way of such as desire to know the Truth In Page 6. I take notice how Deceitfully S. B. casts a slander upon us pretending how he hath fil'd off the Rust and Ruggedness of our Expressions yet charging us with disorder dismembring the Scripture which happily we might not speak every Word yet certain I am although many things were then cast in yet I did not violate or pervert the sense of any one Scripture Again he chargeth us with Dishonesty in not Noting Chapter and Verse in which he did greatly boast To which I then answered the Words we speak were Scripture Words and he had no great cause to boast For the Scripture was not given forth in Chapter and Verse neither did the Apostles ever so declare but when they speak Scripture Words they said as it is written naming only the Prophet or writer of the same and here People may take notice of a manifest Slander viz That it is Friends usual manner to speak Scripture darkly and confusedly thereby the more easily to deceive those with whom the Scripture hath any Credit Page 6. Page 7. He goes on with his Lies and Slanders saying My design was to make the Hearers believe that the Eternal Word as distinct from the Manhood of Christ is the true Christ and only Saviour As if I had gone about directly to deny the Body which is like many more of his Charges in his Book which are absolute Lies and Slanders which I shall note hereafter as they fall in my way Neither did I ever use any such Expression for if I had said He were the true and only Saviour that is to say according to S. B's sense every way sufficient to perform the whole Office of a Saviour as distiâ—guished from the Manhood then was that work in vain viz Christ taking upon him a Body of Flesh and all his Sufferings Death and Resurrection in vain If Christ as God only did perform and perfect the work of Mans Salvation without it Presently he contradicts himself saying Hereunto agrees his Words meaning mine so often repeated by him God was manifest in the Flesh which he saith we mean all Mankind Flesh which he calls an Error Which although it is my belief that God is manifest in his glorious Light in every Man according to his measure according to John 1.9 He Enlightneth every Man that cometh into the World yet my Words chiefly had Reference to that prepared Body in which the Invisible Power did so gloriously appear to those whose Eyes was open to behold it but this his Lie and Slander I shall leave upon his own Head Another Lie or Slander is in Page 8. where he saith A Teaching Quaker whom he calls a Seducing Quaker such a Quaker saith he attributes no more Soul-saving merit to the Body of Christ then to the Body of a Turk or a Jew All that have heard or read the Declarations of Friends concerning the Manhood of Christ can do no less then Judge him to be a Slanderer and a Liar Farther S. B. saith That I insisting upon John 1.9 concluded the Light in every Man to be Christ and that Christ to be the only Saviour I confess I have said That that Light in every Man iâ— given by Christ to believe in that he may be saved from Sin But rhe word only was never used by me so as to deny the Body of Christ in which he performed the will of God upon the account of Mans Salvation yet he confesseth its true that Light in that Scripture signifieth Christ and that Christ in a sense but it must be his own sense doth Enlighten every Man that cometh into the World that is said he with reason So here he adds to the Scripture whereby he doth confound or pervert the true sense of the same by his Addition concluding that Christ the true Light that Enlightneth every Man that cometh into the World doth Enlighten Man with no other Light then the Light of Reason according to the sense of that Scripture but we believe that the Light with which Christ doth Enlighten Mankind is that Light that shineth in Darkness and the Darkness cannot comprehend and also doth detect discover and make manifest the works of Darkness and doth lead those that believe in it out of the same and this Light is manifested in some measure in every Mans Conscience as they are exercised in the affairs of this World as they heed it But a little to go back to the 2d Confession in Page 82. S. B. calls the work of the Spirit within no other but the effects of the thing done by the Man Christ without us as if to be Sanctified Washed and Purged from Sin could not possibly be wrought except first the Man Christ must have suffered without us as the Anticedent cause of those effects Whereas it is certain that many of the Prophets and Righteous Men that lived before the Appearance of Christ in the Body did Witness these things wrought within them through the effectual working of the Spirit of God in their Hearts So that it is plain that Christ was manifest to them before he took the Body as well as when he took the Body according to the Scripture Christ the same Yesterday to Day and forever So having finished this digression I go forward again In the last line of the 8th Page he saith I belie the Holy Man John that the Enlightning in every Man is Christ which I again testifie that it is a measure of the Light of the true Christ who is God blessed for ever and to prove this aâ— Error he saith That this Evangelist doth evidently affirm that the Light he â—pake of in the 9th Vers was the Man Jesus which he saith never was nor â—an be in any Man for this he brings the 29 and 30 verses of the same Chapter I Answer The Evangelist in them words cannot be so understood as a Man only for he testifies of him as a whole or perfect Saviour and if so then God for if he were Man only he could not sanctifie and cleanse the Soul from Sin and how then is he the Lamb of God that taketh away the Sins of the World or how is the Sin taken away if it still remains â—n the Heart But peradventure he will say He takes away the guilt of Sin through his Sufferings and to be Cleansed from the Defilement doth follow as the effects I Answer If it be so then it appears that the whole work of Mans Salvation and so not the whole office of a Saviour was not performed at once without us as Sampson Bond affirmeth in his 3d Argument for there is something to be effected within still and if so who as it that works those effects within if it be not the Spirit In Page Nine He goes on to prove the Light within not to be the true Christ by my Words for he saith My Words Imply That thy Light in every Man is Christ therefore
