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A84751 Foure speeches delivered in Guild-Hall on Friday the sixth of October, 1643. At a common-hall, vpon occasion of desiring the assistance of our brethren of Scotland in this warre. / Viz. the [brace] 1. by Mr. Solicitor. 2. by Mr. Edmund Calamy. 3. by Mr. Jeremiah Burroughes. 4. by Mr. Obadiah Sedgewick. Published according to order. Gardiner, Thomas, Sir, 1591-1652.; Calamy, Edmund, 1600-1666.; Burroughs, Jeremiah, 1599-1646.; Sedgwick, Obadiah, 1600?-1658. 1646 (1646) Wing F1671; Thomason E338_1; ESTC R200837 38,460 48

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that have been made by the Worthy Citizens of this City and by divers other well-affected persons throughout the Kingdome the Money the Plate the Horses and other things for this Warre too they will bee lost but not onely so but certainly that these have been lent to the Parliament for the maintaining of the Warre against that Party this will b●e good reason why they should take all away The publike Faith likewise of both Houses of Parliament and so the whole Kingdome certainly that must be violated and if that should bee so if that we should be ove●born in this cause it will easily be foreseene whether any future Parliament will be enabled to stand up for the defence of Religion and the Liberties of the People Wee may adde to this the Charters and the Franchises of this great City it will be easily foreseen what will be the event of that whether they wil be continued to you yea or no considering what affection you have born to this cause Certainly in former time● the Charters and the priviledges of this City they have been confirmed by Parliaments as doth appear in King Johns time in Henry the third Richard second always after the ending of those great Wars whe●in no doubt the City as hath been seen in that did engage themselves as now in the Parliaments cause therefore for their security their Charters were alwayes confirmed which wee need not doubt will be done in this cause but in case the event should bee otherwise what the losse will be in that way you may easily see so that all is at stake and if we bring not them in to our assistance for ought I know we are at fairs to lose the game as win●● it and if any mana estate here stood upon the like c●su●lty I believe hee would give some considerable summe to ensure it in the office of Policies Thus we stand in case they are no● called in the losse so great that is the losse of all the event so uncertaine In case they be called in we are to consider then what alteration this is like to make we are therefore to consider how it comes about that the Party comes to be so equall that so many should engage themselves on the other Party as we see they doe certainly a great many of them doe it being uncertaine in their judgements to which side to cleave Another Party they doe it because that they out of feare desire to keep their Estates and stand Neuters For the first of those certainly both at home and abroad those that are averse they looke upon us as a Protestant Kingdom but divided among our selves they heare Protestations on both sides that both Parties doe protest to maintaine the Protestant Religion the Laws of the Kingdome and the Liberty of the Subject and they see and read the Declarations that goe out on both sides and the matter of fact being that that makes the cause they know not what to believe of that for when they read the severall Declarations they see that affirmed by one party that is denyed of the other so that indeed they know not which way to bend themselves to beleeve of the matter of fact I meane But now a great many after the case hath been stated as it hath been on both sides b● these Declarations when they shall see that this Kingdome of Scotland to which Declarations have been sent by both Parties for so they have the King hath sent on his side and the Parliament hath sent on their side also when they shall see the Kingdome of ●cotland hath sent a Committee into this Kingdom to informe themselves of the businesse how it stood to the intent they might know how to carry themselves between both Parties I say when after all this they shall see a whole Protestant Kingdom as one Man a Protestant Kingdome that hath had differences heretofore and those differences have beene setled when they have beene in the same distractions as wee have and so setled as that it hath beene with a cleare Declaration of their innocencies that they had just cause to doe what they had dont and went away as they did with that full satisfaction they have given to the world I say when they shall see such men as have for so long a time stood by as a third Party and Spectators onely and lookens on when they shall see a Kingdome that is altogether unbyass'd that hath the same King lives in the same Island that hath the same Religion I say when they shall behold a whole Kingdome to declare for the one Party that is for our Party when they shall see them not onely doe so