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A75582 The just mans defence, or, The royal conquest being the declaration of the judgement of James Arminius, Doctor of Divinity in the University of Leyden, concerning the principall points of religion, before the States of Holland and VVestfriezland / translated for the vindication of truth, by Tobias Conyers, sometimes of Peter-house in Cambridge.; Declaratio sententiae de predestinatione. English Arminius, Jacobus, 1560-1609.; Conyers, Tobias, 1628-1687. 1657 (1657) Wing A3700A; ESTC R208013 52,267 187

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but lightly divulged this way would greatly prejudice my innocencie and the Articles be imposed upon me which I there openly professed never issued from me neither did they agree with my judgement neither as far as I could judge with the word of God Things thus passing 'twixt him and me in the presence of two Witnesses I judged it requisite to mention the same in the Convention because of these persons being present who had read the Articles supposing them to be mine as some of them confirmed to mee which accordingly I did The Convention being about to dissolve their acts and proceedings register'd and some of the Members injoined to give an account thereof to the Lords the States General I moved the Brethren they would be pleased to stay a little having something to offer to them which they consenting to I told them the five Articles then in my hands the tenor of which I briefly read to them I had certainly found to be sent abroad into several Provinces as Zealand and the Diocesse of Utrecht by some of this Assembly and read by some Ministers in their publike Meetings and look't upon as comprehending my Judgement I there solemnly with a good conscience in the presence of God and before all that Convention professed that these points of Religion were not mine neither did they contain my judgement and this I repeated over and over again humbly beseeching the brethren they would not so easily credit those flying reports of me neither so lightly entertain that as coming from me dispersed so much to my prejudice To this answer was made by one of the Convention I should do wel to signifie to the brethren what I approved or disliked in those Articles whereby they might come to some knowledge of my judgement which motion was seconded by some one But I returned this Convention was not summoned for any such end that we had sit long enough and that the Lords the States expected an answer And thus we dissolved no man urging it any further or testifying their joynt-consent by any perswasive to the reasonableness of it Nay some there present gave out as I afterward understood that they had it in special command not to enter a debate of any Doctrine which if it had fallen out they would presently have deserted the Convention and therefore the soliciting of me herein was far from being the minde of the whole Assembly This is a true relation Most Noble and Potent States of my brethrens solicitation and my refusall whence in my opinion its clearly manifest if respect be had to their request and the manner of it to my deniall and the ground thereof together with my Presentments herein there was no cause for this my accusation Their request leading to a Declaration of my self in the matters of faith was not in my apprehension grounded upon the least reason having never administred cause to them by teaching that at any time oppugnant to the Word of God the Confession or Catec●isme of the Belgick Churches why they should desire this of me more then any other having often avouched my readiness to give way if any fruit shal be judged likely to come thereof that this should be inquired into in a Synod either Provincial or National that a further knowledge may be had thereof The manner of their Desire by Deputies did manifestly dislike me being much oppressed with the prejudice of the Synod which is not presumed to solicite any man to a conference by their Deputies without cause given them so to do therefore 't was not safe to admit of any such thing lest by that means I should confess my self guilty of teaching something contrarie to what was right Reasons of my refusal were these First not being under the Synod of South or North-Holland but having other Superiours of my owne to whom I stood bound to give an account of my actions I could not consent to any conference with their Deputies unless with their consent and an express command from them especially it being incumbent not as a private duty upon me the Deputies themselves clearly enough intimating the Conference not to be of a private nature in denying to lay aside the Title of Deputation and proceed in their owne names with me And therefore I had sinned against my Superiors if I had not refused the same I wish their Brethren would remember there was never yet any of our Ministers subjected as a Member to their respective Synod durst at any time enter a conference without the advice of the Magistrate neither ever any particular Magistrate permit the Minister under his Jurisdiction to undertake a conference with the Deputies of the Churches unless they had first consented to it which they would often do by being present themselves by their Deputies Let them onely recollect what was done at Leyden in the cause Nomina Locorum Gouda Horna Medenblicus of Colhasius at Gouda with Hermannus Herberts at Horn in the case of Cornelius Wigyer and Medenblich in the cause of Taco Second Reason disswading me from the conference was the great inequality thereof equality being a necessary qualification in personal debates 1. They came against me with whom all things stood in a private capacity arm'd with publick Authority Now I am not ignorant how greatly they are under-propt who do any thing by vertue of this power 