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of_o confession_n that_o they_o see_v not_o any_o colourable_a reason_n of_o doubt_n yet_o they_o pray_v his_o lordship_n in_o who_o power_n it_o be_v with_o a_o word_n speak_v or_o rather_o not_o speak_v a_o word_n not_o to_o bring_v they_o into_o further_a trouble_n than_o they_o have_v be_v in_o his_o predecessor_n time_n and_o before_o and_o for_o their_o temporal_a state_n they_o see_v well_o enough_o all_o my_o lord_n advise_v will_v nothing_o avail_v they_o so_o long_o as_o he_o have_v the_o authority_n he_o challenge_v beside_o that_o in_o their_o temporal_a matter_n they_o can_v better_o advise_v themselves_o than_o any_o man_n else_o can_v that_o be_v their_o own_o element_n and_o last_o for_o the_o not_o believe_v evil_a speech_n against_o the_o
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strain_n be_v here_o oh_o my_o lord_n bishop_n will_n the_o divine_a say_v speak_v only_o of_o his_o authority_n to_o urge_v approbation_n of_o regulars_n true_a that_o be_v the_o occasion_n indeed_o but_o do_v not_o his_o lordship_n by_o that_o occasion_n challenge_v the_o absolute_a and_o full_a power_n which_o a_o ordinary_a have_v or_o may_v have_v do_v not_o all_o that_o he_o bring_v prove_v his_o ordinaryship_n absolute_a without_o limitation_n of_o cause_n or_o person_n if_o his_o proof_n be_v good_a may_v not_o layman_n plain_o say_v my_o lord_n mean_v more_o of_o they_o who_o he_o take_v to_o be_v his_o proper_a subject_n â—hen_o of_o they_o who_o be_v exempt_a and_o if_o his_o lordship_n have_v mean_v only_o to_o claim_v authority_n over_o regulars_n in_o the_o matter_n of_o approbation_n he_o may_v have_v answer_v plain_o and_o precise_o restrain_v all_o to_o they_o but_o i_o shall_v have_v occasion_n to_o speak_v more_o of_o this_o by_o and_o by_o the_o 4._o argument_n of_o passion_n be_v that_o they_o deny_v my_o lord_n bishop_n all_o authority_n not_o only_o temporal_a but_o spiritual_a and_o under_o pretence_n of_o their_o temporal_a fortune_n they_o will_v be_v oues_fw-la sine_fw-la pastore_n if_o i_o will_v be_v captious_a with_o this_o divine_a i_o can_v ask_v he_o where_o this_o letter_n deny_v my_o lord_n bishop_n to_o be_v ordinary_a or_o where_o it_o speak_v of_o his_o lordship_n temporal_a authority_n but_o i_o will_v not_o press_v he_o further_o in_o that_o but_o for_o his_o spiritual_a authority_n or_o rather_o the_o power_n in_o fore_n interno_fw-la for_o indeed_o all_o the_o power_n of_o a_o bishop_n as_o he_o be_v a_o bishop_n be_v spiritual_a speak_v proper_o where_o do_v they_o deny_v it_o or_o if_o they_o do_v not_o speak_v of_o it_o have_v no_o occasion_n and_o it_o be_v from_o the_o purpose_n do_v it_o follow_v that_o they_o deny_v it_o he_o may_v have_v that_o though_o he_o be_v no_o ordinary_a nor_o have_v power_n in_o foro_fw-la 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whether_o he_o have_v satisfy_v they_o or_o no._n well_o what_o passion_n be_v it_o for_o catholic_n to_o leave_v that_o that_o concern_v they_o not_o so_o immediate_o though_o it_o be_v the_o principal_a point_n and_o touch_v that_o which_o concern_v they_o more_o though_o it_o be_v but_o secondary_o intend_v to_o what_o end_n shall_v they_o take_v notice_n of_o satisfaction_n in_o a_o thing_n in_o which_o they_o need_v none_o as_o make_v no_o doubt_n of_o it_o for_o suppose_v there_o have_v be_v any_o little_a shadow_n of_o probability_n of_o my_o lord_n