farre more faire then Helene of the Grecians We ought therefore more to striue for it then they did for the other Beside I haue not held vp my shield at a shadow no man striking me or made answer where no man called me or run forward no man thrusting me for in three seuerall places it hath pleased this Popes champion to challenge me and so hath to my thinking bid me the base and cast downe his gauntlet for me to take it vp I considered that it was not fit in this case to do as children that being stricken do lay their hands vpon the sore place and crie but to requite him with the like that first gaue the aduēture to returne the smart of the blow vpon his face that first bent his fist I say therefore with Hierome Si superbum sit respondisse multò sit superbius accusasse If it be thought an insolent part to answer it is much more to accuse and he is iudged contentious not which preuenteth a further mischiefe but first prouoketh thereunto Neither can I conceale that to this enterprise I was incited and stirred vp by the reuerend Lord Bishop of London by whose aduise and counsell I addressed my selfe thereunto saying with Augustine Ad compellendum non potest esse molestus exactor quando ad reddendum deuotus est debitor The exactor is not troublesome in requiring when the debtor is willing in rendring I haue hitherto shewed the motiues that induced me to this worke now also I will briefly declare what I haue done I haue discouered in this treatise aboue two hundred vntruths and slaunders by this libeller without al conscience forged without all modestie vttered I haue answered all the politicke obiections by him cunningly against the Protestants faith deuised I haue his owne engines wherewith he would haue battered ours vpon his owne forts returned The businesse I thanke God was not great which I found in the vnfolding of this Alogicall I should say Apologicall Epistle But as Caesar said of a certaine citie which at the very first view he ouercame Veni vidi vici I came to it I saw it I tooke it so may I say with Hierome Sententias eius prodidisse superasse est The very laying open of his sayings is a sufficient confutation His obiections required no long time to answer to refell his arguments it was sufficient to see them and to ouerthrow his cause it was enough to open his book And as Lueullus said of his enemies that came against him in compleat harnesse That it would be more labour to spoyle them then to foyle them so had I as much a do to collect his reasons as to confute thē The gaining of diuerse peeces of this book which were negligently lost was more trouble to me thē the first framing of that which I had carefully writtē Now I haue also the more willingly thrust my selfe into this businesse to make knowne to the people of God the Lords vnspeakeable goodnesse towards vs who hath giuen vs a Prince resolued to professe in himselfe and protect in vs the same faith of the Gospell which was by Q. Elizabeth maintained that still we may exercise our pens against the common aduersarie Of his Maiesties raigne we may truly pronounce as the Prophet of Salomons In his dayes shall the righteous flourish Psal. 72.7 All those shall be sure we verily trust to liue in peace and enioy his fauour that loue the truth and follow righteousnes God hath sent vs another Theodosius of whō Ambrose saith Cùm omnes homines vobis militent tum ipsi vos omnipotenti Deo sacrae fidei militatis As al men do war fight for you so you for Almightie God and the sacred Faith Phocion being asked of the Orators what benefit he had bestowed vpon the city None but this saith he that while I was gouernor none of you had cause to make a funeral Oratiō So I trust that Religion hath gotten such an honourable patron that Preachers the Orators of Christians shall haue no cause to mourne for the persecution trouble and imprisonment of such as professe the Gospell as in former times of persecution vnder Popish tyranny but to reioyce in the peaceable fruition of the Gospel And how much are we to ioy in so Christian a Prince who doth not onely publickely professe himselfe to be no Papist but hath declared so sound a iudgement in some questions controuersed among Protestants that we may all frō his princely mouth take out a new lesson and learne to reforme our erroneous conceits Our kingly Ecclesiastes saith That all that is necessarie to saluation is contained in the Scriptures 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 p. 19 otherwise then some haue affirmed that the light of nature and the light of Scripture ioyntly not seuerally are compleat to saluation for hence it followeth that the Scripture seuerally and alone is not compleate to saluation We are taught to vse onely Scripture for interpretation of Scripture if we would neuer swarue from the analogie of faith in expounding as Scripture is interpreted by Scripture so the Scripture is drawne by Scripture not by the authoritie of the Church Beware to beleeue with the Papists