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A07039	Hay any worke for Cooper: or a briefe pistle directed by waye of an hublication to the reverende byshopps counselling them, if they will needs be barrelled vp, for feare of smelling in the nostrels of her Maiestie [and] the state, that they would vse the aduise of reuerend Martin, for the prouiding of their cooper. Because the reuerend T.C. (by which misticall letters, is vnderstood, eyther the bounsing parson of Eastmeane, or Tom Coakes his chaplaine) to bee an vnskilfull and a beceytfull [sic] tubtrimmer. Wherein worthy Martin quits himselfe like a man I warrant you, in the modest defence of his selfe and his learned pistles, and makes the coopers hoopes to flye off, and the Bishops tubs to leake out of all crye. Penned and compiled by Martin the Metropolitane.	Marprelate, Martin, pseud.; Throckmorton, Job, 1545-1601, attributed name.; Penry, John, 1559-1593, attributed name.	1589 (1589)	STC 17456; ESTC S112300	39,242	60

maiestrate hath neither the skil nor the commission to make the members of the body of Christ Because he cannot tel to what vse the members of his making may serue in the church Do you thinke T.C. that the maiestrat may make an eie for the visible body of the church For you must vnderstand that wee al this while speake of the visible body can he make a foote or a hand for that body I pray you in what place of the body would you haue them placed If our Sauiour Christ hath left behind him a perfect body surely he hath left therein no place or no vse for members of the maiestrates making inuention if an vnperfect and maimed body I am wel assured that the maiestrate is not able to perfect that which he left vnfinished But I hope T.C. that thou wilt not be so mad and wicked as to say that our Sauiour Christ left behind him heere on earth an vnperfect and maimed body If not then where shal these offices namely these members inuented by the maiestrate be placed therein Would you haue the naturall eies put out as your brethren the bishops haue don in the church of England euer since Iohn of Canterbury vrged his wretched subscription and vnnatural squint gogled eies put in their steede when the body cannot see with any eies but with the natural eies thereof displace them howsoeuer you may seme to help the matter by putting others in their steed yet the body shal be stil blind and maimed What say you T.C. may the Maiestrate cut of the true and natural legges and handes of the body of Christe vnder a pretence to put woodden in their steed I hope you wil not say that he may How then commeth it to passe T.C. that you hold Iohn of Canterbury his office and Iohn Mar-elms to be true and natural members of the body that is true officers of the church and yet hold it laweful for her Maiestie to displace them out of the church I-cannot tel brother what you hold in this point Me think I haue disturbed your sences Do you thinke that the maiestrat may displace the true members of the body of Christ and place woodden in their steed Why this is to hold it lawful for the maiestrate to massacre the body Do you thinke he may not Then may not her maiestie displace Iohn of Canterburies office out of our church if shee may not displace his office then either he by vertue of his office is a lawfull Pope aboue all ciuill magistrates or els the Church gouernment is so prescribed in the word as it is not lawfull for the magestrate to alter the same But Iohn of Canterburie as the puritans their selues confesse is no Pope Puritans confes Iohn Cant. to be no Pope Then either the church gouernment is so prescribed in the word as it may not be altred or els the magestrat may abolish a lawful church gouernement and place another in stead thereof If the Church gouernment be so prescribed in the worde as it cannot be altered then either our gouernment is the same which was therein prescribed or our Church gouerment is a false Churchgouerment If ours be the same which is mentioned in the word Then Paule and Peter were either no true Church gouernours or els Paul and Peter and the rest of Church gouernors in their time were Lordes for all our Church gouernours are Lordes But Paule and Peter c. were no Lords and yet true church gouernours Therefore our Church gouernment is not that which is prescribed in the word and therfore a false and vnlawfull church gouernement If you thinke that the magistrate may displace the lawful offices of the bodie then as I said before you hold it lawfull for the magistrate to maime or deforme the bodie Because whatsoeuer he pulleth in the roome of the true and right members must needs be a deformitie and what place soeuer he leaueth vnfurnished of a member must needes be a maime And this is the onely and sole office of Christe onely to place and displace the members of his bodie to wit the officers of his Church he may lawfully do it so cannot man And therefore the sots of which nomber you T.C. and you Iohn Whitgift and you Deane Iohn and you D. Coosins and you D. Copcot with the rest of the ignoraunt and wretched defendors of our corrupt church gouernement are to be accounted which thinke that the offices of pastors doctors elders and deacons or the most of them may be aswell nowe wanting in the Church as the offices of Apostles prophets and Euangelists do notably bewray their vile ignorance but the cause they doe not hurt For the beastes do not consider that the offices of Apostles