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antiquity_n to_o that_o of_o carthage_n 19_o can._n 19_o thus_o placuit_fw-la ut_fw-la quicunque_fw-la etc._n etc._n we_o decree_v that_o whosoever_o shall_v petition_v the_o imperial_a majesty_n to_o take_v cognizance_n of_o his_o cause_n for_o oyer_n &_o terminer_n thereof_o in_o any_o of_o his_o majesty_n imperial_a court_n he_o shall_v be_v deprive_v of_o his_o ecclesiastical_a dignity_n now_o then_o orthodox_n upon_o what_o ground_n what_o authority_n what_o warrant_n dare_v you_o affirm_v that_o in_o the_o primitive_a church_n there_o be_v no_o distinction_n of_o court_n and_o that_o justinian_n be_v the_o first_o by_o who_o constitution_n it_o be_v ordain_v and_o provide_v that_o ecclesiastic_n be_v privilege_v to_o have_v their_o trial_n and_o sentence_n before_o their_o prelate_n but_o in_o plain_a truth_n at_o least_o if_o you_o can_v abide_v to_o hear_v the_o truth_n because_o justinian_n be_v a_o prince_n who_o by_o usurpation_n of_o more_o than_o competent_a
authority_n seek_v indeed_o to_o hear_v the_o cause_n of_o ecclesiastic_o and_o thereby_o intrude_v himself_o to_o cut_v as_o it_o be_v their_o spread_a comb_n for_o that_o reason_n menua_n in_o all_o submissive_a humility_n petition_v justinian_n to_o leave_v the_o cognisance_n at_o least_o of_o civil_a cause_n unto_o the_o bishop_n to_o which_o petition_n the_o emperor_n be_v please_v to_o give_v both_o gracious_a care_n and_o princely_a grant_n how_o true_a it_o be_v that_o justinian_n usurp_v excessive_a authority_n it_o be_v evident_a by_o his_o practice_n for_o he_o both_o shuffle_v and_o cut_v the_o card_n he_o intrude_v himself_o to_o bridle_v the_o clergy_n to_o tie_v and_o hold_v they_o short_a unto_o the_o stake_n by_o his_o law_n as_o well_o in_o spiritual_n as_o temporal_n who_o so_o list_v to_o read_v the_o title_n de_fw-fr sanctit_fw-la episcop_n &_o de_fw-fr sacro_fw-la sanct_a ecclesiis_fw-la may_v clear_o see_v the_o same_o with_o half_a a_o eye_n but_o more_o 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