thy Redeemer and Christ from whence it comes who Redeems Sanctifies Washes and Justifies Priest Bond saith Page 31. That F. E. saith He was Washed and Justified from Sin in some measure Is any man Justified but according to the measure of Faith And thou finds fault with measure or degrees and yet thou usest the same word degrees Page 31. And thou saist That our Justification from Sin was once finished and perfected without us on the Cross with the Offering of the Body of Christ Jesus once for all and Christ gave himself a Ransome for all c. This the Quakers believe But did Christ give himself a Ransome for all And was he an Offering for all Men And how can Priest Bond say Christ hath Justified him from his Sin or Washt him from his Sin when he saith He shall not be free from Sin which is of the Devil in this Life And yet he finds fault with F. E. who said He was Washed and Justified from his Sin in some Measure and calls it a dangerous Doctrine and saith Jesus Christ of Nazareth hath once by his own Crucified Body without us on the Cross finished Transgression and made an end of Sin Mark made an end of Sin And Priest Bond saith again They shall not be made free from Sin in this Life and there is in all true Believers a Cursed Root of bitterness not cast out death only mark only makes the Conquest over Sin and yet Christ hath made an end of Sin Then how can Priest Bond say Christs Death makes an end of Sin as in Page 31. When they cannot be made free from it in this Life it must be Death that must end it So you may see what conrtadiction he makes and what confusion he is in Priest Bond grants that we could not he saved without the operation of his Spirit in us and yet Christ within is a Devil and his Light is an Idol Light he saith And the Quakers own no other Christ within but what the Apostles Preacht both without and within Priest Bond saith It is the Spirit that quickens John 6.63 But Priest Bond hath not proved this Is not Christ who is the Saviour of the Soul a quickning Spirit as it is written the first Adam was made a Living Soul The second Adam was made a quickning Spirit 1 Cor. 15.47 But Priest Bond saith Though the Spirit be a dead Souls quickner yet it is not the quickned Souls Saviour Page 26. So then Christ the second Adam who is a quickning Spirit is not the Souls Saviour according to Priest Bonds Doctrine And Priest Bond makes a great deal of pudder in several Pages concerning eating Christs Flesh and drinking his Blood who saith Except ye eat the Flesh of the Son of Man and drink his Blood yee have no Life in you Now we that eat the Flesh of Christ and drink his Blood by Faith and have Life and Christ in us this Christ Priest Bond saith is a Devil and his Light is an Idol And Priest Bond falls a Railing against the Quakers in Page 20. and saith Crucifying of the Son of God Crucifying of him again c. And have trod under foot the Blood of the Son of God But Priest Bond is not this thy own condition and not the Quakers who calls Christ and his Light within his people an Idol the Devil And saist The Saints shall not he made free from Sin in this Life and the Apostle said That the Blood of Christ Jesus the Son of God cleanseth from all Sin And Priest Bond makes a great deal of Pudder in three or four Pages concerning the Seed in Page 19. Christ we say is the Seed of the Woman which bruises the Serpents Head and Christ is the Seed of Abraham in which seed all Nations are blest and if ye be Christs then are yee Abrahams Seed and heirs according to the promise and are the Children of God by Faith in Christ Jesus And we tell Priest Bond Christ is the Seeds-man And he may read in the Scriptures what Christ calls the Seed that he sows and the good Seed are the Children of the Kingdom Priest Bond thou saist Christ in you the cause being put for the effect by a Metonyma but he hath not proved the word Metonyma by Scripture that he hath added in Page 18. And Priest Bond makes a great stur Page 17. Of Christ being in his People but why cannot he own the Apostles words as they speak plainly which are better than his meanings as in 2 Cor. 13. Coloss 1.27 and Amos 2.13 Genesis 6.6 And there he is giving his meanings upon those Scriptures which are plain enough without his meanings and dark imaginations who pretends Scripture to be his Rule and the people must take his meanings to be the Rule And Priest Bond saith The Light within doth Justify the vilest Antichrists that are this day in the World The Light within which is by natural Generation in Reprobates is not the true Christ Page 16. saith Priest Bond. Answer These are Priest Bonds horrid Lies and Blasphemies Christ who enlightens every man that comes into the World Condemns the Antichrists and the wicked and the Reprobates that hate it and do not believe