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A09103 A discussion of the ansvvere of M. VVilliam Barlovv, D. of Diuinity, to the booke intituled: The iudgment of a Catholike Englishman liuing in banishment for his religion &c. Concerning the apology of the new Oath of allegiance. VVritten by the R. Father, F. Robert Persons of the Society of Iesus. VVhervnto since the said Fathers death, is annexed a generall preface, laying open the insufficiency, rayling, lying, and other misdemeanour of M. Barlow in his writing. Parsons, Robert, 1546-1610.; Coffin, Edward, 1571-1626. 1612 (1612) STC 19409; ESTC S114157 504,337 690

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2._o pag._n 168._o of_o queen_n elizabeth_n her_o felicity_n and_o infelicity_n chap._n ii_o pag._n 179._o other_o point_n concern_v queen_n elizabeth_n felicity_n or_o infelicity_n §_o 2._o pag._n 194._o of_o queen_n elizabeth_n sickness_n and_o death_n and_o other_o thing_n belong_v thereunto_o §_o 3._o pag._n 209._o of_o the_o flattery_n and_o sycophancy_n use_v by_o diverse_a minister_n to_o his_o majesty_n of_o england_n to_o the_o hurt_n and_o prejudice_n of_o catholic_a man_n and_o their_o cause_n chap._n iii_o pag._n 229._o about_o toleration_n or_o liberty_n of_o conscience_n demand_v by_o humble_a petition_n at_o his_o majesty_n hand_n by_o catholic_n whether_o it_o be_v height_n of_o pride_n or_o not_o as_o also_o concern_v the_o contention_n between_o protestant_n and_o puritan_n chap._n four_o pag._n 251._o concern_v error_n absurdity_n ignorances_n and_o falsity_n utter_v by_o m._n barlow_n in_o the_o rest_n of_o his_o answer_n chap._n v._o pag._n 273._o whether_o toby_n 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