the Churches authoritie better then your owne knowledge How say some then that the word cannot possibly assure vs that we do well to thinke that it is the word of God No man is able to keepe the law or any part thereof as the Apostle saith That which was impossible to the law inasmuch as it was weake because of the flesh c. how then is it not impossible in any sense to be preserued frō all sin in this life How can a man do more and God approue more then is commaunded as some haue taught if we come farre short of that which is commaunded If Faith onely iustifieth as Protestants hold and since we could not be saued by doing we might at the least be saued by beleeuing 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 p. 8. how then can our workes be any meanes to blot out sinne or to procure pardon If it be the property of faith to apply the promises for faith is a sure perswasion and apprehension of the promises of God applying them to our soule p. 11. as the Apostle saith By grace are ye saued through faith Eph. 2.8 how can the Sacraments giue grace and be causes of Iustification and as necessarie in their place as beliefe it selfe If whatsoeuer is not of faith is sinne Rom. 14.23 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 p. 13. how can naturall workes be acceptable to God If we cānot think any thing as of our selues and if al that do good are inspired of God therto how is mās wil apt naturally to take or refuse any particular obiect whatsoeuer If the Pope be Antichrist and the head of a false hypocritical Church how then cā the Church of Rome be the family of
reclaymed that all creatures haue done homage to them the sea and waters against nature supported them the rauening foules nourished them c. the deuils themselues with trembling obeyed them The Disswasion 1 THese stories being admitted which are reported by the forenamed authors of the miracles wrought by the Apostles holie Martyrs and Confessors of the Primitiue Church though we haue great cause to suspect that some of these stories haue been corrupted by their euill handling thorough whose fingers since they haue passed and that in many things the authors themselues might be too credulous yet what doth this aduantage the aduersaries cause Let him first proue that the Apostles and the holie Martyrs and Confessors were Papists before he seeke to winne grace by their miracles He might as well haue mustred on his side all the signes and miracles wrought by Christ and his Apostles as these which were done by holie men continuing in the Apostolike faith and doctrine 2 But they can tell vs of miracles to take away this first answere which were effected by such men as were knowne to be great patrones of diuers popish superstitions such were Odo Dunstane Editha Bernake Bartlemew a Monke of Durrham Augustine the Monke Brendane with such others And that euery one may iudge of the truth herein I will produce the miracles ascribed to these Pope-saints and martiall them in their order Of Odo it is reported that he caused a sword to come flying into King Ethelstanes sheath when he had lost his owne as he should fight with Analanus that he kept the Church of Canterburie that no raine dropt vpon it while the roofe was in making that when he brake the hoast ouer the chalice being at Masse it dropped bloud Such like stuffe is fathered vpon Dunstane how being tempted with the cogitation of women he caught the diuel with a paire of tongs by the nose and held him fast how a Lute hanging vpon the wall did sing and play alone without any touch of finger how by making the signe of the crosse hee set a great beame of an house being displaced into his right roome againe How the Virgine Mary with her fellowes appeared visiblie to him singing and the Angels often talked familiarlie with him Of Editha this tale goeth that her bodie being taken vp by Dunstane all was found corrupted but onely her thombe wherewith she vsed to crosse and her bellie for her chastitie as she her selfe is said to haue expounded the mysterie appearing to Dunstane yet this chast Nun is detected in the truer histories to haue been King Edgars concubine by whom she had a base sonne whosoeuer worshipped the Tombe of this Editha if they were blind deafe halt mad were healed saith the Legend writer Bernacus went ouer the sea vpon a broad stone turned Oake leaues into loaues stones into fishes water into wine his Cow being cut in pieces he restored to life The same author saith that Christ appeared to Austine and talked familiarly with him that Bartilmew saluted a wooden Crucifixe and it bowed downe and resaluted him againe that Brendan caused a fountaine to rise out of a drie ground and was caried into Paradise A thousand such tales their Breuiaries Itineraries Legends containe 3. And that wee thinke it not strange that Poperie so aboundeth with miracles the Pagan Idolaters shall vie with them at this stake and the best cards take all For raising of the dead they will tell vs