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A68024	A parte of a register contayninge sundrie memorable matters, written by diuers godly and learned in our time, which stande for, and desire the reformation of our Church, in discipline and ceremonies, accordinge to the pure worde of God, and the lawe of our lande.	Udall, John, 1560?-1592. Demonstration of the trueth of that discipline which Christe hath prescribed in his worde for the government of his Church, in all times and places, untill the ende of the worlde.	1593 (1593)	STC 10400; ESTC S101665	62,546	88

trembling and feare and to kisse the sonne least he be angrie why did you not tell them that all states must be ruled by my worde and not my word by them and their pollicies When these thinges shall be laied to your charge your consciences shall answere that if you had done so you should haue lost your dignities which you loued and sought for especially then shall you wishe that the mountaines woulde fall vppon you and the hilles couer you from the presence of the lambe and from the presence of him that sitteth vppon the throne And I am perswaded that you are in league with hell and haue made a couenant with death yea you doe perswade your selues that there is no God neyther shall there be any such day of account or it were vnpossible that you should giue your eyes any sleepe or take any rest in your beds vntill you had vnto the Lord by repentance and the Churche by confession vuburdened your soules of these hellish wayes wherein you haue so long walked Repent repent be not ashamed to amende though others haue founde you out the way iudge your selues while you haue time least you be made fire brands of hell beyonde all time Let our challendges that wee haue made in the name of the Lord be hearkened vnto Let vs be disputed with before indifferent Iudges let the holy word of God be the touch-stone to trie our disputations by and then shall it easilie appeare who hath the Lorde on his side and who not The trueth wil preuaile in spite of your teeth and all other aduersaries vnto it for God disdaineth to be crossed by dust and ashes Therfore bee not obstinate so long as vntill you will bee founde fighters with God but preuent his wrath least it break forth against you like fire that none can quenche because of the wickednesse of your inuentions Venture your Bishoprickes vpon a disputation and wee will venture our liues take the challendge if you dare If the truth be on your side you may heereby be restored to your dignities and bee no more troubled by vs but if the trueth be against you what shall it profite you to winne the whole world and afterward loose your owne soules If you refuse still our offer then must you needs be guiltie either of this that you knowe your cause will not abide the triall or of this that you wil take no paines to confute vs that keepe such a sturre in the Church doe not think that because you haue humane authoritie on your side therfore you are safe for hee whose authoritie is on our side is the greatest to whose voyce all the Diuels in hell shall stoup much more the sielie arme of sinfull flesh Wet haue sought to aduance this cause of God by humble suite to the Parliament by supplication to your Conuocation house by writing in defence of it and by challendging to dispute for it seeing none of these meanes vsed by vs haue preuailed If it come in by that meanes which will make all your heartes to ake blame your selues for it must preuaile maugre the malice of all that stande against it or such a iudgement must ouertake this lande as shall cause the eares that heare thereof to tingle and make vs bee a by-worde to all that passe by vs. The Lorde open your eyes that you may see the confusions whereof you are the cause and giue you true repentance or confound you in all your purposes that bee against him and the regiment of his sonne Iesus Christe The same Lorde for the loue he beareth to his people open the eyes of her Maiestie and the Honorable Counsellers that they may see your godlesse practises and in pitie to Gods people ridde vs from you and turne away his iudgements which the reiecting of his holie yoke hath deserued not punishing them that mourne for the desolation of Sion with those that spoyle and make hauocke of the Lordes inheritance Amen To the Reader INfinite and vnspeakeable Christian Reader are the miseries from which Jesus Christ our Sauiour hath freed vs and the benefites and blessings wherewith in this life he beginneth and for euer will continue to adorne vs. The consideration wherof if our vnthankfulnes vnto his Maiesty were any way proporcionable to that which we indeuour vnto towards men should make vs continually to deuise and all the dayes of our life to studie how we might shew our selues at least in some sort carefull to glorifie his blessed name aboue all thinges that