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A69145 The progenie of Catholicks and Protestants Whereby on the one side is proued the lineal descent of Catholicks, for the Roman faith and religion, from the holie fathers of the primitiue Church ... and on the other, the neuer-being of Protestants or their nouel sect during al the foresayd time, otherwise then in confessed and condemned hereticks. ... Anderton, Lawrence. 1633 (1633) STC 579; ESTC S100158 364,704 286

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christ_n say_v to_o peter_n thou_o be_v peter_n and_o upon_o this_o rock_n will_v i_o build_v my_o church_n etc._n etc._n the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n be_v place_v first_o as_o the_o supreme_a head_n of_o the_o church_n who_o though_o he_o err_v yet_o will_v he_o not_o have_v he_o to_o be_v judge_v of_o other_o etc._n etc._n he_o say_v also_o that_o certain_a city_n receive_v primate_fw-la from_o the_o bless_a apostle_n and_o from_o s._n clement_n etc._n etc._n he_o prescribe_v that_o if_o great_a difficulty_n arise_v or_o cause_n fall_v out_o among_o the_o bishop_n and_o primate_fw-la themselves_o let_v they_o be_v bring_v to_o the_o sea_n apostolic_a if_o such_o appeal_v be_v make_v for_o so_o the_o apostle_n ordain_v by_o the_o appointment_n of_o our_o saviour_n that_o the_o great_a and_o hard_a question_n shall_v always_o be_v bring_v to_o the_o apostolic_a sea_n upon_o which_o christ_n build_v his_o universal_a church_n math._n 16._o in_o like_a sort_n they_o say_v of_o xistus_fw-la 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against_o all_o the_o fury_n of_o satan_n even_o until_o the_o come_n of_o christ_n at_o the_o last_o judgement_n insomuch_o as_o 762._o as_o trast_n theol._n etc._n etc._n in_o refut_o errorum_fw-la ser._n p._n 762._o caluin_n upon_o this_o know_a principle_n of_o the_o church_n continuance_n thus_o urge_v seruetus_fw-la i_o have_v not_o touch_v that_o continual_a banishment_n from_o the_o earth_n which_o he_o faign_v of_o the_o church_n in_o which_o he_o plain_o argue_v god_n of_o lie_v etc._n etc._n he_o faign_v the_o church_n for_o 1260._o year_n to_o have_v be_v banish_v from_o the_o world_n so_o that_o heaven_n shall_v be_v her_o place_n of_o exile_n etc._n etc._n again_o god_n otherwise_o shall_v have_v lie_v who_o promise_v a_o certain_a people_n always_o to_o himself_o as_o long_o as_o the_o sun_n and_o moon_n shall_v shine_v in_o heaven_n we_o know_v what_o the_o prophet_n have_v in_o sundry_a place_n testify_v of_o the_o eternal_a kingdom_n of_o christ_n do_v they_o place_v the_o seat_n thereof_o in_o the_o heaven_n yea_o they_o foretell_v that_o our_o lord_n will_v show_v a_o far-of_a her_o sceptre_n from_o zion_n wherewith_o she_o may_v rule_v from_o the_o east_n to_o the_o west_n and_o her_o inheritance_n may_v be_v the_o whole_a world_n the_o protestant_a 321._o protestant_a harm_n of_o confess_v p._n 321._o confession_n of_o belgia_n teaech_v that_o there_o be_v one_o catholic_n or_o universal_a church_n etc._n etc._n which_o as_o it_o have_v be_v from_o the_o begin_n of_o the_o world_n so_o it_o shall_v continue_v unto_o the_o end_n thereof_o the_o which_o appear_v by_o this_o that_o christ_n be_v our_o eternal_a king_n who_o can_v never_o be_v without_o subject_n and_o to_o conclude_v this_o holy_a church_n be_v not_o situate_v or_o limit_v in_o any_o set_n or_o certain_a place_n nor_o yet_o bind_v and_o tie_v to_o any_o certain_a and_o peculiar_a person_n but_o spread_v over_o the_o face_n of_o the_o whole_a earth_n etc._n etc._n the_o protestant_a 307._o protestant_a ibid._n p._n 306._o 307._o confession_n of_o helvetia_n in_o the_o same_o behalf_n argue_v thus_o 1064._o thus_o in_o osiand_n count_v 16._o p._n 1064._o forasmuch_o as_o god_n from_o the_o beginning_n will_v have_v man_n to_o be_v save_v and_o to_o come_v to_o the_o knowledge_n of_o truth_n therefore_o it_o be_v necessary_a that_o always_o from_o the_o beginning_n at_o this_o day_n &_o to_o the_o end_n of_o the_o world_n there_o shall_v be_v a_o church_n etc._n etc._n as_o also_o see_v that_o there_o be_v always_o but_o one_o god_n &_o one_o mediator_n &c_n &c_n it_o follow_v necessary_o that_o