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word_n of_o god_n and_o not_o to_o be_v receive_v further_a than_o they_o do_v agree_v therewith_o and_o therefore_o also_o 31.36_o also_o kercken_n ordeninge_v synod_n nat._n dordr_n art_n 31.36_o there_o be_v liberty_n of_o appeal_n from_o they_o from_o the_o classis_fw-la to_o the_o synod_n and_o from_o a_o provincial_n synod_n to_o a_o nationall_n ii_o the_o authority_n of_o class_n &_o synod_n be_v not_o civil_a neither_o have_v they_o power_n to_o inflict_v civil_a punishment_n they_o 30._o they_o ibid._n art_n 30._o judge_v only_o of_o ecclesiastical_a cause_n &_o that_o in_o ecclesiastical_a manner_n use_v no_o other_o than_o spiritual_a censure_n iii_o in_o the_o classical_a union_n &_o consociation_n of_o neighbour_n church_n 84._o church_n ibid._n art_n 84._o no_o one_o church_n have_v any_o prerogative_n or_o power_n above_o another_o nor_o any_o
one_o minister_n or_o elder_a great_a authority_n than_o another_o but_o their_o question_n be_v determine_v by_o most_o voice_n and_o they_o be_v all_o mutual_o &_o equal_o subject_a unto_o one_o another_o in_o the_o lord_n iu_o this_o government_n of_o church_n by_o class_n do_v not_o deprive_v particular_a church_n &_o congregation_n of_o their_o liberty_n &_o power_n but_o serve_v to_o direct_v &_o strengthen_v they_o in_o the_o right_a use_n &_o exercise_v of_o their_o power_n for_o example_n when_o a_o particular_a church_n with_o their_o elder_n or_o the_o great_a part_n of_o they_o agree_v together_o to_o choose_v a_o minister_n that_o be_v offensive_a or_o unfit_a for_o they_o if_o the_o classis_fw-la upon_o due_a consideration_n of_o the_o matter_n do_v disannul_v their_o election_n &_o hinder_v their_o proceed_n yet_o do_v they_o not_o hereby_o deprive_v they_o of_o their_o liberty_n nor_o take_v from_o they_o their_o privilege_n of_o election_n forasmuch_o as_o they_o do_v still_o leave_v unto_o they_o a_o freedom_n to_o choose_v another_o fit_a minister_n they_o do_v not_o in_o this_o case_n go_v about_o to_o choose_v for_o they_o or_o to_o obtrude_v upon_o they_o another_o minister_n against_o their_o will_n but_o only_o exhort_v they_o to_o use_v their_o power_n and_o liberty_n aright_o and_o to_o show_v more_o care_n and_o godly_a wisdom_n in_o seek_v out_o such_o a_o one_o as_o may_v be_v more_o inoffensive_a &_o fit_a for_o the_o edification_n of_o their_o church_n against_o this_o authority_n of_o class_n and_o synod_n divers_a opposite_n have_v rise_v up_o and_o have_v plead_v for_o a_o new_a kind_n of_o discipline_n contrary_a to_o the_o order_n of_o all_o reform_a church_n and_o contrary_a to_o that_o reformation_n which_o the_o ancient_a nonconformist_n in_o england_n have_v so_o much_o desire_v &_o labour_v for_o and_o yet_o many_o of_o these_o opposite_n do_v in_o the_o mean_a time_n in_o general_a term_n seem_v to_o 94._o to_o mr_n jacob_n in_o his_o auestation_n of_o church-gov_a p._n 118._o &_o 178._o church_n plea._n p._n 94._o embrace_v synod_n and_o great_o to_o approve_v of_o the_o benefit_n that_o come_v by_o they_o but_o herein_o be_v the_o point_n of_o difference_n that_o they_o do_v limit_n &_o confine_v all_o ecclesiastical_a jurisdiction_n within_o the_o bound_n of_o a_o particular_a congregation_n though_o they_o acknowledge_v synod_n to_o be_v lawful_a expedient_a and_o necessary_a yet_o this_o they_o hold_v to_o be_v only_o in_o regard_n of_o counsel_n &_o advise_v for_o provocation_n direction_n &_o countenance_n but_o do_v not_o acknowledge_v they_o to_o have_v any_o authority_n to_o give_v sentence_n for_o the_o decision_n of_o cause_n they_o do_v not_o allow_v class_n or_o synod_n to_o use_v any_o ecclesiastical_a jurisdiction_n or_o censure_n in_o judge_v the_o controversy_n that_o arise_v in_o particular_a congregation_n they_o maintain_v that_o etc._n that_o church_n plea._n pref_o mr_n dau._n reply_n p._n 229_o etc._n etc._n every_o particular_a congregation_n be_v independent_a not_o stand_v under_o any_o other_o ecclesiastical_a authority_n out_o of_o themselves_o this_o opposition_n of_o class_n &_o synod_n be_v make_v special_o by_o the_o 9_o the_o h._n barrow_n discov_n p._n 190._o 191._o apol._n of_o brown_n pos_fw-la 9_o brownist_n and_o by_o they_o have_v the_o minister_n of_o england_n be_v reproach_v for_o the_o respect_n which_o they_o have_v unto_o synod_n after_o they_o mr_n jacob_n in_o his_o writing_n often_o allow_v they_o for_o counsel_n 33_o counsel_n necess_n of_o reform_v p._n 31_o 32_o 33_o yet_o deny_v the_o power_n &_o authority_n which_o we_o asscribe_v unto_o they_o and_o in_o that_o book_n which_o be_v entitle_v english_a puritanisme_n etc._n puritanisme_n chap._n 2._o art_n 3.6_o etc._n etc._n this_o their_o opinion_n be_v most_o plain_o &_o peremptory_o propound_v and_o now_o also_o mr_n davenp_n though_o he_o 226_o he_o apolog._n repl._n p._n 226_o allow_v a_o combination_n of_o particular_a church_n in_o class_n and_o synod_n and_o such_o a_o consociation_n of_o they_o as_o be_v between_o equal_n and_o be_v by_o way_n of_o counsel_n or_o brotherly_a direction_n yet_o he_o say_v 229._o say_v ibid._n p._n 229._o that_o their_o authority_n be_v not_o a_o prerogative_n of_o jurisdiction_n but_o of_o estimation_n &_o reverence_n rather_o because_o god_n ordinance_n have_v limit_v the_o former_a viz._n jurisdiction_n to_o particular_a church_n as_o his_o delegate_n in_o their_o own_o matter_n &_o it_o be_v not_o in_o their_o power_n to_o alienate_v it_o from_o themselves_o but_o the_o latter_a viz._n estimation_n &_o reverence_n be_v due_a to_o class_n consist_v of_o grave_n learned_a prudent_a and_o faithful_a man_n for_o their_o excellent_a personal_a gift_n in_o which_o respect_n their_o judgement_n be_v to_o be_v much_o value_v &_o receyve_v with_o due_a regard_n but_o if_o any_o do_v asscribe_v unto_o class_n a_o power_n of_o jurisdiction_n over_o particular_a church_n and_o that_o in_o thing_n which_o he_o call_v proper_a unto_o themselves_o this_o he_o say_v 230._o say_v ibid._n p._n 230._o be_v to_o subject_v particular_a church_n under_o a_o undue_a power_n this_o he_o call_v a_o usurp_a power_n now_o then_o behold_v what_o this_o estimation_n &_o reverence_n be_v which_o mr_n dau._n allow_v to_o classical_a assembly_n or_o synod_n viz._n not_o so_o much_o power_n as_o be_v allow_v to_o any_o one_o man_n though_o it_o be_v the_o most_o ignorant_a and_o offensive_a that_o be_v a_o member_n of_o a_o particular_a church_n for_o when_o a_o controversy_n arise_v about_o the_o election_n of_o a_o minister_n the_o one_o half_a of_o the_o congregation_n give_v voice_n for_o he_o another_o half_a except_v against_o he_o as_o unsound_a in_o doctrine_n &_o unfit_a for_o they_o if_o a_o whole_a classical_a assembly_n of_o minister_n &_o elder_n depute_v from_o all_o the_o church_n round_o about_o do_v also_o except_v against_o he_o as_o unsound_a and_o unfit_a and_o with_o one_o consent_n judge_v that_o he_o ought_v not_o to_o be_v call_v yet_o for_o one_o voice_n of_o that_o one_o ignorant_a person_n whereby_o the_o one_o part_n of_o the_o congregation_n come_v to_o exceed_v the_o other_o in_o number_n be_v that_o unworthy_a one_o to_o be_v receive_v &_o call_v this_o be_v that_o due_a regard_n that_o estimation_n &_o value_n which_o mr_n dau._n afford_v unto_o this_o classis_fw-la consist_v of_o so_o many_o grave_n learned_a prudent_a &_o faithful_a man_n of_o excellent_a personal_a gift_n while_o he_o maintain_v that_o all_o ecclesiastical_a jurisdiction_n be_v limit_v to_o the_o particular_a church_n and_o all_o the_o counsel_n &_o brotherly_a direction_n of_o the_o classis_fw-la must_v be_v of_o no_o authority_n against_o the_o resolution_n of_o such_o a_o wilful_a company_n to_o censure_v their_o unjust_a proceed_n &_o to_o stay_v the_o same_o so_o again_o 47._o again_o apol._n repl_n p._n 47._o he_o pretend_v mr_n cartwr_n his_o authority_n to_o prove_v that_o other_o church_n have_v no_o power_n of_o hinder_v a_o faulty_a election_n but_o by_o admonition_n which_o power_n every_o christian_a have_v in_o another_o for_o his_o good_a the_o special_a or_o only_a remedy_n which_o the_o opposite_n fly_v unto_o in_o such_o case_n be_v the_o help_n of_o the_o magistrate_n but_o hereby_o the_o importance_n of_o this_o question_n and_o the_o danger_n of_o despise_v synod_n may_v appear_v though_o they_o hold_v that_o christ_n have_v not_o subject_v any_o church_n or_o congregation_n of_o he_o to_o any_o other_o superior_a ecclesiastical_a jurisdiction_n then_o unto_o that_o which_o be_v within_o itself_o etc._n etc._n yet_o they_o hold_v 3_o hold_v engl._n purit_fw-la cap._n 2._o §_o 6._o &_o 3_o that_o if_o in_o the_o choice_n of_o minister_n any_o particular_a church_n shall_v err_v that_o none_o upon_o the_o earth_n but_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n have_v power_n to_o control_n or_o correct_v the_o same_o for_o it_o etc._n etc._n that_o in_o such_o case_n other_o be_v to_o leave_v their_o soul_n to_o the_o immediate_a judgement_n of_o christ_n and_o their_o body_n to_o the_o sword_n of_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n etc._n etc._n but_o this_o help_n &_o remedy_n be_v weak_a &_o insufficient_a &_o that_o many_o way_n for_o i._o the_o church_n of_o christ_n do_v sometime_o remain_v under_o heathenish_a magistrate_n that_o either_o regard_v not_o the_o cause_n of_o the_o church_n &_o refuse_v to_o judge_v their_o controversy_n as_o paul_n &_o gallio_n john_n 18.31_o act._n 18.14_o 15._o or_o else_o seek_v whole_o to_o root_v out_o the_o same_o ii_o the_o church_n be_v sometime_o disperse_v &_o sojourn_v in_o the_o country_n of_o popish_a prince_n and_o magistrate_n as_o the_o church_n which_o at_o this_o day_n live_v under_o the_o cross_n in_o brabant_n &_o flanders_n &_o sundry_a other_o place_n where_o they_o keep_v themselves_o as_o secret_a
as_o may_v be_v and_o what_o help_n can_v they_o expect_v from_o the_o magistrate_n which_o seek_v to_o expel_v they_o out_o of_o their_o territory_n iii_o other_o church_n of_o christ_n do_v abide_v in_o such_o popish_a country_n where_o though_o they_o be_v tolerate_v to_o have_v their_o meeting_n as_o in_o many_o part_n of_o france_n yet_o it_o will_v be_v in_o vain_a for_o they_o to_o seek_v help_n of_o the_o popish_a governor_n that_o have_v dominion_n in_o some_o of_o the_o place_n where_o they_o have_v their_o abode_n iv_o in_o these_o unite_a province_n of_o the_o netherlands_o where_o the_o reform_a church_n be_v maintain_v yet_o forasmuch_o as_o here_o be_v a_o toleration_n of_o many_o sect_n and_o religion_n and_o among_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o brownist_n the_o magistrate_n do_v not_o use_v to_o judge_v their_o ecclesiastical_a controversy_n &_o so_o afford_v no_o help_n unto_o those_o sect_n in_o that_o kind_n when_o do_v the_o brownist_n ever_o seek_v any_o help_n from_o they_o to_o repress_v their_o contention_n and_o schism_n v._o that_o or_o those_o church_n which_o be_v secret_o gather_v in_o england_n according_a to_o the_o direction_n &_o example_n of_o mr_n jacob_n do_v they_o not_o altogether_o want_v the_o help_n of_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n in_o their_o controversy_n he_o prescribe_v this_o remedy_n 28._o remedy_n necess_n of_o reform_v p._n 28._o that_o if_o people_n in_o their_o church-election_n etc._n etc._n will_v presume_v to_o be_v unruly_a &_o violent_a than_o the_o prince_n next_o dwell_n officer_n of_o justice_n may_v &_o aught_o to_o make_v they_o keep_v peace_n &_o quietness_n but_o dare_v he_o or_o he_o in_o any_o of_o their_o contention_n ever_o seek_v that_o remedy_n last_o suppose_v that_o in_o every_o country_n the_o magistrate_n do_v seek_v the_o wealth_n of_o zion_n and_o do_v use_v their_o authority_n to_o correct_v and_o punish_v the_o disorder_n commit_v in_o true_a church_n yet_o will_v not_o this_o remedy_n be_v sufficient_a to_o humble_v obstinate_a offender_n god_n have_v appoint_v other_o mean_n of_o spiritual_a censure_n as_o well_o as_o civil_a punishment_n to_o work_v upon_o the_o conscience_n of_o sinner_n of_o which_o more_o be_v to_o be_v speak_v hereafter_o the_o importance_n of_o this_o question_n may_v further_o appear_v unto_o we_o if_o we_o consider_v the_o manifold_a &_o great_a offence_n &_o scandal_n which_o many_o have_v the_o rather_o fall_v into_o through_o their_o neglect_n &_o contempt_n of_o class_n &_o synod_n and_o through_o want_n of_o that_o help_n which_o they_o may_v have_v obtain_v by_o they_o and_o this_o be_v most_o evident_a in_o the_o practice_n &_o course_n of_o the_o brownist_n in_o that_o infamous_a contention_n when_o francis_n johns_n the_o pastor_n with_o his_o company_n do_v excommunicate_a not_o only_o his_o brother_n george_n johnson_n a_o preacher_n also_o but_o his_o own_o father_n likewise_o john_n johnson_n come_v out_o of_o england_n for_o this_o purpose_n to_o make_v peace_n betwixt_o his_o two_o son_n have_v they_o use_v the_o help_n of_o neighbour_n church_n &_o permit_v they_o to_o judge_v betwixt_o they_o it_o may_v have_v be_v a_o mean_n through_o god_n blessing_n to_o have_v preserve_v they_o from_o such_o extreme_a course_n hereof_o george_n johnson_n oft_o complain_v in_o his_o book_n 41._o book_n discourse_v of_o trouble_n etc._n etc._n p._n 74._o &_o p._n 38.39_o &_o 41._o they_o will_v not_o consent_v hereunto_o they_o will_v not_o be_v persuade_v nor_o entreat_v to_o let_v the_o reform_a church_n hear_v try_v judge_n &_o end_v the_o controversy_n between_o they_o and_o we_o and_o this_o be_v not_o the_o complaint_n of_o g._n johnson_n alone_o but_o the_o minister_n both_o of_o the_o dutch_a and_o french_a church_n in_o amsterdam_n do_v likewise_o give_v testimony_n thereof_o be_v depute_v by_o the_o eldership_n of_o both_o those_o church_n &_o that_o upon_o the_o request_n of_o the_o father_n to_o see_v if_o they_o can_v procure_v franc._n joh._n and_o the_o elder_n of_o his_o church_n to_o submit_v the_o controversy_n to_o their_o trial_n &_o judgement_n this_o appear_v in_o the_o testimony_n hereof_o give_v unto_o the_o father_n john_n johns_n by_o the_o goulattius_n the_o johannes_n a_o vinea_fw-la petrus_n plancius_n jacobus_n arminius_n simon_n goulattius_n minister_n of_o these_o church_n in_o write_v under_o their_o hand_n yea_o &_o further_o the_o church_n of_o the_o separation_n do_v so_o much_o abhor_v to_o have_v their_o cause_n and_o affair_n submit_v unto_o any_o censure_n or_o judgement_n out_o of_o their_o own_o church_n that_o in_o the_o excommunication_n of_o the_o father_n a_o old_a man_n of_o 70._o year_n that_o have_v undertake_v so_o hard_a a_o journey_n as_o he_o confess_v for_o the_o reconcilement_n of_o his_o son_n &_o seek_v such_o mean_n from_o other_o church_n to_o end_v their_o strife_n this_o be_v set_v down_o as_o one_o distinct_a &_o special_a cause_n of_o his_o 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rome_n so_o both_o do_v grant_v liberty_n of_o appeal_v unto_o synod_n yea_o and_o all_o the_o argument_n general_o both_o of_o greek_n and_o latin_n direct_v against_o the_o appeal_n make_v unto_o the_o pope_n do_v yet_o reserve_v a_o liberty_n of_o appeal_n unto_o synod_n this_o may_v be_v observe_v from_o d._n whit._n in_o his_o etc._n his_o de_fw-fr pont._n rom._n qu._n 4._o p._n 4_o 6._o &_o 48â—_n etc._n etc._n large_a &_o ample_a defence_n of_o the_o argument_n of_o nilus_n the_o learned_a bishop_n of_o thessalonica_n as_o he_o call_v he_o and_o in_o his_o maintain_n of_o the_o argument_n of_o the_o latin_n also_o and_o now_o if_o these_o appeal_n be_v grant_v then_o be_v the_o question_n clear_o grant_v and_o full_o yield_v unto_o i_o then_o be_v not_o all_o spiritual_a jurisdiction_n limit_v to_o a_o particular_a church_n then_o be_v not_o church_n independent_a then_o be_v there_o a_o superior_a ecclesiastical_a power_n to_o judge_v the_o controversy_n of_o particular_a 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be_v it_o not_o their_o manner_n frequent_o to_o allege_v the_o ordinance_n of_o the_o jewish_a policy_n to_o strengthen_v and_o confirm_v that_o power_n of_o the_o church_n and_o that_o order_n of_o government_n that_o be_v maintain_v and_o practise_v by_o they_o of_o the_o separation_n their_o confession_n and_o apology_n be_v full_a of_o such_o reason_n but_o instead_o of_o the_o rest_n consider_v we_o at_o this_o time_n the_o writing_n of_o h._n barrow_n who_o to_o prove_v the_o duty_n of_o the_o church_n 1._o church_n h._n barr._n disc_n p._n 1._o allege_v this_o place_n deut._n 17.8_o etc._n etc._n to_o prove_v the_o power_n of_o the_o church_n in_o drive_v away_o and_o keep_v out_o the_o profane_a &_o open_a unworthy_a from_o the_o table_n of_o the_o lord_n allege_v at_o once_o 17._o once_o ibid._n p._n 17._o the_o whole_a book_n of_o deuteronomy_n and_o if_o the_o whole_a book_n than_o this_o 17._o chap._n also_o that_o be_v contain_v therein_o what_o unreasonable_a man_n be_v these_o to_o eat_v up_o and_o devour_v at_o one_o mouthful_n a_o whole_a book_n of_o judicial_a law_n and_o not_o to_o permit_v another_o to_o have_v a_o crumb_n thereof_o or_o to_o allege_v one_o of_o those_o ordinance_n to_o prove_v that_o prince_n for_o their_o transgression_n be_v subject_a unto_o censure_n and_o judgement_n 245._o judgement_n ibid._n p._n 14._o &_o 245._o to_o be_v disfranchise_v out_o of_o the_o church_n and_o to_o be_v deliver_v over_o unto_o satan_n as_o well_o as_o any_o other_o offendor_n he_o allege_v sundry_a example_n and_o all_o out_o of_o the_o old_a testament_n all_o of_o such_o king_n as_o stand_v under_o the_o jewish_a policy_n can_v they_o from_o the_o jewish_a policy_n prove_v they_o to_o be_v subject_a to_o the_o great_a censure_n and_o can_v they_o not_o from_o the_o same_o law_n procure_v they_o liberry_n of_o appeal_n when_o they_o judge_v they_o be_v oppress_v be_v the_o policy_n of_o moses_n in_o force_n to_o bind_v they_o and_o be_v it_o then_o abrogate_v when_o they_o seek_v relief_n by_o appeal_n unto_o a_o superior_a judicatory_a this_o be_v indeed_o a_o injury_n &_o a_o misery_n to_o prince_n &_o people_n to_o high_a and_o low_a to_o be_v bring_v into_o great_a bondage_n under_o christ_n in_o the_o new_a testament_n than_o other_o be_v under_o moses_n in_o the_o old_a these_o thing_n be_v due_o consider_v it_o may_v hereby_o also_o appear_v how_o vain_a that_o be_v which_z mr_n dau._n except_v concern_v appeal_n or_o the_o bring_n of_o cause_n unto_o class_n touch_v that_o which_o i_o have_v say_v upon_o another_o occasion_n from_o deut._n 17.8_o with_o 1.12_o &_o 2._o chron._n 19.8.9_o 10._o he_o except_v as_o follow_v i._o dav_n 215_o dav_n apol._n repl._n p._n 215_o the_o pretend_a reason_n etc._n etc._n will_v not_o help_v he_o in_o the_o case_n question_v unless_o he_o can_v prove_v i._o that_o the_o class_n be_v of_o the_o same_o use_n by_o divine_a institution_n for_o the_o help_n of_o pastor_n which_o have_v the_o assistance_n of_o their_o eldership_n whereof_o that_o judicatory_a be_v for_o the_o help_n of_o moses_n etc._n etc._n answ._n i._o observe_v how_o mr_n dau._n being_n a_o accuser_n and_o a_o advocate_n of_o accuser_n instead_o of_o bring_v any_o proof_n to_o justify_v the_o accusation_n call_v upon_o i_o for_o proof_n of_o that_o establish_a order_n of_o government_n so_o long_o enjoy_v in_o these_o country_n ii_o see_v it_o appear_v that_o the_o order_n of_o ecclesiastical_a government_n prescribe_v deut._n 17._o &_o 2._o chron._n 19_o be_v for_o the_o substance_n of_o it_o no_o part_n of_o the_o ceremonial_a law_n but_o of_o common_a and_o perpetual_a equity_n and_o that_o the_o power_n of_o class_n for_o the_o receive_n of_o appeal_n &_o judge_v the_o cause_n of_o particular_a church_n be_v include_v therein_o it_o be_v thence_o also_o manifest_a that_o the_o power_n &_o authority_n exercise_v by_o class_n &_o synod_n be_v therefore_o of_o divine_a institution_n for_o the_o same_o use_n from_o the_o same_o ground_n of_o holy_a scripture_n iii_o what_o reason_n have_v he_o in_o describe_v the_o use_n of_o class_n to_o mention_v this_o only_a that_o they_o be_v for_o the_o help_n of_o pastor_n see_v both_o they_o &_o those_o judicatories_n deut._n 17.2_o chron._n 19_o be_v for_o the_o help_n &_o benefit_n of_o every_o member_n of_o the_o synagogue_n then_o and_o the_o church_n now_o as_o well_o as_o for_o the_o help_n of_o pastor_n iu._n what_o reason_n have_v he_o also_o in_o speak_v of_o pastor_n now_o to_o add_v these_o word_n which_o have_v the_o assistance_n of_o their_o eldership_n see_v in_o the_o synagogue_n ancient_o their_o pastor_n &_o teacher_n have_v the_o assistance_n of_o a_o eldership_n and_o ruler_n of_o the_o synagogue_n as_o well_o as_o now_o i._o dav_n it_o be_v to_o be_v prove_v ii_o that_o the_o cause_n in_o question_n which_o