we desire by how much as his loue towardes vs excelleth whatsoeuer can els according to our wish befall vnto vs but if wee doe with equall ballance on the other side looke into the course of mans life how wel this duetie is performed we shall see that men declare themselues rather bent to spit in his face to defie him then any way to honour him as their head and Soueraigne for to say nothing of the prophane life and godlesse conuersation wherewith the generall number that professeth Iesus Christ is wholy defiled wee see that many nations people and languages are very willing to receiue Iesus Christe as their Priest to sacrifice for their sinnes but that hee shoulde become their King to prescribe lawes vnto them whereby they may be ruled is of all other thinges the moste vnsauorie yea if it offered the most grieuous tidings and vnreasonable request wherein albeit manie nations that haue renounced that whoore of Rome are heynously sinnefull against his glorious Maiestie yet is there none in the whole worlde so farre out of square as England in reteyning that Popish Hierarchie first coyned in the midst of the Mysterie of iniquitie and that filthie sincke of the Canon law which was inuented patched togeather for the confirming and increasing of the kingdome of Antichriste Wherein as great indignitie is offered vnto Jesus Christe in committing his Churche vnto the gouernment of the same as can bee by meane vnderlinges vnto a King in committing his beloued spouse vnto the direction of the Mystresse of the Stewes and inforcing her to liue after the orders of a Brothel house For the reformation whereof while some haue written and others according to their callinges carefully stoode how heynously it hath been taken howe hardly they haue been vsed and what shamefull reproches haue been offered euen vnto the course of the Gospell for spite that hath beene borne vnto reformation almost by all estates and degrees lamentable experience hath taught many of vs but our posteritie shall knowe it more particularlie and the Church throughout the world shall discorne and iudge of it more euidently when their bodies are rotten in the dust and their soules if they repent not in eternall and intollerable torments who haue rezected a request so holy profitable and reasonable yea handeled the intreaters for the same so cruelly vnchristianly and vnlawfully but they would gladly perswade themselues if their conscience would let them that they

bee poore reprocheth God that made them Prou. 17. 5. 3 Obiection It ouerburdeneth the parrishe to prouide for the nourishment of so many church-officers Answere It is not necessarie that they should prouide for any moe of them sauinge those that are exercised in the ministerie of the worde vnlesse any of the rest may neede the liberalitie of the Church 4 Obiection It bringeth in a newe popedome and tyrannie into the Church Answere It is blasphemie to tearme the gouernement of Christ so because we refuse the tyranny of the pope shall we therefore doe what we list and not yeelde obedience to the scepter of Christ. 5 Obiection It is a kinde of Donatisme to chalenge such authoritie ouer Princes Answere And it is flatterie to suffer princes to doe what they liste this is the obiection of Gualter who is a professed enemie to discipline 6 Obiection It taketh away princes authoritie in causes Ecclesiasticall Answere No more then it did from Dauid in his time not so much as the Bb. doe nowe for the prince requireth but this to see the Church well ordered which the Eldership alloweth and craueth 7 Obiection It transformeth the state of the common wealth into a meere popularitie and will alter the gouernement thereof Answere It neyther transformeth nor altereth any thing in it for let it be shewed what damage would come by this discipline to any Magistracie from the Princes throne to the office of the headborow 8 Obiection It will breede contention and partialitie in iudgement Answere Where can be greater contention then the Bb. maintaine for their kingdome or greater partialitie then in them to their kins folkes seruauntes Sycophants c. 9 Obiection It will bee contemned and so good order neglected Answere None euer deserued more contempt then the Bb. and their officers doe for all their pompe but God whose ordinance it is will procure sufficient awe vnto it marke howe these obiections stande togither in the 4. it was tyrannie and here it is too contemptible these be contrary 10 Obiection All alterations be daungerous Answere Neuer where we change from the obedience of Antichrist to the seruice 〈◊〉 the liuinge God was it euer daungerous to amende thi●●amis●e by that course whiche is described of God if it were let the particular of it appeare this might well haue bin Steuen Gardiners reason for poperie in the time of King Henrie the eight The Church must be gouerned onely by the rules of gods worde this is in effect the proposition of the first chap. whervnto all those reasons there alleadged may be referred there is aduouched generally the certayne groundes of the whole Discipline against the imagined libertie left to the Church here is affirmed the particular direction of the Church gouuernement by the authoritie of the Eldershipp to proceede according to the rules of Gods reuealed will and not by that cursed and monstrous cannon lawe which is made manifest vnto vs by these reasons 1 All gouernours are to execute their authoritie by the same warrant from which they haue it But the gouernours of the Church of God haue their warrant to bee gouernours onelie from the worde 1. Cor. 12. 