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A12482 An answer to Thomas Bels late challeng named by him The dovvnfal of popery wherin al his arguments are answered, his manifold vntruths, slaunders, ignorance, contradictions, and corruption of Scripture, & Fathers discouered and disproued: with one table of the articles and chapter, and an other of the more markable things conteyned in this booke. VVhat controuersies be here handled is declared in the next page. By S.R. Smith, Richard, 1566-1655. 1605 (1605) STC 22809; ESTC S110779 275,199 548

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return_v to_o they_o through_o their_o ingratitude_n in_o sin_v after_o the_o say_a pardon_n and_o they_o be_v positive_o damn_v for_o such_o sin_n may_v in_o some_o sort_n be_v say_v to_o be_v positive_o damn_v for_o original_a sin_n second_o though_o answer_n 2._o answer_n the_o antecedent_n be_v true_a it_o can_v not_o follow_v thereof_o that_o concupiscence_n in_o reprobate_n be_v formal_a sin_n but_o only_o that_o original_a sin_n be_v not_o true_o forgive_v in_o baptism_n to_o any_o reprobat_fw-la which_o though_o it_o be_v false_a pertain_v not_o to_o this_o question_n for_o as_o for_o habitual_a 3_o cap._n 1._o parag_v 2._o &_o 3_o concupiscence_n it_o nether_a before_o baptism_n nor_o after_o be_v formal_a sin_n but_o before_o only_o material_o sin_n and_o after_o only_a languor_n and_o weakness_n as_o be_v before_o explicate_v but_o how_o bel_n admit_v all_o reprobate_n to_o be_v reprobate_v positive_o for_o sin_n agree_v with_o his_o master_n caluin_n beza_n and_o other_o 9_o caluin_n beza_n rom._n 9_o teach_v that_o they_o be_v reprobate_v for_o god_n pleasure_n and_o that_o he_o make_v they_o to_o damn_v and_o reprobate_v they_o let_v his_o brother_n in_o 45._o bel_n contradict_v his_o sellow_a minister_n bel_n pag._n 45._o the_o lord_n inquire_v now_o to_o his_o place_n take_v out_o of_o s._n austin_n who_o he_o promise_v to_o show_v to_o be_v so_o plain_a for_o his_o doctrine_n as_o none_o can_v stand_v in_o doubt_n thereof_o but_o who_o well_o remember_v s._n augustine_n word_n and_o caluins_n 18._o chap._n 1._o parag_v 13._o &_o 18._o confession_n before_o cite_v can_v never_o stand_v in_o doubt_n but_o that_o bell_n most_o brag_v where_o he_o have_v lest_o cause_n and_o
like_o a●prating_a pettifogger_n cry_v loud_a when_o he_o have_v lest_o proof_n chap._n iii_o bell_n argument_n out_o of_o s._n austin_n touch_v concupiscence_n answer_v the_o first_o place_n he_o allege_v out_o of_o s._n 45._o bel_n pag._n 45._o austin_n be_v tom_fw-mi 7._o l._n 6._o contr_n julian._n c._n 3._o where_o he_o write_v as_o blindness_n of_o hart_n be_v sin_n punishment_n of_o sin_n and_o cause_n of_o sin_n so_o concupiscence_n of_o the_o flesh_n be_v sin_n punishment_n and_o cause_n of_o sin_n answer_n s._n austin_n compare_v concupiscence_n with_o blindness_n of_o hart_n in_o the_o material_a disorder_n of_o sin_n for_o as_o sin_n be_v against_o the_o rule_n of_o reason_n so_o disordinate_a lust_n not_o in_o formality_n of_o sin_n nether_a say_v i_o this_o only_a but_o can_v prove_v it_o and_o omit_v that_o other_o where_o he_o 13._o lib._n de_fw-fr spir._n &_o ●it_n c._n ult._n l._n 1._o de_fw-fr nupt_a &_o concup_n c._n 23._o l._n 1._o con_v dvas_fw-la epist_n pelag._n c._n 13._o plain_o avouch_v it_o to_o be_v no_o formal_a sin_n as_o be_v before_o show_v i_o prove_v it_o first_o by_o his_o reason_n where_o with_o he_o prove_v it_o to_o be_v sin_n