church_n which_o be_v the_o title_n then_o give_v unto_o the_o ecclesiastical_a senate_n and_o his_o word_n of_o have_v as_o a_o publican_n &_o heathen_a do_v manifest_o prove_v he_o mean_v to_o speak_v according_a to_o their_o custom_n etc._n etc._n and_o therefore_o also_o in_o his_o 276._o his_o s._n theol_n l._n 7._o c._n 7._o p._n 276._o general_a description_n of_o a_o presbytery_n comprehend_v under_o it_o as_o well_o the_o government_n of_o many_o church_n by_o synod_n as_o of_o one_o particular_a church_n by_o the_o eldership_n thereof_o for_o the_o proof_n and_o warrant_v of_o one_o as_o well_o as_o the_o other_o he_o allege_v this_o rule_n mat._n 18.18_o even_o as_o he_o do_v other_o place_n take_v from_o the_o jewish_a policy_n under_o the_o law_n mr_n brightman_n when_o he_o show_v that_o christ_n in_o his_o church_n have_v appoint_v a_o more_o accurate_a order_n for_o remove_v all_o of_o less_o offence_n then_o that_o which_o the_o pharisee_n observe_v who_o corrupt_v the_o law_n with_o their_o erroneous_a gloss_n condemn_v grosser_n sin_n as_o murder_n and_o neglect_v lesser_a transgression_n yet_o for_o the_o form_n of_o the_o judicatorie_a he_o declare_v that_o it_o be_v such_o a_o one_o as_o the_o former_a writer_n do_v witness_v to_o have_v be_v take_v from_o the_o jew_n policy_n when_o as_o he_o thus_o describe_v it_o 4._o it_o comment_fw-fr in_o cant._n cap._n 4._o the_o synedrion_fw-mi be_v a_o senate_n of_o elder_n watch_v for_o the_o soul_n of_o that_o congregation_n over_o which_o they_o be_v set_v in_o thing_n that_o belong_v unto_o manner_n &_o christian_a honesty_n which_o senate_n because_o it_o represent_v the_o state_n or_o etc._n or_o quoniam_fw-la vicem_fw-la sustineat_fw-la etc._n etc._n bear_v the_o place_n of_o the_o whole_a congregation_n be_v call_v of_o christ_n himself_o the_o church_n say_v tell_v the_o church_n mat._n 18.17_o and_o of_o paul_n be_v call_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o eldership_n 1._o tim._n 4.14_o and_o again_o in_o the_o next_o leaf_n show_v the_o meaning_n of_o that_o text_n matth._n 18.15_o etc._n etc._n only_o remember_v thence_o that_o the_o church_n be_v not_o the_o whole_a congregation_n but_o a_o synedrion_fw-mi or_o senate_n of_o certain_a choose_a person_n and_o for_o aught_o that_o can_v be_v gather_v from_o this_o his_o exposition_n it_o be_v no_o new_a rule_n but_o a_o renew_n and_o confirm_v of_o that_o which_o have_v be_v of_o old_a prescribe_v unto_o israel_n mr_n parker_n for_o the_o maintenance_n of_o class_n and_o synod_n whereby_o many_o particular_a church_n be_v combine_v &_o unite_v together_o argue_v also_o from_o mat._n 18._o and_o that_o after_o a_o double_a manner_n for_o first_o to_o show_v withal_o that_o the_o right_a manner_n and_o form_n of_o combination_n do_v consist_v in_o a_o mutual_a obligation_n of_o church_n without_o subjection_n unto_o the_o rule_n or_o dominion_n of_o any_o one_o he_o reason_n thus_o 331_o thus_o polit._n eccles_n l._n 3._o c._n 22._o p._n 331_o let_v we_o go_v to_o the_o very_a fountain_n of_o combination_n which_o as_o chamierus_n say_v well_o be_v find_v in_o mat._n 18._o because_o many_o church_n be_v combine_v together_o after_o the_o same_o manner_n that_o the_o prime_a church_n viz._n particular_a congregation_n do_v grow_v together_o in_o their_o member_n into_o one_o frame_n and_o he_o maintain_v that_o the_o form_n of_o this_o combination_n &_o come_v together_o be_v note_v in_o those_o word_n in_o my_o name_n and_o if_o they_o agree_v together_o mat._n 18._o v._n 19_o 20._o thus_o he_o derive_v the_o combination_n of_o church_n from_o their_o mutual_a consent_n &_o agreement_n and_o hence_o it_o may_v appear_v further_o that_o as_o member_n of_o particular_a church_n be_v unite_v together_o by_o the_o bond_n of_o mutual_a consent_n not_o only_o for_o counsel_n &_o advise_v but_o also_o for_o the_o censure_a &_o judge_v of_o their_o offence_n and_o this_o without_o superiority_n of_o one_o member_n above_o another_o so_o by_o the_o like_a bond_n of_o mutual_a consent_n many_o church_n be_v also_o unite_v not_o only_o for_o counsel_n but_o for_o the_o mutual_a censure_v &_o decide_v of_o one_o another_o cause_n and_o this_o without_o superiority_n of_o any_o one_o church_n above_o the_o rest_n otherwise_o also_o how_o can_v he_o have_v apply_v these_o thing_n as_o he_o do_v for_o the_o defence_n of_o the_o reform_a church_n wherein_o such_o authority_n of_o class_n and_o synod_n be_v exercise_v second_o whereas_o d._n whitgift_n &_o other_o dispute_v against_o the_o class_n &_o presbytery_n of_o scotland_n &_o the_o low-countries_n where_o the_o fault_n and_o cause_n of_o particular_a church_n be_v judge_v &_o censure_v and_o ask_v for_o scripture_n to_o prove_v and_o justify_v such_o a_o order_n of_o government_n mr_n parker_n in_o defence_n of_o they_o beside_o other_o answer_n &_o proof_n allege_v this_o place_n matt._n 18._o for_o the_o warrant_v thereof_o and_o say_v 355._o say_v polit._n eccl._n l._n 3._o c._n 24._o p._n 355._o this_o proceed_n from_o a_o eldership_n to_o a_o classis_fw-la from_o a_o classis_fw-la to_o a_o synod_n be_v found_v in_o the_o institution_n of_o christ_n matt._n 18.17_o by_o proportion_n on_o this_o manner_n he_o command_v that_o from_o the_o admonition_n of_o one_o be_v despise_v man_n proceed_v unto_o the_o admonition_n of_o two_o or_o three_o if_o that_o be_v contemn_v unto_o the_o censure_n of_o the_o eldership_n if_o that_o be_v despise_v unto_o the_o censure_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n therefore_o why_o not_o from_o one_o whole_a church_n unto_o many_o in_o a_o classis_fw-la &_o again_o from_o many_o in_o a_o classis_fw-la unto_o yet_o more_o in_o a_o synod_n and_o have_v lay_v this_o just_a foundation_n he_o reprove_v the_o opposite_n further_o from_o the_o confession_n of_o some_o of_o they_o contradict_v the_o other_o ibidem_fw-la other_o ibidem_fw-la both_o sutlive_n &_o downam_n do_v interpret_v the_o church_n mat._n 18._o to_o be_v either_o a_o consistory_n or_o a_o synod_n behold_v therefore_o by_o the_o judgement_n even_o of_o hierachicall_a man_n themselves_o a_o manifest_a commandment_n of_o christ_n for_o classical_a assembly_n for_o what_o be_v not_o the_o classis_fw-la a_o certain_a kind_n of_o synod_n zepperus_n have_v speak_v of_o the_o ecclesiastical_a policy_n or_o government_n in_o the_o judaical_a church_n show_v how_o the_o same_o be_v continue_v when_o he_o say_v 198.199_o say_v polit._n eccl._n l._n 1._o c._n 16._o p._n 198.199_o this_o administration_n of_o ecclesiastical_a discipline_n christ_n also_o establish_v and_o make_v to_o be_v perpetual_a mat._n 18.15_o etc._n etc._n gersom_a bucerus_n that_o excellent_a and_o worthy_a servant_n of_o god_n who_o have_v give_v so_o full_a a_o answer_n to_o d._n downam_n in_o defence_n of_o the_o discipline_n practise_v in_o the_o reform_a church_n be_v as_o full_a in_o this_o point_n that_o the_o rule_n of_o christ_n mat._n 18._o be_v no_o new_a rule_n he_o maintain_v that_o 182._o that_o dissert_n de_fw-fr gubern_n eccl_n p._n 182._o the_o form_n of_o the_o sacred_a polity_n in_o the_o new_a testament_n aught_o to_o be_v frame_v according_a to_o the_o manner_n of_o the_o jew_n polity_n to_o this_o end_n he_o 48._o he_o ibid._n p._n 48._o bring_v the_o testimony_n of_o many_o learned_a writer_n witness_v with_o he_o unto_o the_o same_o truth_n philip_n melanchthon_n as_o he_o be_v there_o allege_a by_o he_o show_v what_o order_n of_o discipline_n be_v appoint_v by_o christ_n in_o those_o word_n tell_v the_o church_n mat._n 18._o say_v 15._o say_v p._n melan_n comment_n in_o 1._o cor._n 15._o this_o custom_n be_v not_o first_o institute_v of_o the_o messiah_n but_o be_v the_o old_a manner_n of_o the_o leviticall_a priest_n who_o in_o their_o place_n maintain_v the_o discipline_n by_o such_o judgement_n though_o they_o have_v also_o other_o political_a judgement_n &_o punishment_n victorinus_n strigelius_n cite_v also_o by_o he_o speak_v in_o like_a manner_n 18._o manner_n hypom_n in_o n._n t._n in_o mat._n 18._o a_o new_a form_n of_o judgement_n be_v not_o institute_v in_o this_o place_n but_o the_o old_a manner_n be_v repeat_v deliver_v from_o the_o first_o father_n the_o step_n whereof_o have_v always_o remain_v in_o the_o church_n etc._n etc._n pezelius_n have_v express_v the_o form_n of_o government_n in_o israel_n write_v thus_o 7.8.690_o thus_o argum._n &_o resp_n theol._n part_n 7.8.690_o according_a to_o this_o example_n of_o the_o old_a polity_n almost_o the_o same_o order_n of_o judgement_n be_v keep_v in_o the_o new_a testament_n etc._n etc._n musculus_fw-la 5._o musculus_fw-la loc._n con_v de_fw-fr eccl._n c._n 5._o &_o aretius_n excom_n aretius_n problen_n tom._n 2._o loc_fw-la de_fw-fr excom_n be_v likewise_o bring_v in_o by_o he_o as_o derive_v &_o describe_v the_o discipline_n of_o the_o church_n matth._n 18._o from_o
no_o new_a rule_n in_o the_o new_a testament_n when_o the_o like_a order_n be_v establish_v for_o go_v first_o unto_o the_o eldership_n and_o seek_v redress_n of_o evil_a by_o they_o mr_n ainsw_n acknowledge_v that_o 451._o that_o ibid._n p._n 451._o the_o key_n of_o the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n be_v in_o more_o special_a manner_n give_v unto_o they_o and_o therefore_o in_o special_a manner_n ought_v they_o to_o be_v tell_v and_o speak_v unto_o for_o the_o reformation_n of_o evil_n see_v they_o be_v to_o guide_v and_o go_v before_o the_o people_n as_o in_o other_o affair_n so_o in_o administer_a the_o censure_n of_o the_o church_n therefore_o ordinary_o matter_n be_v to_o be_v bring_v unto_o they_o before_o they_o be_v bring_v unto_o the_o whole_a congregation_n 11._o as_o it_o be_v the_o ordinance_n of_o god_n in_o the_o new_a testament_n 1._o cor._n 5._o &_o according_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o reform_a church_n in_o these_o country_n that_o the_o more_o weighty_a affair_n &_o censure_n of_o the_o church_n shall_v not_o be_v administer_v without_o knowledge_n and_o consent_n of_o the_o body_n of_o the_o church_n so_o that_o none_o be_v either_o receive_v for_o a_o member_n of_o the_o church_n or_o cast_v out_o by_o excommunication_n but_o they_o do_v first_o tell_v the_o church_n even_o the_o whole_a congregation_n be_v solemn_o &_o public_o acquaint_v therewith_o &_o liberty_n grant_v unto_o they_o to_o show_v their_o assent_n or_o dissent_v therein_o so_o mr_n ainsw_n himself_o acknowledge_v that_o there_o be_v a_o like_a order_n in_o the_o old_a testament_n the_o scripture_n which_o he_o allege_v and_o his_o manner_n of_o argue_v from_o they_o do_v import_v so_o much_o of_o israel_n he_o say_v 8._o say_v commun_n of_o s._n c._n 18._o §_o 8._o unto_o all_o &_o every_o of_o the_o israelite_n be_v commend_v the_o care_n &_o observation_n of_o all_o god_n statute_n that_o neither_o all_o nor_o any_o of_o they_o man_n nor_o woman_n nor_o family_n nor_o tribe_n shall_v forsake_v the_o lord_n nor_o suffer_v among_o they_o any_o root_n to_o bring_v forth_o gall_n and_o wormwood_n etc._n etc._n deut._n 29.18_o so_o of_o the_o multitude_n of_o believer_n and_o people_n in_o the_o new_a testament_n he_o write_v in_o like_a manner_n that_o 9_o that_o ibid._n §_o 9_o they_o be_v will_v to_o exhort_v and_o admonish_v each_o other_o even_o the_o officer_n of_o the_o church_n etc._n etc._n and_o to_o look_v that_o no_o root_n of_o bitterness_n spring_v up_o and_o trouble_v they_o etc._n etc._n heb._n 12.15_o etc._n etc._n again_o he_o say_v 8._o say_v ibid._n c._n 18._o §_o 8._o even_o the_o leprous_a &_o unclean_a though_o the_o trial_n of_o they_o apperteyn_v to_o the_o priest_n leu._n 13._o yet_o all_o the_o child_n of_o israel_n be_v to_o look_v that_o such_o be_v remove_v out_o of_o the_o host_n yea_o the_o care_n of_o the_o priest_n purity_n in_o their_o administration_n apperteyn_v to_o all_o the_o people_n levit._fw-la 21.1_o 8_o 24._o and_o long_o after_o both_o in_o counsel_n &_o in_o the_o redress_v of_o public_a evil_n and_o trespass_n all_o israel_n indifferent_o have_v their_o hand_n and_o presence_n as_o the_o scripture_n show_v 2._o chron._n 30.21_o 23._o ezra_n 10.1_o 9_o 12_o etc._n etc._n then_o present_o he_o parallel_v the_o course_n of_o the_o church_n in_o the_o new_a testament_n with_o this_o suppose_a practice_n in_o the_o old_a save_v the_o church_n in_o the_o apostle_n day_n have_v also_o the_o like_a right_n and_o liberty_n for_o the_o multitude_n of_o believer_n be_v both_o beholder_n and_o actor_n in_o the_o common_a affair_n etc._n etc._n afterward_o again_o speak_v of_o the_o rule_n of_o admonition_n &_o of_o the_o censure_n of_o the_o church_n he_o say_v 449._o say_v ibid._n c._n 22._o §_o 12_o p._n 449._o the_o keep_n of_o which_o rule_n belong_v to_o all_o the_o saint_n as_o the_o commandment_n direct_v of_o old_a to_o the_o child_n of_o israel_n num._n 5.2_o levit._fw-la 19.17_o and_o in_o the_o new_a testament_n to_o all_o the_o brethren_n &_o church_n do_v show_v matt._n 18.15_o 1._o cor._n 5._o and_o thus_o by_o his_o own_o confession_n yea_o even_o according_a to_o his_o own_o opinion_n in_o respect_n of_o the_o church_n power_n and_o the_o people_n right_a there_o be_v no_o new_a rule_n give_v by_o christ_n in_o mat._n 18._o whereas_o it_o be_v object_v that_o the_o jewish_a synedrion_fw-mi 76._o synedrion_fw-mi h._n barr._n resut_o of_o giff._n p._n 76._o by_o the_o institution_n of_o god_n be_v mere_o civil_a etc._n etc._n that_o 21._o that_o d._n bilson_n perpet_n gov_fw-mi ch_n 4._o p._n 21._o moses_n appoint_v neither_o judge_n nor_o elder_n in_o city_n or_o synedrion_n but_o they_o be_v magistrate_n to_o execute_v the_o judgement_n of_o the_o law_n &_o have_v the_o sword_n to_o chastise_v the_o body_n and_o punish_v with_o death_n etc._n etc._n the_o error_n of_o this_o assertion_n have_v be_v show_v 35.41_o show_v pag._n 34_o 35.41_o before_o from_o the_o scripture_n deut._n 17._o &_o 2._o chron._n 19_o from_o these_o place_n be_v the_o distinction_n of_o civil_a and_o ecclesiastical_a judgement_n maintain_v by_o many_o learned_a writer_n as_o 204._o as_o conf._n with_o hart_n c._n 6._o div_o 2._o p._n 203_o 204._o d._n rainolds_n 152.153_o rainolds_n first_o reply_n to_o d._n whitg_n p._n 192._o second_o reply_n latter_a part_n p._n 152.153_o mr_n cartwright_n 490.491_o cartwright_n counterp_v in_o part_n of_o regist_n p._n 490.491_o mr_n fenner_n and_o the_o 522._o the_o ibid._n p._n 522._o defender_n of_o he_o and_o most_o large_o by_o etc._n by_o diss_n de_fw-fr gub._n eccl._n p._n 59_o etc._n etc._n g._n bucerus_n as_o for_o h._n barrow_n he_o sufficient_o resute_v himself_o when_o he_o acknowledge_v that_o the_o priest_n do_v bear_v the_o charge_n and_o have_v the_o decide_n of_o all_o ecclesiastical_a cause_n numb_a 18._o deut._n 17._o this_o they_o can_v not_o do_v without_o judge_v of_o they_o &_o therefore_o it_o appear_v hence_o that_o they_o have_v a_o double_a synedrion_fw-mi one_o ecclesiastical_a the_o other_o civil_a chap._n vi_o the_o three_o argument_n take_v from_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n in_o the_o apostle_n time_n our_o three_o argument_n be_v take_v from_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o primitive_a christian_a church_n after_o the_o ascension_n of_o christ_n from_o which_o we_o reason_n on_o this_o manner_n that_o government_n of_o the_o church_n which_o be_v commend_v unto_o we_o &_o approve_v by_o the_o example_n of_o the_o apostle_n and_o apostolic_a church_n be_v worthy_o to_o be_v embrace_v of_o we_o but_o the_o government_n of_o the_o church_n by_o synod_n which_o beside_o their_o counsel_n and_o admonition_n do_v also_o with_o authority_n judge_n and_o determine_v the_o weighty_a cause_n and_o affair_n of_o particular_a church_n be_v commend_v unto_o we_o as_o be_v above_o say_v therefore_o etc._n etc._n the_o assumption_n of_o this_o argument_n be_v prove_v i._o by_o that_o holy_a assembly_n or_o synod_n which_o be_v record_v act._n 1_n 15-26_a wherein_o there_o be_v not_o only_o counsel_v give_v but_o also_o a_o exercise_n of_o ecclesiastical_a power_n &_o authority_n and_o that_o in_o such_o a_o business_n as_o be_v of_o great_a and_o rare_a importance_n in_o the_o choice_n of_o a_o new_a apostle_n this_o assembly_n be_v not_o a_o ordinary_a congregation_n or_o particular_a church_n but_o it_o be_v a_o synodical_a assembly_n and_o perform_v such_o a_o work_n as_o do_v not_o belong_v unto_o any_o one_o particular_a church_n this_o appear_v divers_a way_n i._o in_o respect_n of_o the_o person_n of_o who_o this_o assembly_n do_v consist_v and_o these_o again_o of_o two_o sort_n first_o of_o apostle_n who_o be_v such_o person_n as_o be_v not_o tie_v unto_o any_o particular_a church_n but_o have_v a_o universal_a charge_n matt._n 28.19_o rom._n 10.15_o 18._o this_o commission_n be_v unto_o they_o as_o much_o as_o if_o they_o have_v have_v a_o special_a delegation_n from_o many_o or_o all_o church_n so_o that_o their_o presence_n and_o concurrence_n be_v sufficient_a to_o make_v this_o assembly_n in_o some_o measure_n as_o a_o general_a or_o universal_a synod_n these_o eleven_o apostle_n have_v also_o a_o peculiar_a charge_n to_o be_v at_o this_o time_n at_o jerusalem_n the_o place_n of_o this_o assembly_n and_o to_o tarry_v there_o for_o a_o while_n luk._n 24.49_o act._n 1.4_o be_v by_o divine_a direction_n bring_v unto_o this_o synod_n second_o for_o other_o person_n the_o disciple_n that_o be_v present_a at_o this_o assembly_n it_o appear_v they_o be_v from_o divers_a place_n some_o of_o they_o from_o galilee_n as_o the_o brethren_n of_o christ_n there_o mention_v act._n 1.14_o with_o mat._n 13.55_o 56._o &_o how_o many_o of_o they_o be_v inhabitant_n of_o jerusalem_n or_o judaea_n it_o be_v not_o specify_v