but enter into a League and Covenant and that by oath with us for the maintaining of this Religion when they shall see them engaging their whole Kingdome as one man in a War for the maintaining of this cause I say certainly that must bee a convincing silencing argument to all these men that this is the Party that doth maintain really and in truth the true Protestant Religion the Laws of the Realme and the Liberties of the Subject That is for the first The second is there is another Party that are well enough satisfied in their judgements but out of feare of their estates and other sinister by and base ends for so they may be called for as this Covenant calls it a detestable Neutrality so may wee I say when these Parties shall see such an addition of strength to the one side their owne principles of feare will reach them to goe to that that is the stronger side But admitting that men stood in their judgments and in Neutrality as they now doe and that their comming in did not alter one man yet we are to consider what the strength is that they doe bring in wi●h them and what that is like to doe admitting the parties to bee as equally engaged as now they be and that is by their owne Propositions that when they come in they intend to come in with 18000 Foot with 1000 Dragoneers and 2000 Horse with 21000 Horse and Foot with a Traine of Artillery proportionable and suitable to such an Army Certainly by the blessing of God such a force to bee added to the one Party that is now even it cannot but in all likelihood cary down the scales and alter the whole ●ame and the state of the businesse Why certainly two against one in all ●usinesses that makes oddes If we have the addition of that whole Kingdome to this Party that is even with the other or neare so now wee may easily judge of the event This is the first benefit I shall propound to you wee are like to reap by their comming in that is the assuring of this great cause that so much conc●●nes us The second is this which I shall propound to you that is that it will bee for our profit that it will ease the Warre that it will make
the charge and the burthen of it to 〈◊〉 This doth arise partly out of what hath been said that their comming in it will shorten the Warre for as long as the parties ar● equall it must needes lengthen and protract the Warre when two scales are almost equally ballanced wee know for a great while it falls on the right hand and on the left hand and it is a great while before they stand still so that if the War bee protracted and lengthened that will bee spent in time and a great deal more then a good round summe will be in making a sudden conclusion of it I think every Lessee hee had rather pay a good round Fine than for many ●●ers together to sit upon a great Rent this may bee our condition if wee doe not bring them in besides the losse of all at last But the benefit will appear by the shortning of the Warre in this further By those miseries and that poverty and that calamity which a long Warre must of necessity bring with it The wealth of this Kingdome I suppose it arises out of the soyle and the ground of the Kingdom and it arises out of the M●nufactures and out of the Trade of the Kingdom These again do consist principally in Rents and in Debts certainly Debtors by having their estates plundered and wholly taken away from them and the lives from many debts will cease there will bee no debts to bee paid the same will bee likewise of Rents when the Cattle shall bee killed up and the Tenants plundered of all they have there will bee no Rents paid How will it bee like if the Warres continue that the Trade will bee continued for the materialls of Trade by a long Warre will bee wholly destroyed and taken from us The Sheep of the Kingdom that bring our Woall and the Horses and the Cattle that bring our Leather and our Tallow these three the Wooll Leather and Tallow and divers other things wee know how many hundred Trades even from the greatest Merchant to the lowest Handicrafts-man how many they imploy these they will bee destroyed not onely by the consumption which the Souldier makes that is wastefull but even the policy of Warre will require of the Enemy as wee see of late about Gloucester in the Vale of Esum the policy of War will cause I say one party ●o kill and destroy all Cattle when the necessity of Warre r●qui●●●●t to s●arve out the Enemy Besides the daily losse of Towns and Cities what a losse will that bee to Trading and in particular to this City I beleeve it is a sensible thing to many of you the ●aking o●●●●ter the taking of Bris●o● and the Trade of Newcastle stopped and some other Cities what a great losse even in point of debt it hath been to many worthy Citizens of this City Besides a long Warre it will consume the very materialls of life of food and rayment wee shall neither have meat drink nor cloathing if the War con●inue considering the burnings and devastations that goe along with it so that for my own part I think it is a very clear case that wee had better