that Zamolxis in Scythia Pythagoras in Italie Ramsimitus in Egypt Protesilaus in Thessalia Hercules in Tenarus all went downe to hell that is were dead and raised vp againe But Celsus that Heathen scoffer doth deride these fables For strange transmutations and metamorphoses there shall we finde that Amphiaraus speare was chaunged into a Laurell tree being pricked downe in the ground of Smyrna chaunged into Myrrha by chaunging certes of the letters and not otherwise of Diomedes companions turned into birds Vlysses fellowes into beasts of the Arcadians into wolues Lucianus and Apuleius into Asses For miraculous passage vpon the seas they will report vnto vs how Arion the Musician and Enalus with the Virgine which he loued leaping into the sea were borne vp by the Delphines and caried safe to land What can now the Romane Iconolaters say more for themselues in this kind then the Pagan Idolaters If Religion should be tried by miracles the one as well as the other can tell vs tales enough if wee will beleeue them But what is to be thought of these lying and fained miracles Augustine will tell vs Remoueantur ista vel mendacia fallacium hominum vel portenta mendacium spirituum Remoue out of the way these lies of deceitfull men or strange deceits of lying spirits 4. I will further shew the vanitie of the forged and deuised miracles by these reasons following First it is euident by the testimonie of the ancient Fathers that miracles were not vsuall in their time Ambrose saith Quare nunc non ita fit vt habeant homines gratiam Dei qua operentur miracula Why haue not men now adaies grace giuen them to worke miracles Augustine saith Modò iam caeci non aperit oculos miraculo Domini c. Now the blind receiueth not his bodily sight by the miracle of our Lord but the blind heart receiueth sight by the oracle or word of the Lord now the dead bodie riseth not but the soule riseth that was dead in the liuing bodie now the deafe eares are not opened c. Bernard saith Licet nostra non habeamus miracula c. Although we haue no miracles of our owne yet the miracles of our patrone are a consolation to vs. Seeing then these Fathers thought that they had no power to worke miracles what impudencie is it against their owne iudgement to ascribe miracles vnto them As an Epistle goeth vnder Augustines name wherein he is fained to report that as he was about to write a letter to Hierome his soule being lately departed appeared vnto him and talked with him Likewise how Hierome after his death caused the soules of diuers to returne to their bodies and so they reuiued againe how hee deliuered one condemned to hell and how sixteene blind persons were restored to sight in the translation of his bodie Of Bernard it is auouched that after his death he healed eleuen blind tenne maimed and eighteene lame persons and all these miracles Bellarmine iustifieth to haue been so truly done How are they not ashamed to father such fables vpon the Fathers contrarie to their own iudgment Secondly this may be an euident argument that these Legends smell because they make miracles so common to flow from them in heapes as that Hierome healed sixteene blind at once Bernard in one day of all infirmities 39. persons Hilarion is affirmed to haue cured 200. possessed with diuels at Cyprus beside a
Pope himselfe for proofe he bringeth none We know what the Lawe saith Solam testationem prolatam c. nec causam probatam nulliu◠esse momenti That a witnesse produced and no cause or matter proued is of no force 3 A religion that hath publikely by the word of God and godlie lawes with full consent of Parliament abrogated and condemned all grosse papisticall errors as of iustification by works art 11. of works of supererogation art 14. of freewill art 10. of purgatorie art 22. of speaking in the congregation in an vnknowne toong art 24. of the fiue popish sacraments art 25. of the bodilie presence of Christ in the sacrament art 28. of receiuing in one kinde art 30. of the blasphemous sacrifice of the Masse art 31. of the vnlawfulnesse of Priests mariage art 32. of worshipping of images inuocation of Saints art 22. that the Pope hath no iurisdiction in England art 37. What will not this impudēt man now dare to say who boldly affirmeth that Poperie is not by publike authoritie condemned in England Now then because their Lawe saith Qui crimen quod obiecit non probauerit similem poenam sustineat He that proueth not the crime obiected shall endure the like punishment so this thing obiected redoundeth vpon his owne head For true it is that the faith of Protestants is not condemned by the auncient Canons and Decrees of the Romane Church but receiueth plentifull witnesse frō thence as is alreadie shewed in diuers hundred questions 4 A religion which hath continued these 1600. yeares in the true Church of Christ not as Poperie which for most of their opinions must come short of this computation by 800. yeares which is full of errors and contradictions in the Decrees of Popes and Councels For errors the Councell of Neocesarea ca. 7. decreeth that the Priest should neither giue consent to second mariage nor be present at the mariage feast but rather enioyne penance for it and so in effect condemneth second mariage Toletan 1. ca. 17. He that in steed of a wife hath a concubine is not to be repelled from the Communion This Councell is approued by Leo 4. as it may appeare Can. 21. and the other also Distinc. 