o passion_n be_v of_o two_o kind_n some_o personal_a and_o in_o his_o own_o flesh_n some_o by_o sympathy_n and_o compassion_n in_o his_o member_n sustinerem_fw-la the_o first_o be_v 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privatim_fw-la praelegendo_fw-la seu_fw-la consulendo_fw-la multo_fw-la etiam_fw-la minus_fw-la libros_fw-la conscribendo_fw-la affirmare_fw-la praesumat_fw-la licitum_fw-la esse_fw-la cviquam_fw-la personae_fw-la quocunque_fw-la praetextu_fw-la tyrannidis_fw-la reges_fw-la aut_fw-la principes_fw-la occidere_fw-la seu_fw-la mortem_fw-la eye_n machinari_fw-la provinciales_fw-la autem_fw-la qui_fw-la aliquid_fw-la eorum_fw-la resciverint_fw-la nec_fw-la emandarint_fw-la aut_fw-la non_fw-la praevenerint_fw-la incommoda_fw-la quae_fw-la ex_fw-la contraria_fw-la opinion_n sequi_fw-la possunt_fw-la efficiendo_fw-la ut_fw-la hoc_fw-la decretum_fw-la sancte_fw-la obseruetur_fw-la non_fw-la modo_fw-la praedictas_fw-la poenas_fw-la incurrere_fw-la sed_fw-la etiam_fw-la officio_fw-la privari_fw-la voluit_fw-la pub._n claudius_n epist._n dat._n 1614_o 1._o augusti_fw-la in_o virtute_fw-la obedientiae_fw-la commendatur_fw-la provincialibus_fw-la ne_fw-la in_o sua_fw-la provincia_fw-la 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