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A36239 An answer to six queries proposed to a gentlewoman of the Church of England, by an emissary of the Church of Rome, fitted to a gentlewomans capacity / by Henry Dodwell ... Dodwell, Henry, 1641-1711. 1688 (1688) Wing D1803; ESTC R14490 28,591 42

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