there_o be_v but_o one_o church_n which_o we_o therefore_o call_v catholic_n because_o it_o be_v universal_a spread_v abroad_o through_o all_o part_n and_o quarter_n of_o the_o world_n and_o reach_v unto_o all_o time_n and_o be_v not_o limit_v within_o the_o compass_n either_o of_o time_n or_o place_n but_o none_o be_v more_o full_o herein_o then_o 86._o then_o the_o way_n to_o the_o true_a church_n p._n 85._o 86._o d._n white_a say_v we_o confess_v the_o church_n never_o cease_v to_o be_v but_o continue_v always_o without_o interruption_n to_o the_o world_n end_n and_o that_o so_o universal_o that_o 465._o that_o in_o his_o defence_n p._n 465._o d._n whiteguift_n avouch_v that_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n be_v disperse_v through_o the_o whole_a world_n and_o can_v not_o now_o be_v shut_v up_o in_o one_o kingdom_n for_o that_o he_o term_v a_o impossibility_n 465._o impossibility_n in_o his_o defence_n p._n 465._o d._n whitaker_n confess_v of_o the_o fore-alleaged_n scripture_n that_o the_o promise_n of_o god_n concern_v the_o largeness_n and_o beauty_n of_o his_o church_n have_v be_v accomplish_v and_o in_o this_o regard_n of_o the_o church_n ever_o continuance_n and_o universality_n thus_o plain_o teach_v by_o the_o scripture_n and_o believe_v by_o protestant_n the_o holy_a apostle_n in_o their_o creed_n give_v unto_o the_o church_n the_o surname_n of_o catholic_n that_o be_v universal_a for_o so_o say_v 23._o say_v sovereign_n remedy_n against_o schism_n p._n 23._o m._n clapham_n the_o church_n be_v to_o enlarge_v her_o tent_n &_o stretch_v she_o cordes_n universal_o through_o the_o earth_n 37._o earth_n answ_n to_o raynolds_n in_o the_o pref._n p._n 37._o for_o which_o cause_n it_o be_v call_v catholic_n but_o now_o to_o examine_v whether_o the_o roman_a or_o protestant_a church_n be_v this_o apostolic_a church_n thus_o plain_o teach_v by_o the_o sacred_a scripture_n and_o the_o acknowledgement_n of_o protestant_n ever_o to_o continue_v even_o from_o christ_n time_n to_o the_o end_n of_o the_o world_n and_o that_o not_o in_o one_o or_o other_o particular_a nation_n but_o even_o universal_o over_o the_o whole_a world_n first_o concern_v the_o protestant_a church_n it_o have_v so_o little_o perform_v the_o foresaid_a prediction_n of_o the_o sacred_a scripture_n for_o the_o church_n ever_o continuance_n and_o universality_n as_o that_o to_o the_o contrary_a 48._o contrary_a r●sp_n ad_fw-la camp_n rat_n 3._o p._n 48._o d._n whitaker_n confess_v that_o the_o mystery_n of_o iniquity_n which_o take_v root_n in_o the_o apostle_n time_n go_v through_o all_o the_o part_n of_o the_o church_n and_o at_o length_n possess_v the_o whole_a church_n now_o if_o the_o whole_a church_n of_o protestant_n and_o all_o the_o part_n thereof_o be_v thus_o possess_v with_o the_o mystery_n of_o iniquity_n what_o true_a church_n be_v then_o leave_v in_o be_v or_o continue_v in_o the_o world_n agreable_o hereto_o teach_v 49._o teach_v in_o epist_n jesuit_n part_n alt_z p._n 49._o cannerus_n we_o be_v come_v to_o these_o time_n which_o even_o exceed_v the_o confusion_n of_o the_o arian_n fury_n error_n have_v possess_v not_o one_o or_o other_o little_a part_n but_o apostasy_n have_v avert_v the_o whole_a body_n from_o true_a christ_n so_o that_o in_o these_o time_n the_o protestant_a church_n consist_v without_o a_o body_n in_o like_a sort_n write_v 400._o write_v upon_o the_o creed_n p._n 400._o m._n parkins_n we_o say_v that_o before_o the_o day_n of_o luther_n for_o the_o space_n of_o many_o hundred_o year_n a_o universal_a apostasy_n overspr_v the_o whole_a face_n of_o the_o earth_n which_o necessary_o infer_v the_o protestant_a church_n not_o be_v during_o the_o foresay_a apostasy_n but_o d._n willet_n observe_v the_o certain_a discontinuance_n or_o not-being_a of_o his_o church_n for_o many_o former_a age_n be_v not_o ashamed_a for_o his_o best_a help_n contrary_a to_o the_o foresay_a scripture_n and_o his_o other_o brethren_n bold_o to_o impugn_v and_o deny_v the_o ever_o certain_a continuance_n of_o christ_n church_n upon_o earth_n for_o 54._o for_o synopsis_fw-la p._n 54._o thus_o he_o say_v a_o visible_a church_n we_o desire_v to_o be_v a_o congregation_n