Euangelists and Prophets were remoued out of the church not by man but by the Lord because hee in his wisdome did not see any vse of such members in his body after the time of the first planting of the Churche The apostles chose non in fled of Iames being beheded as they did in steed of Iudas Act. 1. which they would haue don if the apos●olicall calling had ben permanent I say they were remooued by the Lord himselfe and not by man because partly the giftes wherewith they were endued partly the largenesse of their commission with certaine other essentiall properties to them belonging were by him abrogated and taken away which no man could do Againe the Apostolicall Euangelical and propheticall callings were either lawfully or vnlawfully abolished out of the Churche if lawfully then they were abolished by the Lord therefore they are neither to be called backe vntill he sheweth it to be his pleasure that it shoulde be so neither can the church be truely said to be maimed for want of them because he which could best tell what members were fitte for his Churche did abolishe them If vnlawfully then those callings may be lawfully called backe againe into the church the church without them is maimed that is wanteth some members For if their callings were iniuriously abrogated they are as iniuriously kept out of the churche being members of the church the church is maimed without vnlesse the Lorde hath shewed that the time of their seruice in the bodie is expired But they are not iniuriously kept out for so her Maiestie shoulde be said to iniurie the church vnlesse she would see Apostles prophets and Euangelists planted therein neither can the church be saide to be maimed for want of them because the Lorde by taking them away hath declared that now there can be no vse of them in the bodie therefore the Lorde abrogated them Therefore also they may be wanting the churche neither maimed nor deformed thereby Whereas the keeping out of eyther of the former offices of pastors doctors elders and deacons is a maiming of the churche the placing of others in their steed a deforming Now reuerend T.C. I beseech you entreat mistris Cooper to write

of the Bishops Antichristian dealing to be hidden The most part of men could not be gotten to read any thing written in the defence of the 〈◊〉 and against the other I bethought mee therefore of a way whereby men might be drawne to do both perceiuing the humors of men in these times especialy of those that are in any place to be giuen to mirth I tooke that course I might lawfully do it I for iesting is lawful by circumstances euen in the greatest matters The circumstances of time place and persons vrged me thereunto I neuer profaned the word in any iest Other mirth I vsed as a couert wherin I would bring the truth into light The Lord being the authour both of mirth and grauitie is it not lawfull in it selfe for the trueth to vse eyther of these wayes when the circumstances do make it lawful My purpose was and is to do good I know I haue don no harme howsoeuer som may iudg Martin to mar al. They are very weake one that so think In that which I haue written I know vndoubtedly that I haue done the Lord and the state of this kingdom great seruice Because I haue in som sort discouered the greatest enemies thereof And by so much the most pestilent enemies because they wound Gods relligion and corrupt the state with Atheism and loosnes and so cal for Gods vengance vppon vs all euen vnder the coulor of relligion I affirm them to be the greatest enemies that now our state hath for if it were not for them the trueth should haue more free passage herein then now it hath All states thereby would be amended and so we should not be subiect vnto Gods displeasure as now we are by reason of them Nowe let me deale with these that are in authority I do make it knowne vnto them that our bishops are the greatest enemies which we haue For they do not only go about but they haue long since fully perswaded our state that they may lawfully procure the Lord to take the sword in hand against the state if this be true haue I not said truly that they are the gretest enemies which our state hath The papistes work no such effect for they are not trusted The Atheistes haue not infected our whol state these haue The attempts of our forraine enemies may be pernicious But they are men as wee are But that God which when our bishops haue and doe make our prince and our gouernors to wadge war who is able to stand against him Wel to the point many haue put her maiestie the parliament counsell in minde that the church officers now among vs are not such as the Lord aloweth of because they are not of his owne ordaininge They haue shewed that this falt is to be amended or the Lords hand to be looked for The bishops on the otherside haue cried out vpon them that haue thus dutifully mooued the state They with a loud voice gaue out that the maiestrat may lawfully maintaine that church gouerment which best fitteth our estate as liuing in the time of peace What do they else herein but say that the magestrat in time of peace may maime and deforme the body of Christ his church That Christ hath left the gouerment of his own house vnperfect and left the same to the discretion of the magestrate wheras Moses before whome in this point of gouernment the Lord Christ is iustly preferred Heb. 3.6 made the gouernment of the legal politie so perfcet as he left not any parte thereof to the