bishop_n pretence_n yet_o so_o many_o good_a and_o learned_a man_n as_o there_o be_v here_o of_o regulars_n nay_o and_o of_o all_o moderate_a and_o learned_a of_o the_o secular_a clergy_n affirm_v the_o contrary_a &_o even_o my_o lord_n bishop_n not_o venture_v to_o say_v to_o the_o contrary_a at_o least_o to_o some_o person_n but_o that_o confession_n make_v to_o regulars_n be_v good_a what_o doubt_n can_v any_o prudent_a man_n make_v of_o the_o validity_n of_o his_o confession_n the_o authority_n of_o any_o one_o or_o two_o learned_a man_n be_v sufficient_a for_o a_o wise_a man_n to_o lay_v aside_o all_o scruple_n of_o that_o kind_n what_o need_v therefore_o all_o that_o ado_n and_o the_o rather_o because_o it_o be_v a_o matter_n of_o learning_n they_o will_v not_o trouble_v themselves_o further_o then_o to_o desire_v his_o lordship_n not_o to_o put_v they_o to_o further_a trouble_n than_o his_o predecessor_n or_o himself_o have_v hitherto_o put_v they_o unto_o in_o which_o they_o show_v though_o not_o in_o express_a term_n how_o they_o be_v satisfy_v with_o his_o lordship_n letter_n in_o that_o point_n especial_o lay_v his_o authority_n of_o ordinary_a for_o ground_n of_o that_o claim_n what_o passion_n then_o be_v here_o but_o now_o if_o a_o man_n will_v stand_v upon_o it_o it_o may_v perhaps_o be_v prove_v that_o my_o lord_n do_v intend_v no_o less_o principal_o to_o declare_v his_o ordinaryship_n and_o by_o this_o occasion_n to_o make_v open_a challenge_n of_o his_o authority_n in_o that_o kind_n for_o what_o else_o do_v the_o great_a part_n of_o his_o letter_n pretend_v why_o do_v he_o write_v so_o large_o to_o the_o laity_n of_o a_o matter_n which_o do_v not_o so_o proper_o belong_v unto_o they_o but_o only_o to_o put_v needless_a scruple_n into_o their_o head_n and_o with_o all_o to_o make_v some_o answer_n to_o the_o laity_n who_o not_o long_o before_o have_v be_v very_o instant_a to_o know_v his_o authority_n more_o precise_o though_o his_o lordship_n can_v not_o be_v meet_v withal_o to_o have_v their_o demand_n deliver_v to_o himself_o but_o because_o these_o be_v conjecture_n i_o will_v not_o stand_v upon_o they_o only_o this_o i_o may_v say_v if_o his_o lordship_n intent_n have_v not_o be_v to_o claim_v that_o authority_n he_o may_v present_o have_v disclaim_v it_o and_o there_o have_v be_v a_o end_n the_o six_o argument_n of_o notorious_a passion_n our_o divine_a say_v be_v this_o that_o they_o incense_v the_o state_n against_o the_o bishop_n by_o say_v that_o the_o execution_n of_o the_o authority_n of_o this_o new_a tribunal_n will_v provoke_v the_o present_a governmeut_n unto_o a_o exact_a search_n after_o it_o and_o suppression_n thereof_o and_o so_o bring_v a_o clause_n of_o bulla_n coenae_fw-la to_o prove_v they_o excommunicate_v therefore_o &_o ask_v why_o else_o this_o letter_n be_v show_v to_o the_o king_n this_o be_v a_o strange_a point_n of_o divinity_n that_o a_o man_n shall_v incur_v excommunication_n for_o represent_v unto_o the_o bishop_n the_o danger_n which_o by_o claim_v such_o authority_n he_o bring_v upon_o himself_o and_o other_o man_n this_o be_v a_o thing_n allowable_a by_o the_o law_n of_o god_n and_o man_n and_o how_o then_o do_v it_o deserve_v excommunication_n be_v this_o to_o provoke_v the_o state_n to_o persecute_v no_o sure_o but_o to_o move_v the_o bishop_n not_o to_o provoke_v the_o state_n against_o himself_o and_o other_o 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