28. Therefore they must gouerne the church onely by the worde 2 The Church is to be gouerned by that which the Ministers may teache vnto the same for they are taught to the ende that they may obey and so be gouerned by the same But the Ministers may teache nothing but the worde of God 1. Cor. 11. 23. Therefore the church is to be gouerned onely by the worde of God 3 That which maketh the Church obedient vnto Christ must be the direction whereby it is to be gouerned Only the worde of God maketh the church obedient vnto Christe Therefore it is to be gouerned by the rules of Gods word 4 Euery kingdome or housholde must be gouerned onlie by the lawes of the King or orders of the housholder The Church is the kingdome and house of God and his worde is the onely lawe that he hath giuen for the same Therefore it must be gouerned onely by the worde of God 5 That which was ordayned to destroy the church of god can not be a good rule to gouerne the same by But such is the canon lawe for it was ordayned to strengthen the kingdome of Antichrist Abstract Therefore it can not bee a good rule to direct the church by and consequentlie it must be gouerned by the worde for no other rule is offered vnto vs but the one of these twaine 6 That whiche was inuented by the Dragon that persecuteth the woman and her childe that same cannot be good for the Church which is that woman But such is the cannon lawe for it was inuented by Antichrist whiche is that Dragon Therefore it can not be good for the rulinge of the church and consequentlie c. 7 That which strengtheneth the power of darkenes and ignorance can not be good to guide them that must walke in light and knowledge But the cannon lawe strengtheneth the power of darknes and ignorance for it increaseth poperie as appeareth by this that there is scarce an officer towards it in these dayes of knowledge but he is a papist Therefore it cannot be good to guide the church of God 8 That which destroyeth the church of God can not bee good to rule the same But the cannon lawe destroyeth it for it crosseth euery faithfull Minister in the discharge of his duetie and euery good christian walking in the wayes of godlines and nippeth in the head euery good action as experience teacheth vs Therefore it cannot be a good rule to gouuerne the church by 9 That which hath bredd moe trayterous papistes in England then the Seminaries at Rome and Rhemes that same can not be good to gouerne the church of God But such is the cannon lawe for it hath kept out Discipline nourished ignorance and fostered superstition and poperie in all estates of people that neuer came at those Seminaries Therefore it can not bee a good rule to gouuerne the Church of God by 10 That which nourished the hope of Antichrist to return hither againe can not bee good to direct in the gouernment of the church But such is the cannon lawe for it keepeth the cages for those vncleane birdes as Archb. and L. Bb. seas Arches Cathedrall churches c. Therefore it can not bee a good rule for the direction of the church 11 That which all the Churches haue cast off as vnfit for the gouernement of the Church can not bee good for the same But all the churches that haue forsaken the pope yea they that haue not receyued the discipline of Christ wholie haue cast off the cannon lawe Therefore it can not bee good for the same 12 Yea we our selues mislike it as appeareth by a statute made vnder Ed. 6. Therefore if gouernours are to rule by the same authoritie whereby they are gouernours if the Church must be gouerned by

