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The totall summe. Or No danger of damnation vnto Roman Catholiques for any errour in faith nor any hope of saluation for any sectary vvhatsoeuer that doth knovvingly oppose the doctrine of the Roman Church. This is proued by the confessions, and sayings of M. William Chillingvvorth his booke.
Floyd, John, 1572-1649.
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that some Protestants leauing the Roman Church haue fallen away by degrees euen from the Fundamentals of Christianity You answer p. 168. lin 9. What if some forsaking the Church of Rome haue forsaken fundamental truths Was this because they forsooke the Church of Rome No sure this is non causa pro causa For else all that haue forsaken that Church should haue done so which we say they haue not but because they went too farre from her The golden meane the narrow way is hard to be found hard to be kept hard but not impossible hard but yet you must not please your selues out of it though you erre on the right hand though you offend on the milder part for this is the only way that leades to life and few there be that find it It is true if we said there were no danger in being of the Roman Church and there were danger in leauing it it were MADNESSE to persuade any man to leaue it Thus you Before I come to the principall intent let me note and put you in mind of two thinges First that here as euery where also commonly you argue fondly that the cause why some forsaking the Roman Church forsook also the fundamentals of Christianity was not their forsaking the Roman Church For els say you all that haue forsaken her should haue done so An argument fond and full of ignorance Otherwise we might say that Couetousnesse was not the cause that Iudas betrayed his Maister for else all couetous seruants should betray their maisters which we know is not so we may say that zeale of Puritanisme was not the cause that Enoch ap euan murthered his Brother and Mother because many zealous Puritans do not murther their Brothers and mothers that oppose them These instances and a thousand more which might be brought lay open your ignorance that you do not distinguish betwixt naturall necessary causes whose force cannot be resisted and morall causes which freely incline the will leauing it liberty to resist which is the reason they are effectuall in some and not in others 7. Secondly I note that you also heere keepe your wont of contradicting your selfe What you heere say that the narrow and onely way to life and saluation is hard to be found hard to be kept without erring on the right hand or on the left how doth it agree with or how doth it not directly destroy what you teach pag. 221. lin 20. about your Protestant safewayÂ· This is a way so plaine that fooles except they will cannot erre from it because in this way not being free from errour but indeauouring to be free is the onely condition of Saluation How is not being free from errour but endeauouring to be free in your way the onely condition of Saluation if keeping the golden meane and the narrow way without erring eyther on the right hand or left be in your doctrine the sole meanes of Saluation How is the way so plaine that euen fooles vnlesse they will cannot erre from it if it be hard to be kept without erring on the right hand or left And pag. 290. n. 87. whereas the Maintayner sayth that Protestants should not haue left the Roman Church for errours vn-fundameÌtall seing they were not sure by their departure to auoyd this kind of mischiefe yea they were sure they could not auoyd it you say Protestants are so farre from acknowledging that they haue no hope to auoyd this mischiefe of errours vn-fundamentall that they proclayme to all the world that it is most prone and easy to do so to all those that feare God and loue truth and hardly possibly for them to do otherwise without supine negligence and extreme impiety How do these sayings hange together The golden meane of sauing truth the only way to life is hard difficile and only not impossible to be kept without erring from it eyther on the left hand Fundamentally or one the right vn-fundamentally The way of sauing truth is most prone and easy to be kept without erring so much as vn-fundamentally yea it is hardly possible to erre from it on eyther side without supine negligence and extreme impiety 8. But now to the Principall intent by this your confession it is euident that it is madnes for any man to to leaue the Roman Church and that your writing to perswade them to leaue it was a fit of distemper in your brayne For you confesse that if you sayd there were no danger in being of the Roman Church and there were danger in leauing it is were madnesse to persuade any man to leaue it Now I assume But you say both that there is no danger in the Roman Church and that there is extreme danger in leauing it That you say the first I proue because you say that he who belieues all Fundamentall truth cannot be damned for any errour in fayth And pag. 376. n. 57. he that belieues all necessary truth if his life be answerable to his fayth how is it possible he should fayle of Saluaton But you affirme that the Roman Church retaynes all fundamentall and necessary truth in that you onely charge her of going from the Golden meane of exact truth on the right hand on the surer part Wherfore in the Roman Church men may safely expect Saluation there is no danger yea there is no possibility of damnation for errours in faith with in her CommunioÌ That you say the second that there is extreme daÌger in leauing the Roman Church I shew eueÌ by this testimony For you say the Roman Church erreth on the right hand on the milder part so that they who leaue her must of necessity depart so farre from her on the left hand that is into the direfull gulfe of fundamentall errours except they keepe themselues in the golden meane in the narrow way But the golden meane the narrow way is as you professe hard to be found hard and onely not impossible to be kept Ergo in leauing the Roman Church there is danger and exceeding great danger which can hardly be auoyded of falling into errours fundamentall remedilessely and fatally damnable These being your CoÌfessions and otherwise of themselues manifest truths you must acknowledge it is euen madnesse and fury for any man to forsake the Roman Church and that your writing to diuert men from her Communion was a fit of phrensy That Protestants can neuer be sure that they belieue all fundamentall and necessary Truth Â§. 3. 9. IT being indispensably necessary vnto Saluation to know distinctly and in particular all Fundamental essentiall truthes how can Christian soules that be pious carefull of their eternity fearfull to fall into damnation euerlasting rest quiet or calme in conscience till they know an exact Catalogue of these Fundamentals that so they may be sure they know and belieue them distinctly and in particular Now Protestants neither do nor can agree vpon an exact Catalogue of their FundameÌtals nor wil tel their followers distinctly