in it And this Light doth not come by natural Generation as Priest Bond scoffingly saith but the Light is called the Life in Christ the Word by which all things were made John 1. Page 16. And yet Priest Bond confesses in contradiction to himself and saith It is true by Light To wit Christ which enlightens every man that comes into the World is meant the true Christ and only Saviour Page 8. And Priest Bond goes over and over and scoffingly and Blasphemously saith Christ within is a Devil which he might as well have reflected on the Apostles as on the Quakers for the Quakers own the true Saviour manifest in them as he was in the Apostles and Saints in their days And it is false to say That we make no distinction betwixt Christs Godhead and Christs Manhood as in Page 12. Priest Bond thou saist Page 10. But as for your Idol Light Christ it was never visible but ever invisible So here Priest Bond hath set up an Invisible Idol of his own making in Page 10. And yet in Page 8. S. Bond saith It is true that by Light in that place of Scripture the true Christ and our only Saviour is meant John 1. And in Page 10. An Invisible Idol Priest Bond saith Page 8. A Quaker attributes no more Soul-saving Merit to the Body of Jesus than to the Body of a Turk or a Jew These horrid Lyes Priest Bond hath Forged which Lyes of his was never the Quakers thoughts For God prepared Christ a Body to do his Will and to fulfill his Will c. who was a sacrifice for the Sins of the whole World and dyed and rose again and sits at the Right Hand of God and yet Priest Bond made to confess that the Quakers
World and upholds it by the same Word of Power who after he had purged our sins said the Apostle sat down on the Right Hand of the Majesty on High Ephes 4.6 And this is he who fills all things and is above all and in us all So all those that desire to know their Sin purged must know Christ not at a distance only but nigh even dwelling in them else they are Reprobates which all the obedient in Heart do Witness according to his promise If a Man love me he will keep my Words and my Father will love him and we will come unto him and make our abode with him So he that believeth in Christ at a distance only never knows a fulfilling of Christs Words in them who said He and his Father would make their abode with them For it was revealed by the Holy Ghost to Old Simeon before he had seen the Lords Christ and Simeon came by the Spirit into the Temple c. And the Angel of the Lord told Ioseph that which was conceived in Maâ—y is of the Holy Ghost Now Simeon by the Spirit and Holy Ghost did see the Lords Christ which was conceived by the Holy Ghost who was revealed to him by the Holy Ghost So this was a Spiritual Sight not Natural For the Natural Man receives not the things of God they are foolishness unto him neither can he know them bâ—cause they are Spiritually discerned Mat. 1.20 Luke 2.26 27. 1 Cor. 2.14 And the Angel said to Mary that Holy Thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God And doth not Christ say That none knowes the Father nor the Son but by Revelation 3. S. B. saith farther we make the Angels Lyars who said he bore witness only to the Body or Man Luke 2.11 To which I Answer I deny that the Angels there do bear Witness meerly to the Body for in their Testimony they testifie to this Saviour as a King For unto you is Born said they in the City of David a Saviour which is Christ the Lord. Which Word Christ relates to his Kingly Power which was Spiritual as he saith My Kingdom is not of this World And the Testimony or Message the Angel brought to Mary as concerning the Son of God who was now coming to be made manifest in the Flesh said He should Reign forever and his Kingdom should have no End Luke 1.33 For the Angel said Behold a Virgin shall be with Child and shall bring forth a Son and they shall call his Name Emanuel which being Interpreted is God with us So here you may see that the Angels bore Witness more then only to the Body or Man Mat. 1.23 as Sampson Bond doth assert which he has not proved So Mary believed God and did not ascribe the Work of Salvation to him meerly as Man but to God saying My Spirit hath rejoyced in God my Saviour Vers 47. I would not have any one to think because I plead so much for the Spirit that I deny the Body of Christ but do own it in all points as the Scripture doth declare of it and so give the Honour due unto it Though I cannot believe the things declared by S. B. in his Nonscriptural expressions The last thing which is the Apostles Testimony of Christ I have sufficiently spoke to already and so shall wave it here So People may see how far short of his promise he came in proving his Three Accusations with the greatest clearness from the Holy Scripture so hath little cause to boast or glory of his Victory for the Truth stands over his Head and will do for ever The Third and last Accusation is That the prime Principles of a Quaker is the same that was held and professed by the Beasts which Paul fought with at Ephesus And to prove this he first doth endeavour to prove that those Beasts did deny the Resurrection and said so do we I answer The first was never truly proved and the second is absolutely false his Scripture to prove the first 1 Cor. 15.32 where the Apostle saith If after the manner of Men I have fought with Beasts at Ephesus what doth it avail if the Dead rise not Doth this at all argue that this was the Ephesians profest Principles or doth it not rather argue that the Saints loses their reward for all their labour if the Dead rise not as he saith in the 19th Vers If in this Life only