A demonstration of the trueth of that Discipline which Christ hath prescribed in his worde for the gouernment of his Church in all times and places vntill the end of the world Wherein are gathered into a plain forme of reasoning the prooft thereof out of the Scriptures the euidence of it by the light of reason rightlie ruled and the testimonies that haue been giuen thereunto by the course of the Church certaine hundreths of yeares after the Apostles time and the generall consent of the Churches rightly reformed in these latter times according as they are alleadged and maintained in those seuerall bookes that haue been written concerning the same Math. 21. 38. The husbandmen said among themselues this is the heire come let vs kill him and let vs take his inheritance Luke 19. 27. Those mine enemies vvhich vvould not that I should raigne ouer them bring hither and flea them before me To the supposed Gouernors of the Church of England the Archbishops Lord Bishops Archdeacons and the rest of that order MANY and most euident haue our declarations been concerning the trueth of that gouernment which Christe hath prescribed in his worde for the ruling of the Church which we haue manifested vnto you both by our writings and speeches as occasion hath been offered neuer hath any one of you taken in hande to say anie thing against it but it hath made his eyes to dazle as the clearest Sun-shining whereby hee hath been driuen to wander hither and thither groping for euasions and yet coulde not escape but hath falne into infinite most mostrous absurdities and blasphemous assertions as by their writinges yet extant it may appeare so forcible is the trueth to amaze the painesayers thereof and so pregnant is falshood to beget and bring foorth thousands of absurdities and euery one worse then other And will you still continue in your damnable and most diuelishe course Haue you solde your selues vnto Satan to fight for him vntill you bee dammed in hell with him Haue you morgaged the saluation of your soules and bodies for the present fruition of your pompe and pleasure is it because you see not what you should doe It may be so for many are so blinde that they grope euen at noone day but me thinkes it can hardly be so vnlesse you bee they that haue eyes see not for the cause hath been by the blessing of God so managed that many plough-men artificers and children doe see it and know it and are able by the worde of God to iustifie it and condemne you to bee aduersaries vnto the Gospell in resisting it But you thinke that gouernment not so needfull and your fault but small if it be any in continuing your course begunne The necessitie of the thing is many wayes apparant both in that it hath so plentifull warrant from Gods own word as the course of this booke doth uidently declare and also in that the Gospell can take no roote nor haue any free passage for want of it and the greatnesse of your fault appeareth by this that in so doing you are the cause of all the ignorance Atheisme schismes treasons poperie and vngodlinesse that is to be founde in this lande which we challenge to proue to your faces if we may indifferently be heard wherof in the meane while we will giue you a taste for the first it is cleare that you are the causers of that damnable ignorance wherein the people are so generallie wrapped for that you haue from time to time stopped the streames of knowledge in those places where the Lorde in mercie bestowed the same and in steed of able and painefull Ministers haue pestered the Churche eyther with presumptuous proude persons that are esteemed learned and take no paines to bringe the people vnto the knowledge of Iesus Christe or which is the greatest number suche ignoraunt Asses and filthie swine as are not worthie to liue in a well ordered common-wealth and that you are the cause of all Atheisme it is plaine for one may as in deede many doe professe it and you say nothing to him for it If the most filthie liuer will fawne vpon you and bribe your seruants you will not only fauour him but assist him against any godly Minister or other but if any that feare God refuse to come vnder the least of your popish ceremonies hee shall bee molested till his purse be emptie or els by your tyrannous dealing he haue made shipwrack of a good censcience And are not you the cause of all schismes that make a hotch-pot of true religion and poperie and so giue some occasion to fall into this course and others into that And it is as cleare that you are so farre the cause of all treasons as without you they had not bin for if euery Church had had her gouernment according to Christes institution our young Gentlemen and students had not bin for want of teaching careful ouersight made a pray vnto the seducers and consequently to those practises which haue brought the bodies of so manie vnto Tyborne and their soules into hell and who but you be the causes of Poperie whilest you vse them so well let them doe wat they list yea and keepe them in office authoritie vnder you yea which more is giue them such offices as none that is not popish can execute I speak not of the ignorance which by your meanes raigneth euerie where which as they confesse is the mother of their deuotion and you are the wretched fathers of that filthie mother whereby you must needes be grandfathers at the least to all kind of poperie And who can without blushing denie you to bee the cause of all vngodlines seeing your gouernment is that