20. ca. 1. In the sixt generall Synod Can. 2. the Councell vnder Cypriane that approued the rebaptizing of such as were baptized by heretikes is confirmed c. 72. Mariages betweene Catholikes and heretikes irritas existimari are iudged to be void contrarie to S. Paule 1. Cor. 7.13 Yet this sixt Synod cum omnib canonib with all the canons is receiued and approued by Adriane Distinc. 16. c. 5. Nicen. 2. act 5. it was concluded that Angels haue bodies of their owne and are circumscriptible multoties in corpore suo visi and haue been often seene in their own bodies which is a manifest error for Angels of themselues are inuisible spirits Nicolaus 1. de baptis decret 1. alloweth baptisme only made in the name of Christ without expresse mention of the Trinitie contrary to the scriptures Math. 28.19 Nicolaus 2. in a Councell at Rome where Berengarius recanted resolued vpon this conclusion Christi corpus sensualiter manib sacerdotis tractari frangi fidelium dentib atteri That the true bodie of Christ was handled sensiblie by the Priests hands broken and chawed by the teeth of the faithfull de consecr dist 2. c. 42. which grosse opinion the moderne Papists are ashamed of For contradictions Concil Carthag 3. c. 47. the Apocryphal bookes of Tobie Iudith Ecclesiasticus Macchabees with the rest are made Canonicall Laodicen can vltim these bookes are reiected out of the Canon and yet both these Synodes are confirmed by Leo 4. Distinct 20. c. 1. In a Councell at Rome vnder Stephen 7. all the acts and decrees of Pope Formosus are repealed in a Councell of Rauenna vnder Iohn 9. they were againe reuiued Gregor 3. epist. ad Bonifac. determineth virum vxore infirmitate correpta c. that the husband the wife being weake and not able to do her dutie may marrie an other Nicholas 1. decreeth the contrarie that the mariage of such ought not to be dissolued Alexander 3. forbiddeth mariage to be made with the sister of her that was betrothed and is deceased Benedict doth determine the contrarie Pope Alexander iudgeth matrimonie contracted with per verba de praesenti by words of the present tence and consummate with another to be voide Benedict determineth the contrarie that the mariage consummate though a contract made before in that forme with an other is not to be violated Nicolaus 3. Abdicationem proprietatis rerum c. That Christ did by his example abandon the verie propertie of things Ioannes 22. defineth the contrarie that the opinion of them that say Christ and his Apostles had nothing is erronea haeretica is erroneous and hereticall The Councell of Constance sess 13. doth excommunicate all those that receiue the Communion vnder both kinds The Councell of Basile graunteth to the Bohemians the vse of both kinds The Councels of Constance and Basile determined that a generall Councell hath authoritie aboue the Pope The contrarie was concluded Lateranens sub Leon. 10. c. 11. Many such contradictions in matters of faith and doctrine may be found in the Romane corporation which otherwhere are set downe more at large to the number of 250. and in another worke 300. more of their differences and repugnances are expressed Therefore this petifogger for poperie is detected of great vntruth that no error or contradiction was euer admitted in their religion Wherefore he being thus notoriouslie conuinced of a false testimonie is worthie to passe vnder the censure of the Epaunens Synode reus capitalis criminis censeatur c. to be held guiltie of a capitall crime And concerning this spirit of contradiction among the Romanists we may say with Ambrose Diuersa distantia prompserunt non locorum separati sed mendaciorum diuortio They haue vttered diuers and contrarie things not separated in place but differing in lying And as Melanthius said that the Citie of Athens was saued by the disagreement of the Orators so I doubt not but that this diuision among them shall tend to the further establishing of the truth For as Plutarke sayth of the contradictions of Poets that they will not suffer them to haue any great strength to do hurt so the manifold diuisions in Poperie shall haue no force to seduce such as are wise The eight Perswasion 1 I Defend not a religion c. which separateth man from his God and creator by so many sinnes and iniquities and yet hath no grace no sacrament for men of reason and actuall offences no meanes or preseruatiue to preuēt them c. for that instrument of iustifying faith which be no benefite vnto them which by their owne grounds haue no faith at all