buy out with a round summe a short War then to have a long War continued though it bee without any charge at all If all our horse and foot and trayn of Artillery and Garrisons were all paid to our hand wee had better buy a short Peace by bringing them in than to have a long War without charge because of that inevitable poverty that a long War must needs bring to a Kingdom this first thing that I have offered is in point of time the shortening of Warre the Benefit and Profit that it will bee to the Kingdome Secondly Wee all know this Warre hath contracted a great debt upon the Kingdom and it will contract farre more In case this shall bee hereafter to bee paid in sheere Money and Coyn I am afraid the Kingdom is not able to pay it at once I beleeve that all men know Suppose this then shall bee appointed to bee paid at certain yeers and times what will bee the event of that I am afraid the destruction of the Kingdom for then the case will bee thus the greatest part of the Lords and Gentry are ingaged in the other way and here lies a great debt annually to bee paid by the Kingdom and certainly this will disaffect people to all other Parliaments when they shall yeerly bee under the payments of such mo●eys that the Parliament hath contracted upon them And then considering who it is will operate upon the other party for there is another party that will not bee easily reconciled to the party that hath been on the other side and so this other party striking in the other way what this is like to produce is very dangerous to mee whereas on the other side as long as the parties are equally engaged as wee are without their comming I am afraid there will not bee that force on the one side as to make the other side that is the Papists and the Prelates and the other Malignants out of their estates to pay these debts which their comming in in all likelihood will make us doe which if these debts bee paid out of their estates and Lands I know no inconvenience will come to the Kingdom by it for here is the case they that have it now in their hands to imploy i● for the destruction of the Kingdom it will bee onely putting it in their hands that shew their good affections to the Kingdom so that way I conceive the debt of the Kingdom will bee no losse at all to the Kingdom The third benefit is that even the present War it will bee made lesse chargeable to us and that in this They not being come in wee have not Newcastle there is Nottingh●mshire York●●●ir● that great Country a great part of L●●●olnshire the Bishopri●● of D●rham Northumberland Co●●m●erland W●●●merland the great●●● part of the West the richest part I know in this Kingdom except this City I say in case they come not in they are all under contribution to the other side their comming in gaines New●●●●le it gaines as much as the money to bring them in will cost 〈◊〉 the very gaining of that Town and likewise when they come in it brings all those Countries under contribution so that the very contribution that those Northern Countries will yeeld it will not only pay the Scotch Army but is likely as it is beleeved it will make an addition for our other For●●s that wee shall have to spare for other Forces by that which their comming in will gain of the con●ributions of those 〈◊〉 so that I have now done with those 〈◊〉 that will come ●o you in point of Profit and likewise the assuring of this great Cause The third is this that 〈◊〉 w●● doe come to a peace when Gods time is come that wee shall have one yet their co●ming in in all 〈◊〉 i● will
they are to continue three moneths and ten dayes in your Service after they come into your Kingdome after the payment of this 100000 l. so that there is full three moneths and ten dayes for these Counties to lie open to the repayment of this Mony for those three moneths they are to be without pay These are the principall things that wee have yet thought upon for the dis-ingaging of us that wee tender to you there are divers others which the Committee hath taken into consideration which they see as much or more certainty in than in any of these that hath been propounded If it were no more than the Publique Faith of both Kingdoms as long as the Kingdoms subsist or the Cause thrives in the hands of one or other this must bee dis-ingaged so that at best it is but a Loan and must bee paid if the Cause survive truely if it doe not survive it being our Religion I know not what reason wee have 〈◊〉 desire to survive it and if wee lose it I am sure wee lose all Truly Gentlemen thus I have but one word more to say The Cause it is Gods if it bee not so let us repent that ever wee medled with it It is the Cause of our Countrey if it bee not so let us now say wee repent and leave it It is the Cause of these three Kingdomes England Ireland and Scotland it is the Cause of Christendom for if this Cause be carryed against us certainly the Protestant Cause throughout all Europe will fare the worse for it this is the Cause this we all know to be the Cause It hath pleased Almighty God out of