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show_v the_o contrary_a he_o say_v 359._o say_v p._n 358._o 359._o the_o superior_a power_n that_o be_v in_o class_n arise_v from_o the_o church_n that_o be_v combine_v in_o class_n etc._n etc._n no_o church_n have_v dominion_n or_o pre-eminence_n over_o another_o he_o say_v that_o in_o the_o metropolitical_a or_o episcopal_a jurisdiction_n church_n have_v not_o their_o own_o government_n but_o be_v spoil_v of_o their_o eldership_n and_o subject_v to_o the_o power_n of_o one_o and_o to_o a_o external_a church_n namely_o the_o cathedral_n all_o which_o thing_n be_v contrary_a in_o our_o class_n every_o church_n enjoy_v she_o own_o government_n by_o her_o own_o eldership_n the_o classis_fw-la be_v no_o external_a church_n much_o less_o a_o external_a court_n for_o it_o consist_v of_o these_o church_n that_o be_v combine_v so_o that_o here_o be_v no_o authority_n over_o many_o the_o parish_n do_v join_v their_o authority_n together_o and_o that_o equal_o after_o the_o combination_n of_o many_o church_n into_o one_o eldership_n and_o one_o classis_fw-la mr_n parker_n proceed_v 362._o proceed_v pol._n eco_n lib._n 3._o c._n 25._o p._n 362._o to_o speak_v of_o that_o combination_n of_o many_o church_n in_o many_o class_n which_o be_v into_o one_o synod_n and_o that_o either_o provincial_n nationall_n or_o general_n the_o nationall_n contain_v under_o it_o the_o church_n of_o sundry_a province_n and_o the_o general_n comprehend_v the_o church_n of_o many_o nation_n touch_v synod_n he_o speak_v of_o the_o 7_o controversy_n about_o they_o and_o first_o of_o the_o necessity_n of_o synod_n he_o say_v he_o never_o know_v any_o in_o the_o reform_a church_n to_o deny_v the_o necessity_n of_o synod_n before_o hugo_n grotius_n that_o be_v the_o great_a friend_n of_o arminius_n he_o show_v from_o bogerman_n that_o the_o reform_a do_v stand_v for_o the_o necessity_n of_o synod_n more_o than_o any_o other_o whereas_o d._n sutlive_n condemn_v such_o as_o will_v have_v status_fw-la 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one_o bishop_n alone_o and_o whereas_o he_o add_v further_a in_o the_o same_o place_n that_o the_o hierarchy_n be_v creep_v in_o in_o place_n of_o the_o synod_n take_v violent_o unto_o itself_o those_o thing_n which_o by_o divine_a right_n do_v belong_v unto_o synod_n he_o do_v herein_o acknowledge_v the_o authority_n of_o synod_n to_o be_v of_o divine_a right_n for_o what_o else_o or_o what_o more_o do_v the_o hierarchy_n snatch_v unto_o themselves_o than_o authority_n of_o censure_n and_o jurisdiction_n in_o the_o judgement_n of_o ecclesiastical_a cause_n touch_v the_o second_o controversy_n about_o synod_n viz._n the_o authority_n and_o power_n of_o they_o 367._o they_o ibid._n c._n 26._o p_o 367._o he_o note_v that_o as_o there_o be_v a_o aristocratical_a government_n in_o eldership_n so_o there_o be_v a_o aristocratical_a government_n by_o synod_n and_o from_o this_o his_o assertion_n it_o follow_v that_o as_o the_o consistory_n or_o eldership_n have_v a_o jurisdiction_n and_o power_n of_o government_n in_o they_o and_o be_v not_o only_o for_o counsel_n so_o the_o synod_n in_o like_a manner_n when_o as_o he_o say_v further_a 368._o further_a p._n 368._o that_o the_o synod_n borrow_v that_o authority_n which_o they_o have_v from_o the_o prime_a church_n this_o argue_v that_o he_o confess_v they_o have_v some_o authority_n else_o how_o can_v they_o be_v say_v to_o borrow_v it_o to_o like_o purpose_n he_o argue_v there_o again_o 370._o again_o p._n 370._o it_o appear_v by_o the_o very_a obligation_n that_o synod_n have_v their_o authority_n from_o the_o prime_a church_n for_o otherwise_o synod_n shall_v not_o bind_v the_o prime_a church_n unless_o by_o send_v their_o delegate_n they_o do_v avow_v their_o consent_n unless_o they_o have_v just_a cause_n afterward_o of_o dissent_v thus_o he_o acknowledge_v a_o bond_n of_o authority_n and_o a_o obligatory_a power_n in_o synod_n &_o as_o for_o the_o exception_n which_o he_o add_v it_o be_v as_o well_o to_o be_v add_v unto_o any_o judicatory_a either_o civil_a or_o ecclesiastical_a whatsoever_o for_o there_o be_v no_o jurisdiction_n nor_o authority_n of_o the_o high_a governor_n on_o earth_n that_o aught_o to_o bind_v we_o unto_o the_o obedience_n of_o their_o decree_n if_o we_o have_v just_a cause_n of_o dissent_v for_o the_o convocation_n of_o synod_n which_o be_v the_o three_o controversy_n 371._o controversy_n ibid._n c._n 27._o p._n 371._o mr_n parker_n do_v maintain_v and_o much_o commend_v the_o practice_n and_o order_n observe_v in_o these_o reform_a church_n and_o declare_v at_o large_a what_o their_o manner_n be_v from_o divers_a act_n of_o their_o synod_n he_o say_v it_o be_v cum_fw-la sapientissime_fw-la tum_fw-la saluberrime_fw-la instituta_fw-la a_o most_o wise_a &_o most_o wholesome_a institution_n he_o show_v that_o the_o church_n have_v power_n of_o call_v synod_n but_o where_o there_o be_v a_o christian_a magistrate_n 372._o magistrate_n p._n 372._o this_o power_n be_v regulate_v of_o the_o magistrate_n he_o bring_v etc._n bring_v p._n 373._o etc._n etc._n 10_o argument_n to_o prove_v that_o this_o power_n of_o call_v synod_n be_v not_o in_o a_o metropolitan_a bishop_n he_o say_v touch_v ecclesiastical_a person_n 375._o person_n p._n 375._o the_o power_n of_o convocate_a be_v in_o no_o one_o but_o in_o many_o therefore_o synod_n be_v not_o to_o be_v call_v by_o one_o nor_o by_o the_o authority_n of_o one_o but_o by_o the_o synod_n themselves_o by_o the_o precedent_a assembly_n itself_o as_o be_v usual_a in_o the_o reform_a church_n and_o speak_v of_o act._n 15.6_o he_o say_v do_v not_o this_o example_n bind_v all_o age_n that_o the_o meeting_n in_o synod_n be_v by_o common_a consent_n even_o as_o the_o act_n in_o the_o synod_n be_v by_o common_a consent_n decree_v this_o decree_n of_o call_v together_o be_v a_o act_n of_o jurisdiction_n more_o than_o counsel_n or_o admonition_n only_o the_o four_o controversy_n about_o synod_n be_v concern_v the_o person_n etc._n person_n ibid._n c._n 28._o p._n 379._o etc._n etc._n whereof_o the_o synod_n consist_v whereas_o bellarmine_n distinguish_v betwixt_o the_o great_a &_o lesser_a clerk_n and_o allow_v unto_o hierarchicall_a bishop_n to_o have_v a_o decide_n voice_n and_o to_o the_o inferior_a sort_n to_o have_v only_o a_o consult_v voice_n mr_n parker_n show_v at_o large_a that_o whosoever_o be_v lawful_o depute_a and_o send_v whether_o minister_n elder_n deacon_n or_o any_o of_o the_o people_n have_v a_o decide_n voice_n and_o may_v give_v definitive_a sentence_n in_o synod_n and_o thereby_o he_o acknowledge_v the_o jurisdiction_n exercise_v in_o they_o he_o say_v 387._o say_v p._n 387._o as_o the_o material_a foundation_n of_o synodall_n right_o be_v the_o excellency_n of_o inward_a gift_n not_o the_o dignity_n of_o any_o office_n so_o the_o formal_a foundation_n thereof_o be_v delegation_n from_o the_o church_n from_o which_o whosoever_o they_o be_v that_o have_v receyve_v authority_n and_o therefore_o elder_n also_o they_o have_v power_n of_o decree_a and_o judge_v in_o synod_n and_o many_o other_o testimony_n thereof_o he_o give_v in_o that_o chapter_n a_o five_o controversy_n be_v about_o the_o president_n or_o moderator_n in_o synod_n 29._o synod_n ibid._n c._n 29._o mr_n parker_n labour_v to_o prove_v that_o this_o presidency_n do_v not_o belong_v to_o a_o hierarchicall_a bishop_n or_o archbishop_n but_o maintain_v the_o practice_n and_o order_n of_o the_o reform_a church_n where_o the_o precedent_n of_o the_o synod_n be_v elect_v or_o choose_v by_o the_o synod_n themselves_o 402._o themselves_o p._n 402._o we_o argue_v first_o say_v he_o from_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o church_n for_o in_o matt._n 18._o ecclesiastical_a authority_n be_v give_v primary_o and_o original_o unto_o the_o prime_a church_n so_o that_o no_o rectour_n without_o the_o election_n and_o designation_n thereof_o may_v challenge_v any_o authority_n unto_o himself_o the_o synod_n be_v a_o combine_a or_o
secondary_a church_n which_o receive_v authority_n from_o the_o prime_a church_n &_o that_o under_o the_o like_a condition_n to_o wit_n that_o no_o rectour_n or_o president_n be_v make_v without_o election_n of_o the_o church_n which_o be_v combine_v in_o that_o assembly_n this_o he_o declare_v at_o large_a and_o refute_v the_o contrary_a argument_n now_o this_o election_n of_o a_o president_n be_v a_o act_n of_o ecclesiastical_a authority_n a_o part_n of_o the_o church_n power_n and_o see_v this_o be_v confess_v to_o be_v in_o synod_n it_o appear_v hence_o also_o that_o synod_n be_v not_o only_o for_o counsel_n &_o admonition_n but_o also_o for_o the_o exercise_n of_o jurisdiction_n a_o sixth_o controversy_n about_o synod_n concern_v the_o execution_n of_o the_o synodall_n canon_n 30._o canon_n ibid._n l._n 3_o c._n 30._o mr_n park_n hold_v that_o this_o belong_v not_o unto_o any_o one_o bishop_n or_o archbishop_n but_o unto_o particular_a church_n and_o their_o eldership_n he_o argue_v on_o this_o manner_n 428._o manner_n p._n 428._o the_o execution_n of_o canon_n of_o what_o kind_n soever_o whether_o they_o be_v those_o which_o be_v publish_v of_o christ_n in_o the_o scripture_n or_o whether_o they_o be_v ordain_v in_o synod_n according_a to_o the_o scripture_n be_v a_o part_n of_o ecclesiastical_a jurisdiction_n a_o part_n of_o the_o exercise_n of_o the_o key_n as_o the_o parisian_n call_v it_o but_o the_o key_n and_o ecclesiastical_a jurisdiction_n be_v not_o give_v to_o one_o bishop_n but_o be_v promise_v to_o the_o church_n and_o eldership_n mat._n 16._o and_o give_v unto_o they_o matt._n 18._o therefore_o the_o execution_n of_o canon_n belong_v not_o unto_o one_o bishop_n but_o unto_o the_o church_n which_o import_v many_o now_o if_o the_o execution_n of_o synodall_n canon_n by_o a_o eldership_n or_o particular_a church_n be_v a_o part_n of_o ecclesiastical_a jurisdiction_n and_o of_o the_o key_n then_o much_o more_o be_v the_o make_n of_o these_o canon_n in_o the_o synod_n and_o then_o synod_n have_v not_o only_a liberty_n of_o give_v counsel_n and_o admonition_n but_o power_n of_o jurisdiction_n also_o which_o mr_n daven_n deny_v this_o conclusion_n and_o inference_n be_v afterward_o note_v by_o mr_n parker_n himself_o also_o when_o as_o he_o add_v 432._o add_v p._n 432._o why_o shall_v not_o he_o be_v judge_n in_o the_o execution_n of_o canon_n who_o have_v power_n of_o judge_v in_o the_o sanction_n or_o decree_a of_o the_o canon_n etc._n etc._n and_o again_o if_o it_o be_v not_o lawful_a for_o they_o to_o execute_v the_o canon_n neither_o will_v it_o be_v lawful_a to_o ordain_v they_o on_o the_o other_o side_n if_o they_o have_v authority_n of_o make_v canon_n then_o have_v they_o authority_n to_o execute_v they_o and_o that_o much_o more_o the_o seven_o controversy_n about_o synod_n be_v concern_v the_o condition_n 31._o condition_n ibid._n c._n 31._o thereof_o and_o among_o other_o condition_n mr_n parker_n 452._o parker_n p._n 452._o require_v this_o for_o one_o that_o there_o be_v a_o common_a consent_n or_o a_o community_n of_o suffrage_n and_o he_o complain_v of_o it_o as_o a_o great_a corruption_n when_o there_o be_v in_o synod_n a_o negative_a voice_n allow_v unto_o bishop_n or_o archbishop_n he_o note_v 454._o note_v p._n 454._o that_o to_o be_v not_o without_o reason_n call_v a_o oligarchicall_a synod_n when_o thing_n be_v not_o do_v by_o common_a consent_n but_o one_o make_v frustrate_v the_o consent_n of_o the_o rest_n now_o if_o it_o be_v a_o violation_n of_o the_o synod_n right_a and_o authority_n when_o the_o general_a consent_n of_o the_o great_a part_n be_v make_v frustrate_a by_o the_o dissent_v of_o one_o or_o of_o a_o few_o then_o much_o more_o be_v the_o authority_n thereof_o violate_v when_o as_o notwithstanding_o the_o universal_a and_o entire_a consent_n of_o the_o whole_a synod_n both_o of_o the_o president_n &_o of_o all_o the_o deputy_n of_o all_o the_o church_n there_o assemble_v yet_o by_o receive_v this_o erroneous_a opinion_n of_o my_o opposite_n the_o definitive_a sentence_n of_o they_o all_o be_v make_v frustrate_a and_o disannul_v as_o if_o they_o have_v no_o jurisdiction_n nor_o power_n of_o censure_n but_o be_v only_o to_o counsel_n or_o admonish_v as_o that_o which_o mr_n parker_n have_v write_v particular_o touch_v the_o combination_n of_o church_n in_o class_n and_o synod_n do_v sufficient_o show_v his_o mind_n touch_v this_o controversy_n and_o that_o mr_n dav_n do_v in_o vain_a seek_v to_o shroud_v himself_o under_o his_o shadow_n so_o that_o which_o he_o write_v more_o general_o in_o defence_n of_o the_o discipline_n practise_v in_o the_o reform_a church_n where_o the_o authority_n and_o jurisdiction_n of_o synod_n be_v maintain_v do_v serve_v for_o a_o more_o full_a declaration_n thereof_o he_o labour_v to_o prove_v q_o by_o 10_o argument_n 84._o argument_n pol._n ecc._n lib._n 1._o c._n 29._o p._n 84._o that_o the_o church_n of_o england_n be_v bind_v to_o imitate_v the_o reform_a church_n in_o their_o discipline_n which_o yet_o if_o mr_n dau._n his_o opinion_n be_v true_a they_o ought_v not_o to_o do_v but_o rather_o to_o avoid_v it_o &_o flee_v from_o it_o as_o be_v a_o usurpation_n of_o unlawful_a power_n whereby_o their_o people_n be_v keep_v in_o bondage_n under_o the_o undue_a power_n of_o class_n and_o synod_n in_o special_a mr_n parker_n follow_v mr_n brightman_n in_o his_o exposition_n of_o the_o revelation_n 86._o revelation_n ibid._n p._n 84.85_o 86._o say_v that_o in_o philadelphia_n which_o be_v the_o type_n of_o the_o reform_a church_n nothing_o be_v reprehend_v but_o all_o thing_n be_v commend_v and_o among_o the_o rest_n the_o discipline_n which_o be_v note_v by_o the_o key_n of_o david_n rev._n 3.7_o he_o say_v that_o the_o angel_n of_o the_o reform_a church_n stand_v in_o the_o sun_n rev._n 19.17_o as_o be_v the_o natural_a son_n of_o the_o woman_n clothe_v with_o the_o sun_n rev._n 12.1_o 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regal_a authority_n to_o assemble_v or_o to_o ratify_v they_o they_o think_v that_o by_o divine_a or_o apostolical_a ordinance_n their_o decree_n or_o canon_n ought_v not_o to_o be_v impose_v on_o any_o church_n without_o their_o particular_a and_o free_a consent_n it_o be_v here_o to_o be_v observe_v how_o he_o note_v only_a what_o they_o think_v without_o approbation_n thereof_o he_o declare_v their_o opinion_n but_o do_v not_o acknowledge_v it_o to_o be_v his_o own_o judgement_n neither_o have_v he_o reason_n so_o to_o judge_v for_o in_o the_o primitive_a church_n when_o there_o be_v no_o christian_a magistrate_n there_o be_v then_o a_o lawful_a use_n of_o synod_n and_o that_o by_o divine_a and_o apostolical_a ordinance_n as_o have_v be_v show_v before_o and_o as_o for_o particular_a consent_n if_o any_o church_n walk_v disorderly_a and_o offensive_o there_o be_v no_o reason_n to_o think_v that_o the_o censure_n and_o decree_n of_o synod_n against_o such_o church_n shall_v be_v 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willet_n thom_n bell_n cyprian_n augustine_n gerson_n ferus_fw-la who_o name_n be_v here_o allege_v by_o mr_n dau._n without_o specify_v their_o word_n they_o be_v all_o of_o they_o except_o one_o or_o two_o allege_v by_o mr_n can_n and_o in_o answer_n unto_o he_o 1.2.4.6_o he_o chap._n 7._o sect_n 1.2.4.6_o hereafter_o it_o be_v show_v that_o all_o &_o every_o one_o of_o they_o be_v against_o mr_n davenp_n his_o opinion_n all_o give_v a_o clear_a and_o plain_a testimony_n for_o the_o jurisdiction_n of_o synod_n sect_n vii_o his_o allegation_n of_o d._n voetius_fw-la examine_v io._n dav_n 186._o dav_n apol._n reply_n p._n 242_o 243._o desp_n cause_n pap._n lib._n 2._o sect_n 2._o cap._n 11._o p._n 186._o to_o the_o same_o purpose_n have_v a_o worthy_a and_o learned_a wright_a of_o these_o country_n voetius_fw-la professor_n of_o divinity_n in_o vtrecht_n who_o word_n i_o thus_o translate_v the_o church_n be_v the_o spouse_n of_o christ_n which_o be_v the_o proper_a and_o adequate_a 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warrant_n of_o this_o practice_n of_o church_n answer_v 12._o answer_v t.c._n 2._o rep._n p_o 231._o rom._n 12._o 1._o cor._n 12._o the_o scripture_n i_o prove_v it_o by_o be_v that_o st_n paul_n when_o he_o teach_v that_o all_o the_o faithful_a be_v member_n of_o one_o mystical_a body_n of_o christ_n which_o ought_v to_o have_v a_o mutual_a care_n one_o of_o another_o lay_v the_o foundation_n of_o this_o polity_n for_o as_o in_o the_o body_n of_o one_o particular_a church_n every_o faithful_a man_n compare_v with_o another_o in_o the_o same_o be_v a_o member_n one_o of_o another_o so_o in_o a_o more_o general_a body_n of_o a_o whole_a realm_n every_o particular_a church_n compare_v with_o other_o be_v likewise_o a_o member_n of_o they_o therefore_o as_o nature_n teach_v my_o hand_n to_o help_v the_o disorder_n which_o be_v in_o another_o part_n of_o my_o body_n so_o the_o spirit_n of_o god_n out_o of_o his_o word_n through_o a_o fellow-feeling_n teach_v one_o church_n to_o stretch_v 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and_o reject_v the_o author_n of_o such_o mischief_n and_o more_o plain_o in_o the_o 2_o place_n he_o declare_v agentes_fw-la declare_v epist_n ad_fw-la solit._n vitam_fw-la agentes_fw-la at_o length_n that_o in_o the_o synod_n hold_v at_o sardica_n where_o hosius_n be_v precedent_n and_o whither_o the_o accuser_n of_o athanasius_n be_v cite_v the_o cause_n be_v hear_v the_o synod_n do_v not_o only_o advise_v and_o counsel_n what_o be_v meet_v to_o be_v do_v but_o do_v give_v sentence_n touch_v the_o matter_n of_o controversy_n absolve_v athanasius_n and_o depose_v the_o bishop_n that_o be_v find_v guilty_a such_o as_o stephanus_n menophantus_n acacius_n georgius_n vrsacius_n valens_n theodorus_n narcissus_n as_o for_o the_o three_o allegation_n epist_n count_v nicae_n c._n 9_o