whole disordred crue calleth those assertions hereticall and traiterous yea those wicked Popish Iudasâ—â—ed Diuines at Salamanca in Spaine resolued vpon these diuellish conclusions That they sinned mortally which aided the English in Ireland that it was a meritorious act to assist Tyrone that the Catholikes in Ireland which did fight against the Queene were by no construction Rebels Beside these villanous positions which no estate in the world could endure the Iebusites and Masse Priests practises haue been most odious against the life of our Soueraigne the treasons are confessed by the secular Priests themselues Therefore if the state of France vpon one attempt of Iohn Chastel against the King of France suborned by the Iesuites expelled the whole order greater cause hath the state of England hauing experience of many wicked plots deuised and practised both by the secular and irregular Masse Priests to exile the whole societie of both to make their returne into the land of treason Haue not these miscreants now great cause to complaine of persecution and to glorie of such filthie martyrdome I say vnto them with Augustine against the Donatists Recte haec à vobis dicerentur quaerentibus martyrum gloriam si haberetis martyrum causam These things were well alleaged of you that seeke the glorie of Martyrs if you had the cause of Martyrs 2. Nay rather these vngodly and seditious practisers by their impietie obstinacie idolatrie doe persecute the state then are persecuted of the state as Augustine saith Grauius Saram ancilla per superbiam persecuta est quam eam Sara per debitam disciplinam The bondmaid did more persecute Sara by her obstinacie then Sara did her by due discipline and seueritie 3. Yea these froward persons that haue been so often by proclamation forewarned to be packing whereas the law is a sufficient monition it selfe and diuers of them whereas they had deserued death by the law were but exiled and banished as 21. at one time and 31. at another aduenturing notwithstanding to enter the land whether more of a superstitious minde to peruert soules or of an ambitious desire to gaine a kingdome to the Popes seignorie it is hard to say or which is more like of a treacherous resolution to destroy both and so rushing vpon the pikes are accessary to their owne death and cause of their trouble themselues Protestants in the late daies of persecution could not obtaine that fauour to be banished neither were they suffered to depart but Ports and Hauens were laid to keepe them in But this Seminarie broode may be gone if they will the passages are open for them and yet they will remaine among vs to their owne perill Wherefore we may here say againe vnto them as Augustine to the Donatists Patent â—ortae exire non vultis quam persecutionem paâ—â—â—ini nisi à vobis diligit vos persecutor vester persequitur vos furor vester ille vt fugiatis petit iste vt pereatis impellit The gates are wide open and ye will not goe out what persecution suffer you but from your selues your persecutor loueth you your owne furie persecuteth you he desireth you would be packing this forceth you to your owne perishing Wherefore it is euident that these clamorous mates suffer no persecution but punishment for their euill demerits and they suffer most iustly that no amends is requisite in this case vnlesse it be by the like But if they would be exempted from the daunger of the Princes lawes let them follow the Apostles counsell Wilt thou be without feare of the Prince doe well Rom. 13.3 And let them doe as Ambrose saith to the Emperour Ego in consistoria nisi pro te stare non didici extra palatium certare non possum qui palatij secreta nec quaero nec noui I haue learned not to stand in the imperiall consistorie but for thee neither can I striue in the Princes palace which neither know the secrets thereof nor desire So let them neither striue against the authoritie of Princes nor presse to know and knowing to bewray their secrets We desire not their companie neither haue neede of their phisicke And as Pausanias answered a Physition that said all was well with him Because saith he I vse not you for my Physition So I make no doubt but all would be well with vs if such Italianated Physitions would be packing The fourth motiue 1. You vowed it in Baptisme your promise to God to his Church to your countrie is to be performed 2. Many or most of you being of age and discretion in the time of Queene Mary haue practised and professed it 3. So many of your noble companie as are admitted to the honourable order of the Garter haue sworne it 4. You are all sworne Councellors to our Queene which by title of inheritance and at her coronation by the oath and fidelitie of a Christian Prince hath obliged her selfe to maintaine it c. The Remoue 1. They which were baptized vnder the Popish religion were baptized in the name of the Trinitie not into the name of the Pope they were entred into the profession of the Christian faith not of the Popish religion for then by this reason hee