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A15057 An ansvvere to the Ten reasons of Edmund Campian the Iesuit in confidence wherof he offered disputation to the ministers of the Church of England, in the controuersie of faith. Whereunto is added in briefe marginall notes, the summe of the defence of those reasons by Iohn Duræus the Scot, being a priest and a Iesuit, with a reply vnto it. Written first in the Latine tongue by the reuerend and faithfull seruant of Christ and his Church, William Whitakers, Doctor in Diuinitie, and the Kings Professor and publike reader of Diuinitie in the Vniuersitie of Cambridge. And now faithfully translated for the benefit of the vnlearned (at the appointment and desire of some in authoritie) into the English tongue; by Richard Stocke, preacher in London. ...; Ad Rationes decem Edmundi Campiani Jesuitæ responsio. English Whitaker, William, 1548-1595.; Campion, Edmund, Saint, 1540-1581. Rationes decem. English.; Stock, Richard, 1569?-1626.; Whitaker, William, 1548-1595. Responsionis ad Decem illas rationes.; Durie, John, d. 1587. Confutatio responsionis Gulielmi Whitakeri ad Rationes decem. Selections. 1606 (1606) STC 25360; ESTC S119870 383,859 364

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that_o term_n from_o i_o be_v you_o so_o far_o spend_v that_o you_o be_v not_o able_a to_o charge_v we_o with_o any_o true_a crime_n but_o shameless_o to_o object_v those_o thing_n against_o we_o from_o which_o we_o of_o all_o other_o be_v far_a off_o for_o who_o do_v ever_o more_o vehement_o disallow_v or_o more_o strong_o confute_v this_o paradox_n of_o the_o stoic_n than_o our_o divine_n who_o you_o now_o pursue_v all_o record_n of_o these_o time_n may_v be_v witness_n hereof_o our_o book_n church_n and_o school_n be_v witness_n as_o also_o both_o the_o civil_a and_o church_n discipline_n may_v be_v a_o witness_n do_v you_o think_v that_o you_o can_v creep_v
remember_v as_o the_o patriarch_n prophet_n and_o apostle_n be_v to_o show_v she_o be_v of_o the_o communion_n of_o saint_n ibid._n &_o 306._o &_o nota_fw-la 17_o prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a rise_v not_o from_o the_o scripture_n but_o from_o the_o excessive_a love_n of_o the_o live_n to_o the_o dead_a ibid._n 18_o augustine_n never_o pray_v for_o his_o mother_n as_o think_v she_o to_o be_v in_o purgatory_n ibid._n 19_o the_o ancient_a father_n be_v to_o be_v judge_v of_o not_o by_o one_o particular_a judgement_n but_o by_o their_o constant_a opinion_n ibid._n 20_o the_o monk_n of_o popery_n much_o unlike_o the_o monk_n of_o ancient_a time_n 307_o 21_o satyrus_n challenge_v by_o campian_n for_o this_o because_o he_o can_v swim_v ibid._n 22_o the_o schoolman_n differ_v often_o in_o matter_n of_o faith_n 308._o nota_fw-la 23_o papist_n and_o the_o jesuit_n live_v as_o if_o there_o be_v no_o heaven_n ibi_fw-la 24_o the_o doctrine_n of_o papist_n be_v such_o as_o whosoever_o hold_v it_o whole_o can_v reign_v with_o christ_n 309_o 25_o antichrist_n of_o rome_n have_v enlarge_v hell_n more_o than_o all_o tyrant_n and_o heretic_n ibid._n 26_o the_o cause_n why_o christian_n resort_v so_o much_o to_o jerusalem_n after_o christ_n death_n 310_o 27_o superstitious_a pilgrimage_n be_v contrary_a to_o the_o word_n and_o condemn_v by_o gregory_n nyssen_n and_o bernard_n ibid._n nota_fw-la 28_o the_o cause_n why_o the_o jew_n hate_n christian_n be_v the_o gospel_n not_o the_o spoil_n of_o they_o of_o their_o priesthood_n and_o kingdom_n which_o be_v do_v by_o heathenish_a