we have hope in Christ we are of all Men most Miserable So that he hath fallen short of his proof and so his Accusation is truly overthrown But inasmuch as he did go on to charge the thing upon us viz That we do deny the Resurrection I do here testifie that it is none of our Principles to deny the Resurrertion for we own it as the Apostles own'd it Not the same Body not a Corruptible Body not a Natural Body a Natural Body hath Flesh Blood and Bones but a Spiritual Body as the Apostle saith And a Spirit hath not Flesh and Bones said Christ which before he can prove he must be fain to get new Scripture for the Old will maintain no such Doctrines So though he did stop and hinder me that time by his Mocks and Scoffs and deriding Speeches and clamorous Noise altogether unlike a Preacher of the Everlasting Gospel as he saith in his Paper be is yet now through mercy I trust as the Truth will stand over your Heads so I shall be clear of your Blood whether you will hear or forbear I am a Friend to the Seed and a Lover of your Souls The 11th of the 3d Month 1678. Francis Estlacke Some few Lines briefly Answering some Part of SAMPSON BOND 's Book Entituled The Quakers in BERMUDAS Tryed c. THat part in his Book which I find my self chiefly concerned to make Answer to is where he makes mention of my Name viz. William Wilkinson As for my part I do not know that I should have set Pen to Paper to have made him any Answer had he laid down the Matter concerning me every way Fairly and truly without Abusing me or the Truth but I finding in several places of his Book Words printed that I cannot own to be Truth besides his reviling Speeches which he hath cast at me As Prater a Baffling Quaker and one that never had the Spirit of God in me All which things in the sense he brings them if true were a great Reproach But I knowing it is too hard a thing for him to prove or plainly to make appear do find my self justly concerned to make some reply or answers both to these and several other things for the vindicating of the Truth and my self also from him whom I find in his Book hath very much strove to make his own case appear strong and ours weak c. But according to that saying in Prov. 18.17 He that is first in his own cause seemeth just but his Neighbour cometh and searcheth
in the middest of us as the true assembling and gathering in the name of Jesus which is the power is truly witnessed and his workings in the particular Vessels is sundry sometimes so that the creature being sensible of the working of the Power sometimes breaths unto the Lord while sitting silent together sometimes uttering it self in a sigh or groan sometimes feeling the raptures of the heavenly joy breaks forth into singing which this mocking Priest which dwells in Ishmaels Nature deridingly calls Humming and Canting and wherâ—as some who with Eve have hearkned to the Tempter whereby their minds have been led out into disorderly and unlawful actions this he hath cast upon the true Baptisme of the Spirit but the reward of the Mocker is the Judgement of the Eternal God which shall be this Priests food for ever except he repents And so much in Answer to his second Charge by which it is manifest that the main end of our meeting in this Island is not to make the Lords Christ the Holy Spirit Angels and Apostles all Lyers and false-witnesses of God as this Priest hath falsly charged us But the main end of our meetings is to wait to feel his living motions requirings and leadings that by it we may be led to glorify the Father Word and Spirit in the true guidance of the Spirit into the true and Spiritual worship which is well-pleasing unto God I should now proceed to his third and last Charge but because W. Wilkinson hath given some answer thereto already I suppose I may sum up the Answer in the fewer words The Charge is this That the prime Principles of a Quaker are the same that were held and professed by the Beasts that Paul fought with at Ephesus To thee oh thou false Man I make this Reply in Answer to this false Charge Art not thou ashamed thus to utter Lyes oh thou false Tongue Dost not thou know thou must give an account for these things to the Lord For now had their Principles been our Principles Paul would have had no need to have made War against them neither would the Apostle have had any such causâ— to leave them under such an odium upon the record of Truth to all succeeding Generations calling them Beasts for no other cause that we can here on from thee but for denying the Resurrection and yet I can sâ—e little but thy bare word for it neither though thou saist it is manifest in 1 Cor. 15. Beside there were many that were found in this error as the Sect of the Saduces yet were not left under that odium which makes me judge that the Apostle had seen some other bruitish principle or practice which caused him thus to contend with them But if thou could prove that yet it would be too much for thee to undertake to make good thy Charge because we do not at all deny the Resurrection And to lay open the wickedness and falsity of this thy Charge I shall here declare to the World what our prime chief and leading Principle is Our prime chief oâ— leading Principle is Christ the Light whom God hath given for a Leader who hath enlightened every man that câ—meth into the world which Light hath shined in our dark Hearts and manifested it self in our Conscienâ—â—s by which we first came to see our m serable state and condition being by nature Children oâ— Wrath and under the power of Darkness in which state we were separated from God from hit Spirit and this Light which