of_o man_n among_o who_o the_o word_n be_v true_o preach_v and_o the_o sacrament_n administer_v such_o a_o church_n have_v not_o always_o be_v neither_o can_v we_o be_v assure_v that_o it_o shall_v be_v always_o find_v upon_o the_o earth_n etc._n etc._n conclude_v of_o the_o time_n of_o antichrist_n that_o then_o shall_v the_o visible_a church_n fail_v upon_o earth_n with_o who_o agree_v 79._o agree_v answ_n to_o a_o counterf_n cath._n p._n 79._o d._n fulk_n affirm_v that_o the_o visible_a church_n may_v become_v a_o adulteress_n and_o be_v divorce_v from_o christ_n and_o which_o 100_o which_o answer_v to_o a_o popish_a pamphlet_n p._n 100_o m._n woodcock_n acknowledge_v that_o protestant_n have_v often_o want_v in_o their_o assembly_n worship_v of_o god_n in_o the_o word_n sacrament_n and_o prayer_n now_o from_o these_o premise_n do_v avoidable_o follow_v the_o real_a impugn_v of_o the_o certain_a continuance_n of_o christ_n church_n upon_o earth_n for_o if_o according_a to_o d._n willet_n here_o the_o church_n visibilitie_n do_v consist_v in_o administration_n of_o word_n and_o sacrament_n of_o which_o himself_o say_v 71._o say_v synops._n p._n 71._o these_o mark_n can_v not_o be_v absent_a from_o the_o church_n and_o it_o be_v no_o long_o a_o true_a church_n than_o it_o have_v those_o mark_n for_o as_o he_o further_o 69_o further_o ib._n p._n 69_o avouch_v the_o only_a absence_n of_o they_o do_v make_v a_o nullity_n of_o the_o church_n then_o if_o the_o visible_a church_n may_v fail_v upon_o earth_n who_o then_o so_o dull_a as_o discern_v not_o that_o by_o necessary_a sequel_n hereof_o the_o true_a church_n may_v also_o fail_v upon_o earth_n 33._o earth_n against_o m._n raynolds_n in_o his_o answ_n to_o the_o pref._n p._n 33._o direct_o contrary_a to_o which_o d._n whitaker_n say_v before_o we_o believe_v that_o christ_n church_n shall_v never_o fail_v and_o we_o account_v it_o a_o profane_a heresy_n to_o teach_v that_o christ_n catholic_n church_n have_v perish_v from_o the_o earth_n at_o any_o time_n for_o this_o assertion_n shake_v the_o foundation_n of_o
all_o faith_n into_o such_o miserable_a strait_n &_o manifest_a contradiction_n be_v the_o learn_a protestant_n drive_v through_o want_n of_o their_o church_n continuance_n and_o universality_n yea_o upon_o the_o self_n same_o ground_n of_o the_o protestant_a church_n not_o fulfil_v the_o prediction_n of_o the_o church_n continuance_n sixt._n continuance_n in_o his_o preface_n of_o the_o great_a latin_a bible_n dedicate_v to_o k._n edward_n the_o sixt._n castalio_n burst_v out_o into_o these_o word_n very_o we_o must_v confess_v either_o that_o those_o thing_n shall_v be_v perform_v hereafter_o or_o have_v be_v already_o or_o that_o god_n be_v to_o be_v accuse_v of_o lie_v if_o any_o man_n answer_n that_o they_o have_v be_v perform_v i_o will_v demand_v of_o he_o when_o if_o he_o say_v in_o the_o apostle_n time_n i_o will_v demand_v how_o it_o chance_v that_o neither_o then_o the_o knowledge_n of_o god_n be_v altogether_o perfect_a and_o often_o in_o so_o abort_a space_n vanish_v 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christ_n and_o his_o apostle_n be_v utter_o overthrow_v by_o antichrist_n as_o be_v abundant_o see_v in_o the_o papacye_n from_o whence_o he_o necessary_o conclude_v the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o apostle_n to_o have_v be_v tear_v and_o discontinue_v etc._n etc._n to_o the_o same_o effect_n it_o be_v report_v in_o his_o history_n davidis_fw-la history_n historia_fw-la georgij_fw-la davidis_fw-la publish_v by_o the_o divine_n of_o basile_n that_o he_o thus_o dispute_v if_o the_o doctrine_n of_o christ_n and_o his_o apostle_n have_v be_v true_a and_o perfect_a the_o church_n which_o they_o plant_v etc._n etc._n shall_v have_v continue_v etc._n etc._n but_o now_o it_o be_v manifest_a that_o antichrist_n have_v subvert_v the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o apostle_n and_o the_o church_n by_o they_o begin_v as_o be_v evident_a in_o the_o papacy_n therefore_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o apostle_n be_v false_a and_o imperfect_a not_o much_o less_o dangerous_o write_v dialogorum_fw-la write_v in_o praef_n