Selected quad for the lemma: cause_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
cause_n	authority_n	church_n	reason_n	1,519	5	4.9993	4	false

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A36261	Two short discourses against the Romanists by Henry Dodwell ...	Dodwell, Henry, 1641-1711.	1676 (1676)	Wing D1825; ESTC R1351	55,174	261

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