ecc._n hist_o it_n seem_v to_o be_v misquote_v i_o find_v no_o such_o title_n in_o all_o the_o work_n of_o athanasius_n instead_o thereof_o therefore_o let_v we_o see_v another_o testimony_n of_o he_o wherein_o 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assist_v they_o epiph._n count_v haer._n 73._o and_o among_o themselves_o excommunicate_a offender_n id._n l._n 1._o haeres_fw-la 30._o tom._n 2._o haer._n 5._o answ._n i._n here_o be_v three_o place_n at_o once_o misalledge_v in_o the_o two_o latter_a viz._n haer._n 30._o and_o haer._n 5._o there_o be_v nothing_o at_o all_o speak_v touch_v this_o point_n in_o the_o first_o of_o they_o viz._n haer._n 73._o he_o do_v but_o catch_v at_o a_o shadow_n and_o pervert_v the_o word_n of_o epiphanius_n and_o falsify_v they_o by_o change_v some_o and_o add_v other_o and_o omit_v other_o that_o may_v give_v light_a unto_o the_o question_n his_o word_n upon_o occasion_n of_o meletius_n his_o confession_n and_o suffering_n for_o the_o truth_n be_v these_o there_o be_v many_o people_n of_o this_o order_n of_o this_o synod_n which_o set_v bishop_n over_o themselves_o do_v make_v a_o marvellous_a confession_n touch_v the_o faith_n &_o do_v not_o reject_v the_o word_n coessential_a yea_o and_o say_v 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to_o be_v call_v in_o that_o island_n wherein_o the_o book_n of_o origen_n be_v condemn_v &_o a_o decree_n make_v that_o none_o shall_v read_v his_o book_n iv_o epiphanius_n do_v not_o only_o approve_v the_o lawful_a authority_n of_o synod_n but_o he_o go_v further_a and_o do_v maintain_v the_o unlawful_a authority_n of_o particular_a person_n over_o divers_a church_n this_o appear_v in_o his_o 75._o his_o epiph._n haer._n 75._o condemn_v of_o aërius_n of_o heresy_n that_o hold_v bishop_n &_o presbyter_n to_o be_v the_o same_o by_o divine_a institution_n who_o d._n whitaker_n 106._o whitaker_n de_fw-fr pont._n rom._n q._n 1._o p._n 104_o 105_o 106._o do_v just_o defend_v against_o bellarmine_n and_o other_o and_o show_v that_o hierome_n and_o other_o ancient_a father_n be_v of_o the_o same_o mind_n with_o aërius_n therein_o and_o say_v that_o we_o be_v not_o to_o regard_v the_o absurd_a man_n that_o do_v so_o often_o object_n aërius_n unto_o we_o he_o say_v epiphanius_n do_v foolish_o 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matter_n by_o way_n of_o advice_n and_o counsel_n only_o but_o by_o their_o decree_n and_o ordinance_n do_v bind_v man_n to_o submit_v unto_o their_o sentence_n and_o judgement_n exclude_v those_o from_o the_o ministry_n &_o profession_n in_o university_n or_o school_n that_o refuse_v to_o consent_v and_o yield_v unto_o their_o resolution_n hereby_o it_o appear_v how_o vain_o mr_n can_n allege_v their_o confession_n &_o pervert_v they_o quite_o contrary_a to_o their_o meaning_n that_o which_o be_v allege_v out_o of_o the_o confession_n of_o augsburg_n come_v not_o near_o the_o question_n betwixt_o we_o for_o what_o though_o it_o be_v there_o affirm_v 14._o affirm_v confess_v august_n art_n 14._o that_o no_o man_n ought_v to_o teach_v public_o in_o the_o church_n or_o to_o administer_v the_o sacrament_n unless_o he_o be_v lawful_o call_v this_o prove_v not_o that_o calling_n to_o be_v unlawful_a which_o be_v direct_v by_o a_o ecclesiastical_a authority_n out_o of_o a_o particular_a 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controversy_n unto_o synod_n this_o manner_n the_o church_n have_v observe_v even_o from_o the_o apostle_n and_o the_o most_o excellent_a emperor_n constantine_n and_o theodosius_n even_o in_o matter_n not_o very_o obscure_a and_o in_o absurd_a opinion_n will_v yet_o ordain_v nothing_o without_o a_o synod_n that_o they_o may_v preserve_v the_o liberty_n of_o the_o church_n in_o the_o judgement_n of_o doctrine_n and_o it_o be_v most_o honourable_a for_o the_o emperor_n to_o imitate_v the_o example_n of_o those_o the_o best_a prince_n etc._n etc._n and_o therefore_o as_o in_o the_o time_n of_o constantine_n and_o theodosius_n particular_a church_n be_v subject_a unto_o another_o superior_a ecclesiastical_a power_n that_o judge_v their_o cause_n and_o censure_v offender_n so_o they_o of_o the_o ausburg_n confession_n desire_v the_o like_a of_o charles_n the_o five_o the_o public_a order_n set_v forth_o in_o these_o low_a country_n be_v in_o the_o next_o place_n allege_v against_o i_o 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word_n that_o which_o i_o say_v be_v this_o 66._o this_o answ_n to_o w.b._n p._n 66._o when_o the_o business_n be_v so_o weighty_a that_o by_o former_a general_a consent_n of_o church_n testify_v by_o their_o deputy_n meet_v together_o in_o their_o synod_n it_o have_v be_v agree_v that_o the_o same_o shall_v not_o be_v proceed_v in_o without_o advise_v of_o the_o classis_fw-la such_o as_o be_v the_o election_n of_o minister_n the_o excommunication_n of_o offender_n and_o the_o like_a that_o in_o such_o case_n ordinary_o matter_n be_v bring_v unto_o the_o classis_fw-la etc._n etc._n now_o this_o voluntary_a agreement_n not_o to_o proceed_v without_o advice_n of_o the_o classis_fw-la before_o matter_n of_o so_o great_a weight_n be_v determine_v be_v not_o to_o hinder_v particular_a congregation_n from_o the_o practice_n of_o all_o god_n ordinance_n among_o they_o but_o only_o to_o prevent_v and_o restrain_v abuse_n in_o the_o manner_n of_o do_v and_o to_o direct_v they_o for_o the_o 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advice_n and_o judgement_n of_o a_o classical_a assembly_n and_o beside_o the_o decree_n of_o these_o nationall_n synod_n the_o like_a agreement_n and_o resolution_n have_v be_v make_v in_o sundry_a 69._o sundry_a provinc_fw-la syn._n tot_o dordr_n an._n 1574._o art_n 12._o prov._n syn._n tot_o middelb_n an._n 1591._o art_n 3_o 4_o 9_o 58_o 68_o 69._o provincial_n synod_n so_o that_o from_o time_n to_o time_n after_o ripe_a deliberation_n &_o long_a experience_n these_o act_n of_o their_o synod_n have_v still_o be_v renew_v and_o confirm_v from_o the_o begin_n of_o their_o reformation_n even_o unto_o this_o day_n iii_o beside_o these_o general_a act_n and_o agreement_n of_o several_a synod_n we_o have_v their_o practice_n also_o for_o confirmation_n hereof_o to_o declare_v that_o the_o cause_n of_o particular_a church_n be_v judge_v by_o another_o ecclesiastical_a authority_n out_o of_o themselves_o thus_o it_o be_v witness_v 56.57_o witness_v trigland_n van_fw-mi de_fw-fr mother_n p._n 56.57_o that_o caspar_n coolhaes_n be_v excommunicate_v by_o the_o provincial_n synod_n of_o holland_n hold_v at_o haerlem_n anno_fw-la 1582._o that_o the_o cause_n of_o hermannus_n herbert_n be_v judge_v and_o he_o suspend_v from_o his_o ministry_n by_o a_o particular_a synod_n of_o south-holland_n hold_v in_o the_o hague_n anno_fw-la 1591._o novemb_n 6._o that_o cornelius_n wiggertsz_n be_v also_o judge_v and_o excommunicate_v by_o a_o particular_a synod_n of_o north-holland_n by_o reason_n of_o the_o error_n hold_v by_o he_o that_o 22._o that_o act._n syn._n nat._n dordr_n an._n 1618._o sesse_n 22._o nicolaus_n grevinchovius_n minister_n at_o rotterdam_n be_v remove_v from_o his_o ministry_n by_o the_o sentence_n of_o the_o south-holland_n synod_n hold_v at_o delft_n that_o pref_o that_o ib._n pref_o adolphus_n venator_n minister_n at_o alcmaer_n that_o joannes_n valesius_fw-la joannes_n rodingenus_n and_o isaacus_n welsingius_fw-la pastor_n of_o the_o church_n at_o horn_n be_v 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power_n to_o depose_v the_o office-bearer_n of_o that_o province_n for_o good_a and_o just_a cause_n deserve_v deprivation_n and_o general_o their_o assembly_n have_v the_o whole_a power_n of_o the_o particular_a eldership_n whereof_o they_o be_v collect_v beside_o these_o canon_n and_o rule_n of_o their_o discipline_n there_o be_v also_o divers_a act_n of_o their_o general_n assembly_n prefix_v before_o the_o foresay_a first_o and_o second_o book_n of_o their_o discipline_n which_o by_o many_o instance_n do_v show_v how_o that_o power_n of_o synod_n be_v exercise_v and_o put_v in_o practice_n in_o the_o church_n of_o scotland_n for_o example_n we_o read_v 1570._o read_v p._n 14._o edinb_n jul._n 5._o 1570._o that_o there_o be_v a_o excommunication_n direct_v against_o patrick_n call_v b_o of_o murray_n to_o be_v execute_v by_o m._n robert_n pont_n commissioner_n their_o with_o the_o assistance_n of_o the_o minister_n of_o edinburgh_n we_o find_v there_o in_o another_o assembly_n 1573._o assembly_n p._n 15._o edinb_n aug._n 6._o 1573._o that_o alexander_n gordoun_n b._n of_o galloway_n be_v accuse_v of_o divers_a offence_n it_o be_v conclude_v that_o he_o shall_v make_v public_a repentance_n in_o sackcloth_n three_o several_a sunday_n first_o in_o the_o kirk_n of_o edinburgh_n second_o in_o halyrudhous_n three_o in_o the_o queen_n college_n under_o the_o pain_n of_o excommunication_n we_o find_v in_o another_o assembly_n 1573._o assembly_n p._n 16._o edinb_n mar._n 6._o 1573._o that_o the_o b._n of_o dunkell_n be_v ordain_v to_o confess_v his_o fault_n public_o in_o the_o kirk_n of_o dunkell_n for_o not_o execute_v the_o sentence_n of_o the_o kirk_n against_o the_o earl_n of_o athol_n for_o the_o confirmation_n of_o this_o synodall_n authority_n there_o be_v add_v in_o the_o same_o place_n a_o act_n of_o parliament_n 1592._o parliament_n p._n 19_o 20_o etc._n etc._n the_o 12_o parl._n at_o edinb_n jun._n 5._o 1592._o prefix_v also_o before_o the_o say_a book_n of_o their_o discipline_n have_v this_o title_n ratification_n of_o the_o liberty_n of_o the_o true_a kirk_n of_o general_a and_o synodall_n assembly_n of_o presbytery_n of_o discipline_n etc._n etc._n the_o confession_n of_o faith_n make_v by_o the_o church_n of_o scotland_n both_o for_o the_o doctrine_n and_o for_o the_o discipline_n thereof_o be_v yet_o further_o confirm_v unto_o we_o both_o by_o general_a subscription_n and_o by_o a_o most_o solemn_a oath_n the_o formal_a word_n of_o that_o subscription_n and_o oath_n be_v thus_o record_v unto_o we_o 160._o we_o syntag._n confess_v p._n 158_o 160._o we_o believe_v with_o our_o heart_n confess_v with_o our_o mouth_n subscribe_v with_o our_o hand_n etc._n etc._n promise_v and_o swear_v by_o that_o great_a name_n of_o the_o lord_n our_o god_n that_o we_o will_v continue_v in_o the_o doctrine_n &_o discipline_n of_o this_o church_n and_o that_o we_o will_v defend_v the_o same_o according_a to_o our_o call_n and_o power_n all_o the_o day_n of_o our_o life_n under_o pain_n of_o all_o the_o curse_n contain_v in_o the_o law_n &_o danger_n of_o body_n and_o soul_n in_o the_o day_n of_o that_o dreadful_a judgement_n of_o god_n hereunto_o be_v annex_v in_o the_o same_o place_n the_o mandate_n of_o the_o king_n majesty_n whereby_o he_o enjoin_v all_o commissioner_n and_o minister_n of_o the_o word_n throughout_o his_o kingdom_n that_o they_o require_v this_o confession_n of_o all_o their_o parishioner_n etc._n etc._n and_o so_o far_o as_o i_o can_v learn_v even_o unto_o this_o day_n there_o be_v still_o observe_v this_o substantial_a and_o main_a point_n of_o discipline_n namely_o a_o power_n in_o synodall_n assembly_n to_o judge_v the_o controversy_n that_o do_v arise_v in_o particular_a congregation_n here_o mr_n can_v instead_o of_o a_o jury_n of_o 24_o man_n to_o condemn_v my_o position_n for_o a_o error_n and_o untrueth_n as_o he_o 83._o he_o ch._n pl._n p._n 83._o speak_v may_v see_v a_o jury_n of_o more_o than_o thrice_o 24_o congregation_n in_o scotland_n maintain_v my_o position_n and_o condemn_v his_o error_n by_o their_o example_n the_o reform_a church_n in_o savoy_n as_o that_o of_o geneva_n etc._n geneva_n kerckel_n ordon_n der_fw-mi gemeente_fw-it van_fw-mi geneven_a p._n 9_o 10_o etc._n etc._n and_o the_o church_n in_o the_o village_n thereabouts_o stand_v under_o the_o jurisdiction_n of_o the_o magistrate_n in_o geneva_n be_v combine_v together_o for_o their_o mutual_a guidance_n and_o the_o minister_n of_o those_o church_n meet_v weekly_o together_o be_v subject_n to_o the_o censure_n of_o such_o ecclesiastical_a assembly_n and_o the_o affair_n of_o those_o church_n judge_v therein_o the_o knowledge_n of_o this_o be_v so_o common_a a_o thing_n that_o in_o appearance_n hereupon_o grow_v the_o reproach_n report_v by_o mr_n can_n himself_o that_o 94._o that_o ch._n pl._n p._n 94._o at_o geneva_n subject_v of_o church_n to_o this_o order_n first_o begin_v the_o evangelicall_n church_n in_o the_o great_a
that_o if_o his_o order_n of_o synod_n may_v be_v refuse_v by_o such_o as_o deserve_v ecclesiastical_a censure_n that_o then_o a_o door_n shall_v be_v open_v to_o all_o heresy_n &_o sect_n &_o all_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o church_n whereunto_o christ_n send_v we_o shall_v be_v subvert_v etc._n etc._n the_o divine_n of_o embden_n 1â—7_n embden_n ibid._n p._n 1â—7_n accord_n with_o the_o rest_n and_o beside_o other_o reason_n for_o confirmation_n of_o synodall_n authority_n in_o the_o judgement_n of_o ecclesiastical_a cause_n they_o allege_v that_o very_a place_n of_o scripture_n act._n 20.28_o which_o my_o opposite_n pervert_v to_o a_o contrary_a end_n against_o i_o neither_o have_v they_o only_o in_o general_n show_v what_o the_o authority_n of_o synod_n be_v and_o also_o what_o this_o synod_n may_v do_v but_o the_o synod_n go_v further_a and_o proceed_v unto_o the_o exercise_n of_o this_o power_n and_o pronounce_v sentence_n against_o those_o that_o persist_v in_o their_o error_n in_o the_o copy_n of_o that_o sentence_n 280._o sentence_n act._n syn._n nat._n dordr_n sess_n 138._o p._n 280._o there_o be_v divers_a act_n of_o their_o power_n to_o be_v observe_v in_o the_o several_a expression_n &_o form_n of_o speech_n use_v therein_o as_o for_o example_n this_o synod_n of_o dort_n do_v serious_o instant_o and_o according_a to_o the_o authority_n which_o it_o have_v by_o the_o word_n of_o god_n over_o all_o the_o member_n of_o their_o church_n in_o the_o name_n of_o christ_n require_v exhort_v admonish_v &_o enjoin_v all_o &_o every_o one_o of_o the_o pastor_n in_o the_o church_n of_o the_o unite_a province_n doctor_n rectour_n master_n in_o the_o university_n &_o school_n etc._n etc._n the_o synod_n after_o invocation_n of_o the_o holy_a name_n of_o god_n be_v in_o conscience_n well_o assure_v of_o their_o authority_n from_o the_o word_n of_o god_n follow_v the_o step_n of_o ancient_n &_o late_a synod_n etc._n etc._n 281._o etc._n p._n 281._o do_v interdict_v the_o person_n cite_v unto_o this_o synod_n from_o all_o ecclesiastical_a charge_n and_o depose_v they_o from_o their_o office_n and_o also_o judge_v they_o unworthy_a of_o academical_a function_n until_o by_o earnest_a repentance_n etc._n etc._n for_o the_o rest_n who_o cognition_n be_v not_o come_v to_o this_o nationall_n synod_n it_o commit_v unto_o provincial_n synod_n class_n &_o presbytery_n according_a to_o the_o order_n receive_v that_o with_o all_o care_n they_o procure_v etc._n etc._n that_o they_o diligent_o take_v heed_n unto_o themselves_o that_o they_o admit_v not_o any_o man_n to_o the_o holy_a ministry_n which_o refuse_v to_o subscribe_v unto_o the_o doctrine_n declare_v in_o these_o synodical_a constitution_n and_o to_o teach_v the_o same_o that_o they_o also_o retain_v no_o man_n by_o who_o manifest_a dissension_n etc._n etc._n this_o judgement_n &_o sentence_n of_o the_o synod_n be_v afterward_o in_o most_o full_a &_o ample_a manner_n 282._o manner_n ibid._n p._n 282._o approve_v &_o confirm_v by_o the_o illustrious_a lord_n the_o state_n general_n of_o the_o unite_a province_n acknowledge_v also_o the_o business_n of_o this_o synod_n to_o be_v agreat_a &_o holy_a work_n such_o as_o heretofore_o the_o reform_a church_n never_o see_v etc._n etc._n beside_o this_o sentence_n pronounce_v against_o those_o twelve_o or_o thirteen_o of_o the_o remonstrant_n that_o by_o authority_n of_o the_o synod_n be_v 17._o be_v ibid._n p._n 16_o 17._o cite_v to_o appear_v before_o they_o there_o be_v also_o another_o special_a sentence_n 205._o sentence_n p._n 204_o 205._o of_o suspension_n from_o their_o function_n conclude_v &_o pronounce_v against_o everhardus_fw-la vosculius_n and_o johannes_n schotlerius_n minister_n at_o campen_n because_o of_o their_o contumacy_n in_o not_o appear_v before_o the_o synod_n be_v lawful_o cite_v thereunto_o moreover_o it_o be_v memorable_a that_o the_o member_n of_o this_o synod_n the_o deputy_n of_o several_a church_n do_v all_o &_o every_o one_o of_o they_o take_v a_o most_o solemn_a oath_n in_o testimony_n of_o the_o good_a conscience_n which_o they_o have_v in_o the_o exercise_n of_o this_o authority_n the_o form_n of_o the_o oath_n be_v 61._o be_v act._n syn._n nat._n dordr_n sess_n 23._o p._n 61._o as_o follow_v i_o do_v promise_n before_o god_n who_o i_o believe_v and_o reverence_v as_o the_o present_a searcher_n of_o the_o reins_n and_o heart_n that_o in_o this_o whole_a synodall_n action_n wherein_o shall_v be_v undertake_v a_o examination_n judgement_n &_o decision_n both_o touch_v the_o five_o know_a article_n and_o the_o difficulty_n thence_o arise_v and_o also_o touch_v all_o other_o matter_n of_o doctrine_n i_o will_v not_o take_v any_o humane_a writing_n but_o only_o the_o word_n of_o god_n for_o the_o certain_a &_o undoubted_a rule_n of_o faith_n and_o that_o in_o this_o whole_a cause_n i_o shall_v propound_v nothing_o to_o myself_o but_o the_o glory_n of_o god_n the_o peace_n of_o his_o church_n and_o in_o special_a the_o conservation_n of_o the_o purity_n of_o doctrine_n so_o let_v my_o saviour_n jesus_n christ_n be_v merciful_a unto_o i_o who_o i_o most_o earnest_o beseech_v that_o he_o will_v continual_o assist_v i_o in_o this_o purpose_n with_o the_o grace_n of_o his_o spirit_n this_o oath_n be_v first_o take_v by_o the_o precedent_n of_o the_o synod_n all_o the_o other_o professor_n pastor_n &_o elder_n of_o the_o netherlands_o depute_v unto_o the_o synod_n and_o then_o all_o the_o divine_n of_o other_o nation_n stand_v up_o in_o order_n do_v with_o a_o loud_a voice_n every_o one_o of_o they_o declare_v that_o they_o do_v holy_o promise_v and_o swear_v before_o god_n the_o same_o thing_n and_o testify_v that_o they_o come_v with_o such_o mind_n unto_o the_o synod_n have_v hitherto_o sit_v down_o therein_o and_o will_v hereafter_o by_o the_o grace_n of_o god_n continue_v have_v now_o such_o a_o cloud_n of_o witness_n consent_v with_o i_o i_o have_v reason_n in_o this_o place_n again_o to_o put_v mr_n can_n in_o mind_n of_o his_o vain_a boast_v 83._o boast_v ch._n pl._n p._n 83._o touch_v a_o jury_n of_o more_o than_o 24._o man_n condemn_v i_o of_o error_n here_o may_v he_o see_v a_o jury_n of_o more_o than_o thrice_o 24_o swear_a man_n and_o of_o the_o most_o excellent_a servant_n of_o god_n in_o so_o many_o reform_a church_n and_o university_n the_o light_n of_o christendom_n the_o flower_n of_o the_o church_n and_o the_o select_a crown_n of_o learned_a man_n as_o they_o of_o geneva_n do_v 12._o do_v act._n syn._n nat._n dordr_n sess_n 3._o p._n 12._o stile_n they_o all_o testify_a both_o by_o word_n and_o practice_n against_o he_o and_o against_o the_o opinion_n of_o mr_n dau._n touch_v the_o jurisdiction_n of_o synod_n a_o supplement_n annex_v by_o the_o publisher_n for_o answer_v unto_o that_o which_o follow_v in_o mr_n cannes_n book_n thus_o far_o good_a reader_n the_o author_n have_v travel_v through_o those_o tedious_a way_n which_o mr_n c._n though_o with_o less_o trouble_n yet_o with_o more_o prejudice_n to_o his_o own_o cause_n have_v first_o open_v unto_o he_o the_o sum_n of_o all_o be_v that_o wade_v through_o those_o stream_n of_o argument_n and_o reason_n which_o mr_n c._n have_v let_v out_o upon_o he_o he_o have_v find_v such_o as_o be_v of_o any_o depth_n to_o run_v another_o way_n &_o the_o other_o too_o shallow_a to_o hinder_v the_o passage_n of_o truth_n in_o this_o controversy_n and_o march_v through_o those_o several_a rank_n &_o file_n of_o learned_a author_n which_o mr_n c._n have_v muster_v &_o bring_v into_o the_o field_n for_o his_o defence_n and_o assistance_n in_o this_o conflict_n he_o have_v find_v they_o all_o except_v those_o that_o be_v to_o be_v except_v to_o be_v friend_n instead_o of_o enemy_n testify_v plain_o in_o their_o own_o word_n &_o in_o the_o word_n of_o sundry_a other_o with_o they_o that_o against_o their_o will_n they_o be_v force_v to_o appear_v under_o his_o banner_n and_o therefore_o in_o the_o same_o order_n that_o he_o marshal_v they_o against_o the_o authority_n of_o synod_n they_o now_o stand_v in_o array_n against_o the_o independency_n of_o church_n there_o remain_v yet_o one_o part_n of_o mr_n can._n opposition_n in_o this_o cause_n to_o be_v encounter_v wherein_o he_o pretend_v to_o disappoint_v and_o conquer_v such_o force_n as_o may_v seem_v to_o be_v use_v in_o defence_n of_o that_o classical_a and_o synodall_n government_n which_o he_o have_v hitherto_o oppugn_v to_o this_o end_n he_o 92._o he_o chur._n plea_n p._n 92._o undertake_v to_o answer_v certain_a reason_n or_o objection_n pick_v out_o of_o divers_a passage_n in_o the_o author_n &c_n author_n answ_n to_o w.b._n &c_n &c_n first_o book_n suppose_v by_o this_o mean_n to_o have_v full_o acquit_v himself_o in_o this_o dispute_n now_o though_o there_o be_v nothing_o in_o these_o his_o answer_n for_o