suorum_fw-la dialogorum_fw-la bernardine_n ockin_n when_o i_o do_v consider_v how_o christ_n by_o his_o power_n wisdom_n and_o goodness_n have_v found_v and_o establish_v his_o church_n wash_v it_o with_o his_o blood_n and_o enrich_v it_o with_o his_o spirit_n and_o again_o discern_v how_o the_o same_o be_v utter_o overthrow_v i_o can_v not_o but_o wonder_n and_o be_v desirous_a to_o know_v the_o cause_n i_o find_v there_o have_v be_v pope_n so_o plain_n it_o be_v that_o the_o church_n of_o protestant_n which_o themselves_o suppose_v to_o be_v the_o church_n of_o christ_n direct_o contrary_a to_o the_o foresaid_a scripture_n have_v not_o continue_v but_o have_v be_v utter_o overthrow_v a_o truth_n so_o certain_a and_o plain_a that_o therefore_o christ_n his_o apostle_n and_o doctrine_n be_v all_o of_o they_o accuse_v of_o lie_v through_o want_n of_o accomplishment_n of_o the_o foresaid_a prophecy_n in_o the_o protestant_a church_n continuance_n and_o universality_n and_o here_o i_o can_v not_o but_o admire_v the_o folly_n and_o impudency_n of_o d._n white_a 85._o white_a the_o way_n to_o the_o church_n p._n 85._o who_o direct_o contrary_a to_o his_o other_o brethren_n confession_n &_o to_o all_o history_n write_v thus_o audacious_o we_o confess_v the_o church_n never_o cease_v to_o be_v but_o continue_v always_o without_o interruption_n to_o the_o world_n end_n and_o against_o all_o papist_n we_o make_v it_o good_a that_o this_o very_a faith_n we_o now_o profess_v have_v successive_o continue_v in_o all_o age_n since_o christ_n and_o be_v never_o interrupt_v so_o much_o as_o one_o year_n month_n or_o day_n and_o to_o confess_v the_o contrary_n be_v sufficient_a to_o prove_v we_o no_o part_n of_o the_o church_n of_o god_n etc._n etc._n and_o yet_o the_o contrary_a be_v plain_o confess_v by_o d._n whitaker_n before_o affirm_v the_o mystery_n of_o iniquity_n to_o have_v possess_v the_o whole_a church_n by_o cannerus_n confess_v apostasy_n to_o have_v avert_v the_o whole_a body_n of_o the_o church_n from_o christ_n by_o m._n pa●kins_n confess_v for_o many_o hundred_o year_n a_o universal_a apostasy_n by_o d._n willet_n defend_v that_o the_o church_n in_o which_o the_o word_n be_v true_o preach_v and_o sacrament_n administer_v have_v not_o always_o be_v by_o castalio_n confess_v that_o the_o prophecy_n of_o the_o church_n continuance_n he_o can_v find_v perform_v in_o the_o protestant_a church_n by_o david_n george_n confess_v that_o the_o protestant_a church_n have_v be_v utter_o overthrow_v &_o not_o continue_v and_o by_o bernardine_n ockin_n teach_v the_o very_a same_o so_o clear_o it_o be_v that_o the_o church_n of_o protestant_n be_v not_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n which_o according_a to_o the_o shripture_n be_v ever_o to_o continue_v even_o from_o christ_n time_n unto_o the_o end_n of_o the_o world_n but_o now_o to_o examine_v whether_o in_o our_o roman_a catholic_n church_n the_o foresaid_a scripture_n be_v true_o verify_v by_o 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much_o lament_v and_o the_o same_o name_n be_v apply_v to_o we_o by_o m._n 202._o m._n reason_n take_v out_o of_o god_n word_n p._n 5._o 23._o 24._o 73._o 74._o willet_n in_o his_o obedience_n etc._n etc._n p._n 29._o humphrey_n vita_fw-la juelli_fw-la p._n 202._o jacob_n d._n willet_n d._n humphrey_n and_o other_o yea_o the_o say_a name_n be_v so_o dissort_v from_o the_o prot._n church_n &_o so_o agreeable_a to_o the_o roman_a that_o therefore_o it_o be_v hateful_a and_o dislike_v by_o protestans_fw-la insomuch_o as_o luther_n translate_n the_o apostle_n creed_n into_o dutch_a thrust_v out_o the_o word_n catholic_n and_o in_o steed_n thereof_o put-in_a christian_a and_o of_o the_o like_a course_n observe_v by_o lutheran_n 377._o lutheran_n against_o rhem._n test_n in_o act._n 11._o f●l_v 377._o d._n fulk_n himself_o acknowledge_v and_o say_v it_o be_v not_o to_o be_v allow_v yea_o in_o the_o synod_n hold_v at_o altemberg_n between_o the_o divine_n of_o the_o palsgrave_n of_o rhine_n and_o the_o duke_n of_o