uz_o because_o it_o be_v disobedient_a to_o the_o rule_n of_o reason_n which_o convince_v it_o to_o be_v material_a sin_n and_o a_o disorderly_a and_o evil_a thing_n but_o not_o to_o be_v formal_o sin_n for_o want_v of_o voluntarines_n which_o himself_o necessary_o require_v to_o formal_a sin_n as_o be_v before_o show_v second_o because_o it_o suffice_v to_o s._n austin_n to_o 9_o ●ap_n 1._o parag_n 9_o prove_v concupiscence_n to_o be_v material_a sin_n for_o to_o disprove_v julian_n the_o pelagian_n against_o who_o he_o there_o dispute_v who_o teach_v as_o s._n austin_n there_o and_o other_o where_o testify_v ●●_o lib._n the_o nupt_a &_o concup_n c._n 34._o to_o 7._o &_o l._n 6._o cont_n jul._n ●_o ●●_o that_o it_o be_v laudable_a &_o good_a against_o who_o he_o there_o prove_v by_o the_o example_n of_o blindness_n of_o hart_n that_o it_o be_v not_o only_a punishment_n and_o cause_n of_o sin_n but_o also_o sin_n that_o be_v naught_o evil_a and_o disorderly_a because_o it_o be_v against_o the_o rule_n of_o reason_n which_o be_v to_o be_v sin_n material_o though_o it_o want_v the_o form_n of_o sin_n which_o be_v voluntarines_n 2._o next_o he_o bring_v these_o word_n some_o 46._o bel_n pag._n 46._o iniquity_n be_v in_o man_n when_o the_o inferior_a part_n do_v stubborn_o 7._o s._n augustin_n tom_n 7._o strive_v against_o the_o superior_a albeit_o they_o be_v not_o suffer_v to_o overcome_v and_o quote_v for_o they_o l._n 6._o contr_n julian_n c._n 8._o as_o he_o find_v it_o through_o the_o printer_n error_n false_o quote_v in_o bellarm_n 4._o bellarm._n l._n 3._o de_fw-fr amiss_o great_a &_o stat_fw-la pec_fw-la c._n 9_o bell_n challenge_v nothing_o but_o beauties_n objection_n sup._n c._n 1._o parag_v 3._o &_o 4._o but_o they_o be_v l._n 6._o c._n 19_o which_o add_v to_o that_o that_o almost_o all_o he_o say_v be_v find_v in_o bellarmin_n convince_v that_o he_o make_v this_o boast_a challenge_n out_o of_o his_o objection_n as_o for_o s._n austin_n his_o meaning_n when_o he_o call_v concupiscence_n iniquity_n be_v sufficient_o explicate_v before_o and_o the_o very_a word_n some_o argue_v that_o he_o think_v it_o not_o to_o be_v formal_a sin_n but_o in_o some_o sort_n uz_o material_o beside_o that_o himself_o l._n 2._o contr_n julian_n c._n 5._o expound_v the_o like_a word_n out_o of_o s._n ambrose_n of_o no_o sinful_a iniquity_n 3._o the_o three_o place_n cite_v by_o bel_n be_v l._n 1._o de_fw-fr 46._o pag._n 46._o nupt_a &_o concupis_fw-la c._n 25._o where_o s._n austin_n 7._o s._n augustin_n tom_fw-mi 7._o write_v if_o concupiscence_n can_v both_o be_v in_o the_o baptize_v parent_n and_o be_v no_o sin_n why_o be_v the_o self_n same_o no_o sin_n in_o the_o child_n to_o this_o i_o answer_n say_v s._n austin_n that_o concupiscence_n be_v not_o so_o forgive_v in_o baptism_n that_o it_o be_v no_o more_o but_o that_o it_o be_v no_o more_o impute_v to_o sin_n item_n there_o remain_v not_o any_o thing_n which_o be_v not_o remit_v whereupon_o bel_n infer_v both_o that_o concupiscence_n be_v formal_a sin_n else_o it_o need_v not_o be_v forgive_v &_o that_o it_o be_v true_a sin_n as_o well_o after_o baptism_n as_o before_o though_o it_o be_v not_o impute_v to_o sin_n after_o baptism_n and_o bid_v we_o mark_v that_o s._n austin_n say_v not_o nothing_o be_v sin_n that_o remain_v or_o no_o sin_n remain_v but_o not_o any_o thing_n remain_v which_o be_v not_o remit_v answer_n the_o form_n &_o ●●_o what_o be_v the_o essence_n of_o habitual_a sin_n cap._n ●●_o essence_n