Selected quad for the lemma: cause_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
cause_n	argument_n	faith_n	justification_n	1,485	5	9.6631	5	false

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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A92138	The divine right of church-government and excommunication: or a peacable dispute for the perfection of the holy scripture in point of ceremonies and church government; in which the removal of the Service-book is justifi'd, the six books of Tho: Erastus against excommunication are briefly examin'd; with a vindication of that eminent divine Theod: Beza against the aspersions of Erastus, the arguments of Mr. William Pryn, Rich: Hooker, Dr. Morton, Dr. Jackson, Dr. John Forbes, and the doctors of Aberdeen; touching will-worship, ceremonies, imagery, idolatry, things indifferent, an ambulatory government; the due and just powers of the magistrate in matters of religion, and the arguments of Mr. Pryn, in so far as they side with Erastus, are modestly discussed. To which is added, a brief tractate of scandal ... / By Samuel Rutherfurd, Professor of Divinity in the University of St. Andrews in Scotland. Published by authority.	Rutherford, Samuel, 1600?-1661.	1646 (1646)	Wing R2377; Thomason E326_1; ESTC R200646	722,457	814

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absalon_n his_o sinful_a neglect_n in_o not_o punish_v his_o murder_n i_o yield_v for_o absalon_n be_v never_o in_o david_n power_n to_o punish_v after_o he_o commit_v that_o incest_n possible_o he_o neglect_v to_o punish_v his_o own_o concubine_n that_o be_v but_o a_o conjecture_n it_o be_v as_o like_o absalon_n force_v the_o concubine_n to_o that_o incest_n as_o any_o other_o thing_n 3._o for_o that_o psal_n 14._o there_o be_v none_o that_o do_v good_a it_o be_v speak_v of_o the_o natural_a corruption_n of_o all_o mankind_n who_o therefore_o can_v be_v justify_v by_o the_o work_n of_o the_o law_n as_o paul_n expound_v it_o rom._n 3._o 9_o 10_o 11_o 19_o 20_o 21._o and_o not_o of_o scandal_n punishable_a by_o the_o magistrate_n and_o where_o this_o corruption_n do_v break_v out_o in_o blood_n within_o the_o church_n it_o ought_v to_o have_v be_v punish_v both_o by_o the_o magistrate_n and_o church_n so_o it_o be_v a_o argument_n yet_o a_o facto_fw-la ad_fw-la jus_o and_o a_o great_a inconsequence_n 4._o i_o ask_v for_o what_o cause_n do_v the_o spirit_n of_o god_n rebuke_n kill_v of_o the_o child_n to_o molech_n and_o come_v that_o same_o day_n to_o the_o temple_n because_o it_o be_v a_o sin_n and_o particular_o a_o profane_v of_o the_o sanctuary_n which_o be_v one_o special_a holy_a thing_n to_o god_n ezek._n 23._o 38_o 39_o jer._n 7._o 8_o 9_o 10_o 11._o it_o be_v no_o sin_n to_o come_v to_o the_o temple_n sure_o it_o be_v command_v of_o god_n in_o his_o law_n as_o erastus_n yield_v what_o be_v the_o sin_n then_o to_o come_v with_o their_o hand_n full_a of_o blood_n and_o of_o the_o unnatural_a blood_n of_o their_o own_o child_n be_v the_o sin_n and_o yet_o if_o they_o have_v repent_v to_o come_v after_o they_o have_v kill_v their_o child_n be_v

to_o the_o jew_n if_o it_o be_v a_o matter_n of_o wrong_n and_o wicked_a lewdness_n o_o you_o jew_n reason_n be_v that_o i_o shall_v bear_v with_o you_o 15._o but_o if_o it_o be_v a_o question_n of_o word_n and_o name_n and_o of_o your_o law_n look_v you_o to_o it_o for_o i_o will_v be_v no_o judge_n of_o such_o matter_n ergo_fw-la to_o the_o roman_n all_o the_o blasphemy_n of_o the_o jewish_a law_n be_v not_o a_o matter_n of_o wicked_a lewdness_n nor_o of_o death_n now_o the_o story_n be_v clear_a they_o be_v seek_v paul_n life_n and_o for_o name_n and_o word_n the_o jew_n shall_v not_o reach_v paul_n nor_o move_v the_o roman_n to_o put_v to_o death_n a_o roman_a except_o they_o can_v prove_v sedition_n or_o treason_n against_o he_o and_o act_n 25._o festus_n say_v to_o agrippa_n that_o the_o priest_n and_o elder_n desire_v to_o have_v judgement_n against_o paul_n 18._o but_o against_o he_o they_o bring_v no_o accusation_n of_o such_o thing_n as_o i_o suppose_v 19_o but_o have_v 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