that is baptized by an heretike were bound to maintaine his heresie if baptisme in Poperie were a bond to professe that superstitious phantasie Wee denie not but that true Baptisme in substance is giuen in the Romane synagogue but that neither proueth it to be the true Church nor those baptized among them to be obliged to their religion For though we confesse with the Apostle that there is one Lord one faith one Baptisme yet are not these onely professed and had in the Church but onely fruitfully and truly professed in the Church In the which alone as Augustine saith God is not worshipped but in the which alone God is truly worshipped in the which alone faith is not kept but in the which alone faith with charitie is kept Nec in qua sola vnus baptismus habetur sed in qua sola vnus baptismus salubriter habetur Neither in the which alone is this one baptisme had but in which alone baptisme is holesomely had And this is the cause why we iterate not Baptisme giuen in Poperie because it was ministred in the name of Christ and so bindeth to the true Christian profession not to the Romane separation And therefore we say not to vse Augustines words Vt cum ad nos veneritis alterum accipiatis sed vt eum qui apud vos iam erat vtiliter accipiatis That when ye come to vs you should receiue another baptisme but that which they had with you they should hold it with profit He seemeth then erroniously to thinke that Baptisme and the Church cannot be separated that because wee renounce not Baptisme ministred in the Popish Church wee are bound together with their
for men in their sicknes to be troubled with illusions of Deuils and terrible visions seeing it is so vsuall a thing in Poperie and often happening to popish professors Did he thinke so to blind the world and possesse men with his strange reports that they could not call to minde the fearefull examples of Pope Siluester the second of Innocentius the fourth of Cardinall Crescentius whereof the first gaue his soule to the Deuill to obtaine the Papacie the second in the night was striken on the side by a certaine Bishop that appeared to him in vision and was left for halfe dead and not long after dyed the third being vicegerent for the Pope in the late Tridentine chapter sitting vp late to write letters to his vnholie Fatherhood was so frighted with the sight of a great black dog which appeared with flaming eyes and long eares that he fell by conceit thereof into a grieuous sicknes whereof he not long after dyed 5 Sir Frauncis Walsingham neyther dyed miserablie nor in despaire as he was in his life faithfull to his Prince a louer of his countrie a great patrone of schollers and martiall men sound in religion so we doubt not but he ended his dayes in comfort and peace of conscience This worthie Counsellers memorie honorable among Protestants and all that loue their countrie is odious to Papists because by his industrie and vigilant eye many dangerous conspiracies against Queene Elizabeth were discouered and by name that most horrible treason of Babington and Ballard with their accomplices in the 28. yeare of her Maiesties raigne wherein those trayterous Papists intended the vtter ouerthrow both of their countrie and religion to such indeede that excellent man was an aduersarie and for this cause this vile raker in dead mens ashes spitteth his venome at him Where he obiecteth the filthie stinke of his bodie c. as herein the testimonie of an aduersarie is little worth speaking vpon his owne bare word so he might haue remembred what is truely reported of Cardinall Wolsey that his bodie being dead was black as pitch and so heauie that sixe could scarse beare it and that it did so stinke aboue the ground that they were constrained to burie it in the night season The like end had Stephen Gardiner that great patrone of Poperie whose tongue before he died hung out of his mouth all swolne and blacke And I pray you what a sweete coâ—se was Bonners faâ— bellied carcasse that was buried full honourably as hee deserued betweene two theeues in S. Georges Churchyard in Southwarke As for the wanting of funerall pompe it is no disgrace to the dead but it was rather an honour to him whose liberall expences in the seruice of his countrie and beautifull reliefe to the liuing could leaue very little to be bestowed vpon himselfe when hee was dead Lazarus had but an homely buriall in the world yet was his soule attended vpon by Angels Augustine well saith Si aliquid prodest impio sepultura pretiosa obâ—rit pio vilis aut nulla If the wicked be profited by their sumptuous sepulture the godly is hindred by his meane buriall furniture We may say in this case of this honourable man as noble Agesilaus who forbad that any picture or monument should be made of him when he was dead giuing this reason If I haue done any thing well that shall be my monument if not no tombes or pictures are any thing worth So this mans worthie acts while he liued shall be his monument now he is dead which doe more commend him then the sumptuous pillers of some that lie not farre from him of farre vnlike desert The third Defence 1. HE taketh vpon him to proue that the Popish religion hath made the professors thereof honourable and glorious It was neuer yet saith he accounted dishonourable to any to be a professor of that religion which made him glorious pag. 82. 