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ancient_a counsel_n &_o church_n sect._n 2._o chap._n viii_o iii_o argument_n be_v take_v from_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o catholic_a church_n itself_o in_o her_o general_n counsel_n sect._n 1_o prove_v that_o the_o now_o roman_a article_n false_o damn_v the_o father_n of_o the_o council_n of_o nice_a sect._n 2._o the_o father_n of_o the_o first_o council_n of_o constantinople_n sect._n 3_o the_o father_n of_o the_o council_n of_o ephesus_n sect._n 4._o the_o father_n of_o the_o council_n of_o chalcedon_n sect._n 5._o the_o father_n of_o the_o second_o council_n of_o constantinople_n sect._n 6._o the_o father_n of_o the_o six_o and_o seven_o general_n counsel_n which_o condemn_v pope_n honorius_n for_o a_o heretic_n sect._n 7._o the_o father_n of_o the_o eight_o general_n council_n sect._n 8._o chap._n ix_o iv._o argument_n be_v take_v from_o the_o judgement_n of_o particular_a ancient_a and_o godly_a church_n which_o be_v opposite_a to_o the_o pretend_a jurisdiction_n of_o rome_n and_o concern_v her_o excommunication_n by_o diverse_a instance_n §_o 1._o 1._o instance_n prove_v that_o she_o by_o she_o now_o roman_a article_n false_o damn_v the_o church_n of_o asia_n and_o their_o catholic_a bishop_n in_o the_o day_n of_o pope_n victor_n sect._n 2._o 2._o false_o damn_v the_o catholic_a church_n of_o africa_n numidia_n &_o mauritania_n in_o the_o day_n of_o saint_n cyprian_n sect._n 3_o yea_o and_o saint_n cyprian_n himself_o sect._n 4.5.6.7_o 3._o false_o damn_v the_o church_n of_o africa_n in_o the_o day_n of_o s._n augustine_n yea_o and_o saint_n augustine_n himself_o sect._n 8.9.10.11.12_o 4._o false_o damn_v the_o catholic_a church_n of_o britain_n with_o the_o scottish_a irish_a etc._n etc._n in_o the_o day_n of_o s._n gregory_n sect._n 15.16_o chap._n x._o v._o a_o argument_n be_v because_o by_o this_o now_o roman_a article_n be_v false_o damn_v the_o most_o catholic_a emperor_n who_o ancient_o oppose_v the_o now_o pretend_v papal_a dominion_n confess_v sect._n 1_o instance_n in_o the_o confess_v opposition_n of_o constantine_n the_o great_a theodosius_n the_o elder_a theodosius_n the_o young_a and_o justinian_n sect._n 2.3_o etc._n etc._n the_o due_a estimation_n of_o these_o emperor_n sect._n 4._o chap._n xi_o vi_o argument_n because_o the_o same_o roman_a article_n false_o damn_v the_o first_o and_o best_a and_o indeed_o most_o catholic_a pope_n of_o rome_n who_o acknowledge_v subjection_n to_o the_o emperor_n of_o their_o time_n as_o well_o ethnike_fw-gr as_o christian._n sect._n 1.2.3.4.5_o chap._n xii_o vii_o argument_n because_o the_o same_o roman_a article_n false_o damn_v the_o most_o worthy_a servant_n of_o god_n who_o name_n be_v register_v for_o martyr_n and_o saint_n in_o the_o now_o calendar_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n or_o in_o the_o roman_a martyrologe_n viz._n s._n polycarpus_n sect._n 1_o s._n cyprian_n sect._n 2._o s._n athanasius_n sect._n 3._o s._n basil._n sect._n 4._o s._n hilary_n of_o poictou_n sect._n 5._o saint_n hierome_n sect._n 6._o s._n ambrose_n sect._n 7._o s._n august_n §_o 8._o s._n hilary_n of_o arles_n §_o 9_o chap._n xiii_o viii_o argument_n because_o of_o the_o vanity_n of_o the_o roman_a defence_n in_o the_o behalf_n of_o their_o roman_a article_n of_o catholic_a jurisdiction_n discover_v by_o parallel_n 1._o the_o romish_a pretence_n from_o title_n ancient_o attribute_v to_o the_o roman_a chair_n by_o counsel_n confute_v by_o equivalence_n sect._n 1_o 2._o from_o the_o title_n attribute_v by_o ancient_a father_n confute_v first_o by_o equivalence_n sect._n 2.3_o next_o by_o their_o own_o contradiction_n sect._n 4._o three_o by_o the_o blasphemousnesse_n of_o sundry_a title_n attribute_v to_o the_o