from_o their_o minister_n but_o concern_v particular_a congregation_n and_o their_o subjection_n to_o ecclesiastical_a authority_n out_o of_o themselves_o though_o mr_n c._n and_o some_o other_o that_o now_o strive_v for_o the_o independency_n church_n do_v also_o affect_v a_o popular_a way_n of_o government_n in_o the_o church_n oppose_v not_o only_o the_o power_n of_o classical_a presbytery_n but_o also_o of_o particular_a eldership_n yet_o popularity_n do_v not_o necessary_o follow_v upon_o independency_n neither_o have_v they_o always_o both_o the_o same_o patron_n mr_n jacob_n though_o he_o plead_v for_o a_o single_a uncompounded_a policy_n in_o opposition_n to_o synodall_n authority_n yet_o he_o utter_o dislike_v those_o popular_a circumstance_n hold_v by_o the_o separation_n as_o have_v be_v note_v 176._o note_v pag._n 176._o before_o again_o the_o anabaptist_n though_o they_o maintain_v and_o practice_v those_o popular_a way_n of_o judge_a cause_n among_o they_o and_o 535._o 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he_o carry_v from_o the_o consistory_n to_o the_o classis_fw-la be_v of_o the_o same_o nature_n with_o those_o cause_n between_o blood_n &_o blood_n between_o law_n &_o commandment_n statute_n &_o judgement_n which_o be_v defer_v to_o the_o levite_n the_o priest_n etc._n etc._n answ._n i._o it_o be_v here_o also_o to_o be_v note_v how_o instead_o of_o disprove_v that_o which_o i_o say_v and_o instead_o of_o show_v any_o dissimilitude_n of_o the_o question_n bring_v unto_o the_o classis_fw-la from_o those_o bring_v unto_o the_o judicatories_n deut._n 17.2_o chron._n 19_o he_o leave_v his_o accusation_n without_o proof_n ii_o as_o for_o the_o proof_n he_o require_v it_o be_v most_o plain_a and_o evident_a from_o the_o place_n allege_v for_o in_o they_o it_o be_v manifest_a that_o about_o whatsoever_o cause_n there_o be_v any_o strife_n or_o contention_n in_o israel_n it_o may_v be_v bring_v unto_o the_o judicatories_n there_o mention_v all_o ecclesiastical_a affair_n all_o matter_n of_o the_o lord_n be_v to_o be_v bring_v unto_o the_o ecclesiastical_a senate_n over_o which_o amariah_n be_v precedent_n all_o civil_a affair_n all_o matter_n of_o the_o king_n be_v to_o be_v bring_v unto_o the_o civil_a judgement_n over_o which_o zebadiah_n be_v precedent_n 2._o chron._n 19.11_o and_o what_o controversy_n can_v there_o be_v in_o any_o church_n or_o estate_n that_o may_v not_o be_v reduce_v to_o one_o of_o these_o junius_n in_o his_o exposition_n of_o these_o place_n 11._o place_n anal._n expl._n &_o annot_n on_o deut._n 17.8_o &_o 2._o chron._n 19.8_o 11._o plain_o distinguish_v these_o cause_n &_o question_n on_o this_o manner_n again_o whereas_o 2._o chron._n 19_o vers_fw-la 10._o there_o be_v express_v and_o general_a mention_n of_o any_o cause_n whatsoever_o about_o which_o there_o may_v be_v controversy_n between_o law_n &_o commandment_n statute_n &_o judgement_n i_o will_v demand_v of_o mr_n dau._n what_o cause_n can_v be_v except_v or_o exempt_v from_o these_o 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the_o consideration_n of_o they_o that_o be_v able_a to_o judge_v chap._n iii_o the_o second_o argument_n take_v from_o the_o word_n of_o christ_n matth._n 18_o 15-20_a the_o second_o argument_n be_v take_v from_o that_o rule_n of_o discipline_n deliver_v by_o christ_n unto_o his_o disciple_n for_o the_o government_n of_o his_o church_n in_o the_o new_a testament_n mat._n 18.15_o 16_o 17_o 18_o 19_o 20._o from_o this_o rule_n we_o may_v reason_v divers_a way_n and_o chief_o thus_o if_o this_o rule_n of_o christ_n be_v the_o same_o that_o be_v prescribe_v unto_o israel_n of_o old_a and_o be_v translate_v from_o the_o jew_n synagogue_n unto_o the_o christian_a church_n then_o be_v not_o these_o church_n independent_a then_o be_v they_o not_o single_a uncompounded_a policy_n then_o be_v not_o all_o ecclesiastical_a jurisdiction_n limit_v within_o the_o compass_n of_o particular_a congregation_n then_o can_v appeal_n unto_o superior_a judicatories_n be_v just_o deny_v but_o the_o first_o 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the_o government_n of_o a_o particular_a church_n he_o extend_v also_o unto_o the_o 98._o the_o ibid._n p._n 98._o synod_n for_o the_o govern_n of_o more_o church_n of_o which_o there_o shall_v be_v more_o occasion_n to_o speak_v again_o hereafter_o mr_n fenner_n in_o his_o counterpoison_v touch_v the_o certain_a form_n of_o ecclesiastical_a government_n declare_v himself_o to_o be_v of_o the_o same_o mind_n viz._n that_o the_o rule_n of_o christ_n mat._n 18._o be_v no_o new_a rule_n when_o as_o he_o write_v 479._o write_v part_v of_o a_o register_n p._n 479._o our_o saviour_n christ_n in_o set_v down_o the_o ecclesiastical_a presbytery_n speak_v according_a to_o the_o jew_n for_o otherwise_o the_o apostle_n can_v not_o have_v understand_v he_o when_o he_o say_v tell_v the_o congregation_n or_o
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etc._n l._n 7._o c._n 26_o 28._o etc._n etc._n whereby_o it_o appear_v that_o he_o allow_v unto_o synod_n not_o only_a counsel_n or_o admonition_n but_o a_o power_n of_o exercise_v ecclesiastical_a jurisdiction_n &_o censure_n those_o counsel_n mention_v and_o point_a at_o by_o he_o for_o instance_n of_o this_o chiefty_a of_o judgement_n be_v such_o as_o do_v not_o only_o admonish_v but_o also_o determine_v and_o judge_v of_o cause_n the_o synod_n of_o etc._n of_o barthol_n carranza_n summa_fw-la council_n p._n â—3_n etc._n etc._n ancyra_n in_o galatia_n make_v most_o severe_a ecclesiastical_a law_n for_o the_o exclude_v of_o such_o as_o do_v fall_v in_o time_n of_o persecution_n the_o synod_n of_o 463_o of_o magdeb._n cent._n 4._o c._n 3._o col_fw-fr 111._o etc._n etc._n 6._o col_fw-fr 463_o gangris_n in_o paphlagonia_n exercise_v ecclesiastical_a jurisdiction_n in_o depose_v eustathius_n bishop_n of_o sebastia_n for_o his_o error_n and_o the_o like_a may_v be_v note_v for_o the_o 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that_o 79._o that_o ibid._n qu._n 3._o c._n 1._o p._n 79._o the_o papist_n will_v have_v only_o the_o bishop_n or_o great_a prelate_n to_o be_v allow_v for_o judge_n and_o the_o presbyter_n or_o inferior_a clergy_n to_o be_v only_a inquisitor_n disputer_n or_o consulter_n to_o give_v counsel_n but_o not_o to_o have_v suffrage_n in_o give_v definitive_a sentence_n this_o be_v the_o opinion_n of_o the_o 15._o the_o bellar._n tom._n 2._o contr._n 1._o de_fw-fr council_n l._n 1._o c._n 15._o romish_a church_n now_o d._n whit._n in_o the_o refutation_n of_o the_o papist_n do_v as_o well_o refute_v the_o brownist_n and_o other_o opposite_n while_o he_o prove_v 3._o prove_v de_fw-fr council_n qu._n 3._o c._n 3._o that_o all_o who_o have_v a_o lawful_a deputation_n and_o calling_n be_v to_o be_v allow_v for_o judge_n and_o not_o for_o counsellor_n only_o and_o that_o their_o suffrage_n be_v not_o only_o for_o consultation_n but_o for_o decision_n as_o be_v hereafter_o show_v more_o at_o large_a observe_v only_o at_o this_o time_n that_o the_o first_o argument_n in_o that_o dispute_n be_v take_v from_o this_o very_a place_n act._n 15._o g._n bucerus_n plead_v from_o this_o same_o ground_n of_o scripture_n and_o write_v 65._o write_v dissert_n de_fw-fr gub._n ecc._n p._n 65._o that_o not_o only_o several_a particular_a church_n have_v their_o proper_a distinct_a presbytery_n but_o that_o the_o history_n of_o the_o apostle_n witness_v that_o when_o great_a controversy_n do_v arise_v which_o can_v not_o be_v end_v in_o lesser_a college_n then_o more_o church_n under_o the_o new_a testament_n do_v run_v unto_o a_o general_n synod_n act._n 15._o and_o what_o power_n they_o be_v wont_a to_o exercise_v therein_o he_o show_v by_o a_o distinction_n of_o person_n come_v to_o the_o synod_n as_o d._n whit._n refute_v the_o popish_a distinction_n of_o great_a and_o lesser_a clergy_n show_v that_o there_o be_v a_o right_a and_o power_n of_o suffrage_n &_o judgement_n in_o the_o synod_n so_o bucerus_n etc._n bucerus_n ibid._n p._n 107._o 108._o etc._n etc._n confirm_v the_o distinction_n of_o junius_n viz._n that_o some_o person_n come_v to_o the_o synod_n as_o delegate_n send_v from_o the_o church_n which_o therefore_o do_v give_v definitive_a sentence_n of_o matter_n propound_v that_o other_o come_v without_o such_o deputation_n and_o commission_n may_v give_v their_o advice_n and_o counsel_v but_o without_o suffrage_n do_v hereby_o acknowledge_v a_o power_n of_o jurisdiction_n in_o the_o synod_n by_o those_o that_o be_v peculiar_o call_v to_o be_v judge_n therein_o zepperus_n etc._n zepperus_n polit._n eccl._n l._n 3._o c._n 8._o de_fw-fr syn._n p._n 713._o 714._o 715._o etc._n etc._n allege_v act._n 15._o for_o a_o pattern_n of_o synod_n declare_v that_o after_o the_o apostle_n the_o primitive_a church_n in_o the_o new_a testament_n be_v most_o studious_a of_o this_o consociation_n or_o combination_n in_o synod_n do_v not_o only_o communicate_v by_o letter_n but_o meet_v together_o in_o nationall_n or_o general_n counsel_n do_v hear_v the_o cause_n of_o heretic_n &_o other_o that_o appear_v before_o they_o &_o so_o convince_v condemn_a and_o excommunicate_v they_o &_o send_v their_o decree_n unto_o all_o church_n with_o the_o name_n &_o heresy_n of_o those_o that_o be_v excommunicate_a etc._n etc._n thus_o do_v he_o acknowledge_v the_o right_n of_o synod_n not_o only_o for_o counsel_n &_o admonition_n but_o also_o for_o jurisdiction_n in_o censure_v piscator_fw-la 361-364_a piscator_fw-la thes_n theolog._n vol._n 1._o loc._n 23._o p._n 361-364_a writing_n of_o counsel_n and_o synod_n and_o of_o the_o seven_o question_n concern_v they_o do_v seven_o time_n allege_v this_o place_n act._n 15._o for_o a_o ground_n of_o direction_n in_o each_o of_o they_o and_o for_o the_o authority_n of_o synod_n he_o plain_o express_v his_o meaning_n when_o speak_v of_o the_o government_n of_o the_o church_n in_o general_a he_o say_v 63._o say_v thes_n 62_o 63._o it_o consist_v chief_o in_o ecclesiastical_a jurisdiction_n and_o again_o distinguish_v this_o jurisdiction_n into_o two_o part_n he_o say_v that_o the_o one_o part_n consist_v in_o the_o power_n of_o make_v law_n &_o potissimum_fw-la spectatur_fw-la in_o conciliis_fw-la that_o be_v it_o be_v chief_o see_v in_o synod_n bucanus_n 27._o bucanus_n loc._n con_n loc._n 43._o qu._n 21_o 22_o 25_o 27._o write_v much_o to_o the_o same_o purpose_n and_o asscribe_v unto_o synod_n authority_n of_o make_v law_n of_o decide_v controversy_n and_o this_o from_o the_o example_n of_o that_o synod_n act._n 15._o often_o mention_v by_o he_o mr_n fenner_n 278-281_a fenner_n s._n theol._n l._n 7._o c._n 7._o p._n 278-281_a brief_o and_o methodical_o describe_v the_o nature_n of_o synod_n the_o kind_n the_o use_n &_o authority_n of_o they_o do_v derive_v their_o authority_n from_o this_o ground_n act._n 15._o which_o even_o in_o that_o short_a description_n be_v more_o than_o ten_o time_n allege_v by_o he_o many_o other_o such_o testimony_n may_v be_v produce_v to_o show_v the_o consent_n of_o judicious_a and_o learned_a divine_n in_o this_o point_n of_o which_o somewhat_o more_o be_v to_o be_v say_v when_o i_o come_v to_o give_v answer_n touch_v that_o multitude_n of_o author_n which_o mr_n can_v allege_v against_o i_o let_v we_o now_o hear_v what_o my_o opposite_n say_v concern_v this_o example_n mr_n dau._n his_o exception_n touch_v act._n 15._o answer_v i._o dav_n 255._o dav_n apol_n reply_n p._n 254._o 255._o this_o text_n act._n 15._o be_v allege_v by_o bellarmine_n to_o prove_v the_o bind_a force_n of_o the_o decree_n of_o council_n and_o by_o the_o answerer_n to_o show_v the_o authority_n of_o the_o classis_fw-la whereunto_o junius_n give_v 2_o answer_n also_o 1._o non_fw-la sequitur_fw-la ex_fw-la particulari_fw-la si_fw-la custodienda_fw-la fuerint_fw-la decreta_fw-la concilii_fw-la apostolici_fw-la ergo_fw-la &_o omnium_fw-la seruari_fw-la oportere_fw-la 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it_o follow_v hence_o from_o the_o consideration_n of_o that_o which_o be_v here_o confess_v to_o be_v do_v by_o each_o kind_n of_o person_n here_o mention_v that_o the_o use_n of_o synod_n be_v not_o only_o for_o counsel_n or_o admonition_n but_o also_o to_o give_v sentence_n and_o to_o make_v decree_n which_o be_v act_n of_o authority_n and_o power_n the_o error_n of_o bellarmine_n and_o the_o papist_n be_v 16._o be_v de_fw-fr con._n cil_n l._n 1._o c._n 15._o &_o 16._o that_o only_a majores_fw-la praelati_fw-la the_o great_a sort_n of_o prelate_n such_o as_o be_v their_o bishop_n and_o archbishop_n and_o by_o privilege_n or_o custom_n cardinal_n abbot_n and_o general_n of_o order_n have_v jus_o suffragii_fw-la decisivi_fw-la that_o be_v authority_n to_o give_v definitive_a sentence_n that_o presbyter_n elder_n and_o other_o doctor_n or_o learned_a man_n in_o the_o synod_n have_v only_o suffragium_fw-la consultivum_fw-la a_o voice_n in_o consultation_n liberty_n to_o give_v counsel_n to_o deliberate_v and_o dispute_v but_o not_o to_o give_v definitive_a sentence_n in_o the_o decide_n of_o any_o matter_n thus_o they_o take_v away_o the_o right_n and_o power_n of_o judge_v from_o one_o half_a or_o more_o of_o those_o person_n that_o be_v to_o appear_v in_o synod_n the_o error_n of_o the_o brownist_n and_o other_o our_o opposite_n be_v that_o all_o the_o person_n in_o the_o synod_n have_v only_o suffragium_fw-la consultivum_fw-la only_a power_n to_o deliberate_v to_o advise_v and_o give_v counsel_n that_o all_o jurisdiction_n be_v limit_v unto_o a_o particular_a church_n and_o so_o they_o destroy_v whole_o the_o authority_n of_o synod_n which_o the_o papist_n do_v in_o part_n the_o papist_n deprive_v one_o half_a of_o the_o person_n of_o their_o power_n and_o these_o deprive_v all_o the_o person_n of_o their_o power_n but_o now_o in_o this_o case_n mr_n can_n by_o his_o confession_n refute_v both_o these_o error_n grant_v jurisdiction_n a_o power_n of_o give_v sentence_n and_o make_v decree_n unto_o the_o people_n as_o well_o as_o other_o thus_o be_v he_o condemn_v out_o of_o his_o own_o mouth_n thus_o be_v he_o condemn_v by_o those_o who_o he_o allege_v when_o d._n whitaker_n say_v of_o act._n 15._o 97._o 15._o de_fw-fr conc_fw-fr qu._n 3._o c._n 3._o p._n 97._o in_o hoc_fw-la ergo_fw-la concilio_n quivis_fw-la laicus_fw-la &_o presbyter_n definitivum_fw-la suffragium_fw-la habuit_fw-la non_fw-la minus_fw-la quam_fw-la petrus_n that_o be_v in_o this_o synod_n every_o layman_n and_o elder_n have_v a_o definitive_a voice_n as_o well_o as_o peter_n thence_o it_o follow_v that_o there_o be_v a_o authority_n and_o jurisdiction_n in_o the_o synod_n it_o be_v not_o only_o for_o advise_v and_o counsel_n he_o say_v again_o 85._o again_o ibid._n c._n 2._o p._n 85._o the_o end_n of_o synod_n be_v to_o decide_v controversy_n to_o prescribe_v canon_n to_o correct_v abuse_n to_o set_v church_n in_o order_n etc._n etc._n what_o plain_a evidence_n of_o their_o power_n can_v we_o seek_v for_o this_o same_o authority_n of_o synod_n be_v in_o like_a manner_n prove_v by_o that_o which_o 334._o which_o pol._n eccl._n lib._n 3._o p._n 108_o 126._o 334._o mr_n parker_n to_o like_a purpose_n witness_v together_o with_o d._n whitak_n and_o other_o ii_o mr_n can_v here_o do_v yet_o blame_v our_o practice_n in_o deprive_v the_o church_n of_o her_o right_n and_o the_o people_n of_o their_o interest_n and_o be_v so_o eager_a in_o seek_v to_o blame_v the_o manner_n of_o our_o keep_a synod_n that_o unaware_o he_o have_v yield_v we_o the_o matter_n itself_o about_o which_o we_o dispute_v viz._n a_o authority_n of_o give_v sentence_n and_o not_o only_o a_o give_v of_o counsel_n by_o synod_n his_o reprehension_n be_v that_o mr_n paget_n and_o other_o do_v otherwise_o practice_v but_o who_o be_v those_o other_o beside_o i_o why_o do_v he_o not_o name_v they_o as_o well_o as_o i_o be_v they_o any_o other_o than_o all_o the_o know_v reform_a and_o 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of_o many_o thousand_o but_o rather_o the_o multitude_n of_o such_o special_a person_n as_o be_v meet_v in_o the_o synod_n so_o beza_n interprete_v it_o 15.12_o it_o annot._n maj_o in_o n.t._n in_o act._n 15.12_o multitudinis_fw-la autem_fw-la nomine_fw-la intellige_fw-la non_fw-la totam_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la etc._n etc._n by_o the_o name_n of_o the_o