2. The children of the greatest Princes and Nobles were Priests and Bishops in England pag. 84. as S. Guitlacke S. Suitbert Thomas of Hereford sonne of the noble Cantilupus c. Cedda Dunstane c. pag. 83. 3. The onely order of S. Benedict hath had twentie Kings aboue 100. great Princes many Popes 1600. Archbishops 400. Bishops 15000. famous men 4. He rehearseth diuers Archbishops of Canterburie most honourable in their time Baldwine Hubert Kilwarbie Peccham Stratford Offord Braidwarden Islip Langhton with others pag. 84. The Answere 1. THe Popish religion is a dishonour to such Princes and Nobles that professe it vnlesse any man be so simple to thinke it was an honour for the Emperour Henrie the 4. to waite vpon the Pope Gregorie the 7. three daies and three nights in winter at the gates of Canossus or for Fredericke the 1. to yeeld his necke to be troad vpon by Alexander the 3. and to be rebuked for holding Pope Adrians stirrup on the wrong side or for Henriricus the 6. to suffer Pope Celestine to set the crowne on his head with his feete and to cast it off againe or for King Iohn to kneele downe at the feete of Pandolphus the Popes Legate and to surrender his Crowne to the Pope Doth not now this Popish profession adde great honour to Princes submitting themselues vnto it 2. That the sonnes of Princes haue become Priests and Bishops in the time of Poperie is not denied and so haue Priests and Bishops been made Kings and Princes as Adelualphus sonne of Egbrichus being Bishop of Winchester was made King of England anno 829. Daniel a Priest was elected King of France anno 719. It was not deuotion but ambition that made Bishops pricke forward to be Lord Chancellors Lord Treasurers chiefe Iustices of England as we finde in former ages neither was it the sanctitie of Poperie but the riches of the Clergie and their brauerie that allured vnto them the Nobilitie 3. If Bennets order haue brought foorth so many of all degrees it is more like that their fat offerings great reuenewes and idle bellies procured it then any deuotion of that sect wrought it neither is it a good argument to preferre those colours because so many haue worne them The Epicures sect had more schollers and disciples then any of the rest The Scribes and Pharisies had more followers then Christ and Diana of Ephesus was worshipped of all Asia and the whole world Act. 19.27 He hath said yet no more for the Benedictines then the Epicureans Pharisies Dianas worshippers can alleage for themselues that many Kings Philosophers Priests and many famous men were of their sects Lastly if these Iudasites haue indeed such a good opinion of Bennets rule what ailed Frier Parsons to bee so fierce against poore Barkworth a Masse-priest of the Colledge of Valledolid to cause him to be expulsed to be buffeted vpon the face and drawne by the heeles vpon the pauement because he was a
was the holinesse and meeknesse of these proud papal Archbishops 3. For their miracles they were meere forgeries such as are reported of Dunstane that he caused an Harpe to sing and play alone hanging on the wall how he held the diuel by the nose with a paire of tonges tempting him with women such were the fained miracles of Thomas Becket which were condemned by the great men of the land as fables Magnates interdixerunt ne quis martyrem Thomā nominaret ne quis miracula eius praedicaret the great men forbad that no man should call Thomas a martyr or speake of his miracles 4. Neither were many of them such learned Clarkes though some of them I confesse had more learning then true pietie or honestie as Lanfranke Anselme yet for the rest what were they Was not Augustine the founder of that Sea a great Diuine that must needs send to Gregory for resolution in these profound questions Whether a woman great with child may be baptized after how many dayes the infant ought to be receiued to baptizme and such like And it should seeme that learning in their Archbishops was not greatly requisite when Robert Burnell Bishop of Bath and Thomas Cobham two reuerend and learned men being elected were refused and Peccham a gray Frier and Reinald Bishop of Winchester an ambitious man better acquainted with suites of law being Chancellor then questions of Diuinity were appointed in their stead 5. But as I hold Bishop Cranmer in true learning and sound Diuinity to be equall to any his prodecessours so in godly constancie to go before them for he was the first and onely Martyr of that Sea that died for the truth Elphegus the 26. Archbishop was stoned to death for denying tribute to the Danes Simon Sudbury was beheaded of the rebels because