which giueth leaue to a man to be any thing sauing a sounde Christian. For certainely it is more free in these dayes to bee a Papist Anabaptist of the famely of loue yea any most wicked one wahtsoeuer then that which we should be and I could liue these twenty yeres any such in Englande yea in a Bishops house it may bee and neuer bee muche molested for it so true is that which you are charged with in a Dialogue lately come foorth against you since burned by you that you care for nothing but the maintenance of your dignities bee it to the damnation of your owne soules and infinite millions moe Enter therefore nowe at the last into the serious confideration of these thinges remember that one day you must bee presented before the tribunall seate of Iesus Christe to bee arraigned for all the soules that haue gone to hell seeing you will needes bee the rulers of the Churche since the Gospell first appeared in this land then shall you not be excused with this the Queene and Counsell will haue it so not with that our state cannot beare it For it shall be said vnto you why do you not informe thē better of my will why taught you them not to worship with

haue onlie executed iustice vpon vs as malefactors and they perswade men that we desire a thing not warranted by the worde not heard of in the Church of God vntill within this fewyeares nor tollerable in any Christian Common-weal whatsoeuer The which monstrous slaunders albeit they haue been many wayes and by many men of moste worthie giftes detected and made knowne in those seuerall bookes that haue beene published concerning the same yet haue I thought it necessarie in an other course to write also of it The course of my enterprise is first in respect of the fauorers of the desired reformation secondlie of the aduersaries of the saeme the fauorers of it are also of two sorts Ministers of the word priuate persons both I hope may haue profit by it Concerning the former when these woefull troublees that were renued vppon vs by that wretched subscription that was euery where vrged did begin to increase I thought it meete to betake my selfe vnto that which I had read or might any way by studie finde out concerning the cause and collected all into a briefe summe referred euery thing vnto some head which beeing euer present with mee might furnishe mee to aunswere in the defence of the trueth though it were of a sodaine by which thorow the blessing of God I found such profit in my seuerall troubles that I thought it a course not altogether vnprofitable for others also and vpon that occasion betooke my selfe vnto a more serious meditation about the matter and communicating the thing with diuers verie worthie men I founde encouragement and heartening on generallie by all whom I made acquainted therewith so that I trust the iudgements yea and wishes also of others so iumping with mine manie Ministers that loue the cause and haue not so throughlie studied as were meet they should may reape some profite therby Now concerning priuate men that loue the cause some haue great affaires in hande and haue no leasure to reade the seuerall bookes of this argument some when they reade are not of sufficient capacitie to conceiue the force of a reason or to make vse of it to informe themselues in the grounded knowledge of the cause thereby some which is the generall fault of our religious Gentlemen will take no paines to reade some are poore and not able to buye the bookes which might let them see the cause all these I hoope may finde helpe in some measure heereby Nowe concerning the aduersaries vnto the cause they are of two sortes also they that know it and they that are ignorant of it the former if they write any thing against it are contented to deale in so rouing a course as may rather arise vnto great volumes then soundlie to say any thing against the cause Wherein D. Whitgift but especially D. Bridges haue giuen vs an euident example and these with others of their iudgement though none in these latter dayes haue written more vnlearnedly then they of any argument of diuinitie what soeuer are contented to make the world beleeue if men will be so wilfully seduced that our argumentes bee no arguments that they be grounded vpon false foundations and that we are not able to conclude our cause in any forme of reasoning The course that is heere taken I trust shall shewe that they are lyers the other sort of aduersaries be they that be meerly ignorant of anie thing either for it or against it and perswading themselues that the sway and shew of the worlde must needes carry the truth with it doe like blinde bayardes boldly venture to say any thing against it and thinke they doe well Now of all these sorts of people I haue to request some thing I hope I shall obtaine my request at the least at the handes of some of them The first sort of fauorers which be the