of_o habitual_a sin_n be_v the_o guilt_n of_o actual_a sin_n before_o do_v according_a to_o s._n austin_n in_o the_o same_o book_n and_o next_o chapter_n as_o the_o form_n of_o habitual_a sin_n of_o adultery_n be_v the_o guilt_n of_o actual_a adultery_n before_o commit_v &_o the_o form_n of_o that_o habitual_a sin_n which_o we_o have_v by_o origin_n be_v the_o guilt_n of_o adam_n actual_a eat_v the_o apple_n which_o guilt_n givenes_n how_o concupiscence_n need_v for_o givenes_n be_v annex_v to_o concupiscence_n make_v it_o formal_a sin_n and_o to_o require_v forgiveness_n but_o that_o guilt_n be_v take_v away_o by_o god_n forgive_a the_o sin_n as_o the_o same_o holy_a doctor_n teach_v in_o the_o same_o place_n and_o lib._n 6._o austin_n s._n austin_n contr_n julian._n c._n 17._o and_o lib._n 1._o retract_v c_o 13_o concupiscence_n need_v no_o more_o forgiveness_n as_o the_o same_o b._n saint_n write_v lib._n the_o spirit_n 13._o to._n 3._o &_o 1._o &_o lib._n 1._o contr_n dvas_fw-la epist_n pelag._n c._n 13._o &_o light_v c._n ult._n and_o epist_n 200._o nor_o remain_v any_o more_o true_a sin_n more_o than_o the_o body_n remain_v a_o man_n after_o the_o soul_n be_v depart_v and_o in_o this_o very_a place_n which_o bel_n cit_v when_o he_o ask_v why_o concupiscence_n be_v sin_n in_o the_o child_n if_o it_o be_v in_o the_o parent_n baptize_v and_o be_v no_o sin_n in_o he_o evident_o suppose_v that_o it_o be_v no_o true_a sin_n in_o the_o baptize_v 4._o as_o for_o that_o of_o not_o impute_v sin_n what_o s._n austin_n mean_v thereby_o we_o will_v rather_o austin_n what_o no●_n impute_v of_o sin_n be_v with_o s._n austin_n learn_v of_o himself_o then_o of_o bel_n he_o therefore_o in_o the_o very_a word_n which_o bel_n cit_v have_v ask_v why_o concupiscence_n be_v not_o sin_n mark_v bel_n in_o the_o parent_n baptize_v as_o well_o as_o in_o the_o child_n unbaptise_v answer_v that_o by_o baptism_n non_fw-la imputatur_fw-la 7._o none_o but_o a_o infidel_n will_v say_v sin_n be_v not_o ta●en_o away_o in_o baptism_n s._n august_n l._n 1._o cont_n dvas_fw-la epist_n pelag._n c._n 13._o to_o 7._o in_o peccatum_fw-la it_o be_v not_o impute_v for_o sin_n in_o which_o answer_n unless_o he_o do_v by_o not_o impute_v for_o sin_n mean_v make_v no_o sin_n he_o have_v not_o answer_v the_o question_n why_o concupiscence_n be_v no_o sin_n in_o the_o baptize_v parent_n therefore_o with_o he_o concupiscence_n not_o to_o be_v impute_v to_o or_o for_o sin_n be_v to_o be_v make_v no_o sin_n and_o cap._n 32._o he_o say_v that_o concupiscence_n to_o be_v impute_v be_v to_o have_v the_o guilt_n uz_o of_o adam_n actual_a sin_n which_o it_o have_v with_o it_o and_o consequent_o to_o be_v not_o impute_v be_v to_o have_v this_o guilt_n take_v away_o but_o to_o have_v no_o guilt_n be_v to_o have_v no_o sin_n as_o himself_o say_v c._n 26._o therefore_o with_o he_o concupiscence_n to_o be_v not_o impute_v be_v to_o be_v make_v no_o sin_n nether_a indeed_o can_v god_n otherwise_o not_o impute_v sin_n but_o by_o take_v it_o away_o for_o his_o judgement_n be_v according_a to_o truth_n rom._n 2._o v._n 2._o and_o therefore_o if_o there_o be_v sin_n paul_n s._n paul_n in_o we_o he_o must_v needs_o impure_a it_o to_o we_o and_o account_v we_o sinner_n else_o he_o shall_v not_o account_v we_o as_o we_o be_v and_o according_a to_o truth_n and_o albeit_o s._n austin_n do_v not_o in_o this_o place_n say_v in_o plain_a term_n nothing_o be_v sin_n that_o remain_v or_o no_o sin_n remain_v yet_o he_o manifest_o suppose_v the_o first_o when_o he_o ask_v why_o concupiscence_n be_v not_o sin_n mark_v bel_n as_o well_o in_o parent_n baptize_v as_o in_o the_o child_n &_o affirm_v they_o both_o in_o equivalent_a term_n when_o he_o answer_v that_o by_o not_o imputation_n concupiscence_n become_v no_o sin_n in_o the_o baptize_v as_o be_v already_o show_v and_o otherwhere_o plain_o affirm_v that_o all_o sin_n be_v forgive_v in_o baptism_n and_o 26._o s._n austin_n
