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A39999 Rectius instruendum, or, A review and examination of the doctrine presented by one assuming the name of ane [sic] informer in three dialogues with a certain doubter, upon the controverted points of episcopacy, the convenants against episcopacy and separation : wherein the unsoundnes, and (in manythinges) the inconsistency of the informers principles, arguments, and answers upon these points, the violence which he hath offred unto the Holy Scripture and to diverse authors ancient and modern, is demonstrat and made appear, and that truth which is after godlines owned by the true Protestant Presbyterian Church of Scotland asserted and vindicated. Forrester, Thomas, 1635?-1706. 1684 (1684) Wing F1597; ESTC R36468 441,276 728

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and_o his_o episcopal_a sectator_n he_o do_v not_o right_o expound_v his_o text_n while_o distinguish_v that_o which_o he_o acknowledge_v the_o apostle_n make_v one_o &_o the●…_n same_o jerome_n tell_v we_o of_o their_o common_a government_n of_o the_o church_n together_o with_o the_o bishop_n from_o who_o gratian_n
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informer_n will_v not_o dare_v to_o say_v that_o our_o prelate_n now_o have_v their_o power_n by_o presbyter_n election_n as_o these_o ancient_a bishopes_n 3_o it_o be_v also_o clear_a that_o in_o these_o first_o time_n when_o the_o episcopus_fw-la praeses_fw-la be_v set_v up_o and_o for_o some_o age_n afterward_o not_o only_o the_o presbyter_n but_o the_o people_n also_o have_v a_o great_a interest_n in_o their_o choice_n cyprian_n epist_n 68_o speak_v of_o the_o choice_n of_o bishop_n say_v that_o pleb●…_n maxim_n habet_fw-la potestatem_fw-la the_o people_n have_v main_o a_o power_n and_o that_o plebe_fw-la present_n that_o be_v in_o the_o people_n presence_n they_o be_v set_v up_o which_o he_o say_v be_v a_o power_n they_o have_v descend_v upon_o they_o de_fw-fr divina_fw-la auctoritate_fw-la that_o be_v from_o the_o divine_a authority_n and_o this_o have_v the_o approbation_n of_o one_fw-mi african_a synod_n consult_v by_o the_o church_n of_o spain_n as_o to_o election_n athanas_n epist_n ad_fw-la orthodox_n condemn_v the_o come_n in_o of_o a_o bishop_n without_o the_o people_n consent_n as_o a_o breach_n not_o only_o of_o one_fw-mi ecclesiastic_a constitution_n but_o one_fw-mi apostolic_a precept_n see_v smect_n page_n 26._o prove_a this_o at_o large_a that_o bishop_n be_v elect_v by_o the_o people_n cyprian_a lib._n 1._o epist._n 4._o nomine_fw-la synodi_fw-la africanae_fw-la videmus_fw-la de_fw-la divina_fw-la authoritate_fw-la descendere_fw-la ut_fw-la sacer_fw-la do_v plebe_fw-la present_n sub_fw-la omnium_fw-la oculis_fw-la deligatur_fw-la etc._n etc._n that_o the_o priest_n be_v choose_v under_o the_o eye_n of_o all_o the_o people_n be_v present_a and_o approve_v as_o fit_a and_o worthy_a by_o a_o public_a testimony_n this_o he_o say_v we_o see_v descend_v from_o divine_a authority_n &_o ibid._n diligenter_fw-la the_o traditione_n divina_fw-la &_o apostolica_fw-la traditione_n tenendum_fw-la est_fw-la quod_fw-la apud_fw-la nos_fw-la fere_n &_o per_fw-la provincias_fw-la universas_fw-la tenetur_fw-la ut_fw-la episcopus_fw-la deligatar_n plebi_fw-la cui_fw-la ordinatur_fw-la present_n etc._n etc._n that_o it_o be_v to_o to_o be_v hold_v from_o the_o divine_a and_o apostolic_a tradition_n as_o almost_o through_o all_o province_n it_o be_v observe_v that_o that_o the_o bishop_n be_v choose_v in_o the_o people_n presence_n over_o who_o he_o be_v ordain_v etc._n etc._n he_o testify_v that_o thus_o cornelius_n be_v choose_v bishop_n of_o rome_n lib._n 4_o epist_n 2._o grat._n do_v 62._o can_v nulla_fw-la ratio_fw-la fuit_fw-la ut_fw-la inter_fw-la episcopos_fw-la habeantur_fw-la qui_fw-la nec_fw-la a_o clero_fw-la sunt_fw-la electi_fw-la nec_fw-la a_o plebibus_fw-la sunt_fw-la expetiti_fw-la no_o reason_n permitt_v that_o they_o shall_v be_v hold_v bishop_n who_o be_v neither_o choose_v by_o the_o clergy_n nor_o desire_v by_o the_o people_n so_o ambrose_n be_v choose_v by_o the_o citticen_n of_o milan_n flavianus_n by_o those_o of_o 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