Selected quad for the lemma: cause_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
cause_n	authority_n	church_n	prince_n	1,970	5	6.0780	4	true

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A16643	A plaine confutation of a treatise of Brovvnisme, published by some of that faction, entituled: A description of the visible Church In the confutation wherof, is shewed, that the author hath neither described a true gouerment of the Church, nor yet proued, that outward discipline is the life of the Church. Whereunto is annexed an ansvvere vnto two other pamphlets, by the said factioners latelie dispersed, of certaine conferences had with some of them in prison. Wherein is made knowen the inconstancie of this sect, what the articles are which they still maintaine: as also a short confutation of them. There is also added a short ansvvere vnto such argumentes as they haue vsed to proue the Church of England not to be the Church of God.	Alison, Richard, controversialist.	1590 (1590)	STC 355; ESTC S100153	67,007	148

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factioner_n have_v not_o make_v their_o own_o minister_n in_o tenebris_fw-la they_o may_v with_o less_o impudency_n have_v blame_v the_o make_n of_o we_o spering_n beside_o they_o say_v that_o at_o her_o majesty_n entrance_n unto_o the_o crown_n our_o minister_n be_v set_v over_o the_o people_n without_o a_o outward_a call_n wherein_o i_o will_v not_o oppose_v the_o ministry_n of_o luther_n and_o caluin_n who_o ministry_n they_o can_v deny_v to_o be_v warrantable_a pag._n 53._o of_o their_o book_n and_o yet_o they_o have_v not_o a_o better_a calling_n than_o our_o man_n have_v but_o i_o dare_v avouch_v the_o call_n of_o our_o man_n unto_o the_o ministry_n at_o the_o enter_v in_o of_o her_o majesty_n unto_o the_o crown_n to_o be_v the_o self_n same_o that_o even_o our_o adversary_n have_v warrant_v pag._n 59_o of_o the_o aforesaid_a treatise_n viz._n the_o magistrate_n do_v send_v they_o to_o instruct_v the_o unbeliever_n but_o say_v they_o they_o be_v no_o minister_n unto_o they_o 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