his Providence to call even us poor creatures to be the managers of this great cause of his we have undertaken it we have formerly by our Protestations engaged our selves to the maintaining of it wee have all of us both Parliament City and all well-affected Subjects of this Kingdom wee have put our shoulders to it wee have of late manifested to God and all the world that wee doe not repent of what wee have done wee have entred into a Solemn League and Covenant I think the solemnest that ever was seen in this Kingdom Gentlemen thus let our cheerfulnesse in this service shew that wee have taken that Covenant and doe affect this businesse with our whole hearts I have done Pray God give his blessing Mr. Edmond Calamy his speech in Guild-hall on Friday the sixt of October 1643. Gentlemen YOU have heard a worthy Gentleman of the House of Commons it is desired by this grave and Reverend Assembly of Ministers that three of the Ministers of this Assembly should likewise speak unto you concerning this great businesse and notwithstanding my indisposition of body being required by them though that Gentleman of the House of Commons hath spoken so abundantly to the purpose yet notwithstanding I am here come to speak something the rather to declare my willingnesse to appear in this Cause that is every way so just and every way so honest and so good that I may truly say as the Martyr did that if I had as many lives as I have haires on my head I would bee willing to sacrifice all these lives in this Cause You know the story of Craesus that though hee never spake in his life yet when hee saw his Father ready to bee killed it untyed the strings of his tongue and then hee cryed out that they would not kill his Father you are not ignorant that England and Ireland lye a dying and though I never appeared in this place yet I blesse God that hath given mee that health this day to speak something in this Cause for the reviving of the dying condition of England and Ireland It is such a Cause as is able to make a very Infant eloquent and a dumb man to speak that never spake in all his life The matter I am desired to speak to is concerning the Contribution to perswade you to bee liberall towards the bringing in of the Scots to help us in this our great necessity The truth is it is a great shame that England should stand in need of another Nation to help it to preserve its Religion and Liberties That England that hath been enriched with the Gospel of Peace and the peace of the Gospel for so many yeers that England that hath been blessed with so many rare Ministers of God so many precious and powerfull servants that have preached the Word of God in season and out of season that England that hath professed the Gospel with so much power and purity that England should stand in need of the help of their Brethren of Scotland for to preserve that Gospel that they have professed so many yeers I confesse to mee it seems a very strange Prodigie and a strange wonder but it hath pleased Almighty God for the sins of England for our great unthankfulnesse and for our unthankfulnesse under these means and for the great blood-guiltinesse and Idolatry and Superstition of this Nation it hath pleased God to suffer a great part of the Kingdom to bee blinded especially those parts where the Word of God hath not been preached in a powerfull manner and there are many in the Kingdom that will not bee perswaded that there is an intention to bring in Popery and to bring in Slavery Many of them I say think that though the Popish Army should prevaile and the plundering Army should prevaile yet they think all would goe well with Religion and with their Liberties I say it hath pleased God to suffer abundance in the Kingdom to bee blinded with this opinion out of a just judgement to punish us for our unthankfulnesse and for our ingratitude and this is the reason that so many men stand Neuters and that so many are Malignants and disaffected to this great Cause in so much that I am concluded under this that there is little probability to finish this Cause without the comming in of the Scots as you heard so worthily by that Member of the House of Commons The sons of Zerviah are grown so strong what through our fearfulnesse what through our covetousnesse what through our malignity that there is little hope I say to finish this great Cause or to bring it to a desired peace without the help of another Nation and by the assistance of God by the help of another Nation it may be done These are two mighty two omnipotent Arguments to prevaile with you to contribute your utmost aide and assistance to that Cause since it cannot speedily bee done without their help by Gods blessing it may speedily be don by their help What would the Kings party doe if they could engage another Nation to their help 21000. if they could engage them to our ruine what would they not doe How much more should wee be willing to contribute our greatest help to engage a Nation that indeed is part of our own Nation within the same Island