discovered our woful state under sin and in transgression we felt it also to Judge us and as we gave heed unto it and regarded its reproofs and hearkned to its voice which voice we often heaâ—d in the cool of the day But I say as we began to have regard unto it and believed in it and obeyed its voice we found it was the way of Life and its leadings we discerned was alvvays out of every thing that vvas evil and if at any time vve turned aside to hearken to the Enemy vve found it to rebuke us and Judge us and then our peace vvould be broken and pain and anguish vve should feel in our Souls and some of us sometimes vvould be afraid that it vvas the dictates of a natural Conscience and then vve vvere afraid of being deceived but coming into seriousness and vveightiness vve found that all men by nature vvere dead but this vve discerned vvas living and as vve obeyed vve felt its life to spring up in us and vve vvere quickned by it and it lead us more and more out of death and darkness and living openings in the mysteries of Salvation vve come to receive then vve began to grovv bold and confident that this Light vvas truly the Light and Spirit of Jesus So he became our Leader and as many as vvere faithful to it received povver and vvaxed strong and are brought in some measure to the Word of Life and through Christ alone hath the Lord raised us up to be a people whom the World deridingly call Quakers and for the sake of this Righteous Principle have many of this people deeply suffered yet of it we are not ashamed but are resolved to follow it although through the Tribulation through the Cross and Self-denyal believing that he will Crovvn us vvith an Everlasting Crovvn of Glory So this is our Faith That the Lord vvill raise us up at the last day for if the Dead rise not vve vvere of all creatures most miserable being given up to suffer vvhat Man shall be suffered to do unto us But this is our Faith That the Lord vvill raise us up according to his promise and vvill change our vile Bodies and vvill fashion them like unto his glorious Body So being satisfied as concerning the Love of God That there shall not be any thing vvanting to make our Inheritance perfect to our eternal content and satisfaction vve can leave that to the Lord to prepare us a Body as it pleaseth him So this Light of Jesus Christ is our Principle vvhich vvas not the prime principle of the Beasts vvhich Paul fought vvith at Ephesus for this vvas the very thing that this Apostle vvas to turn people to Acts 26.18 So I have done with this Charge only noting one thing in Page 72. vvhere he said I called to him for his Bible I call'd not to him for his Bible therefore let that be added also to fill up his measure vvho I perceive is so hardned he neither cares much vvhat he either saith or vvrites for it vvas not in my heart to call to him for his Bible but I said if I had a Bible I could prove it viz. That the dead shall not rise the same Body Immediately he profer d his and I found the place vvhere the Apostle comparing the Resurrection to a Grain of Wheat saith plainly It cometh not up the same Body but God giveth it a Body as it pleaseth him Thus have I gone through S.
him The first thing I find in his Book where he takes occasion to mention me is my calling of him Friend To which he answers himseâ—f saying I am none of thy Friend Answer In so saying I have now cause to believe he spoke truth though I had Charity and Friendship towards him as his following words in the same page partly makes appear by his reckoning up a Report of me which was by me many years before in Word Writing and Practice condemned and declared against as also that very time in the Presence of all the People there which were many when the Dispute was he himself being also present who could not but hear I being so near where he was all which a man would think might have been sufficient to have satisfied any Christian-hearted Man But it seems it would not satisfie him But according to that in Prov. 28.13 Whoso confesseth his Sins and forsakes them shall have mercy which was fulfilled as we may read both by and David and Peter after they knew the Truth and they both came again do find acceptance both with God and Man and that it was the practice of the Christians in days past to upbraid any with their Transgression or Sin after truly repented of I do not read so that for his so doing it appears Unnatural and not like a Christian But to proceed to the next thing where he says the next Prater was William Wilkinson in Page 61. where he says I repeated some of the Apostles words in Col. 1.27 Christ in you the hope of Glory Now it is worth the noting here how barely he hath brought this Scripture without laying here down the reason why it was brought which had but been fair and reasonable so to have done but as I before have said so here it doth appear how he strives to make his own cause strong and ours weak but it is not like to pass so For this I know and heard him say If you said he can prove that Christ was ever in any Man as a Saviour I will lay down the Cudgels or words to this very purpose which greatly occasioned me to bring them words of the Apostle which were before mentioned saying Christ in you the hope of Glory which was pretty partenent to that purpose to prove that Christ was in Man as a Saviour seeing the Apostle said Christ in you the hope of Glory Col. 1.27 But here methinks he struggles greatly to have another meaning for the Apostles words then what the Apostle himself said who spoke plainly But he saith This is an inforced sense and destroys the true nature of the word HOPE