2. They were three in number besides the two deputed from the Synod of North-Holland with them I was alone not onely destitute of help but also of witnesses to whom as they likewise I might safely commit my affairs 3. They were not at Liberty being compelled to hang upon the judgment of their Superiors therefore strictly obliged to contend to the utmost for that opinion in Religion they were of insomuch as 't was not safe for them to admit of my reasons or arguments though never so cogent and insoluble which considered I did not see what fruit or advantage could mutually result from this conference as in equity should and which on my part was likely to do being free in my self and able by bringing my conscience in without the ppejudice of any to the examination to admit of that which my conscience convinced of the Truth should dictate to be right Of how great concernment all these things are your Highness's had known more fully if you had been present by your Deputies in that Preparatory Convention Third Reason Their own relation after the conference to the Synod could not but be divers wayes prejudicial to me whether absent or present if absent it might easily happen either by omission addition or dislocation of words by inconsiderateness in defect of understanding or imbecility in the want of memory or by the prejudice of disaffection a Narrative should be made otherwise then the truth of the thing required If present 't were difficult to escape or correct this inconvenience better credit being likely to be given to their own Deputies then to my self
been brought to the test by them neither those who follow the Augustine Confession had judged it reasonable to subject it to a new Examination and change it in some places thereof We cannot but approve this deed and judge Luther not to have done well being admonished by Philip Melancthon in the close of his life as it 's testified in writing by our Countrey-men to reduce the Eucharistical Controversie of the Lords Supper to some better agreement in refusing so to do upon this ground retorted upon Philip as 't is reported of him That by this means the whole Doctrine should be called into question for if reasons of this nature had been admitted then the endeavors of the Church of Rome had been lawful in hindring the controverting and questioning by any new scrutiny the Doctrine receiv'd in the Church for so many hundred yeers To this it 's opposed If the doctrine of the Churches should be subjected to a new Examination at the Celebration of every National Synod they would never have any thing on which they might rest and firmly lean and that it might be truly said of these Churches That they had fidem anniversariam an anual faith and were carried about hither and thither with every winde of Doctrine To which I answer First The Church have Moses and the Prophets the Evangelists and Apostles i. e. the whole Scripture of the Old New Testament wherein the necessaries to salvation are fully and clearly comprehended Vpon this the Church shall build its faith and stay thereon as upon an immovable foundation into which notwithstanding our Confessions Catechisms every determination in all causes of Faith and Religion ought to be resolv'd 2. There are some points in the Confession so certain and indubious that they will never be question'd by any but * Ex. Gr. Whether Christ be the Son of God Whether the soul be immortal Hereticks other branches are of that nature that 't were very advantagious as oft as may be to have them debated amongst learned and God-fearing men that they may be ranked as neer as possibly they can with points of greater certainty 3. It would be endeavoured that the Confession be made up of as few heads as may be and those briefly framed in Scripture-terms omitting all larger Explications Proofs Digressions heapings together of words and sentences Amplifications Exclamations and onely delivering in it the necessaries to salvation The brevity will render it less obnoxious to Errors Obloquy and Examination taking for our example the practise of the primitive Church which gave a draught of the Articles judged necessary to be believed in very few words Some there are that make a distinction betwixt the Confession and Catechism as to a review and judge the former because proper to the Belgick Churches and not so much made use of by others may with less difficulty fall under a Synodical review and examination but the Catechism not being peculiar to us but chiefly appertaining to the Palatinate Churches and of general use and concernment cannot without great detriment be brought to the test To which I answer If the Catechisme of Heydelberg must needs be the form of concord amongst the Teachers of the Churches and to which every of them is bound to subscribe its necessary to subject the same to Examination for there are no Churches ought to be in that place unto us that we should so admit of any writing composed by them as not to preserve our Liberty of examining the same And this I look upon as the principal cause why the Churches of several Provinces agreeing in the Fundamentals of Religion have framed their Confessions peculiar to every of them Let it be granted that the Heydelberg Catechism is no such form and liberty conceded in its Explication as is fitting and 't wil not be necessary either to review or examine the same the burden only of subscription thereunto removed and moderate liberty yeelded in the unfolding thereof CONCLUSION AND this is that most Noble Potent Wise and prudent Lords I have to propose to your Highnesses together with a returne of thanks to this Noble and Potent Assembly to which next after God himselfe I acknowaedg my selfe bound to give an account of all my actions that of your Clemency you have vouchsafed to heare me patiently with my solemne protestations that I