multitude_n understand_v not_o the_o whole_a church_n which_o be_v not_o yet_o whole_o adjoin_v but_o the_o whole_a company_n of_o the_o apostle_n and_o elder_n as_o appear_v before_o from_o the_o 6_o verse_n etc._n etc._n piscator_fw-la likewise_o 15.12_o likewise_o schol._n in_o act._n 15.12_o approve_v this_o interpretation_n and_o add_v some_o further_a light_n unto_o it_o from_o the_o reference_n of_o the_o greek_a article_n though_o he_o also_o give_v liberty_n for_o another_o interpretation_n so_o for_o that_o phrase_n the_o whole_a church_n mention_v vers_fw-la 22._o junius_n 1._o junius_n animad_fw-la in_o contr._n 4._o de_fw-fr conc._n l._n 1._o c._n 15._o n._n 19_o etc._n etc._n 16._o n._n 1._o expound_v the_o same_o of_o the_o elder_n and_o deacon_n or_o the_o whole_a clerus_fw-la or_o clergy_n serve_v that_o church_n these_o say_v he_o be_v design_v by_o the_o common_a name_n of_o the_o church_n calvine_n also_o 15.6_o also_o come_v in_o act._n 15.6_o write_v to_o the_o same_o purpose_n luke_n say_v not_o that_o the_o whole_a church_n be_v gather_v together_o but_o those_o that_o be_v man_n of_o learning_n and_o judgement_n and_o which_o by_o virtue_n of_o their_o office_n be_v lawful_a judge_n of_o this_o cause_n it_o may_v be_v indeed_o that_o the_o disputation_n be_v before_o the_o people_n but_o lest_o any_o man_n shall_v think_v that_o the_o common_a people_n be_v promiscuous_o admit_v to_o handle_v the_o cause_n luke_n express_o name_v the_o apostle_n and_o elder_n as_o more_o sit_v to_o take_v cognition_n thereof_o ii_o we_o grant_v that_o beside_o minister_n and_o elder_n other_o member_n of_o the_o church_n may_v have_v suffrage_n or_o voice_n and_o give_v sentence_n in_o synod_n as_o well_o as_o those_o that_o be_v officer_n always_o provide_v that_o they_o be_v lawful_o depute_v and_o send_v thereunto_o thus_o d._n whitaker_n explain_v himself_o touch_v his_o allowance_n of_o lay-man_n to_o have_v voice_n in_o synod_n and_o say_v 92._o say_v de_fw-fr conc._n qu._n 3._o c._n 2._o p._n 92._o every_o man_n ought_v not_o to_o be_v admit_v into_o the_o synod_n nor_o to_o speak_v therein_o but_o he_o that_o shall_v be_v choose_v of_o the_o church_n and_o design_v thereunto_o again_o he_o say_v 103._o say_v ibid._n c._n 3._o p._n 103._o not_o only_o bishop_n be_v to_o be_v choose_v of_o the_o church_n to_o be_v send_v unto_o synod_n but_o other_o godly_a prudent_a &_o learned_a man_n which_o happy_o can_v dispute_v more_o skilful_o and_o inquire_v into_o controversy_n better_o than_o the_o bishop_n whosoever_o be_v send_v of_o the_o church_n he_o represent_v the_o church_n and_o so_o 104._o so_o p._n 97._o 98._o 104._o oft_o in_o other_o place_n junius_n in_o like_a manner_n 10._o manner_n animadv_n de_fw-fr conc_fw-fr l._n 1._o c._n 15._o n._n 4._o etc._n etc._n 16._o n_o 1._o &_o n._n 10._o require_v of_o such_o as_o have_v voice_n in_o synod_n that_o they_o be_v furnish_v with_o gift_n and_o calling_n whether_o officer_n or_o any_o other_o and_o this_o also_o be_v the_o practice_n of_o the_o reform_a church_n in_o these_o part_n where_o upon_o occasion_n divers_a time_n some_o such_o be_v depute_v and_o send_v unto_o synod_n which_o have_v no_o ecclesiastical_a office_n and_o even_o in_o the_o nationall_n synod_n at_o dort_n divers_a other_o member_n of_o the_o church_n which_o be_v neither_o minister_n nor_o elder_n be_v send_v thither_o &_o allow_v to_o be_v delegate_n &_o be_v to_o have_v not_o only_o deliberative_a but_o also_o definitive_a voice_n as_o well_o as_o any_o other_o
able_a to_o resolve_v the_o controversy_n true_a it_o be_v the_o hierarchy_n 3._o hierarchy_n d._n whit._n g._n t._n c._n 3._o deny_v this_o of_o who_o opinion_n mr_n paget_n must_v either_o be_v or_o else_o the_o class_n as_o they_o now_o rule_v must_v fall_v to_o the_o ground_n for_o any_o relief_n that_o this_o scripture_n act._n 15._o will_v yield_v unto_o they_o answ._n 1_o have_v mr_n can_v well_o understand_v the_o state_n of_o the_o question_n or_o what_o he_o say_v and_o whereof_o he_o affirm_v he_o may_v easy_o have_v know_v that_o we_o be_v of_o the_o same_o mind_n with_o mr_n parker_n in_o this_o that_o as_o antioch_n so_o every_o other_o particular_a church_n have_v like_o authority_n to_o end_v their_o own_o controversy_n if_o they_o find_v themselves_o able_a this_o condition_n conceal_v by_o mr_n can_n be_v four_o or_o five_o time_n repeat_v by_o mr_n parker_n in_o the_o 302._o the_o pol._n ecc._n l._n 3._o c._n 20._o p._n 301_o 302._o place_n allege_v speak_v of_o antioch_n and_o other_o particular_a church_n with_o these_o express_a word_n si_fw-la modo_fw-la possit_fw-la si_fw-la modo_fw-la vires_fw-la suppetivissent_fw-la etc._n etc._n if_o they_o can_v if_o they_o have_v ability_n if_o they_o find_v not_o themselves_o too_o weak_a in_o case_n of_o impotency_n etc._n etc._n mr_n can_n hide_v these_o condition_n from_o the_o eye_n of_o his_o reader_n do_v hereby_o hoodwink_a they_o and_o keep_v they_o in_o darkness_n from_o see_v the_o right_a meaning_n of_o mr_n parker_n 11._o beside_o the_o case_n of_o impotency_n allege_v by_o mr_n parker_n there_o be_v another_o reason_n why_o this_o controversy_n at_o antioch_n be_v to_o be_v bring_v unto_o a_o synod_n viz._n because_o it_o be_v causa_fw-la communis_fw-la a_o common_a cause_n that_o concern_v both_o many_o other_o church_n in_o regard_n of_o the_o matter_n and_o in_o special_a the_o church_n of_o jerusalem_n because_o the_o author_n of_o this_o controversy_n be_v not_o member_n of_o the_o church_n of_o antioch_n but_o come_v from_o judaea_n and_o from_o they_o of_o jerusalem_n act._n 15.1_o 24._o and_o therefore_o that_o church_n of_o jerusalem_n have_v more_o right_a and_o authority_n to_o judge_v of_o they_o than_o they_o of_o antioch_n have_v 111._o whereas_o he_o will_v have_v it_o to_o be_v well_o observe_v that_o the_o church_n of_o antioch_n send_v to_o they_o of_o jerusalem_n not_o as_o be_v a_o dependent_a body_n stand_v under_o another_o ecclesiastical_a authority_n out_o of_o themselves_o the_o right_a and_o well_o observe_v hereof_o stand_v in_o this_o that_o we_o acknowledge_v particular_a church_n to_o be_v dependent_a body_n not_o by_o way_n of_o subjection_n unto_o any_o one_o suppose_a to_o have_v more_o authority_n than_o the_o rest_n but_o so_o dependent_a that_o every_o one_o be_v equal_o and_o mutual_o subject_a to_o one_o another_o as_o occasion_n require_v the_o church_n of_o jerusalem_n of_o antioch_n of_o samaria_n and_o other_o be_v all_o of_o 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hereafter_o in_o the_o allegation_n that_o be_v take_v from_o d
part_n deny_v the_o authority_n of_o particular_a eldership_n as_o we_o see_v in_o the_o brownist_n and_o therefore_o after_o private_a admonition_n do_v in_o a_o popular_a order_n refer_v the_o judgement_n even_o of_o lesser_a matter_n unto_o the_o public_a examination_n and_o decision_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n assemble_v together_o not_o permit_v the_o same_o to_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o eldership_n mr_n baynes_n do_v also_o impugn_v this_o practice_n for_o he_o speak_v of_o the_o rule_n of_o discipline_n matt._n 18._o where_o christ_n do_v manifest_o suppose_v the_o power_n of_o jurisdiction_n to_o be_v in_o many_o yet_o after_o some_o other_o observation_n touch_v the_o meaning_n of_o the_o word_n church_n he_o further_o explain_v himself_o when_o he_o add_v these_o note_n and_o say_v 80._o say_v diocese_n trial_n p._n 80._o three_o as_o christ_n do_v speak_v it_o of_o any_o ordinary_a particular_a church_n indistinct_o so_o he_o do_v by_o the_o name_n of_o church_n not_o 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judgement_n touch_v this_o controversy_n be_v the_o same_o with_o that_o which_o i_o have_v here_o note_v out_o of_o his_o writing_n and_o for_o the_o substance_n of_o the_o matter_n no_o other_o than_o that_o which_o i_o maintain_v throughout_o this_o discourse_n sect_n viii_o touch_v the_o english_a church_n at_o frankford_n in_o q._n mary_n time_n io._n dav_n 67._o dav_n apol._n reply_n p._n 243._o a_o discourse_n of_o the_o trouble_n in_o the_o engl._n chur._n at_o franckf_n art_n 62._o art_n 67._o and_o to_o conclude_v thus_o it_o be_v order_v in_o the_o english_a church_n at_o frankford_n among_o the_o exile_n in_o those_o marian_n day_n that_o if_o all_o the_o minister_n and_o senior_n be_v suspect_v or_o find_v party_n if_o any_o appeal_v be_v make_v from_o they_o that_o then_o such_o appeal_n be_v make_v to_o the_o body_n of_o the_o congregation_n etc._n etc._n and_o that_o the_o body_n of_o the_o congregation_n may_v appoint_v so_o many_o of_o the_o congregation_n to_o hear_v and_o determine_v the_o say_a matter_n or_o matter_n as_o it_o shall_v seem_v good_a to_o the_o congregation_n again_o if_o any_o controversy_n be_v about_o the_o doubtful_a meaning_n of_o any_o word_n or_o word_n in_o the_o discipline_n that_o first_o it_o be_v refer_v to_o the_o minister_n or_o senior_n and_o if_o they_o can_v agree_v thereupon_o than_o the_o thing_n be_v refer_v to_o the_o whole_a congregation_n answ._n i._n it_o be_v to_o be_v observe_v that_o these_o two_o article_n of_o discipline_n be_v allege_v against_o i_o by_o 36._o by_o church_n plea_n p._n 36._o mr_n can_v as_o well_o as_o by_o mr_n dau._n there_o be_v this_o difference_n betwixt_o they_o that_o mr_n can_n add_v more_o word_n than_o he_o shall_v and_o mr_n daven_n omit_v some_o word_n that_o shall_v have_v be_v add_v that_o which_o mr_n can_v add_v be_v against_o himself_o and_o serve_v to_o condemn_v the_o practice_n of_o the_o brownist_n when_o he_o faith_n of_o the_o minister_n and_o senior_n that_o 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congregation_n be_v subject_a to_o error_n and_o many_o of_o they_o daily_o do_v err_v why_o shall_v not_o appeal_v be_v grant_v from_o they_o unto_o class_n and_o synod_n especial_o where_o there_o be_v no_o magistrate_n that_o can_v or_o will_v judge_v of_o such_o error_n iii_o this_o appeal_v make_v unto_o the_o body_n of_o the_o congregation_n be_v not_o usual_o permit_v but_o extraordinary_o in_o case_n of_o special_a necessity_n when_o the_o minister_n and_o senior_n be_v not_o able_a to_o end_v the_o controversy_n bring_v unto_o they_o the_o express_a word_n of_o the_o article_n be_v 57_o be_v â—isc_fw-la of_o troubl_n in_o engl_n ch._n at_o franckf_n art_n 57_o in_o case_n they_o can_v end_v they_o than_o afterward_o to_o be_v refer_v to_o the_o whole_a congregation_n their_o ordinary_a practice_n be_v otherwise_o as_o appear_v in_o other_o article_n of_o their_o discipline_n where_o it_o be_v plain_o ordain_v 59_o ordain_v ibid._n art_n 59_o that_o the_o minister_n and_o senior_n shall_v have_v authority_n to_o hear_v and_o determine_v on_o the_o behalf_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n all_o offence_n determinable_a by_o the_o congregation_n commit_v by_o any_o person_n in_o the_o congregation_n unless_o the_o party_n call_v before_o they_o have_v just_a occasion_n to_o take_v exception_n to_o the_o say_a minister_n and_o senior_n or_o to_o appeal_v from_o they_o as_o not_o competent_a judge_n and_o afterward_o again_o there_o be_v another_o strict_a and_o severe_a decree_n 63._o decree_n art_n 63._o if_o any_o person_n do_v unjust_o take_v exception_n to_o any_o of_o the_o minister_n or_o appeal_v from_o the_o whole_a ministry_n that_o then_o such_o person_n beside_o the_o punishment_n for_o the_o principal_a cause_n shall_v also_o be_v punish_v as_o a_o contemner_n of_o the_o ministry_n and_o a_o disturber_n of_o the_o church_n this_o order_n as_o it_o serve_v to_o condemn_v the_o practice_n of_o the_o brownist_n as_o tend_v to_o the_o disturbance_n of_o the_o church_n while_o they_o give_v no_o power_n of_o judge_v and_o decide_v cause_n unto_o the_o eldership_n so_o it_o serve_v for_o the_o reproof_n both_o of_o they_o and_o mr_n davenp_n in_o deny_v the_o authority_n of_o synod_n for_o if_o the_o church_n may_v in_o ordinary_a case_n commit_v their_o authority_n unto_o a_o eldership_n &_o not_o deprive_v themselves_o of_o their_o right_n then_o why_o may_v they_o not_o do_v so_o likewise_o unto_o class_n and_o synod_n four_o this_o english_a church_n at_o frankford_n do_v commit_v and_o delegate_v the_o power_n of_o judge_a controversy_n not_o only_o to_o their_o elder_n but_o upon_o occasion_n even_o unto_o other_o particular_a and_o private_a member_n of_o the_o church_n which_o have_v no_o ecclesiastical_a office_n and_o this_o in_o divers_a degree_n as_o 1._o in_o case_n some_o of_o the_o eldership_n though_o the_o lesser_a part_n be_v except_v against_o as_o party_n 2._o when_o the_o great_a part_n be_v except_v against_o 3._o when_o all_o the_o minister_n and_o senior_n be_v suspect_v etc._n etc._n thus_o they_o do_v erect_v as_o it_o be_v three_o several_a sort_n of_o class_n or_o synod_n within_o themselves_o for_o the_o judicature_n of_o such_o cause_n as_o can_v not_o be_v end_v by_o the_o eldership_n thus_o they_o ordain_v in_o these_o three_o several_a article_n of_o their_o discipline_n which_o follow_v of_o the_o first_o sort_n 60._o sort_n art_n 60._o item_n if_o any_o have_v just_a occasion_n to_o take_v exception_n to_o some_o of_o the_o minister_n and_o senior_n and_o not_o to_o the_o more_o part_n that_o then_o those_o of_o the_o minister_n and_o senior_n to_o who_o the_o exception_n be_v make_v in_o this_o case_n shall_v not_o be_v judge_n but_o in_o this_o case_n for_o the_o time_n remove_v from_o the_o ministry_n and_o that_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o minister_n and_o senior_n to_o who_o no_o exception_n shall_v be_v make_v with_o as_o many_o of_o the_o congregation_n join_v to_o they_o as_o they_o be_v in_o number_n which_o shall_v be_v except_v shall_v be_v arbiter_n and_o judge_n in_o the_o say_a cause_n and_o that_o the_o say_v person_n so_o to_o be_v join_v to_o the_o minister_n and_o senior_n shall_v be_v appoint_v by_o the_o congregation_n the_o minister_n and_o senior_n not_o except_v give_v their_o voice_n as_o other_o of_o the_o congregation_n of_o the_o second_o sort_n 61._o sort_n art_n 61._o item_n if_o exception_n be_v take_v to_o the_o more_o part_n of_o the_o minister_n and_o senior_n that_o then_o the_o church_n shall_v appoint_v six_o more_o to_o be_v judge_n with_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o minister_n against_o who_o exception_n be_v not_o make_v the_o same_o rest_n of_o the_o minister_n have_v their_o voice_n in_o the_o election_n of_o the_o six_o as_o other_o member_n of_o the_o church_n of_o the_o three_o sort_n 62._o sort_n art_n 62._o item_n if_o all_o the_o minister_n and_o senior_n be_v suspect_v or_o find_v party_n or_o if_o any_o appeal_v 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mr_n cartwright_n and_o other_o also_o teach_v the_o same_o thing_n argum_fw-la iii_o 70._o iii_o church_n plea._n p._n 70._o whatsoever_o be_v command_v to_o the_o 7_o church_n to_o be_v practise_v by_o each_o of_o they_o apart_z in_o and_o for_o themselves_o that_o no_o church_n of_o god_n must_v now_o omit_v but_o ecclesiastical_a government_n be_v command_v to_o the_o 7_o church_n to_o be_v practise_v by_o each_o of_o they_o apart_z in_o and_o for_o themselves_o therefore_o no_o church_n of_o god_n must_v omit_v the_o practice_n of_o ecclesiastical_a government_n apart_o in_o and_o for_o themselves_o the_o proposition_n can_v be_v doubt_v of_o for_o as_o chytraeus_n etc._n etc._n the_o assumption_n be_v prove_v clear_o in_o chap._n 2._o vers_fw-la 2_o 14_o 20._o etc._n etc._n moreover_o mr_n perkins_n etc._n etc._n answ._n i._n this_o argument_n for_o the_o form_n of_o it_o be_v a_o misshape_a syllogism_n and_o that_o in_o a_o double_a respect_n both_o because_o the_o minor_a 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he_o so_o bold_o affirm_v to_o be_v unquestionable_o certain_a viz._n that_o which_o be_v indeed_o the_o first_o part_n of_o this_o argument_n be_v on_o the_o contrary_n most_o certain_o false_a this_o consequence_n of_o his_o major_a proposition_n remain_v to_o be_v prove_v scripture_n he_o allege_v none_o at_o all_o and_o for_o those_o eleven_o author_n mention_v by_o he_o there_o be_v not_o one_o of_o they_o that_o confirm_v his_o consequence_n why_o do_v he_o not_o express_v their_o word_n &_o apply_v they_o to_o his_o purpose_n &_o enforce_v they_o against_o we_o if_o he_o think_v they_o will_v have_v serve_v his_o turn_n it_o be_v say_v to_o have_v be_v a_o stratagem_n of_o thief_n that_o to_o affright_v man_n they_o have_v take_v many_o hat_n and_o set_v they_o upon_o stake_n afar_o of_o that_o passenger_n imagine_v they_o to_o be_v man_n &_o partaker_n with_o those_o thief_n that_o come_v unto_o they_o may_v the_o soon_o yield_v thus_o do_v mr_n can_n who_o set_v down_o the_o 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corinth_n do_v exercise_v ecclesiastical_a government_n within_o herself_o and_o i_o affirm_v as_o much_o for_o our_o own_o and_o other_o particular_a congregation_n here_o and_o mr_n can_n with_o as_o good_a reason_n may_v argue_v that_o we_o do_v not_o stand_v under_o class_n and_o synod_n if_o there_o be_v any_o soundness_n in_o his_o syllogism_n my_o opinion_n touch_v the_o church_n of_o corinth_n may_v be_v discern_v sufficient_o by_o that_o which_o i_o note_v touch_v the_o 7_o church_n in_o answer_n to_o his_o former_a argument_n and_o as_o for_o mr_n cartwright_n and_o mr_n parker_n who_o he_o special_o allege_v they_o help_v he_o not_o at_o all_o i_o acknowledge_v mr_n parker_n do_v just_o oppose_v they_o that_o hold_v the_o church_n of_o corinth_n do_v not_o excommunicate_v the_o incestuous_a person_n but_o apostle_n alone_o but_o i_o do_v more_o full_o assent_v unto_o mr_n cartwright_n who_o differ_v something_o from_o mr_n parker_n and_o refute_v the_o rhemist_n most_o 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thereupon_o that_o the_o apostle_n give_v more_o unto_o the_o church_n in_o excommunication_n then_o to_o be_v witness_n and_o looker_n on_o for_o he_o use_v the_o same_o 5.3.12_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 1._o cor._n 5.3.12_o word_n to_o declare_v the_o church_n interest_n that_o he_o use_v before_o to_o note_v his_o own_o if_o then_o you_o will_v say_v that_o the_o church_n judgement_n in_o excommunication_n be_v but_o to_o bear_v witness_n it_o follow_v that_o the_o apostle_n then_o and_o consequent_o their_o successor_n now_o be_v only_o to_o bear_v witness_n of_o the_o excommunication_n hereunto_o come_v also_o that_o the_o release_n of_o this_o censure_n be_v asscribe_v in_o the_o same_o word_n of_o forgiveness_n or_o absolution_n unto_o the_o church_n as_o unto_o paul_n 2._o cor._n 2.10_o now_o to_o have_v the_o same_o word_n in_o the_o same_o verse_n and_o