tyrant_n ibid._n nota_fw-la 29_o the_o papist_n great_a friend_n to_o the_o jew_n allow_v they_o toleration_n 311_o 30_o papist_n be_v not_o the_o offspring_n of_o the_o father_n 312_o 31_o light_n be_v use_v by_o christian_n only_o when_o they_o be_v force_v to_o meet_v in_o the_o night_n and_o after_o without_o any_o ground_n of_o scripture_n custom_n bring_v they_o to_o be_v light_v at_o noon_n day_n 312._o &_o nota_fw-la 32_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n be_v once_o poor_a when_o it_o have_v wooden_a chalice_n and_o golden_a priest_n but_o v●bane_n the_o pope_n make_v all_o the_o minister_a dish_n of_o silver_n 313._o nota_fw-la 33_o constantine_n quiet_v the_o trouble_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n and_o since_o his_o time_n as_o s●e_n have_v increase_v in_o wealth_n so_o she_o have_v decrease_v in_o piety_n ibid._n 34_o constantine_n be_v not_o baptize_v by_o sylvester_n bishop_n of_o rome_n who_o be_v dead_a long_o before_o his_o baptism_n 314_o 35_o constantine_n use_v the_o cross_n in_o his_o arm_n and_o banner_n but_o never_o worship_v it_o ibid._n 36_o constantine_n have_v not_o the_o low_a place_n in_o the_o council_n of_o nice_a but_o the_o chief_a ibid._n 37_o the_o turk_n never_o less_o prevail_v they_o since_o luther_n time_n 315_o 38_o the_o pope_n and_o his_o deal_n do_v much_o enlarge_v the_o turk_n by_o divide_v the_o empire_n ibid._n 39_o the_o turk_n be_v great_a enemy_n to_o the_o greek_a church_n then_o to_o the_o latin_a 316_o 40_o simon_n magus_n deny_v all_o freewill_n unto_o man_n which_o protestant_n do_v not_o neither_o do_v caluine_n ibid._n &_o nota_fw-la 41_o protestant_n be_v far_o from_o that_o error_n of_o the_o novatians_n touch_v the_o repentance_n of_o those_o who_o be_v fall_v ibid._n 42_o they_o be_v far_o different_a from_o the_o manichee_n in_o the_o matter_n of_o baptism_n 317_o 43_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n for_o along_o time_n be_v more_o excellent_a than_o the_o rest_n and_o so_o account_v yet_o for_o all_o that_o it_o never_o have_v neither_o in_o that_o respect_n ought_v to_o have_v dominion_n over_o the_o rest_n 318._o &_o nota_fw-la 44_o augustine_n and_o the_o council_n of_o carthage_n forbid_v that_o the_o bishop_n of_o the_o chief_a sea_n shall_v not_o be_v call_v prince_n of_o priest_n ibid._n and_o to_o it_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n submit_v himself_o for_o a_o time_n 319._o &_o nota_fw-la 45_o the_o greek_a church_n be_v opposite_a to_o the_o roman_a church_n and_o have_v her_o bishoply_n succession_n ibid._n 46_o the_o papist_n have_v not_o overthrow_v the_o idol_n of_o the_o heathen_a but_o fill_v the_o world_n full_a of_o their_o idol_n 321_o 47_o the_o jesuite_n have_v divide_v christ_n and_o have_v no_o propriety_n in_o the_o name_n of_o jesus_n ibid._n &_o nota_fw-la 48_o luther_n preach_v the_o true_a christ_n the_o papist_n neither_o have_v he_o nor_o preach_v he_o 322_o 49_o brittany_n receive_v t●e_v faith_n many_o age_n before_o august_n the_o monk_n come_v who_o bring_v more_o evil_a than_o good_a with_o he_o ibid._n the_o end_n of_o the_o content_n to_o the_o most_o learned_a university_n men_n flourish_a both_o at_o oxford_n and_o cambridge_n edmond_n campian_n send_v greeting_n when_o i_o return_v most_o worthy_a man_n into_o this_o island_n a_o year_n ago_o upon_o commandment_n of_o my_o superior_n according_a to_o the_o order_n of_o that_o religion_n which_o i_o 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