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A71108 The reflections on the XXVIII propositions touching the doctrine of the Trinity, in a letter to the clergy, &c. maintain'd, against the Third defence of the said propositions by the same hand. Tindal, Matthew, 1653?-1733. 1695 (1695) Wing T1304; ESTC R4525 56,470 59

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Power did out of nothing bring into being all things that now are His Ldp. understands the Terms and believes the thing Let him if he can tell me as distinctly what Idea he has of necessary Emanation Will he explain it by eternal Procession I reply That which was from all Eternity cannot be imagined to proceed from another without reversing the certain fixt Sense of words He says that necessary Emanation is the Word of the Fathers and a better cannot be found out to express what is intended by it and I tell him no Man could ever yet intelligibly declare what is intended by it His Ldp. bids as fair as any Man for it when he calls it a more excellent Way of existence than by Creation which till it be explained how shall we judg whether it be so or no If there be which I know not there may be for ought he knows a more proper Phrase for it P. 27. his Ldp. quotes Lines from my MS. Papers he quotes right but I omitted two words I would have that Period read thus That some thing should NECESS ARILY and ETERNALLY come from God which wants some Perfection that God has is A. T 's prodigious Supposition under the Name of Necessary Emanation Now whereas I endeavoured to display the Absurdity and Impossibility of this in some few Questions his Ldp. seems to agree with much of what I would infer only merrily taxes me for giving Reasons for things so plain they need none which is a mortifying Stroke to me for he takes such care of giving no Reasons for what he says that I shall never have an Opportunity to be reveng'd on him But in the Conclusion of the Page he tells me it is Nonsense to talk of God's begetting infinite Power Wisdom and Goodness I grant it just such Non-sense as it is to talk of begetting an infinitely powerful wise and good Being As for his Lordship 's metaphysical Distinction of Priority of Time and Priority of Nature whereby he would defend his 13th Prop. 't is a dark Riddle and a tempting Subject for Sarcasm but out of Reverence to his Ldp. all I shall say is that it is a Distinction that can explain nothing nor can any one explain that We know what 's meant by Priority of Time and Priority of Excellence if Priority of Nature be neither of these 't is an empty word devis'd I believe with a bad Design but us'd now by those that are themselves deceiv'd by it P. 30. his Ldp. is pleas'd to undertake the Defence of an Instance Which he says he gave in this mention'd Prop. of an Effect every whit as old as the Cause of it namely of the Sun the cause of Light In which if there be any Possibility of Truth then we must add new Significations to words and acutely distinguish between Causes by the Force of which other things are effected and Causes which have no Causality in them between Effects which are effected by their Causes and Effects that are self-existent For that 2 and 2 make 4 is not more evident than that Causes by the force of which other things are effected are older than their Effects and that Effects that are effected by their Causes are later than their Causes He may as well make one and the same Body to exist in more places than one at one and the same time Thus Miracles are confined to no particular Church nor Age only there is this Difference Christ and the Apostles wrought Miracles to confirm their Doctrines but with the modern Teachers the Doctrines themselves are the Minacles To what I objected against this his coexisting Cause and Effect the Sun and its Light he gives me an Answer he meant for sacetious He could find in his Heart to grant me that the Sun was not the Cause of that Light which was created before the Sun I thank him But upon second Thoughts he will not grant me that l. 23. No not for all the Book of Genesis He might have spar'd the Book of Genesis he may use me as pleases He knows the Sun is the Cause of Light by his Eye-sight He might as well say His Head is the Cause of his Heel by his Feeling I say the Sun and Light which together began to be could not one be the Cause of the other but God the Cause of both at the same time and in the same manner of Causality His Lordship quotes a Scrap from my Papers and makes me by mangling my words talk Contradictions but my reasoning was what I have said that if the Sun and Light did begin to exist in the same Point of Time then the one cannot be the Cause of the other for that thing which is the Cause of another must be in respect of time before that other whereof it is the Cause That I may not omit any thing his Lordship thinks material I am oblig'd to take notice that in his first Defence of his Propositions p. 19. he tells the Reader His Explication speaks as great an Unity between them the Persons as is between the Sun and its Splendor and the Light of both Which in very plain English sounds thus between the Sun and its Light the Light of the Sun and the Light of the Sun's Light But that he may not pretend I misrepresent him let the Reader take his Discovery in his own Terms 1. Here 's the Sun 2. The Splendour of the Sun 3. The Light of the Sun 4. The Light of the Sun's Splendour After the Reader has mus'd a while on the distinct parts of his Lordship's Similitude let me recal to his Mind his Lordship's Notion of One God absolutely perfect in the highest Sense and of Two each of which is God but not absolutely perfect in the highest Sense yet as absolutely perfect in a lower Sense as two each of which is God can be who are not absolutely God in the highest Sense and then let me ask whether there is any thing in any other Hypothesis more apt to make Sport for Hereticks In truth had I not a greater Reverence for his Lordship's Vertue than his Reasoning I should not slip the Occasion of diverting my Friend Whereas I have told him that the two Propositions he boasts of for contradicting Arianism and Socinianism do also contradict some of their fellow-Propositions I now prove it by Induction If the Son and H. Spirit do necessarily and eternally exist then they are as self-existent as independent as pure Originals as God the Father if they necessarily and eternally exist then the Father as much emanates from and depends upon them as they emanate from and depend upon him so that his Hypothesis does not more contradict Arianism and Socinianism than it contradicts it self Heathenish Doctrines by their Inconsistency meet the Fate of Rome Heathen suis ipsa Roma viribus ruit I may now tell his Ldp. he has no way to expose me but by exposing my Argument but it 's much easier