am ready to entertaine a fraternal and amicable conference with my fellow brethren concerning these things or any other about which at any time any controversie may arise at what time or place or upon what occasion soever it shall be judged requisite by these Sessions And I further engage in every debate to yeeld my self moderate and flexible not less prompt to learn then teach And in as much as in every thing to be conferr'd of amongst us there are two things attendable First whether that in debate be true and then whether it be necessary to be believed unto salvation the Scriptures being the ground of our inquiry in both I do Sacredly affirm and solemnly oblige my selfe not to obtrude any point to be believed my brethren dissenting from me therein though proved by solid arguments to consent with the Scriptures unlesse I have clearly Evinced it from the Divine word it selfe and as dilucidly true so also necessary to be believed by every Christian to salvation which if my brethren will be prepared to do my opinion is there will scarce any debate or Schisme be amongst us And further I adde that I may take away all feare and jealousy that on my part may hang upon this Noble Assembly now charged and burden'd with weighty affaires upon which the peace and prosperity of our Nation and the reform'd Churches depend there will certainly be very many things and those of a high nature which I shall beare with in my fellow brethren not being Lord of another mans faith but a Minister in this to those that believe that in them may grow the Knowledg truth piety peace and joy in Christ Jesus our Lord. But if my fellow-brethren see not how they can attolerate me and grant me a place amongst them yet notwithstanding for that which concern's my self I hope no rent or division will ensue which God avert there are Schisms enough already in the Christian world its incumbent rather upon every one to diminish and abolish them In this case I 'le possess my soule in patience and my place though I shall indeavour to live so long as God shall prorogue my life for the common good of Christianity I will lay downe mindfull of that Sat Ecclesiae Sat Patriae datum FINIS These books following are to be sold by Henry Eversden at the Greyhound in Pauls Church-yard AN Exposition with Practical Observations on the Nine first Chapters of the Proverbs by Francis Taylor Minister of Canterbury in quarto An Exposition with Practicall Observations on the whole Book of Canticles in quarto by John Robotham Minister of the Gospel An Idea or body of Church-discipline in the Theorick and Practick by Mr. Rogers in quarto Imputatio Fidei Or a Treatise of Justification wherein the imputation of Faith for Righteousness mentioned in Romans 4. 5. 6th is explained by Mr. John Goodwin Minister of the Gospel in quarto The Right of Dominions or the Prerogative of Kings proved from Scripture by Dr. Welden Lucas Redivivus or the Gospel-Physitian prescribing by way of meditation divine Physick to prevent diseases not yet entred upon the soul by John Anthony Doctor in Physick in quarto Mercy in her Exaltation a Sermon preached at the Funerall of Mr. Thomas Taylor by Mr. John Goodwin in quarto Anabaptists Meribah or Waters of strife being an answer to Mr Tho. Lamb Merchant by Mr. Price one of Mr. John Goodwins Congregation The natural mans case stated or an exact map of the little world man in seventeen Sermons by Mr. Christopher Love to which is added a Sermon preached at his Funeral by Mr. Thomas Manton of Newington in 80. Gods glory in mans happiness or the freeness of Gods grace electing us by Francis Taylor of Canterbury in 80. The Lords Prayer unclasped being a vindication of it against all schismaticks and Hereticks called Enthusiasts and Fratracilli by James Harwood B. D. Hippolitus Translated out of Seneca by Edm. Prestwich Gospel publick worship or the Translation Metaphrase Analysis and Exposition of Romans 12. from vers 1 to 8th describing and prescribing the compleat pattern of Gospel worship Also an Exposition of the 18th Chapter of Matthew to which is added a discovery of Adams three-fold estate in Paradise viz. Moral Legal and Evangelical by Thomas Brewer in 80. A Comment on Ruth together with two Sermons one teaching how to live wel the other minding how to dye wel by Thomas Fuller Author of the Holy State Pearls of Eloquence or the school of Complements wherein Ladies and Gentlewomen may accomodate their Courtly practise by Will. Elder Gent. in 12. The doctrine of laying on of hands vindicated and asserted being an Answer to Lieut. Col. Paul Hobson in quarto The Male of the Flock a Sermon preached before the Lord Mayor out of the 4th of Malachy by Mr. Aggas Minister of Chynis These Books are now in the Press and ready to Publish Riverus Vniversall body of Physick in English folio The seventh day Sabbath sought out and Celebrated by The. Tillam in 8● Mr. John Goodwin in answer to Mr. Kendall and Mr. Resbury and Mr. Pauson
dry tree draw neere to this communicative and diffusive love of God that thy soule may be drenched therewith I am very well assured by the blessed word of truth there stands no decree of Reprobation like the Cherubim in the garden of Eden with a flaming sword in it's hand to keep the way from the greater part of men to the tree of life God is not contributory by any voluntary purpose or act to the perdition of any of his Creatures yet is he so great a lover if righteousnesse and justice that he will punish sin unrepented of where ever he finds it Above all things pursue peace with all men if 't be possible and holinesse without which no man shall see the Lord take not up any thing cantained in these papers for contention strife and debate O flee vaine janglings which defile the judgment corrupt the heart and tend not to edification The church of God is too too much made an Amphytheater Religion a meere digladiation the severall opinions the combatants the weapon● carnall and not Spirituall and the prize I fear Self-glory and selfe-advancement If thou knowest these things happy art thou if thou Joh. 13. 