church_n or_o rather_o only_o seduce_v and_o withdraw_v from_o the_o ancient_a catholic_n faith_n by_o secondary_a innovation_n as_o in_o like_a resemblance_n after_o 13.25_o after_o math._n 13.25_o the_o good_a seed_n be_v sow_v in_o the_o field_n the_o enemy_n come_v and_o sow_v tare_n among_o the_o wheat_n in_o which_o respect_n tertulian_n 42._o tertulian_n l._n the_o prescrip_n c._n 42._o say_v excellent_a well_o of_o all_o novelist_n that_o their_o endeavour_n be_v not_o to_o convert_v the_o heathen_a but_o to_o overthrow_v we_o who_o be_v convert_v they_o glory_v more_o to_o cast_v those_o down_n who_o stand_n then_o to_o lift_v up_o those_o who_o lie_v wherefore_o protestant_n be_v so_o far_o from_o convert_n any_o one_o heathen_a country_n to_o christian_a belief_n that_o their_o divide_a church_n never_o yet_o before_o or_o since_o luther_n time_n so_o much_o as_o but_o pass_v the_o sea_n with_o take_v hold_n in_o any_o one_o country_n of_o asia_n africa_n or_o america_n the_o three_o great_a know_a part_n of_o the_o world_n no_o protestant_a as_o yet_o ever_o be_v able_a to_o give_v the_o least_o instance_n of_o their_o church_n in_o any_o one_o of_o all_o these_o three_o part_n yea_o it_o remain_v as_o now_o though_o be_v in_o its_o great_a height_n of_o increase_n so_o narrow_o shut_v up_o or_o confine_v within_o our_o northern_a part_n of_o the_o world_n be_v but_o a_o only_a corner_n of_o europe_n the_o four_o and_o incomparable_o the_o least_o part_n of_o all_o the_o rest_n that_o even_o in_o the_o far_o great_a part_n of_o this_o one_o lest_o part_n be_v not_o so_o much_o as_o any_o appear_a profession_n either_o of_o lutheran_n or_o caluinist_n know_v to_o be_v remain_v or_o in_o be_v yea_o it_o be_v most_o worthy_a of_o all_o diligent_a observation_n that_o whereas_o certain_a protestant_n have_v endeavour_v the_o conversion_n of_o some_o heathen_a nation_n the_o event_n be_v ever_o such_o through_o their_o own_o demerit_n either_o of_o mutual_a dissension_n among_o themselves_o in_o matter_n of_o faith_n &_o religion_n or_o of_o foul_a enormous_a and_o most_o scandalous_a life_n and_o conversation_n that_o their_o travail_n and_o labour_n be_v ever_o spend_v without_o fruit_n and_o commodity_n and_o their_o return_n accompany_v with_o shame_n and_o disgrace_n in_o this_o time_n be_v right_a famous_a the_o endeavour_n make_v of_o late_a time_n by_o caluin_n &_o the_o church_n of_o geneva_n in_o their_o send_n richerus_fw-la the_o caluinist_n who_o icon._n who_o in_o icon._n beza_n term_v a_o man_n of_o try_a godliness_n and_o learning_n into_o gallia_n antartica_fw-la to_o convert_v the_o heathen_n there_o 237._o there_o in_o calu._n epist_n ep_v 237._o but_o how_o void_a of_o all_o success_n it_o be_v and_o that_o to_o their_o last_a discredit_n be_v plain_o relate_v and_o confess_v by_o their_o own_o brethren_n for_o first_o richerus_fw-la 32_o himself_o write_v thus_o unto_o caluin_n concern_v the_o people_n of_o that_o country_n they_o be_v ignorant_a whether_o there_o be_v a_o god_n so_o far_o be_v they_o from_o keep_v his_o law_n or_o admire_v his_o power_n and_o goodness_n whereby_o we_o be_v devoid_a of_o all_o hope_n of_o gain_v they_o to_o christ_n etc._n etc._n but_o much_o more_o full_o be_v this_o report_v by_o villegaignon_fw-fr who_o be_v then_o chief_a captain_n of_o the_o french_a navy_n and_o one_o so_o fervent_a and_o forward_a in_o plant_v protestancie_n in_o those_o country_n that_o the_o next_o day_n after_o his_o arrival_n he_o not_o only_o as_o 438._o as_o ibid._n p._n 438._o richerus_fw-la mention_v command_v the_o word_n of_o god_n to_o be_v public_o preach_v and_o the_o week_n follow_v the_o holy_a supper_n of_o the_o lord_n to_o be_v minister_v which_o himself_o with_o some_o of_o his_o family_n religious_o receive_v etc._n etc._n but_o withal_o give_v certain_a young_a man_n to_o the_o people_n of_o that_o nation_n to_o be_v instruct_v in_o their_o language_n that_o so_o they_o may_v afterward_o preach_v unto_o they_o this_o so_o zealous_a a_o ghospeller_n antarctica_n ghospeller_n epist_n before_o his_o book_n entitle_v les_fw-fr proposition_n contentienses_n etc._n etc._n write_v after_o his_o return_n from_o gallia_n antarctica_n relate_v the_o bad_a success_n and_o cause_n thereof_o in_o these_o word_n christian_a reader_n m._n john_n caluin_n understand_v that_o