he gaue counsell that the king should not come at them to heare their complaints But neither of these died in the cause of religion 6. Neither did the truth want witnesses from among these auncient Archbishops Cuthbertus the 11. Archbishop forbad all funerall exequies to be made for him after he was dead Elfricus the 26. did write certaine Sermons against transubstantiation the authenticals thereof are yet extant in the libraries of Exceter and Worcester Simon Islip forbad vpon paine of excommunication that no man should abstaine from bodily labours vpon certaine Saints dayes Therefore euen amongst them the Lord left not himselfe altogether 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 without witnesse as the Apostle sayth Wherefore he hath gained nothing by this mustering of his Popish Archbishops of whō we may say as our Sauiour of the Pharises They are blind leaders of the blind Math. 13.14 Hierome sayth well of such Quòd me damnant episcopi nō est ratio sed conspiratio quorum authoritas me opprimere potest docere non potest In that the Bishops condemne vs it is no reason but treason their authority may impeach me but not teach me Metellus because he was blind was forbidden among the Romaines to exercise his Priesthood and they had a law that no Augurs 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 hauing any soare or disease should execute their office As litle regard is to be had to these blind prelates lame and diseased in iudgement as in the same place it is expounded that it is not fit for them that are corrupted and diseased in their soules to handle Diuine things The third Inuectiue 1. IN the lawes of Henry the 8. Edward the 6. and Queene Elizabeth I will ouerthrow them 2. If they alleadge Vniuersities they are ouer-matched Oxford hath had in Catholike times thirty thousand students all euer of the same mind with vs. 3. For other Clergie men we haue had an hundred thousand more Synodes two to one in number two hundred to one p. 116. 4. If they vrge Scriptures by resorting to the Originall tongues the Greeke and Hebrew c. the victory is ours We vse more Scriptures for numbers of bookes more for diuersitie of tongues Our expositors of Scripture professed students in Diuinity c. excellent linguists many naturall borne Greekes and Hebrewes Their expositors of Scripture neuer were to be compared to those In the Parliament where their religion was decreed there was no person present that vnderstood either Greeke or Hebrew p. 117. The Defensatiue 1. THis is as like to be so as if I should say that by the Popes lawes now in force at Rome the faith of Protestants is maintained and yet I will shew twenty Canons amongst them that giue testimonie to our faith to one decree that he can alleadge amongst vs making for them this I haue already performed in Synopsis throughout Wherefore in this so shamelesse and vnreasonable assertion I will vouchsafe him no other answer but say with Augustine Non inuenio quomodo te refellerem nisi vt aut iocantem irriderem aut insanientem dolerem I know not how else to answer you then either as a iester to scorne you or as a mad man to pity you 2. The most famous Vniuersities in the world as of Herdelberge Magdobing Wittenberge Basile Geneua Vtricke Lepden Cambridge Oxford with manie more are with the Protestants King Henry for his diuorce had the consent of the most famous vniuersities in Europe Oxford was not wholly yours no not in the grossest times of popery for they cleared vnder their common seale Iohn Wickliffe and his doctrine of the suspition of heresie 3. We confesse Papists haue bene and yet are more in number so did the Pagans in multitude exceed the Christians but the Scripture hath taught vs not to follow a multitude to do euill Eccles. 23.2 Synodes both generall and prouinciall Protestants haue more on their side then Papists I referre the Reader for the truth hereof to Synopsis 4. If you would as ye say be tried by the originall Scriptures the controuersie would soone be at end but your sayings and doings agree not Why should ye be afraid to preferre the Hebrew and Greeke text before the vulgar Latine making this onely authentike in Sermons readings disputations as it was concluded in the Tridentine Chapter why did they not amend their vulgar Latine according to the originall reading still Genes 3.15 She shall breake thine head for he or it Genes 8.4 for seuenteene seuen and twenty Psal. 68.13 for liue among the pots sleepe betweene the lots and in diuerse hundred such places they swarue from the originall Ye vse indeed more Scriptures for number as all the Apocryphall workes which were neuer recorded of the Church of God vnder the law neither written by Prophets or approued by Christ and his Apostles but not for diuersitie of tongues For the Canonicall Scriptures are extant in the Hebrew Greeke and Latine the Apocripha some in the Greeke and Latine some in the Latine only You haue litle cause to brag of your popish expositors such as