the_o same_o cause_n to_o be_v understand_v diverse_o and_o refer_v to_o paul_n to_o have_v the_o proper_a signification_n of_o remit_v but_o refer_v to_o the_o church_n to_o signify_v a_o witness_v of_o remission_n need_v more_o learning_n for_o the_o defence_n of_o it_o then_o fall_v unto_o the_o jesuite_n capacity_n thus_o he_o show_v that_o neither_o the_o sole_a authority_n of_o the_o church_n on_o the_o one_o side_n nor_o the_o sole_a authority_n of_o paul_n on_o the_o other_o side_n do_v determine_v this_o business_n again_o have_v there_o a_o dangerous_a contention_n rise_v in_o corinth_n which_o by_o their_o sole_a authority_n they_o can_v not_o end_v what_o shall_v have_v hinder_v they_o from_o follow_v the_o example_n of_o the_o church_n at_o antioch_n in_o seek_v help_n both_o by_o counsel_n and_o authority_n of_o other_o church_n for_o the_o judgement_n thereof_o i._o can._n the_o latter_a part_n be_v prove_v before_o in_o the_o minor_n of_o the_o 1._o and_o 3._o argument_n answ._n it_o it_o manifest_v that_o he_o do_v not_o know_v the_o minor_a from_o the_o major_a in_o some_o of_o his_o former_a syllogism_n and_o so_o in_o this_o place_n it_o appear_v he_o do_v not_o discern_v the_o first_o from_o the_o latter_a part_n of_o his_o argument_n but_o what_o he_o object_v before_o be_v already_o answer_v it_o be_v vain_a &_o helpless_a for_o he_o to_o rely_v upon_o his_o former_a poofe_n argum_fw-la v._o 71._o v._o churc_n plea._n p._n 71._o such_o action_n the_o church_n may_v lawful_o do_v wherein_o no_o law_n of_o god_n be_v break_v but_o there_o be_v no_o law_n of_o god_n break_v when_o particular_a congregation_n do_v in_o &_o among_o themselves_o exercise_v all_o god_n ordinance_n therefore_o they_o may_v lawful_o do_v it_o the_o proof_n of_o the_o proposition_n do_v arise_v from_o the_o definition_n of_o sin_n which_o as_o 27._o as_o cont_n fan._n l._n 22._o c._n 27._o augustine_n and_o 8._o and_o lib._n de_fw-fr paradis_n c._n 8._o ambrose_n true_o define_v it_o be_v either_o a_o deed_n or_o word_n or_o thought_n against_o some_o divine_a law_n 35._o law_n lib._n 2._o do_v 35._o lombard_n 71._o lombard_n th._n 12._o q._n 71._o aquinas_n and_o other_o schoolman_n as_o they_o be_v call_v agree_v hereto_o the_o assumption_n be_v manifest_a in_o our_o first_o argument_n the_o first_o part_n of_o it_o answ._n this_o argument_n touch_v not_o the_o question_n we_o grant_v his_o conclusion_n that_o particular_a congregation_n may_v in_o &_o among_o themselves_o exercise_v all_o god_n ordinance_n and_o among_o the_o rest_n this_o ordinance_n of_o combine_v themselves_o in_o synod_n for_o the_o decision_n of_o their_o controversy_n this_o may_v be_v say_v as_o well_o to_o be_v in_o &_o among_o themselves_o as_o the_o use_n of_o synod_n for_o counsel_n which_o my_o opposite_n allow_v for_o a_o ordinance_n of_o god_n and_o as_o particular_a church_n may_v refuse_v the_o counsel_n of_o synod_n if_o it_o be_v unlawful_a so_o ought_v they_o to_o disobey_v the_o sentence_n and_o decree_n of_o synod_n if_o they_o determine_v any_o thing_n 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those_o at_o amsterdam_n he_o say_v these_o differ_v far_o from_o they_o herein_o they_o will_v not_o consent_v hereunto_o they_o will_v not_o be_v persuade_v or_o entreat_v to_o let_v the_o reform_a church_n hear_v try_v judge_n and_o end_v the_o controversy_n between_o they_o and_o we_o for_o proof_n hereof_o he_o note_v in_o his_o margin_n this_o be_v witness_v by_o the_o testimony_n of_o the_o dutch_a preacher_n give_v to_o the_o pastor_n father_n now_o instead_o of_o plead_v from_o the_o order_n of_o that_o church_n at_o frankford_n it_o have_v be_v fit_a for_o mr_n can_n to_o have_v take_v warning_n from_o these_o unparallelled_a offence_n of_o his_o predecessor_n not_o to_o maintain_v the_o like_a disorder_n or_o else_o to_o have_v answer_v these_o parallel_n and_o censure_n of_o g._n johnson_n and_o so_o to_o have_v remove_v if_o he_o can_v the_o scandal_n and_o blame_n which_o have_v so_o long_o lie_v upon_o his_o fellow_n for_o not_o answer_v this_o book_n have_v consider_v the_o particular_a testimony_n of_o nonconformist_n and_o how_o they_o have_v be_v pervert_v by_o mr_n can_n in_o apply_v they_o against_o the_o authority_n of_o synod_n it_o shall_v not_o be_v amiss_o to_o add_v yet_o further_o a_o threefold_a testimony_n to_o manifest_v this_o point_n more_o clear_o and_o full_o and_o so_o to_o conclude_v this_o section_n namely_o by_o the_o petition_n of_o nonconformist_n to_o qu._n elizabeth_n and_o to_o the_o parliament_n the_o opposition_n of_o the_o prelate_n to_o the_o nonconformist_n &_o the_o scorn_n of_o the_o brownist_n against_o nonconformist_n first_o when_o as_o the_o minister_n have_v make_v request_n unto_o q._n elizabeth_n for_o reformation_n of_o thing_n amiss_o show_v how_o controversy_n may_v be_v compound_v they_o say_v 3._o say_v petit._n to_o the_o q._n most_o excellent_a maj._n p._n 3._o that_o a_o free_a nationall_n or_o provincial_n council_n at_o home_n be_v much_o to_o be_v wish_v etc._n etc._n and_o in_o a_o treatise_n annex_v thereunto_o entitle_v opinion_n of_o such_o as_o sue_v for_o reformation_n among_o other_o thing_n which_o they_o hold_v &_o sue_v for_o this_o be_v one_o 57_o one_o ibid._n §_o 19_o p_o 57_o that_o if_o any_o dissension_n grow_v or_o cause_v of_o grievance_n be_v give_v in_o any_o particular_a church_n by_o the_o minister_n or_o officer_n the_o party_n grieve_v may_v appeal_v to_o a_o particular_a synod_n from_o the_o particular_a synod_n to_o a_o provincial_n synod_n from_o a_o provincial_n synod_n to_o a_o nationall_n synod_n which_o synod_n shall_v be_v appoint_v at_o set_a time_n the_o more_o particular_a the_o synod_n be_v the_o more_o often_o for_o the_o time_n to_o be_v moderate_v by_o some_o fit_a man_n changeable_o by_o election_n that_o may_v write_v speak_v and_o pray_v in_o the_o behalf_n and_o at_o the_o direction_n of_o the_o rest_n etc._n etc._n and_o a_o little_a after_o again_o 21._o again_o §_o 21._o they_o do_v profess_v and_o protest_v that_o they_o can_v and_o will_v avow_v this_o reformation_n which_o they_o desire_v to_o be_v most_o agreeable_a to_o the_o scripture_n to_o have_v the_o testimony_n of_o the_o best_a &_o most_o learned_a man_n that_o have_v be_v since_o the_o apostle_n etc._n etc._n if_o mr_n ca._n will_v not_o wink_v with_o his_o eye_n he_o may_v here_o see_v what_o reformation_n have_v be_v seek_v and_o hold_v needful_a and_o that_o jure_fw-la divino_fw-la in_o like_a manner_n mr_n travers_n testify_v of_o these_o conference_n or_o class_n &_o synod_n 1617._o synod_n eccles_n disc_n p._n 98._o with_o p_o 103._o 104._o reprin_n 1617._o that_o nothing_o can_v be_v more_o profitable_a than_o these_o assembly_n be_v so_o use_v as_o they_o be_v appoint_v to_o be_v use_v by_o the_o word_n of_o god_n and_o use_v by_o other_o pure_a and_o better_a reform_a church_n etc._n etc._n and_o conclude_v that_o his_o treatise_n of_o discipline_n with_o a_o humble_a supplication_n unto_o qu._n elizabeth_n of_o happy_a memory_n for_o the_o establish_n of_o such_o a_o discipline_n in_o her_o dominion_n to_o like_o purpose_n do_v they_o write_v which_o be_v the_o author_n of_o the_o admonition_n to_o the_o parliament_n hold_v in_o the_o 13._o year_n of_o q._n eliz._n begin_o anno_fw-la 1570_o and_o end_v 1571._o they_o 1617._o they_o admon_n to_o parl._n p._n 51_o 52._o ed._n 1617._o describe_v the_o platform_n of_o 2_o church_n reform_v and_o present_v their_o desire_n to_o the_o consideration_n of_o the_o parliament_n do_v therein_o commend_v the_o use_n of_o conference_n and_o of_o synod_n provincial_n nationall_n and_o general_n for_o determine_v the_o weighty_a cause_n which_o can_v not_o be_v end_v in_o particular_a church_n and_o they_o require_v that_o man_n shall_v stand_v unto_o these_o determination_n unless_o they_o can_v be_v show_v to_o be_v contrary_a to_o the_o scripture_n second_o such_o as_o have_v be_v special_a maintainer_n of_o the_o prelacy_n do_v confess_v and_o testify_v that_o the_o minister_n which_o seek_v for_o reformation_n do_v therein_o seek_v for_o government_n of_o the_o church_n by_o class_n and_o synod_n and_o that_o not_o for_o counsel_v only_o but_o to_o judge_v the_o cause_n of_o particular_a church_n and_o to_o censure_v such_o person_n as_o be_v find_v guilty_a it_o be_v by_o one_o of_o they_o manifest_v in_o a_o special_a 2-15_a special_a danger_n positio_fw-la for_o presbyteri_fw-la governm_fw-la l._n 3._o c._n 2-15_a record_n that_o when_o divers_a minister_n not_o conform_v be_v cast_v into_o prison_n and_o some_o of_o they_o bring_v into_o the_o star-chamber_n and_o examine_v upon_o their_o oath_n they_o declare_v the_o earnest_a endeavour_n of_o many_o minister_n for_o the_o obtain_n of_o class_n and_o there_o among_o such_o as_o give_v pregnant_a testimony_n in_o allowance_n of_o classical_a government_n be_v nominate_v these_o follow_v mr_n chark_n mr_n travers_n mr_n gardiner_n mr_n barber_n mr_n chester_n mr_n crook_n mr_n egerton_n mr_n field_n mr_n wilcox_n mr_n standen_n mr_n jackson_n mr_n bonham_n mr_n crane_n mr_n sâ—inctloe_n mr_n edward_n mr_n cholmeley_n mr_n wright_n mr_n gifford_n mr_n gelibrand_n mr_n west_n mr_n browne_n mr_n knewstubs_n mr_n wight_n mr_n walker_n mr_n cartwright_n mr_n fen_n mr_n oxenbridge_n mr_n perkins_n mr_n allen_n mr_n dike_n mr_n culverwell_n etc._n etc._n and_o about_o northamptonshire_n alone_o be_v 77_o be_v ib._n p._n 77_o record_v more_o than_o 20_o of_o this_o mind_n about_o northampton_n mr_n snape_n mr_n penrie_n mr_n sibthorp_n mr_n edward_n mr_n litlâ—ton_n mr_n bradshaw_n mr_n lark_n mr_n fleshware_fw-mi mr_n spicer_n etc._n etc._n about_o daventrie_n mr_n barbon_n mr_n rogers_n mr_n king_n mr_n smart_n mr_n sharp_a mr_n promdlos_n mr_n elliston_n etc._n etc._n about_o kettr_n mr_n stone_n mr_n williamson_n mr_n fawsbrook_n mr_n patinson_n mr_n massey_n etc._n etc._n the_o law_n rule_n and_o order_n both_o in_o class_n and_o in_o synod_n describe_v in_o
england_n and_o these_o minister_n when_o they_o be_v come_v over_o be_v esteem_v &_o receive_v as_o angel_n in_o hell_n and_o shine_v as_o bright_a star_n in_o these_o smoky_a egyptian_a fornace_n wherein_o the_o miserable_a people_n of_o the_o land_n be_v keep_v in_o most_o hard_a servitude_n etc._n etc._n these_o scornful_a and_o reproachful_a speech_n of_o h._n barow_n do_v sufficient_o testify_v what_o the_o brownist_n of_o old_a thought_n of_o the_o dutch_a class_n and_o synod_n and_o what_o they_o think_v of_o such_o minister_n in_o england_n as_o desire_v a_o reformation_n and_o therein_o a_o classical_a government_n though_o h._n barow_n according_a to_o his_o manner_n do_v overlash_n and_o utter_v much_o falsehood_n yet_o he_o be_v not_o guilty_a of_o so_o great_a fallhood_n as_o mr_n can_n in_o deny_v what_o the_o minister_n and_o forward_a professor_n in_o england_n as_o he_o call_v they_o do_v heretofore_o seek_v and_o sue_v for_o it_o be_v certain_a and_o evident_a that_o the_o nonconformist_n have_v 1617._o have_v demonst_a of_o disc_n c._n â—_o pr._n 3._o &_o p._n 24_o 25._o mr_n travers_n of_o ecc._n disc_n p._n 19_o 20._o admon_n to_o parl._n p._n 15._o edit_n 1617._o hold_v that_o unto_o the_o just_a call_n of_o a_o minister_n there_o be_v require_v the_o call_n of_o a_o particular_a and_o certain_a church_n where_o he_o be_v to_o administer_v yea_o so_o much_o be_v also_o confess_v touch_v they_o by_o the_o 115._o the_o dang_n pos_fw-gr l._n 3._o of_o engl._n scoti_n c._n 3._o p._n 46._o etc._n etc._n 14._o p._n 114._o 115._o prelatist_n when_o by_o they_o it_o be_v record_v as_o a_o decree_n of_o the_o synodical_a discipline_n that_o none_o shall_v take_v upon_o he_o a_o uncertain_a and_o vague_n ministry_n though_o it_o be_v offer_v unto_o he_o but_o such_o as_o be_v call_v to_o the_o ministry_n by_o some_o certain_a church_n etc._n etc._n and_o again_o that_o none_o be_v to_o be_v account_v a_o full_a minister_n until_o some_o particular_a congregation_n have_v choose_v he_o etc._n etc._n for_o though_o as_o in_o these_o church_n after_o due_a examination_n &_o approbation_n by_o a_o classis_fw-la man_n be_v allow_v to_o preach_v and_o to_o exercise_v their_o gift_n occasional_o yet_o be_v not_o such_o esteem_a minister_n until_o they_o be_v call_v by_o some_o church_n and_o confirm_v therein_o but_o h._n bar._n as_o in_o divers_a other_o thing_n so_o in_o this_o speak_v slanderous_o of_o the_o class_n and_o of_o the_o minister_n approve_v they_o when_o as_o he_o say_v 175._o say_v discov_n p_o 175._o both_o side_n both_o bishop_n and_o this_o new_a classis_fw-la take_v upon_o they_o to_o make_v minister_n without_o the_o people_n without_o any_o charge_n place_n or_o office_n certain_a though_o the_o falsehood_n of_o h._n bar._n be_v manifest_a herein_o yet_o mr_n can_v go_v a_o degree_n beyond_o he_o when_o he_o shame_v not_o to_o deny_v the_o approbation_n which_o the_o nonconformist_n have_v give_v to_o the_o dutch_a class_n and_o synod_n which_o h._n bar._n can_v not_o deny_v for_o the_o fact_n though_o he_o impugn_v they_o as_o err_v therein_o let_v the_o reader_n now_o observe_v here_o the_o palpable_a untrueth_n of_o mr_n c._n &_o of_o w.b._n in_o their_o apish_a imitation_n of_o my_o word_n which_o they_o so_o false_o apply_v against_o i_o say_v 89._o say_v chu_n pl._n p._n 88_o 89._o as_o herod_n to_o kill_v one_o infant_n spare_v not_o to_o kill_v a_o multitude_n of_o other_o infant_n so_o he_o that_o he_o may_v undermine_v we_o and_o blow_v we_o up_o into_o the_o air_n he_o care_v not_o nor_o spare_v not_o with_o the_o gunpowder_n of_o his_o fiery_a contention_n and_o reproach_n to_o blow_v up_o with_o we_o a_o multitude_n of_o godly_a and_o learned_a minister_n be_v of_o the_o same_o judgement_n with_o we_o i_o desire_v the_o reader_n to_o look_v upon_o my_o former_a etc._n former_a answ_n to_o w.b._n p._n 71_o 72_o 73._o &_o 18_o 29.30_o etc._n etc._n writing_n and_o then_o to_o judge_v whether_o i_o have_v not_o just_a cause_n to_o complain_v of_o their_o wound_v the_o classis_fw-la through_o my_o side_n and_o of_o their_o reproach_v the_o minister_n of_o these_o reform_a church_n under_o my_o name_n in_o regard_n of_o their_o consent_n and_o practice_v agreeable_a to_o i_o i_o desire_v that_o the_o testimony_n confession_n and_o petition_n of_o the_o ancient_a nonconformist_n above_o mention_v in_o allowance_n of_o a_o classical_a &_o synodall_n government_n may_v be_v due_o ponder_v &_o then_o let_v any_o indifferent_a reader_n judge_n whether_o i_o undermine_v they_o and_o blow_v they_o up_o into_o the_o air_n etc._n etc._n while_o i_o confirm_v their_o testimony_n both_o by_o word_n and_o practice_n but_o these_o opposite_n mr_n can_n and_o his_o client_n have_v so_o little_a conscience_n of_o truth_n that_o they_o have_v not_o care_v to_o utter_v the_o gross_a falsehood_n so_o that_o they_o may_v but_o contradict_v i_o let_v they_o remember_v lie_v lip_n be_v a_o abomination_n to_o the_o lord_n prov._n 12.22_o sect_n vi_o touch_v the_o testimony_n of_o ancient_a father_n counsel_n and_o emperor_n the_o advocate_n of_o w.b._n not_o content_a with_o the_o testimony_n of_o man_n in_o late_a time_n lead_v we_o back_o to_o the_o testimony_n of_o antiquity_n and_o to_o the_o age_n long_o before_o and_o though_o he_o 89._o he_o ch._n pl._n p._n 89._o confess_v he_o have_v do_v it_o already_o in_o mention_v some_o testimony_n of_o the_o most_o ancient_a time_n yet_o notwithstanding_o to_o show_v that_o he_o stand_v not_o for_o any_o novelty_n he_o profess_v again_o he_o will_v show_v that_o the_o best_a approve_a author_n after_o the_o apostle_n be_v direct_o with_o they_o in_o this_o thing_n etc._n etc._n those_o which_o he_o allege_v be_v these_o ignatius_n tertullian_n origen_n cyprian_n eusebius_n athanasius_n epiphanius_n jerome_n ambrose_n cyrill_n hilary_n greg._n nazianzen_n augustine_n chrysostome_n basill_n socrates_n isidorus_n bernard_n and_o with_o these_o he_o also_o make_v mention_n of_o some_o counsel_n and_o christian_a emperor_n for_o answer_v hereunto_o first_o in_o general_n it_o be_v to_o be_v observe_v that_o the_o thing_n which_o he_o here_o pretend_v to_o prove_v viz._n that_o every_o particular_a visible_a church_n of_o christ_n have_v power_n to_o exercise_v ecclesiastical_a government_n and_o all_o other_o god_n spiritual_a ordinance_n in_o and_o for_o itself_o immediate_o from_o christ_n this_o come_v short_a of_o the_o question_n betwixt_o we_o for_o this_o be_v grant_v it_o do_v not_o follow_v hereupon_o that_o the_o power_n of_o class_n and_o synod_n be_v a_o undue_a power_n or_o that_o particular_a church_n may_v not_o therefore_o stand_v under_o the_o authority_n of_o another_o superior_a ecclesiastical_a judicatory_a out_o of_o themselves_o this_o their_o inference_n will_v never_o be_v make_v good_a from_o such_o a_o ground_n this_o beggarly_a consequence_n i_o have_v oft_o etc._n oft_o p._n 145_o 146_o 149._o etc._n etc._n refute_v before_o to_o come_v more_o particular_o unto_o the_o testimony_n of_o these_o author_n which_o he_o promise_v to_o set_v down_o according_a to_o the_o time_n in_o which_o they_o live_v and_o to_o begin_v first_o with_o ignatius_n from_o he_o he_o allege_v that_o it_o be_v then_o the_o manner_n of_o visible_a church_n trall_n church_n ad_fw-la philadelph_n ad_fw-la magnes_fw-la ad_fw-la trall_n to_o come_v together_o in_o one_o place_n to_o worship_n god_n have_v bishop_n elder_n and_o deacon_n unto_o their_o officer_n who_o the_o people_n free_o choose_v by_o voice_n or_o lift_v up_o of_o hand_n i_o answer_v 1._o all_o that_o be_v here_o say_v be_v grant_v it_o follow_v not_o that_o they_o be_v independent_a and_o refuse_v to_o submit_v their_o controversy_n to_o the_o judgement_n of_o other_o church_n assemble_v in_o synod_n ignatius_n be_v minister_n of_o the_o church_n of_o antiochia_n in_o syria_n which_o have_v of_o old_a submit_v their_o controversy_n to_o the_o synod_n hold_v at_o jerusalem_n act._n 15._o what_o reason_n be_v there_o to_o think_v they_o forget_v their_o old_a practice_n approve_v by_o the_o apostle_n themselves_o 11._o though_o it_o be_v probable_a and_o we_o injudgement_n of_o charity_n be_v bind_v to_o think_v that_o the_o officer_n bishop_n elder_n and_o deacon_n of_o this_o church_n be_v choose_v with_o the_o free_a consent_n of_o the_o people_n according_a to_o the_o direction_n of_o the_o apostle_n yet_o be_v not_o so_o much_o specify_v in_o any_o of_o those_o three_o epistle_n here_o mention_v in_o the_o margin_n and_o therefore_o be_v they_o vain_o allege_v for_o the_o proof_n thereof_o iii_o ignatius_n labour_v for_o the_o peace_n and_o establishment_n of_o the_o church_n of_o antiochia_n after_o his_o death_n desire_v the_o church_n of_o philadelphia_n 1562._o philadelphia_n epist_n ad_fw-la philadel_n p._n 76._o edit_n paris_n 1562._o