pope_n sect._n 5._o 3._o the_o romish_a pretence_n of_o supreme_a jurisdiction_n from_o the_o sentence_n of_o ancient_a greek_a father_n sect._n 6._o among_o other_o be_v the_o memorable_a example_n of_o theophilus_n and_o s._n cyril_n patriarch_n of_o alexandria_n atticus_n and_o acatius_n patriarch_n of_o constantinople_n all_o neglect_v the_o pope_n excommunieation_n sect._n 7._o the_o same_o from_o the_o latin_a father_n confute_v sect._n 8.9_o a_o general_n confutation_n of_o the_o former_a falsehood_n sect._n 10._o 4._o the_o same_o romish_a pretence_n of_o supreme_a jurisdiction_n from_o the_o authority_n of_o ancient_a pope_n confute_v sect._n 11.12.13_o as_o also_o from_o their_o acts._n sect._n 14._o the_o same_o pretence_n first_o take_v from_o the_o council_n of_o sardis_n for_o right_o of_o appeal_v to_o rome_n confute_v sect._n 15._o the_o same_o oppose_a by_o example_n of_o antiquity_n and_o second_o confute_v by_o a_o argument_n take_v from_o the_o council_n of_o chalcedon_n sect._n 16._o three_o from_o s._n cyprian_n sect._n 17._o four_o from_o pope_n damasus_n sect._n 18._o five_o from_o the_o council_n of_o milevis_n sect._n 19_o six_o from_o s._n augustine_n sect._n 20._o chap._n fourteen_o the_o three_o consideration_n of_o the_o church_n catholic_a be_v in_o respect_n of_o the_o latter_a age_n of_o the_o world_n confute_v the_o now_o roman_a article_n of_o the_o catholic_a church_n by_o instance_n of_o three_o kind_n first_o of_o remote_a nation_n 1._o because_o it_o false_o damn_v the_o greek_a church_n from_o age_n to_o age_n sect._n 1_o notwithstanding_o that_o it_o continue_v still_o a_o true_a christian_a church_n sect._n 2.3.4_o and_o be_v now_o in_o extent_n wonderful_a spacious_a and_o for_o multitude_n innumerable_a sect._n 5_o the_o extremity_n of_o the_o romish_a article_n sect._n 6._o a_o particular_a instance_n in_o ignatius_n patriarch_n of_o constantinople_n neglect_v the_o pope_n excommunication_n sect._n 7._o 2._o because_o it_o false_o damn_v the_o church_n of_o the_o assyrian_n sect._n 8._o 3._o because_o it_o false_o damn_v the_o church_n of_o other_o remote_a nation_n egyptian_n aethiopian_n armenian_n etc._n etc._n sect._n 9_o second_o in_o church_n more_o near_o because_o it_o as_o false_o damn_v all_o protestant_a church_n although_o more_o orthodox_n than_o rome_n itself_o and_o for_o number_v infinite_a sect._n 10._o three_o instance_n in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n itself_o because_o it_o condemn_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n itself_o in_o the_o latter_a age_n thereof_o prove_v either_o pope_n or_o church_n of_o rome_n schismatical_a in_o themselves_o sect._n 11.12_o prove_v by_o manifold_a and_o inevitable_a necessity_n as_o have_v sometime_o be_v a_o church_n headless_a sect._n 13._o sometime_o with_o a_o false_a head_n sect._n 14._o sometime_o with_o many_o head_n sect._n 15._o sometime_o counter-headed_n sect._n 16._o sometime_o doubtful_o head_v sect._n 17_o 18_o 19_o 20._o chap._n xv._n the_o determination_n of_o the_o whole_a question_n concern_v the_o separation_n of_o protestant_n from_o the_o roman_a church_n to_o discern_v whether_o side_n be_v to_o be_v account_v schismatical_a or_o may_v more_o just_o plead_v soul_n salvation_n discuss_v by_o certain_a thesis_n &_o consist_v of_o four_o part_n sect._n 1_o the_o first_o part_n consist_v of_o vii_o thesis_n i._o thesis_n a_o absolute_a decay_n of_o the_o whole_a catholic_a church_n be_v never_o defend_v by_o any_o protestant_n sect._n 2._o ii_o thesis_n the_o church_n symbolical_a proper_o call_v catholic_a can_v err_v in_o faith_n sect._n 3_o iii_o thesis_n how_o the_o church_n representative_a improper_o call_v catholic_a may_v be_v say_v to_o be_v subject_a to_o error_n sect._n 4._o iu_o