i_o be_v go_v to_o brasile_n with_o intent_n to_o plant_v the_o faith_n there_o move_v with_o the_o old_a acquaintance_n have_v between_o we_o send_v unto_o i_o as_o well_o in_o his_o own_o as_o in_o the_o name_n of_o the_o whole_a city_n of_o geneva_n certain_a minister_n of_o his_o religion_n the_o best_a learned_a that_o can_v be_v find_v with_o certain_a craftsman_n in_o their_o company_n well_o furnish_v with_o all_o such_o book_n as_o caluin_n have_v write_v or_o any_o other_o which_o may_v serve_v for_o their_o people_n as_o they_o pass_v by_o paris_n certain_a other_o protestant_n join_v with_o they_o and_o among_o the_o rest_n a_o revolt_a jacobin_n name_v john_n comtate_n a_o man_n of_o prompt_a and_o subtle_a wit_n these_o man_n come_v to_o brasile_n adorn_v themselves_o with_o a_o fair_a title_n call_v themselves_o the_o reform_a church_n by_o reason_n whereof_o they_o be_v of_o i_o receive_v with_o all_o possible_a courtesy_n hope_v they_o will_v have_v be_v profitable_a to_o i_o in_o my_o enterprise_n but_o when_o they_o begin_v to_o execute_v their_o function_n i_o then_o find_v they_o have_v usurp_v a_o wrong_a title_n etc._n etc._n they_o agree_v not_o among_o themselves_o nor_o continue_v long_o in_o their_o own_o doctrine_n but_o as_o they_o learn_v every_o day_n so_o they_o still_o add_v something_o thereto_o the_o jacobin_n will_v follow_v a_o doctrine_n by_o himself_o undertake_v to_o defend_v and_o publish_v the_o confession_n of_o augusta_n and_o without_o dissimulation_n to_o impugn_v the_o doctrine_n of_o caluin_n whereby_o the_o contention_n among_o they_o grow_v so_o great_a that_o no_o other_o remedy_n can_v be_v have_v but_o by_o send_v away_o one_o of_o the_o minister_n of_o geneva_n but_o villegaignon_fw-fr himself_z discern_v through_o their_o mutual_a disagreement_n and_o inordinate_a accomplish_a 90._o accomplish_a see_v launay_n en_fw-fr la_fw-fr replique_a chrestienne_n l_o 2._o c._n 16._o f_o 251._o and_o villegaignon_fw-fr advers_a art_n richeri_fw-la l._n 1._o c._n 90._o lust_n not_o to_o be_v name_v the_o whole_a action_n of_o convert_n that_o country_n to_o be_v frustrate_v receive_v thereupon_o sufficient_a motive_n to_o abandon_v their_o religion_n to_o the_o same_o effect_n it_o be_v report_v by_o d._n philip_n nicolai_n 395._o nicolai_n comment_fw-fr de_fw-fr regno_fw-la christi_fw-la l._n 1._o p._n 395._o that_o the_o french_a man_n have_v for_o their_o captain_n nicolas_n villegaignon_fw-fr be_v happy_o arrive_v in_o brasile_n through_o fatal_a misfortune_n and_o dissension_n lose_v their_o regiment_n and_o castle_n build_v therein_o be_v cast_v out_o by_o the_o spaniard_n as_o in_o like_a sort_n afterward_o when_o with_o a_o new_a army_n they_o come_v to_o florida_n john_n ribautius_n be_v their_o captain_n etc._n etc._n the_o english_a also_o forbisher_n be_v captain_n open_v the_o northern_a side_n of_o the_o new_a world_n but_o they_o return_v home_n etc._n etc._n and_o of_o the_o bad_a success_n of_o this_o sir_n martin_n forbisher_n &_o other_o english_a in_o the_o conversion_n of_o the_o remote_a northern_a nation_n m._n hacklute_a 680._o hacklute_a voyage_n &_o discovery_n etc._n etc._n p._n 680._o write_v thus_o the_o event_n do_v show_v that_o either_o god_n cause_n have_v not_o be_v chief_o prefer_v by_o they_o or_o else_o god_n have_v not_o permit_v so_o abundant_a grace_n as_o the_o light_n of_o his_o word_n and_o knowledge_n of_o he_o to_o be_v yet_o reveal_v to_o those_o infidel_n before_o the_o appoint_a time_n and_o whereas_o some_o protestant_n in_o germany_n do_v insinuate_v with_o the_o church_n of_o greece_n write_v to_o the_o patriarch_n in_o this_o humble_a manner_n with_o title_n of_o direction_n 2._o direction_n acta_fw-la theol._n witemb_v &_o patria●_n have_fw-mi con●tantin_n etc._n etc._n p._n 2._o to_o the_o most_o holy_a and_o ecumenical_a patriarch_n the_o lord_n hieremie_n archbishop_n of_o constantinople_n of_o new_a rome_n a_o pious_a lord_n and_o renew_v again_o 144._o again_o ibid._n p._n 144._o the_o same_o direction_n in_o steed_n of_o pious_a lord_n they_o add_v our_o most_o reverend_a lord_n 4_o lord_n ib._n p._n 4_o conclude_v with_o farewell_o most_o holy_a lord_n etc._n etc._n and_o vouchsafe_v we_o pardon_n and_o receive_v we_o favourable_o into_o thy_o fatherlie_a care_n etc._n etc._n with_o much_o more_o insinuate_a submission_n and_o desire_n of_o communion_n with_o he_o all_o this_o yet_o notwithstanding_o after_o much_o conference_n writing_n and_o labour_n in_o vanie_n spend_v the_o patriarch_n reject_v they_o as_o most_o unworthy_a 350._o unworthy_a ibid._n