1_o viz._n amb._n offi._n l._n 1._o c._n 1_o these_o with_o spiritual_a bridle_n order_n man_n etc._n etc._n i_o answer_v i._o in_o the_o place_n allege_v there_o be_v not_o a_o word_n to_o be_v find_v either_o touch_v a_o senate_n of_o elder_n or_o touch_v spiritual_a bridle_n or_o any_o thing_n to_o like_a purpose_n ii_o if_o a_o senate_n of_o elder_n be_v spiritual_a bridle_n than_o the_o brownist_n with_o mr_n c._n that_o now_o want_v such_o a_o senate_n be_v a_o unbridled_a company_n want_v order_n etc._n etc._n iii_o what_o though_o a_o assembly_n of_o elder_n order_n man_n with_o spiritual_a bridle_n be_v there_o therefore_o no_o other_o spiritual_a bridle_n in_o the_o authority_n of_o synod_n what_o consequence_n be_v this_o iv_o that_o ambrose_n do_v allow_v the_o authority_n and_o jurisdiction_n of_o synod_n it_o appear_v both_o by_o his_o practice_n he_o 9_o he_o theod._n hist_o eccl._n l._n 5._o c._n 9_o himself_o be_v present_a with_o damasus_n britto_n valerian_n and_o other_o bishop_n at_o the_o synod_n hold_v at_o rome_n for_o the_o censure_n of_o apollinaris_n and_o timotheus_n his_o disciple_n and_o by_o his_o theoph._n his_o amb._n tom._n 3._o epi._n l._n 10._o ep_n 78._o ad_fw-la theoph._n exhortation_n give_v unto_o theophilus_n and_o other_o to_o judge_v the_o cause_n of_o euagrius_n and_o flavianus_n be_v depute_v thereunto_o by_o the_o synod_n of_o capua_n and_o again_o by_o his_o any_o his_o ib._n epi._n 79._o ad_fw-la theoph_n &_o any_o exhortation_n give_v unto_o theophilus_n &_o anysius_n that_o they_o be_v choose_v by_o the_o same_o synod_n of_o capua_n will_v give_v sentence_n touch_v bonosus_n and_o his_o accuser_n forasmuch_o as_o the_o synod_n have_v give_v this_o authority_n unto_o they_o and_o they_o do_v now_o supply_v the_o place_n thereof_o with_o ambrose_n he_o join_v patr_n join_v in_o orat_fw-la fun_n de_fw-fr patr_n nazianzen_n to_o testify_v also_o that_o a_o senate_n or_o assembly_n of_o elder_n do_v with_o spiritual_a bridle_n order_n man_n but_o in_o the_o place_n allege_v i_o find_v no_o such_o testimony_n as_o be_v mention_v and_o therefore_o the_o three_o first_o answer_n make_v before_o unto_o the_o testimony_n from_o ambrose_n may_v also_o serve_v for_o nazianzen_n and_o further_o that_o gregory_n nazianzen_n do_v not_o limit_v all_o ecclesiastical_a power_n and_o jurisdiction_n unto_o a_o particular_a congregation_n only_o it_o may_v appear_v if_o we_o observe_v i._n how_o 17._o how_o soc._n hist_o ecc._n l._n 4._o c._n 21._o sozom._n hist_o ecc._n l._n 6._o c._n 17._o he_o himself_o be_v make_v bishop_n of_o constantinople_n by_o the_o suffrage_n of_o many_o bishop_n meet_v together_o which_o be_v a_o further_a degree_n of_o ecclesiastical_a authority_n then_o that_o which_o be_v exercise_v in_o the_o class_n or_o synod_n of_o these_o country_n ii_o how_o he_o plead_v clidon_n plead_v nazian_n epist_n 1._o ad_fw-la clidon_n from_o a_o synodall_n law_n touch_v the_o receyve_v of_o those_o that_o be_v fall_v iii_o how_o he_o allow_v the_o order_n of_o convocate_a and_o assemble_v neighbour_n bishop_n about_o the_o create_v of_o a_o new_a bishop_n affirm_v this_o to_o be_v caesarien_n be_v epi._n 30._o ad_fw-la caesarien_n right_a and_o according_a to_o the_o ecclesiastical_a law_n iv_o how_o he_o in_o his_o counsel_n and_o exhortation_n unto_o the_o synod_n at_o constantinope_n 8._o constantinope_n theod._n hist_o eccl._n l._n 5._o c._n 8._o asscribe_v unto_o they_o authority_n and_o power_n for_o his_o own_o dimission_n and_o translation_n for_o the_o set_n of_o another_o unblameable_a bishop_n in_o his_o place_n and_o thereby_o withal_o for_o the_o deposition_n and_o abdication_n of_o maximus_n which_o be_v according_o perform_v that_o which_o may_v with_o more_o colour_n be_v object_v out_o of_o nazianzen_n against_o the_o use_n of_o synod_n and_o which_o be_v also_o allege_a both_o by_o mr_n can_n and_o by_o mr_n davenp_n though_o not_o direct_o against_o the_o authority_n of_o synod_n be_v yet_o so_o bring_v in_o by_o the_o way_n as_o may_v cause_v a_o simple_a reader_n to_o stumble_v thereat_o the_o word_n of_o nazianzen_n as_o mr_n can_n 93._o can_n ch._n pl._n p._n 93._o allege_v they_o be_v these_o procop._n these_o ep._n 42._o ad_fw-la procop._n i_o be_o mind_v say_v he_o to_o shun_v all_o assembly_n of_o bishop_n because_o i_o never_o see_v any_o good_a event_n in_o any_o council_n that_o do_v not_o rather_o increase_v then_o diminish_v our_o evil_n their_o contention_n and_o ambition_n pass_v my_o speech_n answ._n i._n observe_v how_o mr_n c._n mistranslate_v those_o word_n of_o nazianzen_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d which_o he_o render_v as_o signify_v pass_v my_o speech_n whereas_o they_o signify_v prevayl_v more_o than_o reason_n as_o 225._o as_o apo._n tep_n p._n 225._o mr_n dau._n do_v right_o translate_v they_o but_o it_o be_v no_o wonder_n that_o mr_n can_n shall_v mistake_v that_o which_o some_o more_o learned_a have_v do_v before_o grosser_n fault_n be_v more_o common_a with_o he_o ii_o as_o for_o the_o testimony_n of_o nazianzen_n the_o answer_n of_o d._n whitaker_n may_v give_v sufficient_a satisfaction_n who_o say_v 15._o say_v de_fw-fr conc_fw-fr qu._n 1._o c._n 3._o p._n 13.14_o 15._o it_o may_v seem_v strange_a that_o nazianzen_n deny_v he_o have_v see_v a_o good_a issue_n of_o any_o synod_n for_o in_o those_o two_o synod_n viz._n of_o nice_a and_o constantinople_n which_o have_v be_v mention_v before_o truth_n get_v the_o victory_n and_o heresy_n be_v put_v down_o and_o though_o it_o be_v certain_a that_o arianisme_n be_v increase_v and_o grow_v strong_a and_o trouble_v the_o church_n after_o the_o synod_n of_o nice_a more_o than_o before_o yet_o that_o be_v not_o to_o be_v impute_v to_o the_o synod_n but_o to_o the_o contention_n and_o ambition_n of_o man_n for_o as_o our_o corrupt_a nature_n do_v more_o vehement_o resist_v the_o know_a law_n of_o god_n and_o rush_v headlong_o unto_o sin_n so_o falsehood_n oppose_v itself_o more_o bold_o unto_o the_o truth_n then_o explain_v and_o open_o defend_v whereupon_o after_o that_o synod_n which_o none_o excel_v great_a incommodity_n do_v arise_v from_o the_o wickedness_n of_o man_n etc._n etc._n when_o nazianz._n see_v so_o wicked_a disposition_n of_o man_n he_o be_v whole_o turn_v from_o counsel_n although_o without_o doubt_n he_o disallow_v not_o the_o thing_n itself_o but_o the_o wicked_a endeavour_n of_o man_n now_o if_o any_o will_v reason_v after_o this_o manner_n the_o issue_n of_o synod_n be_v not_o good_a or_o more_o evil_n follow_v thence_o therefore_o synod_n be_v to_o be_v avoid_v that_o man_n shall_v dispute_v deceitful_o from_o a_o wrong_a cause_n from_o accident_n and_o from_o the_o fallacy_n of_o consequent_a but_o nazianzen_n be_v to_o be_v pardon_v because_o he_o live_v in_o the_o worst_a and_o most_o turbulent_a time_n of_o the_o church_n when_o by_o mean_n of_o valens_n the_o emperor_n that_o degenerate_v from_o the_o catholic_n faith_n heretic_n do_v more_o prevail_v etc._n etc._n again_o he_o oppose_v augustine_n unto_o nazianzene_n and_o say_v it_o be_v most_o true_a which_o augustine_n say_v epist_n 118._o that_o the_o authority_n of_o synod_n in_o the_o church_n of_o god_n be_v most_o wholesome_a which_o certain_o he_o will_v not_o have_v say_v if_o he_o have_v be_v of_o the_o same_o mind_n with_o nazianzen_n and_o further_o he_o oppose_v unto_o the_o speech_n of_o nazianz._n the_o testimony_n of_o christ_n say_v christ_n himself_o pronounce_v and_o promise_v matt._n 18.20_o where_o two_o or_o three_o be_v assemble_v together_o in_o his_o name_n there_o he_o will_v be_v in_o the_o midst_n of_o they_o in_o which_o word_n he_o signifi_v that_o the_o assembly_n and_o synod_n of_o godly_a and_o religious_a man_n undertake_v and_o appoint_v for_o godly_a cause_n be_v not_o displease_v unto_o he_o iii_o the_o testimony_n of_o nazianzen_n be_v as_o much_o against_o the_o opinion_n of_o mr_n can_n and_o mr_n dau._n as_o against_o that_o which_o we_o hold_v touch_v class_n and_o synod_n for_o see_v they_o allow_v such_o meeting_n for_o counsel_n and_o admonition_n though_o not_o for_o exercise_v of_o any_o jurisdiction_n and_o see_v the_o testimony_n of_o nazian_n do_v extend_v itself_o to_o all_o kind_n of_o assembly_n of_o bishop_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d whether_o for_o counsel_n or_o censure_n without_o exception_n of_o one_o sort_n more_o than_o another_o therefore_o he_o no_o more_o condemn_v our_o synod_n than_o those_o which_o my_o opposite_n allow_v augustine_n his_o next_o witness_n be_v in_o like_a manner_n pervert_v as_o the_o former_a though_o he_o in_o the_o place_n 17._o place_n dedoct_n chr._n l._n 1._o c._n 17._o object_v do_v write_v that_o the_o key_n be_v give_v to_o the_o church_n yet_o do_v he_o not_o thereby_o exclude_v synod_n gather_v together_o in_o the_o name_n of_o
and_o lesser_a poland_n in_o lithuania_n russia_n and_o samogitia_n have_v likewise_o show_v their_o consent_n with_o we_o in_o this_o point_n of_o subject_v particular_a church_n under_o the_o ecclesiastical_a authority_n of_o synod_n and_o have_v witness_v the_o same_o in_o divers_a solemn_a assembly_n they_o profess_v 19_o profess_v syntag._n confess_v par_fw-fr 2._o p._n 294._o syn._n posna_n 1570._o art_n 19_o that_o when_o controversy_n arise_v which_o can_v be_v compound_v among_o themselves_o the_o judgement_n and_o decree_n of_o a_o general_a synod_n of_o all_o their_o church_n be_v then_o to_o be_v require_v and_o to_o be_v submit_v unto_o they_o agree_v wlodisl_n agree_v ib._n p._n 300_o 303._o syn._n crac._n xans_n wlodisl_n that_o divers_a kind_n of_o synod_n be_v to_o be_v hold_v among_o they_o some_o great_a &_o some_o less_o that_o their_o synodical_a constitution_n be_v to_o be_v put_v in_o execution_n that_o the_o violatour_n thereof_o be_v to_o be_v subject_a unto_o the_o censure_n of_o deposition_n and_o excommunication_n etc._n etc._n they_o ordain_v 17._o ordain_v p._n 320-326_a syn._n toru_n 1591._o art_n 2_o 3_o 7.14_o 17._o that_o every_o evangelicall_n minister_n be_v not_o only_o to_o have_v and_o to_o read_v the_o canon_n of_o their_o synod_n but_o also_o to_o carry_v himself_o and_o to_o govern_v the_o church_n commit_v unto_o he_o according_a to_o the_o prescript_n thereof_o and_o that_o under_o pain_n of_o ecclesiastical_a censure_n that_o the_o censure_n of_o excommunication_n be_v to_o be_v administer_v public_o either_o in_o the_o congregation_n or_o in_o the_o synod_n etc._n etc._n moreover_o it_o be_v worthy_a to_o be_v remember_v how_o the_o church_n of_o the_o netherlands_o even_o at_o that_o time_n when_o they_o be_v scatter_v abroad_o in_o high-dutchland_a and_o eastfriestand_n in_o that_o time_n of_o most_o bloody_a persecution_n under_o the_o government_n of_o duke_n d'_fw-fr alva_n do_v then_o in_o their_o banishment_n and_o with_o danger_n of_o their_o life_n at_o home_n combine_v themselves_o in_o class_n for_o their_o mutual_a guidance_n and_o submit_v themselves_o unto_o the_o judgement_n of_o such_o assembly_n the_o distribution_n of_o these_o church_n into_o several_a class_n 10.11_o class_n synod_n embd._n an._n 1571._o art_n 10.11_o record_v public_o as_o follow_v i._o classis_fw-la the_o two_o church_n at_o frankford_n the_o church_n at_o schoenau_n at_o heydelbergh_n at_o franckendael_n at_o s._n lambert_n ii_o class_n the_o two_o church_n at_o collen_n the_o 2_o church_n at_o aken_n the_o church_n at_o maestricht_n at_o limburgh_n at_o nuys_n in_o gulick-land_n iii_o class_n the_o church_n of_o wesel_n of_o embrick_n of_o rees_n of_o goch_n of_o gennep_n and_o other_o in_o cleveland_n iv_o class_n the_o church_n of_o embden_n with_o stranger_n of_o brabant_n holland_n west-friestland_a v._o class_n the_o 2_o church_n at_o antwerp_n the_o church_n at_o '_o shertoghen-bosch_a at_o breda_n at_o brussel_n and_o other_o in_o brabant_n vi_o class_n the_o church_n at_o gant_n at_o ronsen_n at_o oudenard_n at_o comen_fw-fr and_o other_o in_o east_n and_o west-flanders_n vii_o class_n the_o church_n of_o doornick_n of_o ryssel_n of_o atrecht_n of_o armentier_n of_o valencienne_n and_o other_o church_n of_o walloen_n viii_o class_n the_o church_n of_o amsterdam_n of_o delft_n other_o church_n of_o holland_n of_o overyssel_a of_o west-friesland_n the_o faithful_a minister_n and_o people_n of_o these_o primitive_a reform_a church_n the_o martyr_n &_o witness_n of_o christ_n like_o the_o woman_n that_o flee_v into_o the_o wilderness_n from_o the_o rage_n of_o the_o dragon_n have_v give_v special_a testimony_n unto_o this_o classical_a government_n whereunto_o they_o submit_v themselves_o even_o in_o those_o hard_a time_n when_o it_o be_v difficult_a &_o dangerous_a for_o they_o to_o meet_v together_o as_o the_o dutch_a church_n practise_v among_o themselves_o of_o old_a so_o they_o in_o the_o forementioned_a synod_n by_o common_a advise_v agree_v 12._o agree_v synod_n embd._n art_n 12._o to_o exhort_v the_o english_a that_o they_o will_v combine_v their_o church_n into_o a_o classis_fw-la and_o according_o this_o order_n of_o government_n be_v approve_v by_o they_o as_o appear_v in_o that_o book_n of_o their_o discipline_n frame_v for_o the_o use_n of_o the_o english_a church_n in_o these_o country_n where_o it_o be_v say_v in_o the_o end_n edit_n end_n form_n of_o comm._n prayer_n administr_n etc._n etc._n print_v at_o middleb_n 1602_o the_o 4._o edit_n this_o may_v be_v sufficient_a for_o particular_a congregation_n for_o the_o visitation_n whereof_o and_o decision_n of_o cause_n which_o can_v be_v end_v among_o they_o and_o such_o like_a meeting_n conference_n &_o synod_n of_o minister_n and_o elder_n choose_v by_o particular_a church_n and_o meeting_n be_v to_o be_v hold_v as_o the_o minister_n for_o time_n and_o place_n and_o other_o circumstance_n shall_v think_v meet_a with_o a._n with_o ibid._n p._n d_o 7._o b._n &_o 8._o a_o b._n &_o f_o 3._o a._n consent_n and_o allowance_n of_o these_o minister_n of_o such_o class_n or_o conference_n together_o with_o consent_n of_o the_o eldership_n be_v the_o pastor_n and_o teacher_n of_o particular_a congregation_n to_o be_v elect_v and_o then_o the_o name_n of_o such_o be_v signify_v to_o the_o congregation_n for_o inquiry_n after_o their_o fitness_n warning_n be_v give_v that_o if_o within_o twenty_o day_n no_o just_a exception_n be_v take_v than_o their_o silence_n shall_v be_v account_v as_o the_o free_a consent_n of_o the_o congregation_n etc._n etc._n to_o conclude_v beside_o the_o testimony_n of_o reform_a church_n several_o &_o apart_o it_o shall_v not_o be_v amiss_o to_o behold_v the_o harmony_n of_o their_o joint_a consent_n in_o the_o deputy_n of_o the_o say_a church_n assemble_v together_o in_o the_o nationall_n synod_n of_o dort_n than_o which_o it_o be_v right_o judge_v that_o 3._o that_o molin_n anat._v armin_n praef_n a_o 3._o there_o have_v not_o be_v for_o many_o age_n past_a any_o synod_n more_o renown_v or_o more_o holy_a or_o more_o profitable_a to_o the_o church_n when_o as_o the_o remonstrant_n upon_o pretence_n of_o partiality_n &_o schism_n in_o their_o judge_n seek_v to_o decline_v the_o authority_n &_o sentence_n of_o this_o synod_n the_o divine_n of_o other_o nation_n depute_v from_o several_a church_n have_v give_v such_o judgement_n thereof_o as_o show_v a_o plain_a condemnation_n of_o my_o opposite_n opinion_n the_o judgement_n of_o the_o divine_n of_o great_a britain_n who_o allege_v the_o perpetual_a practice_n of_o all_o church_n be_v this_o that_o 97._o that_o act._n syn._n nat._n dordr_n sess_n 29._o p._n 97._o the_o high_a power_n of_o determine_v controversy_n in_o every_o church_n be_v in_o the_o nationall_n synod_n lawful_o call_v together_o &_o frame_a etc._n etc._n the_o judgement_n of_o divine_n out_o of_o the_o palatinate_n be_v like_a unto_o the_o former_a they_o 98._o they_o ibid._n p._n 98._o allege_v the_o practice_n of_o the_o church_n both_o in_o the_o old_a &_o new_a testament_n for_o confirmation_n thereof_o and_o show_v their_o own_o practice_n to_o have_v be_v such_o that_o some_o author_n of_o novelty_n be_v admonish_v first_o of_o their_o classis_fw-la and_o then_o of_o the_o ecclesiastical_a senate_n and_o be_v refractory_a be_v then_o dismiss_v that_o be_v depose_v from_o their_o place_n the_o divine_n of_o hassia_n agree_v with_o the_o former_a and_o upon_o the_o like_a ground_n they_o 100_o they_o ibid._n p._n 100_o show_v the_o practice_n of_o their_o own_o church_n that_o for_o the_o repress_v of_o the_o error_n of_o the_o vbiquitarian_n divers_a nationall_n synod_n have_v be_v hold_v by_o authority_n of_o the_o four_o brethren_n prince_n of_o hassia_n and_o that_o since_o again_o the_o prince_n maurice_n landgrave_n of_o hassia_n have_v call_v another_o general_a synod_n 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use_v to_o express_v the_o dignity_n and_o authority_n of_o civil_a governor_n psal_n 82.1_o exo._n 21.6_o &_o 22.8_o 1._o sam._n 2.25_o etc._n etc._n be_v also_o give_v to_o ecclesiastical_a officer_n to_o declare_v &_o signify_v the_o authority_n that_o they_o have_v though_o mr_n robinson_n 135._o robinson_n justif_n of_o sep._n p._n 135._o deny_v this_o title_n also_o unto_o they_o yet_o if_o we_o diligent_o weigh_v what_o the_o scripture_n say_v we_o may_v well_o discern_v that_o this_o title_n be_v also_o give_v to_o church-governors_n &_o minister_n for_o 1._o the_o description_n of_o those_o person_n to_o who_o this_o title_n be_v give_v be_v that_o they_o be_v such_o to_o who_o the_o word_n of_o god_n come_v such_o as_o the_o father_n have_v sanctify_v &_o send_v joh._n 10.35_o 36._o and_o therefore_o according_a to_o the_o exposition_n of_o our_o saviour_n see_v the_o word_n of_o god_n be_v come_v unto_o ecclesiastical_a minister_n &_o ruler_n give_v they_o thereby_o a_o 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chaldee_n paraphra_v upon_o those_o place_n where_o this_o title_n of_o god_n be_v give_v to_o moses_n translate_v it_o rab_n a_o master_n or_o doctor_n which_o be_v such_o a_o word_n as_o be_v give_v unto_o ecclesiastical_a minister_n other_o 22.28_o other_o aben_n ezra_n come_v on_o exo._n 22.28_o of_o the_o learnede_a jew-doctours_a do_v expound_v that_o title_n of_o the_o priest_n &_o levite_n &_o so_o apply_v it_o to_o church-governors_n another_o 22.28_o another_o baal_n hatturim_fw-la on_o exo._n 22.28_o cabalist_n often_o allege_v in_o your_o annotation_n do_v show_v these_o god_n mention_v in_o exo._n 22._o to_o be_v all_o kind_n of_o ruler_n over_o the_o people_n by_o his_o gematria_n because_o the_o numeral_a letter_n of_o the_o word_n elohim_n venasi_fw-la yield_v the_o same_o number_n with_o these_o hu_o dajan_n vecol_fw-mi shehu_fw-mi signify_v judge_n of_o
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