protestant_n hold_v not_o any_o great_a inuisibility_n or_o rather_o obscurity_n of_o the_o church_n catholic_a than_o that_o which_o the_o romanist_n themselves_o aâ—e_v force_v to_o confess_v sect._n 5._o v._o thesis_n all_o particular_a church_n be_v not_o to_o be_v forsake_v for_o every_o unsoundnesse_n either_o in_o manner_n worship_n or_o doctrine_n sect._n 6._o vi_o thesis_n some_o unsound_a church_n be_v necessary_o to_o be_v avoid_v and_o just_a cause_n why_o sect._n 7._o vii_o no_o unjust_a excommunication_n out_o of_o a_o true_a church_n can_v prejudice_n the_o salvation_n of_o the_o excommunicate_a sect._n 8._o the_o second_o part_n be_v concern_v departure_n from_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n compare_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n with_o other_o church_n i._o thesis_n the_o cburch_n of_o rome_n be_v as_o subject_a to_o error_n as_o any_o other_o church_n sect._n 9_o ii_o thesis_n the_o church_n of_o rome_n be_v more_o subject_n to_o error_n then_o any_o other_o church_n christian._n sect._n 10._o iii_o thesis_n there_o be_v not_o in_o all_o scripture_n any_o prophecy_n of_o the_o fall_n of_o any_o christian_a church_n but_o only_o of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n from_o which_o it_o may_v sometime_o be_v necessary_a to_o depart_v sect._n 11._o iv._o thesis_n the_o church_n of_o rome_n have_v long_o be_v and_o still_o be_v the_o most_o schismatical_a church_n of_o all_o other_o christian_a church_n that_o carry_v in_o they_o a_o visible_a face_n of_o a_o church_n §_o 12._o the_o three_o part_n of_o this_o determination_n concern_v the_o
departure_n of_o protestant_n from_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n occasion_v by_o m._n luther_n i._o thesis_n luther_n be_v unjust_o excommunicate_v out_o of_o the_o roman_a church_n sect._n 15._o ii_o thesis_n luther_n have_v necessary_a cause_n to_o depart_v from_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n sect._n 15._o iii_o thesis_n luther_n and_o his_o follower_n be_v far_o more_o safe_a for_o their_o soul_n state_n in_o that_o separation_n from_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n and_o less_o schismatic_n than_o they_o who_o they_o forsake_v sect._n 16._o iv._o thesis_n the_o romish_a objection_n urge_v against_o the_o separation_n of_o luther_n be_v notable_o frivolous_a sect._n 17._o v._o thesis_n their_o first_o oiection_n in_o respect_n of_o luther_n former_a vow_n to_o the_o pope_n or_o church_n of_o rome_n be_v vain_a and_o idle_a sect._n 18._o vi_o thesis_n the_o second_o and_o most_o popular_a objection_n against_o luther_n in_o his_o opposition_n to_o the_o roman_a church_n urge_v he_o to_o prove_v his_o doctrine_n by_o immediate_a succession_n and_o by_o name_v his_o teacher_n before_o he_o be_v as_o fond_a as_o the_o other_o sect._n 19_o vii_o thesis_n the_o objection_n that_o all_o change_n of_o doctrine_n have_v be_v notorious_a in_o the_o person_n and_o place_n of_o their_o beginning_n be_v false_a sect._n 20._o viii_o thesis_n the_o last_o objection_n of_o continual_a and_o personal_a succession_n in_o all_o age_n be_v frustrate_a sect._n 21._o the_o four_o and_o last_o part_n of_o this_o determination_n concern_v the_o state_n of_o the_o church_n of_o protestant_n after_o the_o day_n of_o luther_n and_o their_o more_o just_a cause_n of_o continue_v this_o separation_n from_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n sect._n 22._o i._o thesis_n protestant_n be_v general_o excommunicate_v by_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n sect._n 23._o ii_o thesis_n protestant_n be_v unjust_o excommunicate_v sect._n 24._o iii_o thesis_n in_o the_o continuance_n of_o this_o separation_n papist_n be_v 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