Ministers I intreate that as they tender the glory of God and honour of the cause which they stand in so they would diligently employ themselues in this that they may be found able to defend the same by sounde and euident groundes out of the worde and so much the rather for that the aduersaries doe greatly triumph when they meete with one that professeth the cause and is not able to defend it and confute the gaine sayers of it The second sort of fauourers be the priuate persons that loue the cause whom I beseech to be carefull as of all other pointes of religion of this that they grow in the knowledge of the worde of God whereby they may be able vpon their owne knowledge to defende the trueth and not giue the enemie any occasion to thinke or say that they be of that minde because such and such Ministers whom they doe affect doe thinke so Now concerning the former sort of aduersaries to wit they that know it I pray them to looke into their own hearts they shall finde they mislike it either because it correcteth their excessiue pompe and maintenance or requireth more trauaile in their Ministerie then they are willing to vndergoe or at the least controlleth that dissolutenesse of behauiour wherein they willingly wallow and if it would please God to bring them to a serious meditation of this that it is the will of the mightie God before whom they must be called to giue an account which they doe resist they would I doubt not more carefully looke about them And lastly for them that be ignorant of the cause speake euill of that they knowe not let them if they will be admonished vouchsafe to reade this little booke and wey the reasons with an vpright iudgement which shall cause them at the least to suspend their sharpe censures which so vsuallie appeare in their ordinarie communication and concerning vs all let vs know for one day we shall be sure to feele it that the controuersie is not about goates wooll as the Prouerbe faith neither light trifling matters which may safely be followed or reiected as in deed the enemies of this cause do confidentlie affirm but about no lesse matter then this whether Iesus Christ shall be King or no For if none is said to be a King but he that ruleth by the scepter of his lawes thē the turning out of these orders which Christ hath prescribed in his word for the ruling of the church is to giue him the title and denie him the authoritie belonging to the same and so in trueth to make him an Idoll making him to carrie a shew of that which hee is not and with the crucifiers of him to put a reede in his hand in steed of his yron rod and crowning him with thornes in steede of the crowne of greatest glorie which is the cause that so many Atheistes spit in his face and so many godlesse persons doe make but a iest of him but when hee commeth to shewe him self in his glorious maiestie it shalbe said vnto all these sortes of aduersaries Those mine enimies which would not that I should raigne

that which the Ministers may teache if the worde of God onely make the Church obedient vnto Christ if euerie kingdome must be ruled by the lawes of their King and if the cannon lawe be ordayned to destroye the Church if it was inuented to persecute the church if it strengthen the power of darkenesse and ignorance if it kill the church of God if it breede moe traiterous papistes then the Seminaries at Rome and Rhemes if it nourishe the hope of Antichrists returne lastlie if all the churches that haue forsaken the pope haue cast it of also yea if we our selues doe mislike it then must it needes followe that the Church ought to bee gouerned onely by that golden rule of Gods worde not by that leaden lumpe of the cannon lawe CHAP. 15. THe office of the Church gouernement is meere Ecclesiasticall and therefore the gouernours of the church may not meddle but onely in Church-matters as for example vocation and abdication deciding of controuersies in doctrine and manners so farre as appertayneth to conscience and the church censures T. C. booke 1. pag. 206. Discipl Eccle 126. but they thinke that church-gouernours may also meddle in ciuill causes Whitgift pa. 749. and their practize that take vpon them to be Councellors of state to iudge ciuillie as punish with imprisonment c. But this is disprooued and so the former proued by these reasons 1 That which our Sauiour Christ refused because it belonged not vnto him ruling and teaching the church that same is not lawfull for any Ecclesiasticall person to doe But Christ refused to deuide the inheritance Luke 12. 14. onely because he came to buylde a spirituall kingdome for otherwise he being God had authoritie ouer all thinges Therfore it is not lawfull for Ecclesiasticall persons to bee iudges of ciuill causes 2 That which was forbidden the Apostles is vnlawful for euery Ecclesiasticall officer for they were the chiefe vnder Christ and had after a sort all offices in themselues vntill they could plant them in others But such dominiō was forbidden them as the Kinges of the nations and other ciuill Magistrates haue Luke 22. 