17._o v._o 17._o immediate_o before_o say_v that_o we_o shall_v be_v coheir_n with_o christ_n if_o we_o suffer_v with_o he_o lest_o we_o shall_v be_v unwilling_a to_o attain_v to_o such_o glory_n by_o sufferance_n he_o add_v in_o the_o verse_n cite_v that_o sufferance_n be_v not_o condign_a that_o be_v not_o comparable_a in_o greatness_n or_o continuance_n to_o future_a glory_n which_o mean_v of_o his_o he_o utter_v in_o plain_a term_n 2._o corinth_n 4._o v._n 17._o say_v our_o tribulation_n which_o present_o paul_n s._n paul_n be_v momentary_a and_o light_n work_v above_o measure_n exceed_o a_o eternal_a weight_n of_o glory_n in_o us._n where_o he_o say_v our_o tribulation_n be_v momentary_a and_o light_n and_o the_o glory_n be_v eternal_a and_o weighty_a which_o he_o mean_v when_o he_o say_v here_o they_o be_v not_o condign_a to_o future_a glory_n and_o hereby_o be_v explicate_v the_o word_n both_o of_o theodoret_n and_o s._n anselme_n upon_o this_o place_n for_o theodoret_n say_v the_o crown_v exceed_v the_o conflict_n and_o the_o labour_n be_v not_o comparable_a to_o the_o reward_n compare_v they_o not_o in_o the_o respect_n of_o desert_n and_o reward_n but_o in_o greatness_n of_o pain_n and_o pleasure_n for_o say_v he_o the_o labour_n be_v little_a and_o the_o gain_n great_a and_o the_o same_o comparison_n in_o bitterness_n of_o pain_n and_o greatness_n of_o pleasure_n make_v s._n anselm_n when_o he_o 8._o s._n ansolm_n rom._n 8._o say_v all_o the_o bitterness_n of_o all_o the_o pain_n of_o this_o life_n shall_v not_o be_v a_o digne_fw-fr merit_n to_o future_a glory_n for_o doubtless_o the_o bitterness_n of_o all_o the_o pain_n of_o this_o life_n be_v not_o so_o great_a as_o the_o pleasure_n of_o heavenly_a joy_n but_o this_o worthy_a champion_n who_o challenge_v all_o papist_n to_o combat_n show_v himself_o ignorant_a in_o translate_n theodoret_n word_n superant_fw-la certamina_fw-la coronae_fw-la thus_o latin_n bel_n want_v latin_n the_o conflict_n of_o the_o crown_n remain_v take_v the_o nominative_a case_n for_o the_o accusative_fw-mi and_o the_o genitive_n for_o the_o nominative_a and_o perhaps_o superant_fw-la for_o supersunt_fw-la both_o contrary_n to_o the_o latin_a and_o to_o sense_n for_o who_o hear_v of_o conflict_n of_o a_o crown_n or_o that_o conflict_n remain_v in_o heaven_n sure_o this_o challenger_n shall_v rather_o be_v set_v to_o school_v to_o learn_v latin_a then_o to_o challenge_n divine_v to_o disputation_n rather_o teach_v to_o construe_v the_o father_n then_o to_o dispute_v out_o of_o they_o but_o as_o s._n hierome_n write_v hieron_n s._n hieron_n epist_n ad_fw-la euagr._fw-la imperitia_fw-la confidentiam_fw-la parit_fw-la none_o so_o bold_a as_o blind_a bayard_n 11._o the_o three_o text_n he_o cit_v be_v out_o of_o s._n 65._o bel_n pag._n 65._o paul_n tit._n 3._o v._n 5._o not_o by_o work_n of_o justice_n which_o we_o have_v do_v but_o according_a to_o his_o mercy_n he_o have_v save_v we_o by_o the_o laver_n of_o 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