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A27112 Certamen religiosum, or, A conference between the late King of England and the late Lord Marquesse of Worcester concerning religion together with a vindication of the Protestant cause from the pretences of the Marquesse his last papers which the necessity of the King's affaires denyed him oportunity to answer. Bayly, Thomas, d. 1657? 1651 (1651) Wing B1507; ESTC R23673 451,978 466

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22._o 32._o and_o so_o he_o pray_v both_o for_o he_o and_o other_o even_o for_o all_o that_o belong_v unto_o he_o i_o pray_v for_o they_o say_v he_o i_o pray_v not_o for_o the_o world_n but_o for_o they_o which_o thou_o have_v give_v i_o for_o they_o be_v thou_o joh._n 17._o 9_o and_o vers_fw-la 11._o holy_a father_n keep_v through_o thy_o own_o name_n those_o who_o thou_o have_v give_v i_o so_o the_o apostle_n tell_v we_o that_o who_o god_n do_v predestinate_a they_o he_o also_o call_v viz._n according_a to_o his_o purpose_n vers_fw-la 28._o and_o who_o he_o call_v they_o he_o also_o justify_v and_o who_o he_o justify_v they_o he_o also_o glorify_v rom._n 8._o 30._o this_o clear_o show_v that_o all_o that_o be_v once_o justify_v shall_v certain_o be_v glorify_v and_o consequent_o that_o justify_v faith_n once_o have_v can_v be_v quite_o lose_v again_o they_o that_o true_o believe_v be_v the_o son_n of_o god_n gal._n 3._o 26._o now_o the_o servant_n abide_v not_o in_o the_o house_n 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