28. which is to rule ciuilly Therfore they may not exercise any ciuill authoritie 3 If necessarie dueties are to be lefte rather then our dueties to the Church should not be thorowly discharged then may not a church-officer deale in ciuill iurisdiction which is lesse necessarie vnto him But the former is true as appeareth by the wordes of Christ to him that would haue buried his father Luke 9. 59. 60. Therefore they may not exercise anie ciuill authoritie 4 If he that hath an office must atrende vpon it then may he not meddle in another for he can not attende them both at once But the former is true Rom. 12. 7. Therefore maye no Church-officer medle with temporall iurisdiction 5 As the Souldiour is in his warfare so are Church-officers in the ruling of Gods church But the Souldiour entangleth not him selfe in the things of this life because they are of another nature to his warfare which place Cyprian alleadgeth against a minister that became an executour to his friendes will Therefore church-officers may not meddle with ciuill offices because they are of another nature then his calling 6 Those things that in them selues are of contrarie quallitie can not concurre in one subiect But the gouernments of the Church and common wealth bee such not onelie in this that they are the next speciall members of one generall but also in that the one is spirituall and the other temporall the one respecteth the soule and the other the bodie Therefore they can not be in one man togither and consequentlie c. 7 If the gouernement of the Church both in euery particular mans office and in the generall Eldership bee a matter of great waight and the abilitie of man very small in euery good action then may not a church-officer meddle in another calling whereby hee is made lesse able to discharge his duetie But the former is true as all men may see that looke into the worde of God what is required of such men and knowe by the same worde the manifolde infirmities vntowardnes of man Therefore the latter must needes bee true also 8 If the Apostles who were the most able of all others founde them selues vnfitt for two offices whiche were both Ecclesiasticall then is the best church-gouernour vnfitt for two which be of more difference one from another as bee the gouernement of the church and common wealth But the former is true as appeareth Actes 6. 2. Therefore the latter must needes be true also 9 That which we iustly reprooue in the papistes muste needes if we doe like be founde more vnlawfull and intollerable in ourselues But we iustly reprooue the papistes for hauing in their handes both the swordes that is the Ecclesiasticall and ciuill iurisdiction Therefore it is more intollerable being founde in any of vs. 10 If it be lawfull for an Ecclesiasticall person to exercise the office of the ciuill Magistrate then on the contrary it is lawfull for the ciuill Magistrate to exercise the offices of Ecciesiasticall persons for there is as good reason for the one as the other But the latter is vnlawfull for who would like of any L. Mayor to step into the pulpit and preach c. Therfore the first is vnlawfull also 11 They may not intangle them selues with worldly offices but attende vpon their Ecclesiasticall affaires 12 None of the Clarkes or Cleargie shall receyue any charge of those which are vnder age the cause of that decree is there saide to be for that there were certaine Ministers that were stewardes to noble men and in the 7. cannon that none of them should receyue any secular honors 13 The Bishops shall onely attende vnto prayer reading and preaching 14 He bringeth diuers reasons to prooue that Bishops may neither vsurpe nor take beeing offered vnto them any ciuill office 15 He sheweth howe the offices are to bee distinguished and in what sorte it is sayd that the fathers dealt in the things of this life and howe the corporall punishmentes by the Apostles were particular and extraordinarie 16 When both the offices meete in one man the one hindereth the other so that he that exerciseth the one cannot minister the other 17 There is no man so wise and holy which is able to exercise both the ciuill and Ecclesiasticall power and therefore he that will exercise the one must leaue the other Therefore if Christe refused to iudge in temporall causes because it belonged not to his office if ciuill dominion was forbidden the Apostles if necessarie dueties are rather to bee lefte vndone then our diligence in the matters of the church should be lessened if he that hath an office must attende vppon it if we may not bee intangled with any hinderance if the ciuill and Ecclesiasticall functions bee of contrarie natures if euery office in