Now here I would have it well considered by the Reader who is most fitting to be believed the Apostle or Sampson Bond And the Apostle in Rom. 8.24 saith We are saved by Hope And in Gal. 2.20 he saith I live yet not I but Christ liveth in me and the Life which I now live in the Flesh I live by the Faith of the Son of God So that it is plain that Christ is in his People both their Hope and Faith too let this Man say what he will Again he saith in Page 63. That I interrupted him saying We owned Gods Presence in Heaven and in Hell Answ This I disown to be either fairly or truly laid down for I did not bring them Words by way of interruption but what I said tending to that matter was by way of Answer to one of his Questions which was to me thus Quest Is God in Heaven or in Hell Answ To which I Answered him with some of the Words of the Psalms Psal 139.7 8. Whither shall we flee from thy Presence if I ascend up into Heaven thou art there or go down to Hell thou art there To this my Answer he said I said well for so said he he is every where Quest But speedily after he asked me again whether God was in Hell saved or damned To this Question he saith I Answered I will not tell thee these Words I utterly disown as being then spoken by me But it seemes it is little to him to cause such Words to be Printed as were not then spoken and send about the World for People to read as Truth But I hearing him ask this last Question it appeared to me so rediculous as amongst Men and so improper to be asked concerning the Lord who is God over all Blessed for Ever that I Answered I leave it to thee This Answer he saith was no other then a silly shift Now it is worth the Noting how he hath shifted concerning his own Words Where he saith he asked him meaning me Whether his God whose presence he owned to be in Hell was there saved or damned This Word his I disown to be therein mentioned and his own foregoing Words in answer to me helpeth greatly to make appear as may be seen where I answered him to that Question Whether God was in Heaven or in Hell with some of the words of the Psalms he said I said well for said he he is every where Now here his Words did not relate to that sense he hath shifted them where he says his God but his words related to the same God the Psalmist spoke of else why did he say I said well But it is like he hath considered since he asked that Unreverent Question that it was too gross and Improper to go forth so as it was at first stated therefore he would see to help it a little But seeing that I did not Answer this Question according to his expectation I have looked that he should have answered it himself for the satisfaction of the People that heard him But as to that I find him silent and the People left in as much Darkness about it as they were before for what I see or know So that I may say if it were by him accounted Inconsiderable to be answered it was much more Inconsiderable to have been asked But in that 63 Page I find because I did not answer to that foul impertinent Question before mentioned as he would have had me He saith I was one of their Baffling Prating Quakers Answ Methinks it would more a becomed him before he had charged me so high to have had a more sufficient ground for his charge then that was But it seems it is little to him to give bad names and cause to be Printed though upon too sleight a ground for the reason why I did no other wayes answer him I have before given as may be seen in my answer to that unsavoury Question of his The next thing I find he notes concerning me is That I repeated that place of Scripture in the 2 Cor. 5.16 where it is said Though we have known Christ after the Flesh yet now henceforth know we him no more Answ This doing is like some of his former as I have already mentioned to insert the place of Scripture without laying down with it the reason or occasion why
by that Christ within whereupon I said then truly thou must be Damn'd for if Christ be not within the Apostles saith they are Reprobates These were the very words I spoke not at all denying the appearance of Christ in Body So His and their Lies and false Reports I leave at their own door knowing that a day of Account will come when the Lord will bring the Hidden things of Darkness to Light and will pass Judgment in Truth and Righteousness As for the rest of the matter in that Page contained about questioning with me about Heaven I do not remember any thing of it as he has laid it down only this I remember that upon some question demanded I answered that I did believe Christ was in Heaven to which George Basâ—ome or Laurance Dill answered that I would deny it again to Morrow So that answer arose from that confession rather then the foregoing as mentioned by S. B. Now in answer to the thing he said I charge on him viz. that he had not mentioned Christ as God in the work of Mans Salvation Sampson's Bond in his answer seems to affirm that the Apostles although they knew that Christ was God as well as Man yet they Preached up the Man only to be believed in for the Remission of sins both to the Jews and Gentiles and saith farther that the Apostles do Joyntly Testifie of the Man Jesus Christ of Nazareth to be the only Lamb of God that taketh away the Sins of the World Reply I answer to the former part although the Apostles in their first going out to preach Christ to the Jewish People did mention the Manhood yet this did not at all Argue that he must not believe in as God for the Remission of Sin for as I have said before to the same purpose there was sufficient cause for them so strongly to contend with that