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A12768 Maschil vnmasked In a treatise defending this sentence of our Church: vidz. the present Romish Church hath not the nature of the true Church. Against the publick opposition of Mr. Cholmley, and Mr. Butterfield, two children revolted in opinion from their owne subscription, and the faith of their mother the Church of England. By Thomas Spencer. Spencer, Thomas, fl. 1628-1629. 1629 (1629) STC 23073; ESTC S117745 62,307 124

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chap._n 10._o our_o opponent_n b._n his_o second_o argument_n he_o urge_v we_o cap._n 9_o pag._n 37._o with_o a_o second_o argument_n conclude_v after_o this_o manner_n that_o society_n which_o want_v the_o nature_n of_o a_o true_a church_n deny_v fundamental_a truth_n direct_o not_o by_o consequence_n but_o the_o present_a romish_a church_n do_v not_o deny_v fundamental_a truth_n direct_o but_o by_o consequence_n at_o the_o most_o for_o the_o pope_n arithmetic_n which_o he_o use_v in_o calculate_v the_o article_n of_o faith_n be_v not_o subrstaction_n but_o addition_n therefore_o the_o present_a romish_a church_n want_v not_o the_o nature_n of_o a_o true_a church_n the_o assumption_n and_o conclusion_n be_v set_v down_o pag_n 41._o and_o the_o title_n of_o the_o chapter_n pag_n 37._o the_o proposition_n be_v want_v in_o pag._n 21_o 22._o he_o write_v thus_o our_o adversary_n in_o this_o cause_n do_v bring_v the_o denial_n of_o the_o foundation_n of_o faith_n as_o a_o medium_n to_o 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because_o i_o be_o willing_a to_o interpret_v he_o with_o the_o uttermost_a favour_n i_o will_v forbear_v to_o charge_v he_o with_o they_o he_o confine_v fundamental_a truth_n unto_o the_o be_v of_o the_o scripture_n and_o christ_n come_v to_o save_v sinner_n pag._n 19_o &_o 20._o to_o deny_v fundamental_a truth_n according_a to_o he_o direct_o be_v direct_o to_o deny_v that_o jesus_n christ_n come_v into_o the_o world_n to_o save_v sinner_n as_o pagan_n turk_n and_o jew_n do_v pag._n 22._o they_o deny_v it_o by_o consequent_a which_o hold_v it_o direct_o maintain_v any_o one_o assertion_n whatsoever_o whereupon_o the_o direct_a denial_n thereof_o may_v be_v necessary_o conclude_v thus_o the_o galatian_n hold_v circumcision_n do_v by_o consequence_n overthrow_n salvation_n by_o christ_n inasmuch_o as_o it_o be_v impossible_a that_o they_o shall_v stand_v together_o pag._n 23_o 24._o according_a unto_o this_o explication_n this_o argument_n will_v be_v free_a from_o exception_n if_o 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be_v short_a in_o number_n in_o that_o he_o write_v thus_o in_o our_o disputation_n with_o they_o we_o do_v not_o prove_v that_o christ_n come_v to_o save_v sinner_n but_o we_o bring_v it_o in_o proof_n against_o they_o pag._n 62._o and_o this_o say_v he_o be_v a_o tacit_a consent_n of_o all_o we_o that_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n do_v not_o direct_o deny_v the_o foundation_n pag._n 61._o in_o pag_n 70._o he_o write_v thus_o i_o will_v glad_o see_v the_o testimony_n of_o but_o one_o in_o estimation_n for_o his_o learning_n among_o we_o that_o ever_o affirm_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n to_o deny_v the_o foundation_n of_o faith_n direct_o the_o church_n of_o england_n have_v not_o pass_v any_o such_o sentence_n upon_o she_o some_o of_o we_o touch_v this_o matter_n have_v write_v thus_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n deny_v christ_n jesus_n direct_o not_o by_o consequence_n only_o at_o this_o our_o opponent_n b._n pag._n 122._o grow_v very_o angry_a and_o crave_v pardon_n for_o break_v his_o 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be_v of_o the_o scripture_n and_o the_o come_n of_o christ_n to_o save_v sinner_n i_o do_v enough_o to_o satisfy_v this_o argument_n even_o by_o the_o confession_n of_o this_o opponent_n for_o pag._n 124._o he_o write_v thus_o if_o you_o can_v prove_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n direct_o to_o deny_v salvation_n by_o christ_n alone_o we_o bind_v ourselves_o to_o grant_v you_o the_o victory_n and_o you_o be_v the_o day_n if_o i_o prove_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n by_o consequence_n also_o so_o to_o deny_v than_o that_o author_n have_v make_v no_o contradiction_n by_o this_o opponent_n own_o rule_n namely_o because_o both_o of_o they_o may_v be_v true_a together_o this_o opponent_n demand_v how_o or_o where_o that_o proof_n shall_v be_v have_v and_o make_v pag._n 124._o i_o answer_v i_o will_v have_v that_o proof_n out_o of_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n and_o frame_v it_o according_a to_o art_n and_o the_o rule_n of_o answer_v for_o that_o be_v my_o office_n at_o this_o time_n touch_v 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the_o reader_n judge_v of_o our_o cause_n and_o the_o present_a opponent_n chap._n 14._o they_o that_o deny_v salvation_n by_o christ_n by_o consequence_n be_v not_o the_o true_a church_n the_o argument_n propound_v chap._n 11._o num_fw-la 1._o presume_v the_o contradictory_n to_o this_o position_n and_o this_o our_o present_a opponent_n pag._n 25._o and_o 26._o do_v express_o teach_v it_o in_o these_o word_n whole_a church_n have_v deny_v and_o yet_o do_v deny_v by_o consequence_n that_o salvaton_n be_v by_o christ_n yet_o we_o do_v and_o must_v hold_v they_o christian_n all_o this_o while_n we_o have_v let_v that_o supposition_n pass_v untouched_a as_o if_o it_o be_v true_a because_o the_o weakness_n of_o that_o proof_n shall_v be_v the_o more_o apparent_a but_o now_o and_o in_o all_o good_a time_n we_o say_v he_o suppose_v false_o and_o therefore_o he_o be_v a_o beggar_n no_o prover_n we_o prove_v against_o he_o with_o this_o argument_n unto_o the_o true_a church_n christ_n may_v 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do_v say_v so_o or_o lead_v we_o to_o think_v so_o the_o apostle_n in_o the_o 5._o chapter_n reprove_v the_o gallatian_o for_o bite_v and_o devour_v one_o another_o verse_n 15._o and_o for_o vain_a glory_n and_o envy_v verse_n 26._o now_o the_o party_n thus_o reprove_v be_v particular_a person_n not_o general_o the_o whole_a church_n for_o it_o be_v not_o likely_a that_o every_o singular_a man_n in_o gallatia_n be_v so_o guilty_a if_o therefore_o singular_a person_n be_v reprove_v here_o then_o there_o also_o for_o the_o same_o phrase_n and_o manner_n of_o reproof_n be_v use_v both_o there_o and_o here_o if_o any_o man_n be_v desirous_a to_o have_v we_o understand_v the_o apostle_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n of_o gallatia_n vers_fw-la 2_o 3_o 4._o we_o may_v do_v it_o without_o profit_n to_o this_o argument_n for_o then_o i_o grant_v they_o of_o gallatia_n be_v a_o true_a church_n because_o the_o apostle_n cap._n 1._o verse_n 2._o term_n they_o a_o church_n and_o salute_v they_o 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