discretion of the magestrate Can they deny church officers to be members of the church They are refuted by the expresse text 1. Cor. 12. will they affirme Christ to haue left behinde him an vnperfect body of his church wanting members at the lest wise hauing such members as were only permanent at the magestrates pleasure Why Moses the seruant otherwise gouerned the house in his time And the sonne is commended in this point for wisdome and faithfulnes before him Heb 3.6 Either then that commendation of the sonn before the seruant is a false testimony or the sonne ordained a permanent gouernment in his church If permanent not to be changed What then do they that hold it may be changed at the magestrates pleasure but aduise the maiestrate by his positiue lawes to proclaime that it is his will that if there shal be a church within his dominions he will maime and deforme the same He wil ordaine therein what members he thinketh good He will make it knowne that Christ vnder his gouernment shal be made lesse faithfull then Moses was That he hath left the placing of members in his body vnto the magestrate O cursed beastes that bring this guilt vppon our estate Repent Caitifes while you haue time You shal not haue it I feare when you wil. And looke you that are in authority vnto the equity of the controuersie betwene our wicked bishops and those who woulde haue the disorders of our Churche amended Take heed you be not caried away with slaunders Christs gouerment is neither Mar-prince Mar-state Mar-law nor Mar-magistrate The liuing God whose cause is pleaded for will bee reuenged of you if you giue eare vnto this slander contrary to so many testimonies as are brought out of his word to prooue the contrary He denounceth his wrath against all you that thinke it lawfull for you to maim or deform his church he accounteth his Churche maimed when those offices are therein placed whiche hee hath not appointed to be members thereof he also testifieth that there be no mēbers of his appointment in the Churche but such as he himselfe hath named in his word and those that he hath named man must not displace for so he shoulde put the bodie out of ioynt Nowe our bishops holding the contrary and bearing you in hande that you may practize the contrary do they not driue you to prouoke the Lorde to anger against your owne soules And are they not your enemies They hold the contrary I say for they say that her Maiestie may alter this gouernment now established and thereby they shew either this gouerment to be vnlawfull or that the magistrat may presume to place those members in Gods Church which the Lord neuer mentioned in his word And I beseech you marke howe the case standeth betweene these wretches those whom they call puritans 1 The puritans falsely so called shew it to be vnlawfull for the magistrate to goe about to make any members for the bodie of Christ 2 They hold all officers of the Church to be members of the bodie Rom. 12.6 1. cor 12.8.28 3 And therfore they hold the altering or the abolishing of the offices of church gouernment to be the altering abolishing of the members of the Church 4 The altering abolishing of which members they holde to be vnlawfull because it must needs be a maime vnto the bodie 5 They hold Christ Iesus to haue set downe as

Hay any worke for Cooper Or a briefe Pistle directed by waye of an hublication to the reverende Byshopps counselling them if they will needs be barrelled vp for feare of smelling in the nostrels of her Maiestie the State that they would vse the aduise of reuerend Martin for the prouiding of their Cooper Because the reuerend T.C. by which misticall letters is vnderstood eyther the bounsing Parson of Eastmeane or Tom Coakes his Chaplaine to bee an vnskilfull and a beceytfull tubtrimmer Wherein worthy Martin quits himselfe like a man I warrant you in the modest defence of his selfe and his learned Pistles and makes the Coopers hoopes to flye off and the Bishops Tubs to leake out of all crye Penned and compiled by Martin the Metropolitane Printed in Europe not farre from some of the Bounsing Priestes A man of worshipp to the men of worship that is Martin Marprelate gentleman Primate Metropolitane of all the Martins whersoeuer To the Iohn of al the sir Iohns and to the rest of the terrible priests saith haue among you once againe my cleargie masters For O Brethren there is such a deal of loue growne of late I perceiue betweene you and me that although I would be negligent in sending my Pistles vnto you yet I see you cannot forget me I thought you to bee verye kinde when you sent your Purcivaunts about the countrie to seeke for me But now that you your selues haue taken the paines to write this is out of all crie Why it passes to thinke what louing carefull brethren I haue who although I cannot be gotten to tell them where I am because I loue not the ayre of the Clinke or Gate-house in this colde time of Winter and by reason of my busines in Pistlemaking will notwithstanding make it knowne vnto the world that they haue a moneths mind towards me Now truly brethren I find you kinde why ye do not know what a pleasure you haue done me My worships books were vnknowne to many before you allowed T.C. to admonishe the people of England to take heed that if they loued you they woulde make much of their prelates and the chiefe of the cleargie Now many seeke after my bookes more then euer they did Againe some knew not that our brother Iohn