people who had the Scripture and by the Scripture did understand that there was a mighty Prince to arise of the stock of David that should fit upon his Throne and Reign over the House of Israel The Apostles might therefore Judge in themselves that it would be in vain for them to Preach to the Jewes of the Invisible Glory of Christ till this Scruple were removed viz. whether Jesus of Nazareth were the promised Messiah yea or nay So I say this was their work thus to Testifie of him and then it rightly falls in after they were brought to believe that this was really he that should come and that they were not to look for another and that this King was cut off by such an Ignominous Death I say it did then rightly fall in to Testifie and declare and to give them an understanding what manner of King he should be over what People he was to Rule as also what manner of Kingdom it should be viz. a Spiritual King a Spiritual Kingdom and a Spiritual People even Spiritual Israel But when the Apostle wrote of Christ to the believing Romans he declared him as God Blessed for ever as well as Man Rom. 9.5 Also he declares him the Lord from Heaven the quickning Spirit 1 Cor. 15. He calls him the Second Adam the Lord from Heaven and whom Paul was first sent forth to Preach Act 26. He was sent to turn Men from Darkness to Light and from the Power of Sathan to God by all which it appears plainly that it was never the work of the Apostles nor of any of Christs true Ministers to Preach Christ to be believed in for the Remission of Sins as Man only without the God-head Therefore what God hath Joyned together let no Man put a sunder 2. Whereas S. B. saith that the Apostles bore a Testimony joyntly to the Man that he was the only Lamb of God that taketh away the sins of the World No Quaker denys that And John speaking of Christ saith He was prefered before him for saith he He was before me Now if he had spoke of Christ barely as Man then John would have been found a false witness of Christ for as Man John was six Months before him as to his Age as may appear in Luk. 2. So he that but a little before charged me with belying the Holy Evangelist John himself is fallen under the condemnation and I am clear of his charge Having thus Traced S. B. through his four Arguments frained to prove his first Charge and given to each of them a particular answer grounded upon plain Scripture Truth and right Reason agreeing thereto and his many false and Slanderous accusations brought fourth against me and the Light by me believed in with his Mallicious reproachful Lies and Blasphemies against the appearance of God in the Creature and given answer thereto I intend now God willing to pass forward to note his following Irregularities he having to do with other Friends as well as my self viz. The Lyes Slanders Mockings Blasphemies and False Interpretations of the Scripture and to give Answer to the same as I see occasion not intending a large discourse upon each particular But as it were to note here and there as I see a necessity to lay open his Deceit thereby to clear the Truth and Friends falsly charged And now to begin with his first work following in pag. 24. he saith William Bullock whose name by him is mistaken his name is Stephen Bullock was the next Disputant who mentioned the first of the Rom. 19. which he saith doth not at all answer the present matter by way of proof to prove the Saviour within to be the True Christ Now here mark how this Interpreter in his Interpretation of this Scripture doth make use of one word viz. Shewed it to them in the Text which seemed most fit for his turn not only to confound but quite to race out the other Manifest in them as if it had never been Inserted that thereby it might not prove that for which I judge this Scripture was brought to prove the inward Manifestation of Christ as God who is Truth it self even as Christ saith I am the Way the Truth and the Life Now in the foregoing verse the Apostle saith The wrath of God is Revealed from Heaven against all Vngodliness and Vnrighteousness of Men who hold the Truth in Vnrighteousness Mark here is a Generation that holds the Truth in Unrighteousness and thus he clears it up because said he that which may be known of God is manifest in them viz. in these unrighteous Men but is it not hid in them nay it is manifest in them for he hath shewed it unto them Now this word unto this Priest hath mad use of to overthrow the true sence of the word in so that by this his interpretation having raised out the internal manifestation or inward Teaching of Gods Spirit in the Heart he hath only set up an External Teacher without i. e. the Visible Creation without by which only neither he nor the wisest Man in the World by all their Craft
Christ 2 Cor. 4. and it is false to say that we affirm that the Word was never made Flesh and here thou maist see thy contradictions who confessest the Word Eternal in Page 8. and contradicts it and scoffest at it in Page 15. who saist Search for your Gospel Word of Faith surely not in the Scriptures without but at your Oracle that Idol Light within which you falsly call the Everlasting Gospel and Eternal Word Yet thou contradicts thy self and saith p. 8. Christ the Eternal Word enlightens every man that comes into the World And now thou callest the Light within O thou Idol Light-within Here thou maist see how thou dost Blaspheme against the true Light and the Life in Christ the Word which enlightens every man that comes into the world Which will be thy Condemnation who hatest it and blaspheamest against it More of S. B.'s bad Words Page 16. The Light within doth justify the vilest Antichrists No it condemns thee and them Page 16. S. B. saith Metonymia c. F. E. understands no more than the Hour-Glass that is before me But S. B. hath not proved that the Gospel-Ministers Preacht in a Pulpit like Ezra neither hath he proved that Ezra had a Cushion which he makes such a work about nor his Word Metonymy by Scripture which he says is his Rule S. B. saith A Cushion is familiar the Gloe-worm Light within the Idol Light within Page 18. 