same_o to_o he_o etc._n etc._n appoint_v in_o province_n his_o vicar_n over_o other_o church_n to_o end_v small_a matter_n and_o to_o reserve_v the_o great_a cause_n to_o himself_o caluin_n 12._o caluin_n instit_fw-la l._n 4._o c._n 7._o sec_fw-la 12._o avouch_v that_o there_o be_v no_o word_n in_o the_o writing_n of_o gregory_n wherein_o more_o proud_o he_o boast_v of_o the_o greatness_n of_o his_o primacy_n than_o this_o to_o wit_n i_o know_v not_o what_o bishop_n be_v not_o subject_a to_o the_o apostolic_a sea_n when_o he_o be_v find_v faulty_a etc._n etc._n he_o assume_v to_o himself_o power_n to_o punish_v those_o who_o offend_v d._n raynolds_n find_v no_o better_a shift_n for_o the_o foresay_a say_v of_o s._n gregory_n then_o impudent_o to_o say_v that_o 547._o that_o conference_n p._n 547._o either_o gregory_n write_v not_o so_o or_o he_o write_v a_o untruth_n to_o cheer_v up_o his_o subject_n 351._o subject_n cent._n 6._o p._n 289._o see_v philippus_n nicolai_n de_fw-fr regno_fw-la christi_fw-la li._n 2._o p._n 67._o &_o 351._o osiander_n acknowledge_v that_o augustin_n be_v send_v from_o gregory_n the_o great_a bishop_n of_o rome_n into_o england_n that_o he_o may_v subdue_v the_o same_o to_o the_o jurisdiction_n of_o the_o roman_a bishop_n 290._o bishop_n cent._n 6._o p._n 290._o and_o to_o the_o lust_n of_o the_o roman_a antichrist_n for_o which_o say_v osiander_n austin_n be_v after_o his_o death_n undoubted_o damn_v to_o hel._n yea_o d._n morton_n 31._o morton_n prot._n appeal_n l._n 1._o sec_fw-la 28._o p._n 31._o a_o man_n most_o spare_v to_o tell_v the_o truth_n yet_o yield_v thus_o far_o say_v whether_o or_o how_o far_o two_o hundred_o year_n after_o s._n gregory_n do_v reach_v his_o arm_n of_o jurisdiction_n beyond_o the_o limit_n of_o his_o diocese_n be_v a_o question_n by_o reason_n of_o his_o diverse_a obscure_a speech_n and_o some_o particular_a practice_n diverse_o censure_v of_o our_o author_n but_o beside_o the_o clear_a premise_n this_o question_n of_o d._n morton_n be_v make_v none_o by_o d._n raynodl_v teach_v that_o 550_o that_o confer_v p._n 550_o the_o primacy_n which_o gregory_n leo_n and_o other_o give_v to_o the_o sea_n of_o rome_n do_v so_o exceed_v the_o truth_n that_o etc._n etc._n and_o 545._o and_o ibid._n p._n 545._o that_o gregory_n be_v somewhat_o large_a that_o way_n yea_o that_o he_o and_o all_o the_o pope_n for_o three_o hundred_o year_n before_o he_o 549_o he_o ib._n p._n 549_o avouch_v more_o of_o their_o sea_n then_o be_v true_a and_o right_a in_o the_o opinion_n of_o protestant_n with_o who_o accord_v d._n fulk_n say_v gregory_n 2._o gregory_n in_o 2._o thess_n 2._o be_v a_o great_a worker_n and_o furtherer_n of_o the_o sea_n of_o antichrist_n and_o of_o the_o mystery_n of_o iniquity_n and_o 21._o and_o in_o john_n 21._o we_o go_v not_o about_o to_o clear_a gregory_n from_o all_o usurpation_n of_o jurisdiction_n more_o than_o to_o his_o sea_n appertain_v so_o certain_a and_o out_o of_o all_o question_n it_o be_v that_o s._n gregory_n the_o great_a be_v a_o true_a roman_a catholic_n in_o his_o doctrine_n and_o practice_v of_o the_o pope_n primacy_n by_o the_o premise_n than_o it_o be_v evident_a that_o the_o objection_n so_o much_o urge_v by_o 32._o by_o contrae_fw-la camp_n rat_n 6._o p_o 97._o fulk_n in_o his_o answer_n to_o a_o counterf_n cath._n jewel_n in_o his_o reply_n art_n 4._o p._n 225._o 226._o 227._o mortons_n appeal_n l_o 1._o c._n 2._o sec_fw-la 29._o p._n 32._o d._n whitaker_n d._n fulk_n d._n jewel_n d._n morton_n and_o sundry_a other_o protestant_n from_o s._n gregory_n his_o reject_v and_o dislike_n of_o the_o title_n of_o universal_a bishop_n be_v altogether_o impertinent_a see_v s._n gregory_n reject_v the_o same_o in_o that_o sense_n which_o john_n bishop_n of_o constantinople_n apply_v to_o himself_o