of Fulham was so good vnto the porter of his gate as to make the poore blinde honest soule to be a dum minister Many did not know eyther that Amen is as much as by my fayth so that our Sauiour Christe euer sware by his fayth or that bowling and eating of the Sabboth are of the same nature that Bb. may as lawfully make blinde guydes as Dauid might eate of the Shew bread or that father Thomas tubtrimmer of Winchester good old student is a master of Arts of 45. yeares standing Many I say were ignorant of these thinges and many other prettie toyes vntil you wrote this prettie booke Besides whatsoeuer you ouerpasse in my writings and did not gainsay that I hope wil be iudged to be true And so Iohn a Bridges his treason out of the 448. page of his booke you graunt to be true Your selues you denie not to bee pettie popes The B. of sir Dauids in Wales you denie not to haue two wiues with an hundred other thinges which you do not gainsay so that the reader may iudge that I am true of my worde and vse not to lye like Bb. And this hath greatly commended my worshipps good dealing But in your confutation of my book you haue shewed reuerende Martin to be truepenie in deede For you haue confyrmed rather then confuted him So that brethren the pleasure which you haue done vnto me is out of all scotche and notche And shoulde not I againe be as readie to pleasure you Naye then I shoulde be as vngrateful towards my good brethrē as Iohn of Cant. is to Thomas Cartwright The which Iohn although he hath bin greatly fauored by the said Thomas in that Thomas hath now these many yeares let him alone and said nothing vnto him for not answering his books yet is not ashamed to make a secrete comparison betweene himselfe and Thomas Cartwright As who say Iohn of Lambehith were as learned as Thomas Cartwright What say you old deane Iohn a Bridges haue not you shewed your selfe thankfull vnto hir Maiestie in ouerthrowing hir supremacie in the 448. page of your booke I will lay on load on your skincoat for this geare anon And I will haue my penyworths of all of you brethrē ere I haue done with you for this pains which your T. C hath taken with me This is the puritans craft in procuring me to be confuted I knowe I le be euen with them to A craftie whoresons brethren Bb. did you thinke because the puritans T.C. did set Iohn of Cant at a nonplus and gaue him the ouerthrow that therefore your T.C. alias Thomas Cooper bishop of Winchester or Thomas Cooke his Chaplaine could set me at a nonplus Simple fellowes me thinkes he should not I gesse your T.C. to be Thomas Cooper but I do not peremptorily affirme it because the modest olde student of 52. yeres standing setteth Winchester after Lincolne Rochester in the contents of his booke which blasphemy would not haue bin tollerated by them that saw and allowed the book vnlesse mistres Coopers husband had bin the author of it Secondly because this T.C. the author of this booke is a bishop and therefore Thomas Cooper he is a Bishop because he reckoneth him selfe charged amongst others with those crimes whereof non are accused but bishops alone pag. 101. lin 26. Ha olde Martin yet I-see thou hast it in thee thou wilt enter into the bowels of the cause in hand I perceue Nay if you wil commend me I will giue you more reasons yet The stile and the phrase is very like her husbands that was somtimes woont to write vnto doctor Day of Welles You see I can do it in deed Again non would be so groshead as to gather because my reuerence telleth Deane Iohn that he shall haue twenty fists about his eares more then his owne whereby I meant in deede that manye would write against him by reason of his bomination learning which otherwise neuer ment to take pen hand that I threatned him with blowes and to deale by stafford law Whereas that was far from my meaning and could by no means be gathered out of my words but only by him that pronounced Eulojin for Enlogeni in the pulpit and by him whom a papist made to beleeue that the greek word Enlogeni that is to giue thanks signifieth to make a crosse in the forhead py hy hy hy I cannot but laugh py hy hy hy I cannot but laugh to thinke that an olde soaking student in this learned age is not ashamed to be so impudent as to presume to deale with a papist when he hath no grue in his pocked But I promise you Sir it is no shame to

know not D. Bridges and Iohn Whitgift Yea but his grace also firmely beleeueth that Christ in soule descended into Hell This is the 3. point of his catholike perswasion but tell him from me that he shal neuer be saued by this beliefe and my finger in his mouth Let him tell what our sauiour Christ should do if he did not harrow Hell Where thou saiest M. Yong had onely the dealing with Thakwel the popish printer without his graces priuitie thou liest in thy throat M. Yong him selfe brought him to his grace who ordered the matter as it is set downe in my Pistle But did not I say truely of thee that thou canst cog face lye as fast as a dog can trot and that thou hast a right seasoned wainscoate face of ti nowne chwarnt tee ti vorehead zaze hard as horne Concerning Walde-graue its no matter how you deal with him heez a foolish fellow to suffer you to spoyle his presse and letters an a had bin my worships printer I de a kept him from your clouches And yet it is pitie to belye the diuell and therefore you shall not belye him and goe scotfree As for the presse that Walde-graue solde he did it by order