19. Antichristian Divinity to wit the Light in Man c. These are Priest Bonds soul words S. B. saith You blind Leaders of the blind blush and tremble at your accursed Gospel within c. page 20. Answer We are not ashamed of the Gospel of Christ for it is the Power of God unto Salvation to every one that believes Rom. 1. S. B. The Eternal Word which as ye affirm was never made Flesh page 15. and page 18. thou gives thy self the Lye when thou saist F. E. the Quaker said That the Word took Flesh of the Virgin and in that Flesh dyed for all men Thou sayst that this motion pleased F. E. so well to make a deliberate repetition of it and this thou scoffingly calledst F. E's New Divinity the Idol Light within But where did ever the Apostles call the Light of Christ which shines in the heart an Idol Light within as thou blasphemously saist But here it is clear thou hast manifested a Lying Spirit who saist page 15. that we affirm the Eternal Word was never made Flesh And then again in page 18. thou art made to confess thus viz. I shall here take up an expression which I had almost forgotten which this Disputant F. E. doubled in his Discourse namely That the Word took Flesh of the Virgin and in that Flesh died for all men That God sent Christ to save all men from sin and death as he F. Eastlack said whose Sufferings Sacrifice Mediation Intercession and Offices we do own and witness as inwardly wrought and performed in us and for us And this thou dost confess page 18. That the Quakers did confess Christ was in their hearts and scoffingly saist still the Idol Light within and callest this a New Doctrine Now here it is clear according to the Scripture we did confess the Word became Flesh and Christ was put to death in the Flesh and so died for our Sins and is risen for our Justification and is revealed in our hearts by his Spirit by which we know him to be our Mediator and Intercessor and without him we can do nothing who exercises his Prophetical and his Priestly and Kingly Office in his Church S B. And again thou saist We affirm the Eternal Word was never made Flesh and then in Page 21 thou confessest that F. E. the Quaker said that the Word took Flesh and in that Flesh Dyed for all Men Here again thou givest thy self a Lye in thy own Book In Page 20. S. B. saith You most certainly would do your uttermost to Crucifie Him again to wit Christ These are some of thy malicious Lyes for Christ is our Life and Saviour Heb. 6.7 S. B. may apply to himself and Heb. 10.29 And then S. B. is at it again That a Quakers pretended Saviour within him was not the true Christ but the false Page 22. O most Horrible Quakerisme digged out of the Bottomless Pit thy Light Christ Conscience seducing and Lying Quaker the false Christ within Page 22. See the venom of this Man for F. E. the Quaker confesseth that Jesus Christ of Nazareth was received up into Heaven Page 23. And because the Quakers say this true Christ is revealed in them by his Spirit and rules in their Hearts by Faith this S. B. with his evil Spirit calls him the Devil and the False Christ And the Quakers make a distinction betwixt the Conscience and Christ for the Conscience may be seared and the Quakers do not say that every Man that comes into the World hath received Christ because he enlightens every Man that comes into the World for them that believe in his Light are saved and them that do not are Condemned S. B's Wicked words Page 24 and 25. As Blind as Bayard the false Christ the Idol light within a Syllogysme a great Monster to him to wit to the Quaker That is not the Quakers Monster but S. B's Thou saist the Eternal Power and God-head was manifest in the unconverted Gentiles yet in another place thou saist Christ the Saviour within is the false Christ What confused Babylon Stuff is this and yet S. B. saith That this was the Gospel Word that was Preached which profited not neither Jews nor Gentiles that did not by the mouth of Faith eat the Flesh and drink the Blood of our only Saviour So then if they eat his Flesh and drink his Blood by the mouth of Faith it is within them But did they eat this outward Flesh or humane Flesh as thou callest it and yet S. B. saith in Page 26. The Quakers Saviour within is not the true Christ but of the Devil And Page 15. thou saist Where do you teaching Quakers seek for your Gospel Word of Faith Surely not in the Scriptures and in Page 26. This was the Gospel Word that was Preacht c. Saith S. B. in contradiction to himself who saith Surely not in the Scriptures without but at your Oracle that Idol light within that the Quakers have searcht for then hath not S. B. watcht for the same at his Idol light within though we do abhor his blasphemous words against the Light of Christ S. B. saith that I do affirm Jesus Christ as man is our only material Saviour and that the Manhood of the Son of God is the only material Cause of our Salvation and by necessary consequence the Manhood or humane Nature of Christ was and is our only material Saviour Page 28. But where doth S. B. prove the word Material and Humane Nature in Scripture which he calls his Rule Is Christ's Humane Nature