to_o wit_n that_o he_o be_v the_o sole_a bishop_n and_o none_o bishop_n but_o he_o a_o thing_n so_o evident_a that_o the_o protestant_a 570._o protestant_a de_fw-fr ecclesia_fw-la l._n 2._o c._n 10._o p._n 570._o andreas_n friccius_n who_o 77._o who_o in_o his_o come_v place_n part_n 4._o p._n 77._o peter_n martyr_n term_v a_o excellent_a learned_a man_n in_o like_a sort_n express_v the_o same_o say_v some_o there_o be_v etc._n etc._n that_o object_n the_o authority_n of_o gregory_n who_o say_v that_o such_o a_o title_n pertain_v to_o the_o precursour_n of_o antichrist_n but_o the_o reason_n of_o gregory_n be_v to_o be_v know_v and_o it_o may_v be_v gather_v of_o his_o word_n which_o he_o repeat_v in_o many_o epistle_n that_o the_o title_n of_o universal_a bishop_n be_v contrary_a to_o and_o do_v gainsay_v the_o grace_n which_o be_v common_o pour_v upon_o all_o bishop_n he_o therefore_o that_o call_v himself_o the_o only_o bishop_n take_v the_o bishoplike_a power_n from_o the_o rest_n wherefore_o this_o title_n he_o will_v have_v to_o be_v reject_v etc._n etc._n but_o it_o be_v nevertheless_o evident_a by_o other_o place_n that_o gregory_n think_v that_o the_o charge_n and_o principality_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n be_v commit_v to_o peter_n etc._n etc._n and_o yet_o for_o this_o cause_n gregory_n think_v not_o that_o peter_n be_v the_o forerunner_n of_o antichrist_n so_o plain_o do_v this_o protestant_a answer_n this_o so_o often_o urge_v objection_n from_o s._n gregory_n and_o so_o evident_a also_o it_o be_v that_o s._n gregory_n himself_o claim_v and_o defend_v the_o primacy_n of_o the_o roman_a bishop_n and_o church_n over_o all_o other_o bishop_n and_o church_n whatsoever_o but_o to_o arise_v from_o s._n gregory_n to_o other_o doctor_n and_o father_n more_o ancient_a his_o next_o predecessor_n pope_n pelagius_n be_v for_o the_o self_n same_o cause_n much_o reprove_v by_o osiander_n 242_o osiander_n cent._n 6._o p._n 242_o in_o these_o word_n pelagius_n great_o inveigh_v against_o john_n of_o constantinople_n because_o he_o assume_v to_o himself_o the_o title_n of_o universal_a patriarch_n and_o show_v by_o that_o profane_a title_n of_o universal_a to_o abolish_v the_o name_n of_o other_o patriarch_n etc._n etc._n but_o in_o the_o mean_a time_n he_o contend_v the_o roman_a church_n to_o be_v the_o head_n of_o all_o other_o church_n and_o he_o bable_v many_o thing_n of_o the_o privilege_n give_v by_o christ_n to_o s._n peter_n the_o centurie-writer_n speak_v of_o the_o father_n error_n which_o live_v in_o the_o five_o age_n plain_o and_o at_o large_a confess_v 774._o confess_v cent._n 5._o col_fw-fr 774._o that_o in_o this_o five_o age_n the_o roman_a bishop_n apply_v themselves_o to_o get_v and_o establish_v dominion_n over_o other_o church_n so_o they_o acknowledge_v that_o pope_n celestin_n of_o who_o 588._o who_o in_o his_o defence_n p._n 588._o d._n whitguift_n say_v he_o be_v a_o godly_a bishop_n give_v privilege_n of_o use_v the_o title_n of_o pope_n and_o the_o mitre_n to_o ciril_n of_o alexandria_n who_o he_o have_v substitute_v in_o his_o place_n to_o be_v precedent_n in_o the_o council_n of_o ephesus_n he_o be_v also_o charge_v by_o m._n carthwright_n 512._o carthwright_n in_o his_o 2._o reply_n part_n 1._o p._n 512._o to_o have_v claim_v superiority_n over_o all_o church_n take_v upon_o he_o as_o it_o be_v the_o name_n of_o universal_a bishop_n 1246._o bishop_n cent._n 5._o col_fw-fr 1246._o osiander_n affirm_v that_o he_o contend_v in_o behalf_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n primacy_n more_o impudent_o than_o do_v his_o predecessor_n 1285._o predecessor_n cent._n 5._o col_fw-fr 1285._o nestorius_n the_o heretic_n than_o bishop_n of_o constantinople_n he_o allot_v ten_o day_n space_n to_o repent_v which_o if_o he_o do_v not_o he_o shall_v not_o only_o be_v excommunicate_v but_o his_o name_n shall_v be_v blot_v out_o of_o the_o catalogue_n of_o priest_n and_o for_o the_o accomplishment_n of_o the_o premise_n he_o make_v cyril_n of_o alexandria_n his_o legat._n the_o centurist_n 778._o centurist_n cent._n 5._o col_fw-fr 778._o charge_v the_o pope_n 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