vz. He solde it to an allowed printer I.C. one of his owne companie with the knowledge of his Warden Henry Denham c. And cal you this fauor in releasing him after long imprisonment But I will giue you a president of great fauour in deede wherein you may see what an vngrateful fellow Walde-graue is to his grace who hath bin so good vnto him from time time There being a controuersie betweene another printer and Walde-graue all matters of printing being committed by the LL. of the Counsell to his grace Walde-graue made one of his company his friende who could do much with his grace to deale for him who brake the matter to his worship being at Croydon in his Orcharde so soone as the partie named Walde-graue he sweetely aunswered him saying if it had bin any of the cōpany saue him he would haue graunted the suite but in no case to Walde-graue Well Walde-graue obtayned the R. H. Lord Treasurers letter in his behalfe to his grace who when he had read it said I wil answer my L. Treasurer with that Walde-graue intreated for his fauorable letter to the Wardens of his companie which in the end through D. Coosins he obtained though late yet went home at night thinking to deliuer it in the morning but before he was readie the Wardens were with him and rested him with a Purciuant vpon his graces commandement Walde-graue telling them there was a letter from his grace which he receiued late the last night at Croidon who answered they knew it well inough but this is his pleasure now so they caried Walde-graue to prison and in this his grace was so good vnto him as to help him with an hundred marks ouer the shulders A new reuenge for an old grudge If this be your fauour God keepe me from you ka M. Marprelate Bishops haue iustly receiued according to their desertes hauing found greater fauour at my worships hands thē euer they deserued being notorious disobedient godlesse persons vnthrifty spenders consumers of the fruits not of their own labors as you say Walde-graue was but of the possessions of the church persons that haue violated their faith to god his church hir maiesty this whol kingdom wittingly bring vs al without the great mercy of god to our vndoing so that our wiues children seruants haue cause to curse al L. Bb. Lo T.C. you see that I haue a good gift in imitation and me thinkes I haue brought your wordes into a marueilous good sense wher as before in the cause of Walde-graue they were ilfauoredly wrested and as for his wife children they haue iust cause to curse Iohn of London and Iohn of Canterburie for their tyrannizing ouer him by imprisoning and spoyling his goods and vexing his poore wife and children with continuall rifeling his house with their purciuants who in Nouember last violently rusht into his house breaking through the maine wall thereof after midnight taking away his goods for some of the purciuants solde his books vp and downe the streats to watchmen and others Ah you Antichristian prelats when will you make an ende of defending your tyrannie by the blood and rapine of her maiesties subiectes You haue bin the consumers of the fruits of Walde-graues labors for haue you not sent him so often to prison that it seemed you made a common occupation thereof For assoon as any book is printed in the defence of Christs holy discipline or for that detecting of your Antichristian dealings but your rauening purciuantes flye citie countrie to seeke for Walde-graue as though he were boūd by statute vnto you either to make known who printed seditious books against my L. Face or to go to prison himselfe and threatned with the racke O the greatnes of his graces fauor And are you not ashamed to say that he euer violated his fayth you know wel inough that he is neither Archb. nor L.B. The case thus stood after he had remained a long time in prison not that time when Hartwell his graces secretary wisht that his grace might neuer eat bit of bread after he released him Nor at that time when you profane T.C. to●● him that all puritans had traiterous hearts Nor at that time Wald-graue tolde his grace that he was worse thē Boner in regard of the time Nor that time when he was straungely released by one of the Lorde of good Londons Swans Neither was it at that time when his grace good conscionable noble man violated his promise in that he told the wardens of the staciouers that if Walde-graue woulde come quietly to him cease printing of seditious bookes he would pardon what was past the wardens promised his wife that if he were committed they would lye at his graces gate til he were released and for al this yet he was committed to the white Lyon where he laye sixe weekes Nor it was not at that time when his grace allowed Watson the purciuant to take of Walde-graue 13. s. 4. pence for cariyng of him to the white Lyon But it was that time when his grace kept him 20. weekes together in the white lyon for printing the Complaint of the comminaltie the Practize of prelats A learned mans iudgment c. Means being vsed for his liverty his freud who was bound for him told him his liberty was obtained in maner following You must be bounde saith he in a 100. pounds to print no more books herafter but such as shal be authorized by hir Maiesty or his grace or such as were before lawfully authorized wherunto he answered that it was not possible for him to containe himselfe within the compasse of that bond Whereby it may appeare he swore not to his friend neither should his consent