17 doest them let thy knowledge looke to practice as the fruit and thy practice to knowledg as the guide and be assured they will both lead to hapinesse as the end But not to swell this Epistle beyond its proportion let me tell thee thou must vouchfafe this peece a diligent pervsall if thou wouldest reap any profit by it expect not Rhetoricall flourishes to court thee with entic●ing words of vanity into the Authours judgment or the soft strains of Eloquence to touch thee with delight this the mind of the Authour the nature of the thing and the translation it self forbids thee Try all things by the test of the Scriptures hold fast that which is good Phil. 3. 15 16. Never the lesse whereto we have already attained let us walke by the same rule let us minde the same things and if in any thing thou he otherwise minded God shall reveal even this unto thee June 5. 1655. TO THE Noble and Potent STATES OF Holland and VVest-friezland My Supreme Lords AFter the conference betwixt M. Gomar and my self at the Hague by the command of your Highnesses before the Lords Counsellors of the Supreme Court four Ministers being present and relation made thereof to your Highnesses intimating the weight and moment of the Controversie betwixt us it afterward was thought requisite by your noble Highnesses to call both of us together with the four Ministers before you into your honourable Assembly to signifie to us all this way what you should judge most expedient for that time So it fell out Mr. Gomar confirm'd the debate a foot betwixt us to be of that grand importance that he durst not joyn issue with such an opinion as this of mine in the presence of God and more then that if it were not presently stopt 't would set the Provinces Churches Cities and Citizens together by the ears and every mans hand against his brother To all which I answered nothing at that time save that I knew not my self guilty of any such cruel opinion in Religion being confident I should never administer any just cause or ground for Schism or dissention to build upon either in Church or State in testimony whereof I was ready openly in all truth and sincerity to declare my mind in the whole matter of Religion when ever I should be commanded thereunto before this Assembly and that before I removed from the place where I then stood Upon which motion it was judged convenient by your Highnesses that I should be called before you now to make good the proffer in these Sessions and therefore it is that I now appear in this place faithfully to discharge it But in as much as a sinister report of mee hath for so long a time spread it self not only at home but abroad in forrain parts and no little evill hath ensued thereupon as if I had hitherto altogether refused being often required thereunto to declare my judgement in the business of Religion Wherefore I make it my humble request that you 'l please to give me leave ingenuously to open my self in this matter before I proceed to other things In the yeer 1605. June 30. There came to me at Leyden three Deputies of the Synod of South-Holland viz. Francis Lansberge Libert Fraxim and Daniel Volege of happy memory Ministers of their respective Churches at Roterdam the Hague and Delph being present with them two Ministers of the Synod of North-Holland namely Iohn Bogard of the Church at Harleme and Iames Roland of the Church at Amsterdam telling me in their Classical Examinations of some Students in the University of Leyden in order to their entrance into the Mininistery they received some new and unusual answers to the questions propounded contrary to the received Doctrine in the Churches which they confirmed as having been disciplined into them by me which things being so they desired a friendly conference with me to know the bottom of this matter whereby for the future they might better consult the affairs of the Church To which I answered I could no way approve this manner of process which would necessarily ever and anon multiply conference upon conference even as oft as any Student should give any new answer pretending to have learn'd the same of me therefore 't was better in my judgment when any Schollar should frame any new Responsory in his Examinations confirming the same from me which should bee judged by the Brethren contrary to the Confession and Catechism of the Belgick Churches they would send for us both together being ready upon this account at my owne charge to come whereever it should please the Brethren to appoint and this course being taken once and again the calumny or truth would plainly bee evinced And further to Mr. Lansberge urging the conference in the name of the rest answer was made that as yet I saw not how I could admit of any such thing with them appearing as Deputies from the Synod to whom they stood bound to give an account of all things done by them unless my Superiours were likewise privy and consenting and also commanding me hereunto besides it 's being joyned with no small hazard if so be I should wholly cast my selfe upon their faithfulness in their own relation of the event of our conference to the Synod And further that they had no cause why they should require any such thing of me not conscious to my self of delivering any Doctrine either at Leyden or Amsterdam contrary to the Word of God Confession or Catechism of the Churches in Holland That hitherto not any such thing was ever objected to me being confident it would not easily be effected if the Objector should be obliged to make good his Objections by proof and in default thereof to bear the blame himself Notwithstanding if they would